David Brooks is in China, where he’s gotten the uncomfortable sense that they just don’t feel things like we do*
Three months ago, an earthquake struck China’s Sichuan Province, killing nearly 70,000 people. Xian Tianquan was at home with his wife in the village of Pengshua at the time. They made a dash to get outside. Xian’s wife was just ahead of him, crossing the threshold of their house when the frame collapsed. She was killed instantly.
…
This week, he sat on the spot of her death, telling the story with a matter-of-fact, almost cheerful air. A small group of villagers was hanging around, and the interview, outside under a tarp, was a communal affair. The villagers joked with each other and smiled frequently in a manner I found hard to fathom as they described the horrible events from May.
…
I asked if people in the village have suffered any psychological aftershocks from the trauma. Another villager, Tan Fubian, piped up and said that they just try not to think about it…
Still, there was no disguising the emotional resilience and intense mutual support in that village. And there was no avoiding the baffling sense of equanimity. Where was the trauma and grief?
He’s also puzzled that a couple who lost their only, grown, son just don’t seem to be all that upset about it
“The government wants us to look on the positive side,” he said.
There were no pictures of his dead son around, but from under his bed he pulled a photo album that had been at his mother-in-law’s at the time of the quake. I thought he would betray some emotion as he passed around photos of his handsome, scholarly looking boy. There was nothing. He kept speaking in that pragmatic tone, just as Xian had done. Qi’s wife added that she was very satisfied with all that had been done for them.
These were weird, unnerving interviews, and I don’t pretend to understand what’s going on in the minds of people who have suffered such blows and remained so optimistic.
Yeah, that’s some baffling shit there, Dave. Luckily I’m here for you. Here’s some nice comprehensible trauma
Sure do look like parents with emotions, don’t they?
Wufu is a town in mourning. Giant wreaths and white flowers, the Chinese symbol for remembrance, line the main street and point the way to one of the most tragic and disturbing scenes in the aftermath of the earthquake that struck Sichuan Province almost two weeks ago.
Nearly all of the 128 who died in this small town outside Mianzhu were children, mostly aged between 10 and 13, when the Fuxin 2 Junior School collapsed – leaving parents childless and inconsolable.
But if grief is the dominant emotion in Wufu, then anger runs it a close second. As you walk through this rural community, it is impossible not to be struck by the profusion of home-made banners strung across streets and hanging from walls. They point to a story of corruption and incompetence that the bereaved believe did more to kill their children than any natural disaster.
One reads: "Our children are not dead directly due to the earthquake, but because of a tofu building."
The Fuxin 2 school was reduced to rubble in minutes, burying the children, while the buildings around it stood firm. It is that telling fact which so enrages the parents of the dead and has driven these formerly quiet citizens to protest at the remains of the school, every day.
Multiply that anger by 6,898 – the total number of school buildings that collapsed across the earthquake zone on May 12 – and it is possible to get the measure of the new phenomenon facing the Chinese authorities: a fury shared by tens of thousands of bereaved parents, some of whom are now planning larger-scale protests.
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A banner bearing the names of the dead, and written in the blood of their parents, leads to a shrine on the wreckage of the school. The children’s school bags are piled in front of an altar displaying their photographs. The parents would like China’s president Hu Jintao, or the prime minister, Wen Jiabao, to visit. They have heard nothing from the local authorities.
Kinda odd you didn’t run into any of them, Dave. Oh, sorry, wait. No it isn’t
A school employee in Sichuan Province has been ordered to a labor camp for a year for taking photographs of schools that collapsed in the powerful May 12 earthquake and posting them on the Internet, a human rights group reported Wednesday.
The worker, Liu Shaokun, 54, was detained at Guanghan Middle School on June 25, according to the group, Human Rights in China, which is based in New York. Family members informed the group that Mr. Liu had posted the photographs online; that has not been independently verified.
The order against Mr. Liu, for “re-education through labor,” is an extrajudicial punishment that does not require a trial.
…local government officials and law enforcement officers have been trying to quell demonstrations, banning news coverage, blocking parents’ protests and offering parents payments and pensions in exchange for their silence.
