Comments on: The Stuff They Won’t Tell You http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:19:30 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Cujo359 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577111 Cujo359 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:01:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577111 <blockquote><p> Could it be that Edwards’ real crime was being a self-made rich guy who wanted to do right by the not-so-rich and dared to tweak the consciences of the rich guys who are the opinion tastemakers in our media? </p></blockquote> <p>The thought occurred, yes. It fits in with the general pattern of the way they treated Edwards, which is like someone who was a traitor to them and all the other elitists in the Washington press corps.</p> <p>I <a href="http://cujo359.blogspot.com/2008/08/lets-focus-on-irrelevance-shall-we.html" rel="nofollow">wrote this</a> about Jane’s analysis the other day:</p> <blockquote><p> The amnesia comes in because six months ago, Edwards couldn’t catch a break with the broadcast news. They chattered endlessly about his expensive haircuts, how he didn’t stay home with his sick wife, and (ironically) how <em>gay</em> he looks. </p></blockquote> <p>What else would we expect?</p> <p>I like how Edwards worked McCain’s affairs into the conversation. I think the difference in how these turned out is an interesting contrast in character - Edwards came back to his wife and apologized; McCain never looked back.</p>

Could it be that Edwards’ real crime was being a self-made rich guy who wanted to do right by the not-so-rich and dared to tweak the consciences of the rich guys who are the opinion tastemakers in our media?

The thought occurred, yes. It fits in with the general pattern of the way they treated Edwards, which is like someone who was a traitor to them and all the other elitists in the Washington press corps.

I wrote this about Jane’s analysis the other day:

The amnesia comes in because six months ago, Edwards couldn’t catch a break with the broadcast news. They chattered endlessly about his expensive haircuts, how he didn’t stay home with his sick wife, and (ironically) how gay he looks.

What else would we expect?

I like how Edwards worked McCain’s affairs into the conversation. I think the difference in how these turned out is an interesting contrast in character – Edwards came back to his wife and apologized; McCain never looked back.

]]> By: TheLurkingMod http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577032 TheLurkingMod Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:17:22 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577032 <p>watertiger is upstairs!<br /><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-ghost-of-richard-nixon-i-opened-china-for-this/" rel="nofollow">The Ghost of Richard Nixon: “I Opened China for THIS?”</a></p> watertiger is upstairs!
The Ghost of Richard Nixon: “I Opened China for THIS?”

]]> By: neurophius http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577026 neurophius Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:12:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577026 <p>…and that’s <em>hard work.</em></p> …and that’s hard work.

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577025 dmac Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:12:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577025 <p>what you wrote was contradictory, but i thought that’s what you meant. that’s what i read anyway.</p> <p>i don’t care who sleeps with whom, except for the price that’s attached. and who is really paying for it.</p> what you wrote was contradictory, but i thought that’s what you meant. that’s what i read anyway.

i don’t care who sleeps with whom, except for the price that’s attached. and who is really paying for it.

]]> By: DWR1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577020 DWR1 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:03:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577020 <p>I agree with you totally. What I mean is that while McCain certainly lacks character, I don’t think it benefits Edwards to whine, “Well, he did it too!” I.e., Edwards isn’t off the hook just because he also lacks character.</p> I agree with you totally. What I mean is that while McCain certainly lacks character, I don’t think it benefits Edwards to whine, “Well, he did it too!” I.e., Edwards isn’t off the hook just because he also lacks character.

]]> By: ratfood http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577018 ratfood Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:02:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577018 <p>It struck me that during the credible portions, his gaze was steady but whenever he appeared to be hedging, regarding the pics with the baby or whether payments had been made, he started blinking rapidly. Bad poker face for a trial lawyer.</p> It struck me that during the credible portions, his gaze was steady but whenever he appeared to be hedging, regarding the pics with the baby or whether payments had been made, he started blinking rapidly. Bad poker face for a trial lawyer.

]]> By: AmericanInsurgent http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577017 AmericanInsurgent Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:01:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577017 <p>Great idea.<br /> Too bad Crash McCain owns the MSM.<br /> It’s up to us to spread the truth about this adulterer. He committed adultery with a lobbyist who lobbied his committee. He committed adultery with Cindy McCain on his first wife. Ross Perot still hates him for it. Some 527 needs to recruit Perot for a commercial.<br /> McCain crashed 5 planes while in the navy. Do we really want a president who crashed 5 planes? If his dad and grandfather hadn’t been admirals he’d have been kicked out of the naval academy and the navy.<br /> Another good way to connect McCain to Bush. Bush avoided AWOL and got into Harvard and Yale on daddy’s coattails. McCain graduated 5th from bottom of class at naval academy but still got coveted pilot job. Crashed 5 planes but no consequences.<br /> Both Bush and McCain have short tempers and have no business being commander in chief.</p> Great idea.
Too bad Crash McCain owns the MSM.
It’s up to us to spread the truth about this adulterer. He committed adultery with a lobbyist who lobbied his committee. He committed adultery with Cindy McCain on his first wife. Ross Perot still hates him for it. Some 527 needs to recruit Perot for a commercial.
McCain crashed 5 planes while in the navy. Do we really want a president who crashed 5 planes? If his dad and grandfather hadn’t been admirals he’d have been kicked out of the naval academy and the navy.
Another good way to connect McCain to Bush. Bush avoided AWOL and got into Harvard and Yale on daddy’s coattails. McCain graduated 5th from bottom of class at naval academy but still got coveted pilot job. Crashed 5 planes but no consequences.
Both Bush and McCain have short tempers and have no business being commander in chief.

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577012 dmac Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:59:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577012 <p>messing around with Cindy while married was a pretty long time ago and he wasn’t running for President.<br /> ====<br /> he was in public office. met her at a fundraiser.<br /> repeated behavior…</p> <p>does that qualify?</p> <p>and if it’s about character as you say-it shouldn’t matter if it was years ago or yesterday. </p> <p>i think you meant it’s about misrepresentation, not character?</p> messing around with Cindy while married was a pretty long time ago and he wasn’t running for President.
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he was in public office. met her at a fundraiser.
repeated behavior…

does that qualify?

and if it’s about character as you say-it shouldn’t matter if it was years ago or yesterday.

i think you meant it’s about misrepresentation, not character?

]]> By: DWR1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577010 DWR1 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:58:39 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577010 <p>Also, if you haven’t watched the Woodruff interview, I recommend it. It’s on YouTube in 3 parts. I think Edwards is lying through his teeth about the timing. He was all lawyerly and noncommittal about whether or not he hired her after launching his ‘blip’ with the burned out party girl. I think there is more sordidness that will probably ooze out over time. And Elizabeth apparently knew all about it while she shilled for him using their great family as a reason to elect the adulterer.</p> Also, if you haven’t watched the Woodruff interview, I recommend it. It’s on YouTube in 3 parts. I think Edwards is lying through his teeth about the timing. He was all lawyerly and noncommittal about whether or not he hired her after launching his ‘blip’ with the burned out party girl. I think there is more sordidness that will probably ooze out over time. And Elizabeth apparently knew all about it while she shilled for him using their great family as a reason to elect the adulterer.

]]> By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577009 Phoenix Woman Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:57:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/11/the-stuff-they-wont-tell-you/#comment-1577009 <p>Glen or Glenda?</p> Glen or Glenda?

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