"What he wanted,” his biographer has said, “what he hoped to be . . . was America’s ‘best-loved’ President.” He was by nature, jovial, jolly even, an outgoing kind of a fellow. He liked going to baseball games and throwing out the ceremonial first pitch of the season. He even liked having the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts, celebrities and sports figures, children of all ages, shake the Presidential hand. The crowds that came to see him, to “share his presence and shake his hand were a reassurance to him, and he expanded in their presence.” And if eloquence came hard, “The Lord’s Prayer” slipped easily off his tongue. The problem was that he didn’t particularly like all the work that came with being President. Deep thought and concentration required an effort he’d rather forego, preferring instead the golf course. He was by nature a man of instinct; and he trusted his urges, and those who seconded him, supported him, held him up straight. Those were the fellows who did the heavy lifting—and made him look presidential.
He had, however, at least this one advantage over many: He knew he was over his head—way over his head—as President of the United States, and he regretted it. He sincerely regretted it.
And so he surrounded himself with familiar faces, the gang from back home, old pals rather than straight talkers. And, in the end, he presided over the most scandal-ridden administration in a century.
Sound familiar? George W. Bush, perhaps? But, no. Debacle after debacle, Our W seems impervious to regret. After all: What’s to regret when you have an angel on your shoulder? Or Dick Cheney whispering sweet nothings in your ear.
No, this was Harding. Warren G. Harding. Most of us, I suspect, grew up thinking that Harding was the worst president in our history. His Attorney General, the vulpine Daugherty, “brought with him the habits and attitudes of the Ohio political jungle. The vultures and jackals of the Ohio Gang, the politicians of the lower level moving on to Washington . . . flocked to him.” Behind his “impervious mask lurked an uncertain personality.” He was for a time—a long time—unique among Attorneys General of the United States “in that while he headed the Department of Justice he was subject to two congressional investigations.” Following his tenure in office, he was also twice indicted for malfeasance.
The Interior Secretary, the six-gun toting Fall, the villain of Teapot Dome, always considered himself innocent. Sure, he’d taken a loan, a hefty, six-figure loan, from the oilmen who got the contracts to plumb Teapot Dome. But, hell, he was their friend; and what was friendship for, after all? Besides, Fall was a man who believed that the business of government was business.
But then they all did, all of Harding’s closest advisors. They were conservative men, and that was the definition of conservative, as they knew it and lived it.
Eventually, of course, it all blew up. Teapot Dome took its toll. “Wuhrn,” his wife called him, died of a heart attack while on a presidential trip to Alaska—the first President to visit “The Last Frontier.” Fall went to jail. But for a single hold-out juror (bribed, it was said), Daugherty would have too.
The Republican Ascendancy lasted another few years, under Coolidge and Hoover; but then we know what happened: The Crash and the Depression that followed. And for a long time after that, the idea that the business of government was merely business took a back seat to the idea of the government as reformer and regulator, up-lifter and protector. The New Deal gave way to the Fair Deal, the New Frontier, and the Great Society. And, among the well-heeled dispossessed, with every passing year, the anger grew, visceral. Something, they murmured, must be done about this. Somehow, we must have our country back!
And so they plotted, and they schemed. If not through the front door, they told themselves, then through the back. No amount of cynicism would be too high a price in order to restore the old, conservative, pro-business Republican Hegemony.
Back to the Golden Days of Harding, Coolidge and Hoover!
But then they wanted more. And the more they got, the more they wanted.
And so the battle cry mounted: Back to the Gilded Age!
How close, how very close indeed, they got to their goal is the story that lies at the heart of Thomas Frank’s splendid new book, The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule.
I had been re-reading one of my favorite works of political biography, Francis Russell’s 1968 biography of the hapless Warren Harding, The Shadow of Blooming Grove, when The Wrecking Crew arrived at the house. I finished the two books side-by-side and would urge those with a historical bent to do the same.
For here we are—again—back in the Days of Yore. Thank you, George. Thank you, Dick. Thank you, Karl. And thank you too, Tom DeLay, Grover Norquist, Ralph Reed and Jack Abramoff, whose combined, inspired skullduggery form the underpinnings of all the rest.