No, not odd at all
The Chinese government, under international criticism that freedom of speech would be limited during the Games, set up three designated protest zones around the capital. The people, apparently, have nothing to complain about — the parks are largely deserted.
The spots are difficult to reach and far from Olympic sites. There’s also a long list of regulations which protesters must follow to use the sites, including registering with the Beijing Public Security Bureau. Even what will be written on their placards is noted in advance.
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The activists had hoped the international media would find them, but officials and logistics and language have so far conspired to keep their stories far outside the Olympic experience. Not that the women’s day patrol down this lane thinks they should be heard.
"These are domestic affairs," 57-year-old En Shi Ju said. "We can take care of our own domestic affairs."
The lady dragons protecting the codes of this district say there are plenty of ways to be heard, and if any of them had a complaint — which they say they don’t because the government provides whatever they need — then it would be dealt with fairly.
The women slowly warm to us as we show an interest in their point of view.
"I don’t feel my human rights have been limited," says a woman in a large floppy hat.
"I have 100% liberty to express myself."
As she says this, there’s a blur to my right side.
A young man in red shorts and black dress shoes comes from nowhere, and is trying to put a small folded piece of paper in the hand holding my pen.
I reach out, and grab air.
The older women are moving like bullets from a gun. They slap the man’s hand down, and pounce.
"What are you doing?" they demand, as they chase after him.
Afraid — his chance gone — the terrified man turns and bolts down a nearby alley.
The children of the district watch him — and learn.
So, you missed stuff. It’s understandable. You can’t see everything when you’re doing a toe touch.
You managed to come to some conclusions, though, didn’t you, based on the limited information you did manage to get.
These were weird, unnerving interviews, and I don’t pretend to understand what’s going on in the minds of people who have suffered such blows and remained so optimistic. All I can imagine is that the history of this province has given these people a stripped-down, pragmatic mentality: Move on or go crazy. Don’t dwell. Look to the positive. Fix what needs fixing. Work together.
I don’t know if it’s emotionally sustainable or even healthy, but it raises at least one interesting question. When you compare these people to the emotional Sturm und Drang over lesser things on reality TV, you do wonder if we Americans are a nation of whiners.
You know, Dave, it takes a special kind of journalist to fly around the world to force a group of bereaved survivors trapped in the ruins of their lives in a corrupt totalitarian prison state to put on a show for you so you can make your set speech about sucking it up on a pile of seventy thousand bodies.
I think, though, that it actually takes you personally to top it off with an attaboy for Phil Gramm.
You don’t feel things like us, do you, dear.
*fyi, Those People being emotionally dysfunctional was also his explanation for the Iraqis not throwing flowers at us.
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ZED?
Aloha, Julia! …and nahant… 8-P
hi there.
Now You To Can Digg It!
Hey Julia,
just wandered back from a tour of the great moonlit outdoors, stopping in before bed –
David Brooks is as right as often as Bill Kristol is, which is like never.
Babbling Brooks indeed
Gee the double! The ZED and The Digg!
David Brooks is a cipher. Good review of his idiocy, Julia. And sad, isn’t it.
David Brooks, Establishment Mouthpiece.
Stands to reason that news must come from al Jazeera.
ola Julia
Now off to read the post :)
He’s a pschy for the neocons
Bobo, babbling and baffled?
Who’d a thunk?
Hai Hoolia
Bai Hoolia
;~P
Can’t wait to see what d r i f t g l a s s has to say…
wow.
With you as the self-anointed Chief Whiner, Bobo?
He’s a pathetic worm who will never ever get it.
He’s also short. Very short—I saw him on the street in deecee one day. I’m short too, so I can say it without feeling bad about it.
I imagine that he’d be one of the first to cave into doing just about anything if coerced. I don’t sense any kind of backbone in him. Kind of elitist too.
LMAO. That is too funny. An elitist with a napoleon complex
Pot meet Kettle…
Exposing the vapidity of David Brooks is akin to beating a dead horse……sensible people are so over him…..and have been for quite some time. He’s no one … to the thinking person.
