Hi Jane!

Quoting Rachel Maddow – “Yeah, you and whose Army”?

“McWains World, McWain’s World…”

This is the best clip illustrating McSames war longing – a must see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

Hi, Jane. This Pinkerton guy must be strange. People don’t even talk about affirmative action any more…at least not that I hear. Are white people still angry about it?

Anyone else offended that McCain’s “We are all Georgians” line echoes the French “We Are All Americans” headline that ran after 9/11, symbolic of the goodwill towards the U.S. which the Bush cabal quickly pissed away?

“That’s the night that the right wigged out on Georgia”

At his appearance yesterday McCain also made a clumsy attempt to link our energy security with the invasion of Georgia (and presumable Russian control of the Baku-Ceyhan pipeline). This got bigger applause than “We are all Georgians”. What a crank. It’s just a (predictable) shame that Obama follows up by endorsing a NATO Membership Action Plan for Georgia and is unwilling to call a U.S. foreign policy failure a failure here: the Russians can go around invading our allies largely because we (along with 2000 Georgians!) are in Iraq.

But let Obama say “I am a citizen of the world”

The Republics hope to generate much anger this year.

zed #2? on the same thread?

(ok – I’m embarrassed for myself)

that is a truly disturbing video.

The McCain campaign has obviously decided to play the national security card over the Russia/Georgia contratemps with the hope that the sight of John McCain banging his cane on the ground will make the country feel safe.

Hilarious.

He called Saakashvili? Where is the wingnut outrage that greeted Nancy Pelosi and Jimmy Carter over ostensible violations of the Logan Act?

Seems terribly presumptuous for someone who is merely a candidate.

Also Obama’s advisers are trying to move to the center on this, with him talking about letting Georgia into NATO. Ghu, you’d think they’d have noticed by now that putting daylight between the Ds and the Rs gets more votes for the Democrats (and doesn’t help guys like Nader: that’s half his platform right there, that you can’t tell the difference between the Ds and the Rs).

I don’t think that letting Georgia into NATO would help anyone much at this point: it’s been pointed out that Russia doesn’t want NATO right on its borders, so that’s not helpful.

I’d like to push the idea in the media that McCain is Bush on steroids (with the underlying implication that he might be as dangerous as if he’d been literally on steroids for years).

OT The chairman of the Arkansas Dem party has been shot and in very serios condition

http://www2.arkansasonline.com…..party-hea/

gee Jane,

why dont we have more posts on the Confucian Problem, hmmmm ??

The McCain campaign has obviously decided to play the national security card over the Russia/Georgia contratemps with the hope that the sight of John McCain banging his cane on the ground will make the country feel safe.

Randy Scheunemann: [singing] If you’re blue, and you don’t know where to go to, why don’t you go where fashion sits…
John McCain: ‘UTTIN’ ON THE ‘IIIIITZ.

I was wondering that myself.

oh and btw, Saakashvili asks his BFF,

Where’s The Beef ?!?!?

I was commenting on this earlier today, and it seems, unfortunately, entirely plausible.

Saakashvilli is cooperating:

I think your intuition is right here. Most people are interpreting the Shaakashvili statement as some smackdown of McCain, but I’m skeptical when Saakashvili is a creature of neocons. He seems to be setting the stage for McCain to utter something really dramatic and, of course, insane.

White America wants someone to pay the price for affirmative action.

Said that out loud?
WTF?!!

Dood, that is so fucked up I don’t even know where to start!

WMD’s Willful, misrepresentations and deceptions….

And Rove was on the lam in Yalta a few weeks ago. Find out who else was there.

And Saakashvili was there.

John McCain havin’ his Alexander “I am in charge” moment here.

Pinkerton went to Stanford. I think it might be something in the water.

Jim’s point is correct on the anti-Obama affirmative action vote. I heard that point just this week from a Dallas Republican who assured me that all the Blacks want to do is get back at the Whites for what the Whites did to them. It’s as simple as that. Obama has a tough row to hoe. The polls are going to outrace his actual vote.

Still hoping he can pull it off.

I’m sure the honest forthright hardworking MSM will be right on it.

Per CNN via HuffPo:

Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili on Wednesday called for John McCain and other American leaders to do more for Georgia in their response to the conflict in his country.

“Yesterday, I heard Sen. McCain say, ‘We are all Georgians now,’” Saakashvili said on CNN’s American Morning. “Well, very nice, you know, very cheering for us to hear that, but OK, it’s time to pass from this. From words to deeds.”