“For a political faction to represent itself as a rebellion against a government for which it is itself responsible may strike you as a supremely cynical maneuver,” writes Frank. “If so, you are beginning to understand conservative Washington. Cynicism is of this movement’s essence.”
Given “the brute fact,” as Frank puts it, that “people like the liberal state,” with all its entitlements (such as Medicare and Social Security), its emphasis on clean food and clean air, safe working conditions and a minimum wage, conservatives had to go the route of the back door. Consider: When they actually confronted the liberal state head-on and shut down Washington, the result was a political and public relations disaster. Thanks to Newt Gingrich, the arch-villain Bill Clinton lived another day.
Gingrich’s failure was DeLay’s (and Abramoff’s and Norquist’s) learned lesson. If it were to work, the game would have to be played undercover. In the guise of bringing down “Big Government,” the new conservative bosses would instead “capture the thing” and run it for their own benefit and that of their economic masters.
But, first they would need to bring the bureaucracy to its knees, routing the professionals and replacing them, Monica Goodling-like, with their cadre of true-believers.
No longer was the goal to shrink the state or shut it down. It was to command it—for themselves—all the while denouncing the bloated bureaucracy run amuck and the “Stench of the Beltway.”
Today, we know where the stench lies, but thanks to Thomas Frank’s carefully drawn out tale, we can see clearly now that the politicization of the Department of Justice was but one manifestation of the broader attack. For the template, everywhere, was the same.
Grover Norquist, that apostle of freedom, put it this way: “First, we want to remove liberal personnel from the political process. Then we want to capture those positions of power and influence for conservatives. Stalin taught the importance of this principle. He was running the personnel department, while Trotsky was fighting the White Army. When push came to shove for control of the Soviet Union, Stalin won. His people were in place and Trotsky’s weren’t.”
Control the personnel department, and all else follows.
So that’s the lesson of Soviet history? I guess that, for Norquist and his ilk, it is too. No wonder I’ve come to think of the Bush White House as the old Soviet politburo writ anew.
That’s how far we’ve come from the American Democracy we once knew.
Thanks to the Wrecking Crew.



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Thomas, Welcome to the Lake.
John, Thank you for Hosting this Book Salon.
Thank you, Bev, and welcome, Thomas Frank to FDL Book Salon. We’re all delighted to have you join us.
Thomas, welcome to firedoglake. Looking forward to a great discussion. John thanks for hosting.
I think many of our readers would be interested to know just how far back and how deep the connection between Jack Abramoff, Ralph Reed, Grover Norquist and Karl Rove is. You do a marvelous job of deconstructing the ideology and the history here. Would you like to enlighten us some more on the topic?
Long live the ‘Gilded Age’…! The class war is over and we lost miserably…! De Ja Vu, all over again…
Thank you for hosting this Book Salon John and welcome!
Welcome also Thomas and thank you for writing this great book.
I am reading it right now but I’m struck by the nature of how many of these villains have skirted the edge of the law for so long. Is it because of this that they’ve felt impervious to the law and above it? Has it changed at all since Abramoff went to jail or do they just say, “ah well, too bad for Jack he got caught but they can’t catch me”?
Thanks for this great introduction to a terrific book, John, and thank you Thomas Frank for writing it.
I wonder if you have thought about the role business will have in a Democratic Administration. Having become so used to feeding at the trough provided and filled by the wrecking crew, do you think business can be made to play nice? Or will they expect continued largesse? And will they get it?
It’s been unbelievable to watch the dismantling of government over such a short period of time. They really hate the controls, rules, treaties, anything that would interfere with their expansion of power.
Hey, everybody. Good to be here. And that’s a fantastic introduction. The Warren Harding parallels are remarkable when you think about it. I myself was reaching more for the nineteenth century, my guide being the historian Matthew Josephson.
Jack Abramoff and Grover Norquist took control of the College Republicans in 1981 and drove that organization way, way to the right. Ralph Reed became Abramoff’s right hand man at that organization before striking out on his own and eventually becoming an officer of the Christian Coalition.
What really fascinates me about Abramoff’s early history was the liberal mixing of politics with money, or with business, depending on how you want to put it. He would use the phrase, “political entrepreneur,” and that’s what he was through his entire career.
I can’t recommend “Wrecking Crew” enough — it’s the best book about politics I’ve read since…”What’s the Matter With Kansas?”!