I don’t know how someone as as skin-crawling despicable as David Brooks doesn’t wind up with a bloody nose just about everyday of the week just for general purposes. Just the expression on his face earns him a a belt across the nasal holes. Add to that his long list of ignorant and arrogant editorials, and the guy should be a walking punching bag. Children should nail his shins. Mothers should back hand him, fathers and brothers should scowl at him until he wets his Dockers in fear.
So you don’t think he would care to be waterboarded?
Is this a pattern I see before me? Rumsfeld – short; Libby – short; Bobo – short. Any other power mad Napoleons I’ve missed? (Damn, I’ve made myself hungry)
Bush has a nerve, I’ll give him that.
Do as I say, not as I do…! ;-)
It has to be as he says; he can’t write it out on his own.
Kristol.
Wow, Andrew Bacevich, The Limits of Power….Moyers tonight. 25 year military, now professor at Bost Univ.
Can’t we have him as VP?!
It’s just that those poor people can’t leave if the government doesn’t want them to leave, have nowhere to go, have nothing that the government doesn’t own, their corrupt local governments are taking advantage of the national government’s crazed publicity jones to put people in freaking prison camps without a trial for mentioning that their loved ones died for the rakeoff on a bag of shoddy concrete, journalists are being arrested for talking to the wrong people, and David Brooks (who himself knows the agony of slow traffic on the upper east side, believe you me, bub) turns them into some sort of b-list eccentric ethnic stoics out of bizarro-Hemingway, pays no attention to the police state behind the curtain and uses them as a stick to beat americans with, because writing a thumbsucker is easier than doing research and won’t interfere with his rythmic gymnastics tickets.
Dude, if Solzhenitsyn were still around he would slap your face.
Typical neoconservative projection attacks: Brooks is completely out of touch with his own emotions and those of others, so he assumes that the Chinese he is meeting are out of touch with their emotions and those of others.
I swear if the Democratic party wasn’t completely clueless about fighting these idiots, they could just set up a hall of mirrors and the neocons would beat themselves to death against the glass.
You stole my comment before I gave it, wobbly: “WOW,” Julia!
VP? Hell I’d love him as prez *g* I’m gushing. I think I have a new political crush
whoa, refresh and there are many people here.
Hi, many people (waves)
Same old, same old:
Republican finds shit-
Republican makes sandwich.
Beautifully said.
Hi Julia
Isn’t he somebody! Can we get him for book salon?
not one of which is connected to any healthy working synapses
I like that. I’m gonna have to steal it (well i’ll give you credit of course *g*)
I knew that as soon as I heard about the thing with the frogs and firecrackers.
Hi Julia *waving rat left over from previous thread*
Would be awesome. But I have a stack of books I still have to get through.
He is just telling the truth. Truthiness and politics don’t mix well
you remembered me of Jane’s VP Poll
must go vote
ewww rat
Likes loud noises.
Years ago, when Malcolm was running Forbes, he had this columnist, Srully Blotnick, who claimed to be running this longitudinal study and used cases from the study to write his column for the magazine. Turned out he wasn’t really running a study, he just had a good imagination.
Srully Blotnick, the spiritual father of David Brooks.
“We refuse to live within our means” Bacevich on Moyers. Oh, a little truth that hurts. We (not you and me, of course) are a mess.
no doubt he’s deaf now
Of course, David Brooks will never explore that problem. He’s such a shill.
Likes being a loud noise. Doesn’t much care what he sounds like in the process.
What? You weren’t following ratfood’s and my culinary discussion?
hmm ”father of David Brooks”
I think Brooks’ sprang forth in the parthenogenesis manner,
and yes I am questioning his masculinity.
fixed it!
that was reply to you
Sounds kinda like an old fart.
Fixed again.
I must have missed that (I was a bit engaged in another conversation).
But ummm ewwwwww lol
So I noticed.
Brilliant writing, thank you, Julia. Favorite phrase is “police state behind the curtain”. Hubris abounds. And his “soft-spoken hubris” really galls. Yes, soft-spoken, faux-sincere, willfully ingenuous in the world of psychological trauma, David. Why can’t he just join the other Republican narcissists and stop reaching so hard to add salt to now international wounds. The New York Times’ best and brightest? How sad is that?
Bacevich calling out the Democrats as well as Republicans……de facto one party. Pointing out that the voters gave Democrats power in 2006 and have failed…and have continued to appropriate what Bush wants. Totally failed.
