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	<title>Comments on: A Government Run By Inept Criminals.  Great.</title>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/13/a-government-run-by-inept-criminals-great/#comment-1579741</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christy, could an invitation go forth to Suskind to do a Book Chat here, perhaps in six weeks or so, given that it is important that people read his book first before discussion?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And yes, setting Suskind’s material in the context of the Plame/Wilson matter is important.  While we know the forged Habbush letter was released in Baghdad in December, 2003, the content of the letter (at least to me) suggests it was written in the immediate wake of the CIA’s referral of the outing of Plame to DoJ, and the beginning of the FBI investigation.  There are three elements to the forgery — 1)a counter to Joe Wilson’s material on “what he didn’t learn in Africa.” and 2) an effort to place Atta in Iraq prior to 9/11 getting terrorist training, and 3) an effort to link Syria and Libya to an al-Qaeda project to move the Niger Yellow Cake from Niger to Iraq in 2001.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You have to ask yourself, Who, in the late-summer, early fall of 2003 would have wanted these three elements to have veracity in the wake of the Iraq invasion, and the beginning of the spin down of that to insurgency, and the two investigations then underway — DoJ’s FBI investigation of what became the Plame matter, and the then ongoing work of the 9/11 commission investigation, which ultimately ratified the FBI’s debunking of the claim that Atta had a Czech or an Iraqi link in the summer of 2001, and the blatent attempt to lay cause for war against Syria and Libya?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is not only the CIA that was being thrown under the bus here, it was also FBI.  The forgery clearly attempted to discredit the FBI.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So next questions in historical context — did this have anything to do with Ashcroft’s willingness to step aside from the Plame investigation in the fall of 2003?  Did it have anything to do with Comey’s selection of Pat Fitzgerald as special prosecutor at the tail end of 2003, two weeks after the forgery came out in the Telegraph in London — a Pat Fitzgerald who was already smelling around Conrad Black in Chicago, at a time when Black owned the Telegraph — which he later sold to Murdoch.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have on this blog people who know this stuff pretty cold, and can do the necessary historical layering so as to cross reference all our sources and paint a much more detailed picture.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy, could an invitation go forth to Suskind to do a Book Chat here, perhaps in six weeks or so, given that it is important that people read his book first before discussion?</p>
<p>And yes, setting Suskind’s material in the context of the Plame/Wilson matter is important.  While we know the forged Habbush letter was released in Baghdad in December, 2003, the content of the letter (at least to me) suggests it was written in the immediate wake of the CIA’s referral of the outing of Plame to DoJ, and the beginning of the FBI investigation.  There are three elements to the forgery — 1)a counter to Joe Wilson’s material on “what he didn’t learn in Africa.” and 2) an effort to place Atta in Iraq prior to 9/11 getting terrorist training, and 3) an effort to link Syria and Libya to an al-Qaeda project to move the Niger Yellow Cake from Niger to Iraq in 2001.  </p>
<p>You have to ask yourself, Who, in the late-summer, early fall of 2003 would have wanted these three elements to have veracity in the wake of the Iraq invasion, and the beginning of the spin down of that to insurgency, and the two investigations then underway — DoJ’s FBI investigation of what became the Plame matter, and the then ongoing work of the 9/11 commission investigation, which ultimately ratified the FBI’s debunking of the claim that Atta had a Czech or an Iraqi link in the summer of 2001, and the blatent attempt to lay cause for war against Syria and Libya?</p>
<p>It is not only the CIA that was being thrown under the bus here, it was also FBI.  The forgery clearly attempted to discredit the FBI.  </p>
<p>So next questions in historical context — did this have anything to do with Ashcroft’s willingness to step aside from the Plame investigation in the fall of 2003?  Did it have anything to do with Comey’s selection of Pat Fitzgerald as special prosecutor at the tail end of 2003, two weeks after the forgery came out in the Telegraph in London — a Pat Fitzgerald who was already smelling around Conrad Black in Chicago, at a time when Black owned the Telegraph — which he later sold to Murdoch.  </p>
<p>We have on this blog people who know this stuff pretty cold, and can do the necessary historical layering so as to cross reference all our sources and paint a much more detailed picture.</p>
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		<title>By: victoria</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/13/a-government-run-by-inept-criminals-great/#comment-1579517</link>
		<dc:creator>victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Seems like Nancy is getting an ear full during her book tour.  And she seems genuinely surprised that people are outraged at her unwillingness to impeach.  She is beginning to sound really defensive.  Disgusting that she is so completely out of touch.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like Nancy is getting an ear full during her book tour.  And she seems genuinely surprised that people are outraged at her unwillingness to impeach.  She is beginning to sound really defensive.  Disgusting that she is so completely out of touch.</p>
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		<title>By: victoria</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/13/a-government-run-by-inept-criminals-great/#comment-1579508</link>