I have a couple of questions — 1) since you make an extremely convincing case that the GOP is simply an expression of American business, and at this particular point in time, it’s become a radicalized version of itself, does it worry you when you see Obama talking about “compromise”?
and 2) don’t you think the current Bush/Cheney/Norquist GOP has to lose another 4-5 straight elections before that’s possible?
Thanks much.
They don’t like being told no. Even though Congress has not gotten any of the creeps thrown in yet, oversight is starting to expose the dirty secrets and the hidden costs of the Gilded policies.
And thank you, Thomas–and FDL gang–for the kind words. Josephson was a great favorite mine as well.
John Dean has famously said that the Bush II scandals, taken together, are “worse than Watergate.” For me, they’re worse than Watergate, Teapot Dome, the Whiskey Ring and Credit Mobilier all put together.
Where do you think they fall, in the great scheme of things, Thomas? And what’s the worst aspect of it all? Or is there a single “Worst”?
Good question about the role business will have in a Democratic administration.
The problem is not so much having people from business come to Washington and run the government–after all, that’s where a lot of the talent happens to be–it’s with importing the logic of business into government. “Government should be market based,” George W. Bush says, and that’s what’s given us disaster after disaster, in New Orleans, in Iraq, in Washington. When government answers to the market, it answers to money. Not to us.
It annoys me when Obama talks so glowingly about markets, as he sometimes does, but he is also one of the few politicians in Washington who really understands the damage that has been done by across-the-board outsourcing of government operations.
I would love to see Grover investigated and thrown in the deepest, darkest hole we can find.
What a great picture you have given us. Did anything ever “fascinate” you about Ralph Reed? At first, he looked like such a choir boy, and a really slimey picture has emerged. Was that always the “real” Reed?
I think Gale Norton was one of worst things ever to happen to the Department of Interior. Griles got thrown in but she hasn’t yet. We need a DOJ that does its job.
As I read your book, I was struck again and again by the virtual absence of any appeal by conservatives to the founding documents of the US. As you tell their story, they appeal again and again to the glories of the market, the evils of (govt) control, and so on. When it comes to the constitution, the bill of rights, and the declaration of independence, however, all we hear is *crickets*.
Great book, Thomas!
Teddy’s question really is excellent. And it’s only fair to point out, as Thomas Frank does in his book, that Norquist believed that the template for his (and DeLay’s and Abramoff’s) K Street Project was to be found in the earlier work by the former top House Democrat Tony Coelho.
Firepups, can someone diect Mr. Frank to Hugh’s list of Bush scandals? It is a very, very long list.
It’s hard to tell what the worst scandal in history is, although the Bush Administration, with everything thrown together, would certainly be up there with Harding and Grant.
What intrigues me about the history of corruption in the nineteenth century was the way it developed. It started as simple “spoils”: politicos using the state to line their pockets. It gradually became more complex as the business community basically merged with the Republican Party. By 1896 this operation was virtually complete, and corruption was institutionalized. McKinley’s campaign manager, Mark Hanna, was able to go from tycoon to tycoon in New York and simply tax them on behalf of the campaign–make them give a certain percentage of their annual profits to keep the game rolling.
They were motivated in that year by a certain Nebraskan named William Jennings Bryan, whom they regarded as a radical in the Robespierre mold.
As a pastor who lives in the KC area and someone who loved “What’s the Matter With Kansas”, I kept waiting for some discussion in this book of the ties between the big business conservatives and the religious conservatives, but you never got into that. In “The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule,” your use of “conservatives seems to be limited to the CorporateCons.
To me, this is a key link that needs to be laid out to understand how conservatives rule. Until the CorporateCons got together with the TheoCons, neither had sufficient power and clout to make things change in the directions they wanted.
Your thoughts?
The linkage in your book of the GOPs’ attempts to destroy the ICC, the OEO, FEMA and Social Security makes very clear to any reader that the social compact looks very different to the GOP. Do you think their social darwinism and “buyer beware” attitudes have been completely discredited by Bush, or will we see more efforts to define Bush as an apostate?
The idea that Bush, and the Bushies, simply did not go far enough is truly abhorrent, and very scary. I wonder what plans Monica Goodling, Brad Schlozman, and Lurita Doan have for the President they might “serve” in the 2020s.