“The Limits of Power” Andrew Bacevich. I’ll be reading it. (I’m okay with flogging David Brooks, but it is amazing to hear someone who is actually telling the truth……someone who is actually smart and not afraid to show it. His son was killed in Iraq.) Supporting the troops is more than a sticker on the back of your car. Oh, now I recall who he is, but wow, he can really put it in words. Such a contrast to Bobo’s nonsense. Just wow.
OK, it’s almost eight bells. Time to leap into my tree.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
sorry, I had to finish my newsletter column before coming back to the thread.
No, I don’t think he’d do well on the waterboard. He’d probably give up everything before they even tied his hands.
Aloha, SD!
Re-posting for late nighters:
BBQ chez RevDeb Sat. Aug. 30 (rain date Sunday Aug. 31). Philly area in the burbs. Come celebrate McThuselah’s B’day a day late and a dollar short. Those sans cars who want to take trains to Wilmington or the burbs can be fetched from stations. Millinaryman, Elliot, Scarecrow and others are coming. BYOB.
Just let me know and I’ll send details—my screen name at mac dot com. We eat well around here so come on over.
Thank you Julia. That was excellent.
Show Off!
boa noite SD
Sleep well
That was for EDP.
Dugg it
Um, you know, um, Michael Phelps needs some, um, public speaking lessons.
I’m at a loss for words, you know?
(but he can sure swim!)
He’s slipping a bit… No new WR…! ;-)
Thanks for the edit :)
I have been waiitng for track and field for what seems like forever.
Another day gone when they had predicted a 70% chance of thunderstorms—and not a drop of rain fell.
I’m getting pretty tired of the inaccuracy of the meteorologists at noaa. The Bushies must have installed Regent grads and f*cked up that agency too. Any bets?
Yep. This is the good part.
We’ll be dealing with the not-the-bests-but-good-at-God for decades; sit back and tolerate the mess ups.
Don’t get me wrong, I like swimming, basketball and soccer but track and field is my favorite
Agreed. Right there.
beach volley ball alert
oh, oops it’s men, not women. sorry guys
That’s OK – we’re told by the announcers that tha Swiss captain is a hot-house flower with a Bobby Knight-like temper. Should be interesting.
Shorter Bobo: Message to Whiney Americans: Buck up and be more inscrutable! (Sounds like he been hanging with Phil Gramm.)
they probably had to pass a roe v. wade litmus test
He’s not going to start throwing chairs, I hope
What makes you think they are “good at God?”
sigh…that was for newtonusr @ 77
only by their own twisted standards
Cuz they say they are! (And, No, I don’t think they’ve got any special godliness, but I suspect that they think they do.)
you know, I would hate to be a career federal employee and have people thinking such thoughts about me…
the damage bush has done is immesurable
Why, because they say so. At every opportunity.
I wish I could turn $5K into $100K too…
immeasurable
Excellent turnout at our Florence Oregon Firepup meetup….it was just me and Suzanne….. lunch waterside
Actually, I think the operative word is “God” and not “good.”
You know, the one that ignores his only begotten son… Prince of Peace and all that.
Renamed properly, they should be called “The ignorant tight-ass Old Testament party.”
fyi, this was my first exposure to Bacevich.
Jane highlighted him back in July, and Eli had him in January
Indeed……and any way you want to spell it! beyond count. and beyond belief……. I just hope we can get out country back.
or just ”the abomination”
Did Suz make it to her beachhouse yet?
sounds heavenly
bush footage on my local TV station…”bullying and intimidation are no way to conduct foreign policy”
is he as clueless to the irony of that statement as he is to everything else?
Thanks for the catch-up, Julia. You did good (as we used to say in south Ohio) with your post….
Suzanne is at the beach house (lucky girl!) and is settling in.
She had a nice day driving, lunch with katymine, and should be charged up very soon.
Aah, neuro ya must’ve missed my 18, eh? ;-)
So she has internet access there, LM?