		<dc:creator>victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Next on the impeachment list should be Mukasey.  What a slimy piece of work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next on the impeachment list should be Mukasey.  What a slimy piece of work.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/13/a-government-run-by-inept-criminals-great/#comment-1579361</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What RevBev said.&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks, Christy!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What RevBev said.<br />
Thanks, Christy!</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Focusing on Dick Cheney’s “micro-management”, code for his usurpation of control over intelligence and foreign policy matters, is useful.  But it would be a mistake to assume such control is limited just to those two areas.  His shadow control spreads across government, from the FCC to the Pentagon, as does the shadow network that functions as his grapevine and alternative chain of command.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sure, you could constitutionally tell the veep’s man to pound salt, you work for the President.  But when the President fails to assert his own authority or priorities in such contests, fails to affirm his own chain of command and simply backs Cheney’s man (in the rare circumstances where he even hears about such conflicts - which he is famous for saying he wants no part of), then Cheney wins and everybody knows it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Focusing on Dick Cheney’s “micro-management”, code for his usurpation of control over intelligence and foreign policy matters, is useful.  But it would be a mistake to assume such control is limited just to those two areas.  His shadow control spreads across government, from the FCC to the Pentagon, as does the shadow network that functions as his grapevine and alternative chain of command.</p>
<p>Sure, you could constitutionally tell the veep’s man to pound salt, you work for the President.  But when the President fails to assert his own authority or priorities in such contests, fails to affirm his own chain of command and simply backs Cheney’s man (in the rare circumstances where he even hears about such conflicts &#8211; which he is famous for saying he wants no part of), then Cheney wins and everybody knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/13/a-government-run-by-inept-criminals-great/#comment-1579322</link>
		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;His a disgusting liar.  You don’t get together with fakes, frauds, phonies and people who have not moral or ethical compass.  Powell is a creep, and that needs to be driven home.  The myth has to be busted.  He’s a fraud.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His a disgusting liar.  You don’t get together with fakes, frauds, phonies and people who have not moral or ethical compass.  Powell is a creep, and that needs to be driven home.  The myth has to be busted.  He’s a fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/13/a-government-run-by-inept-criminals-great/#comment-1579301</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like his chief of staff far more the powell, his chief of staff has shown some real balls and called cheney out, the press ignored him&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like his chief of staff far more the powell, his chief of staff has shown some real balls and called cheney out, the press ignored him</p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/13/a-government-run-by-inept-criminals-great/#comment-1579279</link>
		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m sure your friend is great person and don’t hold anything against them, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geocities.com/~virtualtruth/chiquita.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chiquita is formerly United Fruit Co.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m sure your friend is great person and don’t hold anything against them, but <a href="http://www.geocities.com/~virtualtruth/chiquita.htm" rel="nofollow">Chiquita is formerly United Fruit Co.</a></p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/13/a-government-run-by-inept-criminals-great/#comment-1579277</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Vice President is an insane warmongering criminal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;       Not impeaching him will ring down in history as a horrible mistake.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;       And the worst may be yet to come!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree if you Teddy extend it to the whole Maladministration&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vice President is an insane warmongering criminal.</p>
<p>       Not impeaching him will ring down in history as a horrible mistake.</p>
<p>       And the worst may be yet to come!</p>
<p>I agree if you Teddy extend it to the whole Maladministration</p>
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		<title>By: ratfood</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/13/a-government-run-by-inept-criminals-great/#comment-1579269</link>
		<dc:creator>ratfood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had somehow forgotten about the fact that U.S. forces bulldozed bodies of civilians into mass graves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In all fairness, Noriega had publicly &lt;em&gt;taunted&lt;/em&gt; Bush 41, waving a sword at the cameras and everything. Clearly a threat to world peace.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had somehow forgotten about the fact that U.S. forces bulldozed bodies of civilians into mass graves.</p>
<p>In all fairness, Noriega had publicly <em>taunted</em> Bush 41, waving a sword at the cameras and everything. Clearly a threat to world peace.</p>
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