You make passing reference to the Duke Cunningham scandal in the book. I don’t think anyone’s focused enough on the underlying saga, not just Brent Wilkes, but the fact that the “War on Terror” provided ample cover (especially given the earmarking system) for what has probably been a stupendous raid on the Treasury. Cunningham was at best a second-tier Congressman. My own guess is that there was a cabal centered in Boss DeLay’s House that included the really senior Republicans on Defense Appropriations (See; Lewis, Jerry); Defense (See: Hunter, Duncan; and Weldon, Curt); and Intel (See: Goss, Porter).
Black box jobs to the tune of billions. All the secrecy you could ask for. Earmarks. GWOT. Etc. etc. etc.
Thomas Frank – I’m sympathetic to your views, but would you like to address the fairly detailed analysis of your book in the New Yorker?
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/…..rge_lemann
Ralph Reed never caught my imagination, really. Norquist did, because he’s unarguably a brilliant political player.
Abramoff did, because of the very, very strange echoes between things he said and did and the language of espionage.
And Howard Phillips also did, because he’s another brilliant player. His idea, “Defund the Left,” is really the north star to much of what they’ve done to us.
And also I am fascinated by the brazenness of it all. Given where Americans are and always have been on the baseline economic issues, these people shouldn’t be able to win an election anywhere. Instead they’ve won election after election–often by the skin of their teeth–and then proceeded to put their “permanent” changes into effect.
Reading the book has brought back some bad memories for me. I remember when the Conservatives had their pseudo “Woodstock” in South Africa and such with Savimbi. I was not aware though that Abramoff and company were such major players even with crap like that.
Any suggestions on how we can make sure that folks get reminded of how these clowns have always operated?
and..
Teddy, I think it was, made a really good point about the Goodlings and the future. We know from her e-mails that Monica thought of the legion of immigration judges and immigration appeals board judges that she was “turning pro” as the Bush Administration’s “Farm System.”
Mr. Frank, thank you for being here. My question is “is it too late to stop this and what can we do?”
Yes, and so we all should. And it’s not just Thomas Frank’s light, I might add.
In Boss Tom’s House it was the rare Republican who ever said, “Boo” to the Boss. They all marched in lock step. That’s one of the fascinating things for me about those years: That Bush and DeLay, especially, had such small margins to work with. Yet it was all Landslide Lyndon! Much of it thanks to a bunch of gutless Republicans–many of whom knew better but didn’t dare cross Boss Tom–in the House.
Thank you. I also wonder about the elections. Are there ones you have particularly thought were stolen? Do you think we can have confidence in the upcoming Pres. outcome?
Hugh’s List of Bush Scandals
We used to debate “The Age of Reform” in graduate school. Many aspects of it have been debunked. This is one of them. The only people who still make such an argument about intellectuals as a class in decline (and hence clamoring for reform) are the neoconservatives–which makes it awfully difficult for them to explain their own intellectual selves.
The mugwump thing is patently ridiculous. Anyone who’s read my work knows I identify with the labor movement, not with the millionaire wing of the Democratic party. The argument in “Kansas” was that the Dems had to get back to their working-class roots, that they have gone too far down the old Mugwump trail.
I feel that we lost a great populist voice to shame and foolishness yesterday, and I wonder who you see picking up the baton on behalf of the working class in the Democratic party?
Should be clear too just from reading this book and the comments on Bill Clinton. For what it’s worth: I grew up in the shadow of the late Senator Ralph Yarborough, the patron saint of Texas liberals. “Red Ralph” was a country cousin, but a great man too. I don’t think he would particularly have approved of the Clintons. NAFTA and “welfare reform” were definitely not where he was coming from.
The question is, “What can we do?”
A great deal of what the cons have done is going to be difficult to reverse. I’m thinking in particular here of the massive outsourcing of federal work.
One place to start, and I’m recommending this every chance I get, is for president Obama (should he be elected) to appoint, on day one of his administration, an ultra-blue-ribbon commission to investigate the entire history of outsourcing and privatizing. Has it saved us money as was promised way back in the Reagan days? Has it done the job well? Are the contractors accountable to the public? Or has the whole thing been a gold-plated botch?
Brilliant!