LOL I was still watching the Olympics when you made that comment and I have not had a chance to catch up…
Pot meet Kettle indeed
I wouldn’t go there—Ignorant and tight-assed yes, OT party? They obviously haven’t read it all. They seem to have left out the justice parts—and the parts of the holiness code that aren’t about sex, generally any of the parts that don’t prove their pre-determined points.
where? i’m n seohio and from sw ohio
oh, dear. I’m afraid I’m not very good company this evening, and the conversation is getting by me somehow – I should really get some sleep so I won’t be so useless tomorrow night (I’m doing late night then too). Thanks, masaccio, for reminding me of Srully Blotnick, who’s name I haven’t heard for decades, and hey, spocko, and thanks all and g’night.
She should of…. she stopped for lunch and had another 1-1.5 hr drive north…. She left here around 3pm… We had a so much fun…..
great post
nite julia
i still l wanna know who ‘lurking mod’ is….just sayin’
Thanks for letting me know…..
I’m not telling….. besides TLM is bigger than me…. and… and…. has the power…… the power to ban me….
was a social worker/probation officer(kids & families/adolescent therapist in Warren County. Dealt with lots of troubled families. Raised my kids near Cincinnati. Back in California now after 25 years in the Midwest. One of my favorite south Ohio constructs: The lawn needs mowed. The car needs lubed. Still use that grammatical construct for economy and for a touch back to my pals in Ohio.
be careful what you wish for
bwahahahaha
*drive by*
am at the house (which is great and just my size) and am loving it. i would probably love it even more if i wasn’t so tired. gorgeous, forking gorgeous coastline – i’m one block from the end of the bluff overlooking the beach.
wanted to say i’m here and the car handled the ride up great with great gas milage. it was 101 in portland and 59 and foggy here when i arrived – poifect for me. when i get a camera, i’ll take pictures – for now, its a hot bath and a good night’s sleep.
katymine treated me to a fantabulous lunch with great food and even better conversation. next time, my treat katymine.
a steamy hot bath is calling my name… g’nite all
From the FDL newsbox… The Why-Haven’t-You Impeached-the-President Tour…
Uhmmm, Rahm, if ya want to win elections… Impeach the B*stards…! You tin-eared shill…
Hey Suz, glad to hear you’ve arrived. Be sure to make a shallow dive into the tub :~)
Nite Suzanne…. I bet my soaking tub is better than yours….;)
Glad you are there safe and sound, Suzanne. Sleep well……hope you can hear the waves against the shore.
I get it – humor!
Get some sleep, Suz!
boa noite, Suz
glad you made it okay.
Hi and bye, Suz!
Amen!!
They are torturing me with the volleyball. more track & field, please
and i did this post, daring suz to do the same thing this guy did…….
david brooks did not do this while he was in china, too uptight.
this is not blogwhoring, this is a video
my mom sent to me , imagine doing this….i imagined suz doing this. she knows it, i sent it to her.
this guy literally danced all over the world. better diplomat than condi.
http://justsomethinginoticed.blogspot.com/
What is this world coming to….. Mrs Fields Cookies has filed for bankruptcy ……. even the vices are dying on the vine…
It is after 12am NYC and they put the low viewer sports on….. you know that there is no world west of NYC…..
wow. I was wondering why I didn’t one in my local mall here anymore (there used to be two there)
How foolish of me to forget that. *rolls eyes* they say they were showing track and field, they show one damn race and then I get swiss boy withthe tude playing volleyball and it looks like its going to go yet another set…damn
Worry not. The final week is ours.
*inhales/exhales deeply…many times*
Yes, you are right. It will be all ours.
He may have been impeached by history, but he still has the power to pardon every last crook he had working for him and get off himself.
That does not qualify as a substitute for impeachment.
And with that I’ll take my leave. Sweet dreams all.
boa noite Rev
The animales in my ousehave decided to play tag. great
Elmore (boyfriend) did three Olympics… his sport was indoor volleyball and had to wait until way late to watch his venue…… The NYC folks forget there is another 3000 miles of country and WE would like to see the real stuff…. TOO ….
suz–nothin’ like a hot tub…
dearie-
close ties to all of the things you mentioned, the job and the people. and the cities…makes me wonder if we knew each other..or my parents.
click on my name , go to profile for email.
Aloha, Rev!
yeah, we all have things we can’t talk about.if we want to be trusted.