[…]

… Saakashvili said action is more important than rhetoric in the face of “brutal” and “deliberate” Russian violence. He urged the United States to take the lead in installing an international peacekeeping force.

“We should realize what is at stake here for Americans,” he said. “America is losing the whole region.”

“What Americans should do know, first of all, clearly make known their intentions,” he said.

Eeny Meeny Miny Moe! Will Russia or Iran be the first to go.

He might have his finger on the pulse of the white supremacist vote but I kind of suspect that demographic broke for McCain from the outset…

For Jim,
Help me remember. Hasn’t Germany been a Christian country for some time? And wasn’t it involved with a few other Christian countries in a couple of World Wars? Didn’t the Christian countries of France and England have like a Hundred Years War or something? Christian countries always defend each other? Really?

these are some desperate muthas – terra, teh gay, and booga booga immigrants!, not working so well – so they dance with what brung ‘em, affirmative action ? hell yeah! evil empire ? check

those of us of a certain age are waiting for the campaign against fluoridated water! and pay teevee !

ps – did you get the kitteh vid I left at your place ?

Sure enough did!
Thanks.

ummm, last January there were rumblings in Georgia
after their election
The new president felt he had backing from BOTH candidates for the US elections…
so I’m wondering if Shaaskashvili planned his August surprise long ago

I gotta admit that once I read some of Wigwam’s seven links to articles indicating that we currently have a regular armada headed for the Suez Canal, I couldn’t help but wonder if Russia isn’t doing this in Georgia as a warning to us about overextending our resources. This is a little more than saber rattling, but isn’t there an unstated threat her about the “what-ifs”? Maybe this time they want to have some say about where the battleground will be, and they are saying that we all have our problems; it can’t always be about us!

McClatchey reports US sending ‘humanitrian aid’ and personnel to deliver it to Georgia. No doubt the shrub’s response, like his response to Fallujah. The odds are that the Russians moving to take the airport at Tbilisi to prevent a confrontation sure to happen if American troops are landed.

I have a question: does the War Powers Act or whatever it is allow the President unilaterally to declare war on Russia? Just wondering.

Randy’s firm renewed its Georgia contract three months ago — for $200,000. Randy doesn’t lobby anymore, but there are only two members of the firm. The same day Randy renewed his contract, he prepped McCain for a phone call with Georgia’s president.

Where are Obama’s surrogates on this? Someone will a megaphone needs to yell at McSame on his lobbyist-driven bellicosity towards Russia. McCain’s policies are bought and paid for by the Georgia government. This needs hammering.

OT,

Gunman Critically Wounds Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman

By STEVE BARNES

Bill Gwatney, the chairman of the Arkansas Democratic party, was shot and critically wounded in his office in Little Rock Wednesday morning, police officials said.

The officials said a single gunman fired three shots Mr. Gwatney, a former state legislator, in his office a few blocks from the state Capitol and then drove away. The gunman was pursued by police officers and was apprehended after being shot during a lengthy chase.

KTHV-TV reported that Mr. Gwatney was hospitalized in critical condition.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08…..ref=slogin

In Republicanspeak, “humanitarian aid” usually refers to arms and CIA trainers.

Well, after all, isn’t that what they’re best at?

No shit.

See # 15

We already had several trainers there

Sorry, I am at work, popping in and out, I didn’t see your post.

The MSM should be doing the hammering but that’s beating a dead horse.

No Problemo

Get the fainting couch! The AP is slamming Randy and McCain AND tying them to the neocon ivasion of Iraq:

No one in Washington is more closely aligned with the Bush administration’s decision to invade Iraq than prominent neoconservatives, who for years had regime change in Iraq as a goal as part of their philosophy that the United States shouldn’t be reluctant to use its power, both diplomatic and military, to spread democracy and to guarantee world order.

Now, McCain and other politicians who pushed for the invasion are seeking to emphasize the progress, albeit fragile, of the current troop surge in Iraq.

In the months before the war began, Scheuenemann ran the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, set up in November 2002 when public support for the looming invasion was eroding.

Before that, Scheunemann was on board with the Project for the New American Century, whose letter to Bush nine days after the Sept. 11 attacks pointed to Iraq as a possible link to the terrorists.

The letter said American forces must be prepared to support “by all means necessary” the U.S. government’s commitment to opponents of Saddam Hussein.