As someone who worked in an Air Force accounting office when on active duty in the late 70s/early 80s and then worked for Defense Logistics Agency as well as for various DoD contractors, I’m laying six to five on gold-plated botch myself…
There are plenty of other great advocates for working America in Congress and around the country. I’m thinking in particular of Sen. Sherrod Brown. Maybe Jim Webb. I like him because of a particular op-ed he wrote for the Wall Street Journal right after the 2006 election. It was right down my alley. (I could probably link to it if I knew how to do anything with a computer other than type.)
This is slightly off-point, but who would you most like for Obama to choose as his VP? And what kind of cabinet would you envision?
My own choice would be Jack Reed of Rhode Island. I like him for some of the reasons you like Sherry Brown and Jim Webb.
I say we’re entitled to a refund, or financial reparations, since we’ve been ripped off by these guys. Would your Blue Ribbon Panel have recovering our monies as a priority?
The ones who want the least government seem to have gotten the most money from the our government. And that’s been their intent.
Webb in the WSJ
Been reading the book and loving it, Thomas. It always gives me pause to think that these people are still driven by hatred of the New Deal, something that few of them were alive to see and which most rational people think was unquestionably good for America.
Thanks for your intro too, John. Yes, they have gone undercover. Which makes them so damn hard to get a grip on.
Hmmm…. I was just thinkng about a “to do” list for Obama in the form of a petition. Seems like this should be at the top. Thank you. :)
If we are going to look at the problems of outsourcing, then it seems the inability to fire or discipline civil servants certainly needs to be addressed since that is one of the motivations for using contractors – for example it has come up in some of the intelligence outsourcing (& torture) – (possibly as high as 70%) ‘we want people we can fire if they screw up or don’t deliver the goods.’
Also I can certainly relate the at least one experience of working in government as a contractor and looking around to find that the actual employees were doing very little work – they had gotten to the point where they just brought in a contractor to do it (lazy?).
Too true, Elliott. This was one of the things that shocked me about Washington after I moved there. It’s a very wealthy city (or, more properly, metro area) these days. Arguably the wealthiest in the nation. If you chart its rise to riches historically, you find that Washington has done best under the administrations of Reagan and our current Bush–who claim to hate Washington and all its works.
Another shocker was seeing the way these people live. After the decades of complaints about government profligacy, excessive food stamps, welfare cadillacs, etc., to see up close these contractor/lobbyist millionaires.
Sometimes I wonder if the reality–the lobbyists and contractors living like Louis XIV–will ever trump the right-wing myth, the old story about lazy government workers and bureaucracies that never get anything done.
I’ve also gotta say that your characterization of Michelle Malkin was spot-on:
Thanks for that.
Hi, Jane. One of the things I meant to take more careful note of in the intro was this hatred towards the New Deal. Over the past couple of years, I’ve become a careful reader of the Wall Street Journal editorial pages–rather like a Kremlinologist back in the old days. You gotta know what they’re thinking and what kind of bullshit they’re putting out if you’re to do much of anything to counter them. Anyhow, a recurring theme in those pages–exemplified by my old Yale friend, Amity Shlaes, in particular–is the revisionist history of the Depression. Why Franklin made it all sooooo much worse! It’s mind-blowing how they can stand facts upside down.
And as someone who worked for both the government directly AND as a contractor, I can assure you that the non-workers exist (and thrive) on both sides of that fence.
The contractors just tended to get paid more is all. If the person was a cipher and coasting, they could BS their way along either way.
a pundit with the appearance of a Bratz doll but with the soul of Chucky.
Certainly true. I am just relating a particular experience I saw – no doubt after 9/11 everyone at TSA, FBI etc were working ridiculous hours.
Folks: It is, alas, time for me to go. I have a book review to finish, a newspaper column to write, and a speech to work on for an event in Seattle on Monday. Maybe some of you live there and can come to it. My publisher has got me traveling all over the country for the next month or so, you can find out exactly where and when by going to http://www.tcfrank.com. I hope to meet some of you in person.
Surprisingly enough, there were federal employees who worked hard even before 9/11, and at organizations other than the FBI and TSA.
My favorite moment from the Boss Tom saga was when, after years of praising the evil that DeLay had done, the WSJ edit board announced that they could smell “The Stench of the Beltway” in his demise and fall from glory.