Hi Suz glad you made it to your “new Home” ((((Suz))))
trustworthy.
Brooks is so awful it is beyond belief.
amen but we don’t rate live coverage except at like midnight…which is why I try to catch as much as possible on Globo but even that can suck (table tennis anyone?)
I’m watching track and field right now in CDT…
So what is everyone planning on doing this weekend?
Which means I would have to stay up until 2am here on the Left coast….
I got table tenis on globo and now Swimming (200 m backstroke..women) on NBC. but as newtonusr said, the final week is all ours :)
friends loved maui, discovered vladimir kush
http://www.linkinn.com/_Surrea…..h_Pictures
his sculpture is taken from the objects in his art
http://www.blackpearlfineart.com/Kush-Bronze.html
http://www.vladimirkush.com
Birthday party tomorrow night. Going hiking in Santa Monica Mtns sunday morning with the visiting kiwis.
Suz! I’m so glad you’re there and had a good trip up. Sleep well.
ES is ready for us up top.
ES has tunes
(((Margot)))
ok you asked–my to-do list==
everything in the fridge ready.
strawberry sorbet–whit rose water.
broke out my old yogurt maker—making yogurt, looked up how many hours-more hours more tart….was making it back in late 70’s and 80’s back before there was a word for ‘health food’ and ‘whole foods’ then didn’t . back to making it again, tastes better to me. we have a dairy here-snowville-that homogenizes but not pasturizes, yum. for coffee, don’t shake, cream, or strawberries.
potting hostas for my deck. got them for a dollar.
making pesto from the massive amounts of basil i have, i had some and friends from the market gave me a bagful……bought pine nuts back in winter when they were cheap. also have walnuts to make a more mild version.
cookout at the friends house on my flicker page that could be in any gardening magazine. stop by friends who have the horse farm.
and maybe, if i can stomach it, got an invitation, obama office opening up in a town near here,,,,,only thing is, gary wilhelm is opening it…google gary wilhelm and snowden lake. hocking college.
and take my callie for a ride in the car.cuz that’s what she lives for.
take out more crap to the curb for the trash man.l
so, weekend of things that fill my soul. really.
muy browser is taking forever tonight, and fdl…nite.
i meant snowville milk outta make really good yogurt
What a disgusting,self important buffoon and really,just a dick. I really wish to gawd we valued listening to smart people in America. I cannot for the life of me get why this man’s opinion is worth so much money. They’ve got the right to free speech and all,but I don’t recall anyone being promised their opinion deserved a paycheck. I know this country has better thinkers and writers. The fact that this sheltered,pampered,nitwit is even on my radar screen pisses me off.
I’ve noticed this pundit trend since the Olympics started. It’s come up more than a few times how the Chinese value hard work for little material reward. How doing with less is seen as noble. No pain,no gain. Like they’re talking to us little people how we could maybe be a little more like those nice obedient and industrious Chinese.
Gah. EPU’d,just had to get it off my chest. I loathe that little turd.
While I agree with the many writers who point out that people living in a totalitarian society have to hide their feelings, I need to make a contraian viewpoint.
My wife is a native of south east china, and I have had many friends over the past ten years from China (and Taiwan). It is my opinion, based on knowing these people, that the Chinese people are much more reserved in showing emotion, and much more “resilient” and emotionally reserved, than people of any other culture I have known.
Example: My wife had actually only arrived in the US a few weeks prior to us being caught up in Hurricane Katrina. During the storm, trapped in a flooding house, and afterwards during the year-long cleanup, she appeared much more balanced and focused than myself. I noticed the same things with her local native Chinese friends. It’s been a similar experience seeing how my friends and in-laws in China react to disasters, and misfortune.
I make no value judgment as to whether this shows superiority towards or against either US or Chinese culture. It is what it is.
There is no one way to handle tragedy or experience emotion. Brooks looks at the Chiness from his own narrow prism the same as he writes, from a narrow and shallow prism. People that have fewer options and different cultural experiences are bound to respond differently than idiots like Brooks prescribe as “normal.” Why should we be surprised, Brooks writing shows he doesn’t even get what’s going on in this country.
Julia for the win.