did he take his exlax last night?

he likes explosive momments i think

After all, do we really want a presidential candidate — much less a President — whose instinctive reaction to an international crisis is unabashed glee?

Definitely something to think about.

Hey Swopa~ I’m ready for some grownups to take charge in the government. Even ones we wouldn’t want to have a beer with.

we know as a fact cheney rued the day nixon brokered the treaty of detante, so much so he and rumsfeld manufactured lies and “evidence” to undermine that treaty

why?

because peace cuts into their profit, that’s why, they need war, they need unrest, they need fear;

to make money

and cheney did it again with Iraq, he used the same players and manufactured data that does not exist to convince Americans we needed to invade a country that posed no threat

and then he tried it again in Iran and that might still work

now this “russian threat”, and the never ending fear

why?

so they can continue to pillage the assets of our middle class, so that funding that should go to our infrastructure and our society instead goes to the pockets of these magots

McCain and war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

I heard an interview on the radio with a David Phillips of the US Atlantic Council. He is mainstream centrist NATO hawk in an organization of similar bent, and they definitely are not objective, and overly anti-Russian, at least in the Georgia/Russia crisis. And I think takig a rather cynical ‘intenational law is what we say it is” apporach at least in this instance.

He has given interviews were he has been saying that the OCSE international agreement authorizing Russian and Georgian peacekeepers was not “really real” because even though recognized by UN, well… there were some notes and codocils… .and…. You get the picture -pretty obvious special pleading that it was not a real thing because the UN noted it was an imperfect kluge. But it was a real thing, by any reasonable standard.

So I was surprized when he took after Saakashvili in the interview today. Phillips said
-guy is loose canon,
-definitely wants McCain to win (had framed pictures ready to go up after election, last time Phillips visited)
-last time Phillips visited, he said he left concerned that Saakashvili might do something to solidify US support for Georgia before the election.

This interview, for some reason, has not been posted and KCBS dot com. Which gives me the creeps because it should be clear by now that there has been very concerted Georgian PR campaign.

I should be clear by now that monstrous elements are trying to use this incident as a pretext to play narrow domestic partisan politics with very grave and serious foreign policy matters.

We need to keep our heads and distinguish that from long term issues.
(my way of saying that looking into this question of playing politics is not the same thing as taking a “pro-Russia” position on serious long term issues, which cannot and should not be settled on the fly in the middle of an election -there is nothing at stake here which justifies any rush, absolutely nothing)

whose instinctive reaction to an international crisis is unabashed glee?

oh c’mon Swopa – Charlie Black’s glee over the murder of Benazir Bhutto was abashed.

geesh, you hippies :D

but…but…(Hi) Jane, think of how much money it would save, the old wrinkly brain-dead one rattling his gums rather than the army rattling their guns. Should send waves upon waves of terror and regalement on the eminey. And then, in a few minutes, it will be forgotten and he can do it again.

How is his absurd pontificating not presumptuous? And why isn’t the traditional media beating his political head in?

I believe I have an issue obama will claim the gold, notice my bold below, from think progress

It turns out that it is Whitman vs. the McCain camp on another technology issue – whether consumers should have legal protections for their privacy when surfing online. The new McCain privacy statement says that the market and “self-regulation” should protect our privacy.

bing

an obama add should do something along these lines;

“John mccain actually said your privacy should not be protected, that your privacy will be subject to the “self regulation” of industry!

do YOU want to leave your privacy protected by the “self regulation” if industry?”

man that would be a great add and part of a great speach

Ouch. I forgot about Bhutto.

Sorry, meant OSCE, not OCSE (OCSE is child support, which might be appropriate for some in the US administration)

OSCE – Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe

TPM has done a great service by posting june poll on popular sentiment for joining NATO in Ukraind -as of June, NATO was not popular there.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/208700.php

This crisis might split opinion in Ukraine even more, since country is split into Ukrainian and Russian regions. Much more support for joining EU, which I think is is much safer and more dependable route to long term security.

Good to know that Ukrainian membership might be moot point, assuming the population has anything to say about it.

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Great post, Swopa, and very good point! Hope the voters see thru things as well as you do! Seems so totally obvious!

He would be Mr. Happy President! Just think, a crisis a week and he will be in hog heaven!

double opps. Sorry, typing quickly at end my lunch hour.

Interview where Phillips was being overly pro-Georgian (IMO), was earlier one -Aug 11 on BBC.

The interview where he criticized Georgian president was on KCBS radio this morning

did he take his exlax last night?

no, but “The milk of magnesia worked!”

Unabashed glee nails it, swopa. The craven covetousness and greed and avarice of the McCainBushCheney gang is absolutely appalling.

There should be a drumbeat about the whole WHIG which is still in full operating mode via the McCainBushCheney gang and their minions like Mary “a good piece of scholarship” Matalin who pimped the Corsi book.

Morally bankrupt, the lot of them.

Abkhasia and Ossetia are real ethnic enclaves, with long standing nationalisti ‘issues’ that have troubled any country who has had their whole teritories inside it’s border. Don’t let propaganda fool you about them being Russian fictions (or propaganda that says poor Russia is just trying to help as best it can).

Those are serious, but long standing issues, and there will be plenty of time to solve them (there has to be, since there will be no short term solution to ethnic trouble there, whether Georgia or Russia gets its respective wish list)

But as for the politics being played: well that is just Duck Soup.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Soup

BTW: Ossetia has a little Ossetia within it. Ingushitia, or something like that. I forget whether that is in N or S Ossetia, or straddles border. Anyone who says ethnic enclaves are not an intractable problem in the Caucasus is just spouting nonsense.

Thanks Swopa.

Hopefully the legacy media will ask McSane how effing serious he is. Will he re-institute the draft? Will he raise taxes to support armed conflict with Russia or does he expect the Chinese to buy more T-bills.

I also think McSane has left himself very vulnerable to Ronnie Raygun’s “no-nation building.” I hope Obama uses some form of that against him.

Also, it’s time for Democrats to start using military language so they don’t look quite so weak on “Defense.” What kind of deployments does McSane want to make to Georgia? What are the troop to task ratios and the force protection requirements?

OT FWIW, here’s a summary of the Powell Doctrine (which I know you’re ver familiar with Swopa)of overwhelming force. If the Democrats had used this, we wouldn’t still be bogged down in Iraq. They ought to use it now regarding Russia:

“1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
7. Is the action supported by the American people?
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?”

here’s a summary of the Powell Doctrine (which I know you’re ver familiar with Swopa)

Someone remembers! *sniff*

Funny, Larry Lindsay said now the growups are in charge of the government!

Of course, after he mentioned the Iraq war might cost $200 billion, he was shown the door.

he gets his fun
on Route 61

I’m a big proponent of the Powell Doctrine. Thanks for posting its tenets. Under these, we should go nowhere near the place.

Nevertheless, there is a high degree of hypocrisy in Russia’s actions. After championing the ethnic rights of Abkhaz (1992-1994) and Ossetians (1992) in Georgia, Russia then went on to fight two wars against an ethnic minority within its own boundaries the Chechens from 1994-1996 and again in 1999-2000.

New Jane post

They’re not talking about it because to be presumptuous, you not only have to act presidential, you have to be someone who shouldn’t. Though they’ll never admit it, the core of the “presumptuous” meme was that Obama was getting above his station. Since the political press will never believe that there’s any station above highly-principled war hero John McCain, so they’ll never think he’s being “presumptuous,” even as he conducts foreign policy with a country that’s paying his senior campaign advisor.

Is it time to rerun the “Daisy” ad?
-jss-