According to the WSJ, it wasn’t Tom who had created the stench. No, it was the Beltway. And it was the Beltway that had seduced the former Straight Arrow from Sugarland and had precipitated his fall. How very rich!
This is a perfect example of the utter cynicism that Thomas Frank refers to so accurately in the book.
Thank you again, Thomas, for this incredibly smart book and for having been our guest tonight. FDL Pups, I’ll hold the fort for a bit longer for those of you wanting to continue the conversation.
Thomas, thank you for stopping by the Lake and spending the afternoon with us.
John, thank you for continuing the discussion with us.
Ya neglected the most devious, invidious, and, yet, under-reported fiasco… The repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, which set the stage for the financial mess we’re in…!
So very true. Right you are!
John: One could say that Ol’ Tom brought his own stench to an already stinkin’ beltway, IMO. So, he would have just enhanced what was already there. ;)
Thomas: Thanks for being here today, Thomas. Good luck with your tour.
This is such an important book with facts for the fight. Thank you for the guest, the analysis, and the introduction. So good.
It’s a very important book. As someone who has written a lot about Abramoff, I still learned a helluva lot. Nobody has covered the “formative years” of Casino Jack like Frank, or has done such a good job of deconstructing the juncture of ideology and profit that is Abramoff, that is Norquist, that is Reed.
I’ll second what Bev says
And thank you Bev, too
Thank you….convey our appreciation. Bev
this entire salon and conversation was nothing short of fascinating.
Another book I need to get and read.
Thank you, all!
I thought so, too, I was busy earlier and came around to it late and got so much out of the discussion. One of the better ones, to be sure.
I’m wondering what was done to “fix” government after Teapot Dome and if there were holdover flaws that didn’t get fixed and how we can “fix” it this time. I wish I wasn’t such a slow typist.
John, where do you think the first movements to identify and punish the corruption will come from? President, Congress, or the people?
As someone who has read a lot about this crew, I have to echo your comment. There’s a tremendous amount of new information in this book, and I say that as one who approached it skeptically, with the attitude that this one yet another book covering the same ground.
I had to slow down to read it, because there is lots of new, albeit disgusting, material in this book.
Not much, Audrey. The Republican Ascendancy still had years to go. It took the Crash and the Depression to bring it down. About the best I can say is that the press wasn’t supine back then, and Senator Tom Walsh (Democrat of Montana) carried out a serious investigation in public hearings.
Speaking of: For those of you wanting to take a trip down Memory Lane or just find some sort of reassurance, do buy or check out the wonderful PBS Frontline, “Watergate Plus 30.” You won’t be disappointed. Sam Ervin and the Senate “Watergate Committee” more than lived up to my memories. These were folks who, for the most part, rose above their own level and achieved, at least for a time, greatness. And thank god for them.
Where are such today?
You are right, Teddy. It’s not a fast read. And I mean that as a good thing. You need to absorb it. And it takes time. It’s well worth the effort.
1,729 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen JohnAnderson and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Thanx for the review…I’m gunna get Frank’s book jest fer the details of the history we all know or have lived but I wonder why, with all the still warm bodies and still bleeding experience we have had with this last wave of oligarchic rule, we don’t make the final connection and start callin’ this experience and the forces that have brought it to us for what they are: FASCISM. It’s here, it’s been here and it won’t be goin’ anywhere unless we excise it and the families that profit from it from our history once and for all. And this fascism isn’t imported, it isn’t learned from another culture’s experience, it’s our very own, gestated and born of that unholy alliance between the Southern slavocracy and the Northern banks…we have an unfinished civil war to complete and the first action in this last battle is to start recognizing our history and callin a spade a shovel. We are a fascist state at this moment and we won’t become UNfascist jest by votin’ for another political party…
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, AND REMEMBER THAT THERE IS NO COMPRIOMISING WITH FASCISM!!
How right…with names that live, Baker, Jordan, et al; they took that job so seriously.
I’ll have to catch up with comments later, but was glad to see that an audio version is available. I found your recent article in Harper’s quite eye-opening; the links between Abramoff and South Africa were quite enlightening. I have your book on my ‘read before November’ list. However, the audio version will help me fit it in to my schedule.