Scheunemann was among the letter’s 37 signers, a Who’s Who of neoconservative luminaries including William Kristol and Richard Perle.

If anything, Scheunemann’s duties have been enhanced from McCain’s 2000 presidential campaign, when Scheunemann also advised McCain on national security and foreign policy issues.

I wonder which of O’Reilly, Hannity, Coulter or Limbaugh’s books the shooter has at home on his bookshelf. Shooting “liberals,” it’s like a slow-motion kristallnacht.

They have made a statement on this, but didn’t follow up, while McCain and press allies counterattacked.

See post @ 3 – watch thru

McCain’s policies are bought and paid for by the Georgia government.

People are putting the cart before the horse. The Georgian government is bought and paid for by American money.

Your weather forecast for Oct: A “McCainy Night in Georgia”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QFQY2cxiXE

Actually Mr. McWar, it would be much more accurate to say that we are all New Orleaners or all South Ossetians, all being threatened by jackboot corporate fascism, be it from the Bush gangster regime or from its little Georgian puppet.

To get a view different from our lying corporate media and Bush/Cheney/McWar, and to see the murderous Georgian slaughter of the South Ossetians, see the Russia Today news show on some PBS stations (KMTP, Ch. 32 in San Francisco, on at 8 AM and 5 PM) or visit their website, http://www.russiatoday.com.

Thanks, Mike, that is a very powerful piece.

Barring some massive escalation in scale, I don’t think this conflict will muster any additional votes for McCain. McCain voter = low information.

Soon they’ll have this film, An American Carol, complete with zombie liberals that won’t die no matter how much you shoot them.

-G

Thanks for that credulous invective and discerning regurgitation of propaganda.

almost spooky that we have nothing in that area right now.

USS Lincoln was the only carrier left in the Gulf, moved out about a month ago and is now just off Oman Coast in N Arabian Sea

makes me nervous to think their rationale may be not to want to lose a carrier if something should happen in the region :~o

got a current link on Suez ?

I would be very surprised if there aren’t shooting ranges with targets which feature likenesses of prominent “liberals.”

OT – secular humanists and other rational types, rejoice:

(08-12) 17:25 PDT SAN FRANCISCO — A federal judge says the University of California can deny course credit to applicants from Christian high schools whose textbooks declare the Bible infallible and reject evolution.

Rejecting claims of religious discrimination and stifling of free expression, U.S. District Judge James Otero of Los Angeles said UC’s review committees cited legitimate reasons for rejecting the texts – not because they contained religious viewpoints, but because they omitted important topics in science and history and failed to teach critical thinking.

I wouldn’t believe Russian propoganda any more than I would believe Georgian propoganda. Between the two of them, who could choose?

Wow, maybe there is a God…

LOL

Scarecrow upstairs.

New Scarecrow upstairs

When does McCain start complaining about “activist judges”?

Those activist judges will do anything to get a headline./s

I owe you.

Everything about this, except for the miscalculated Russian response into Georgia, has the air of a ‘production’. I found it particularly odd over the weekend on Sunday on CNN when they had an extended tv interview with a desperate Saakashvili talking with a cell phone up to his head pointing at maps in some bunker office -odd because the audio quality was absolutely ‘pitch perfect’ for all the US viewers to be able to hear. In that moment, the whole scene had an eerie feeling of being staged for US consumption.

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That’s a great video, thanks. McCain really is a worse warmonger than Cheney.

Fox News will, without a doubt, have no difficulty choosing.

Lord Cheney resents you putting anyone ahead of him in that category.

Wigwam has seven links that I don’t think I can recopy, but the post was:

Health Care or Off Shore Drilling? You Decide
By: Jane Hamsher Wednesday August 13, 2008 6:09 am

Wigwam’s comment included seven links to articles about where our ships are and it was #18 at 7:16 AM. I’ve seen nothing of this in the stateside reporting; these are pretty much foreign sources.

I am quite sure it would not matter to this President. So would anyone oppose him? He is not bothered by laws or other niceties.

Thank you. That is so good and clear. Who will make the font bigger and noise louder?

Jane,
As always, you’re right on target.

I wonder if McCain is confusing his Georgias, and thinks winning Georgia is part of the Southern Electoral Strategy that has served Republicans so well for the past few decades?

Bob in HI

Hamsher and Barr! Hamsher and Fein! Hamsher and Pinkerton! Some really great bloggingheads episodes recently, Jane.