“Political entreprenurialism” has certainly paid some unforeseen dividends, and I hope it results in jail time for the worst offenders. It certainly provided a ‘free market’ ideology for a lot of socially destructive behavior. Thanks for figuring out how to help the rest of us make more sense of it all. It has certainly impacted our lives (and our children’s).
Bev, Jane, and all the rest of you Firepup Freedom Fighters,
Old Citizen John is going to put “30″ to this conversation.
Time to stoke up the grill, put those ears of corn and that chicken on the grill. Have a glass or two of nice chilled wine too.
Keep the faith, folks. And thanks again for joining me and our guest Thomas Frank in what proved a very enlightening conversation.
You’re the best, Firepups!
Night, Team. John
John, Thank you very much for stopping by the Lake and Hosting the Book Salon today.
Everyone – The Wrecking Crew is a great book, if you haven’t bought one yet, there is a link above.
Tom, thanks again.
Thanks all.
Thanks, John, for a great discussion today!
Thanks for the reply to my query, John. Have a great evening and weekend. Thanks so much for being here today.
Mahalo, John! And, Frank! *g*
Thanks….and if you are watching the news, picture of our Pres. looks like he needs a glass with the umbrella in it.
Oh and Thank YOU, RevBev. :)
Ian’s upstairs
Another aspect to review regarding the privateering of our government is how many of the life-affirming functions have been wrecked and what has their cost been in terms of human lives.
The progressive moral position as defined by Dr. George Lakoff is to allow only the non-life affirming government functions to be open to privatization if and when it makes sense to do so.
- Tom
Sorry to have missed this Book Salon. This book is on my list now, yet another dissection of the Shock Doctrinaires who’ve taken over our government.
The problem we also need to deal with as we prepare a list for the next president is that this challenge is not limited to our federal government. The wrecking crew is steadily undermining and dismantling state government; Michigan, for example, was bled dry of its rainy day funds by a corporatist in the guise of a small government Republican, then assaulted frequently by Norquist’s minions so that it never collected its wits about it to solve the problems it faces. They’ve done so much damage that a progressive has little chance of winning the governor’s office in 2010.
Probably too late to the party, but I wanted to post that I was in So. China in April. I was finishing the book “What’s Wrong with Kansas?’ One of the young girls that works for my company was curious about what I was reading…she was a English major and had a polisci interest in college. I gave her the book. I told her that she’d find most of the politics impossible to understand…but the key issue of the book is how people vote against their best interests, She nodded and said, “I think I understand that, I often wonder why so many people join the Communist Party here.”
Nicholas Lemann’s analysis of Thomas Frank’s The Wrecking Crew is a hit piece. The first clue is that he describes it as one of those books about politics that he finds “hard to take altogether seriously”. His review goes down hill from there.
Mr. Lemann trots out a list of emotive epithets for Mr. Frank — at one point he coyly says it would be “tempting” to call him a neo-Marxist, thereby calling him one, a ploy reminiscent of the MSM at one point asking in unison whether the same was true of Mr. Obama — that are inherently pejorative rather than analytical. He adheres to other old MSM habits, too, especially in his fondness for using multiple false equivalencies, like equating Obama’s and McCain’s reliance on lobbyists.
Mr. Lemann attempts to disguises his rant by placing Mr. Frank’s book within a frame — normally a good technique for a thorough review, but not here — that he likes much better: a hundred year-old description of government by Arthur Bentley, The Process of Government. A work best summarized by a revised form of the old saw, “all politics is not local, it is by and for groups”.
What Mr. Lemann is really doing is using Frank to resurrect Bentley, to whom he devotes most of his review, and damning Frank with faint praise for not following Bentley’s framework or agreeing with his conclusions.
When Bentley published his book, Teddy Roosevelt was still busting trusts, Standard Oil was still ONE global company, Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle was new and explosive, the world hadn’t had its first World War yet, Republicans believed in compromise, reform and good government, and Southern Democrats dressed in bedsheets and hanged uppity boys who didn’t know their place.
Mr. Frank is describing the effects of the excesses of today’s Republicans and their version of capitalism. He puts that criticism within its own frame, not the one Mr. Lemann a little too archly and omnisciently tries to shoehorn his work into.
Sounds like Mr. Lemann should write his own book. How sorry.