“Enquiring minds, as it were.” Jane, they learn a hard lesson with the anthrax so McCain’s affairs are untouchable. Elizabeth’s note is touching and I guess since he is not running for president it it is time to move on. I’m still deeply disappointed though and I think that’s okay.

Wow, I’m getting whip-lash…! ;-)

A corollary of IOKIYAR is

Democratic humping bad

Republican humping good.

Hugh, that’s not fair, imo, unless your angst is directed to the MSM which no longer exists.

Well trim your eyebrows. /s

Bless Elizabeth’s heart. She is one class act.

http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..full.story

A good read

Hey John did a good job in the debates. He dropped out knowing he was toast. I have no complaimt except he should have come out with it them (January 2008.
Glad they are fighting back. We have never asked for a saint for prez JFK has his affairs as have others. The agenda is the crux of the matter. What we are willing to settle for.
End War and that spending
Universal Health Care
Alternative renewable energy policy
Put America back to work building energy infrastructure and housing people can afford.

My angst with the media has to do with them ignoring McCain’s mind not him pen*s. I just read where his acceptance speech was to be 21 minutes and I am impressed that he can do that.

At least John Edwards just came out and admitted it. How many Republicans have been caught with hookers, caught in men’s rooms, exposed in the New York Times and still deny they did what everybody knows they did?

The corporate media is doing everything in it’s power to help McCain pull the upset (well to at least get close enough they can steal yet another election).

And I’m not sure they won’t manage to do it.

But don’t let this distract us from our agenda. More proggressives in Congress. Go Blue America.

I can live with Elizabeth Edwards response to all of this. What I can’t live with is Johnny McTeleprompter cheating on his first wife with his second wife and then cheating on his 2nd wife with a lobbyist, you know, lobbyists who he says aren’t connected to him at all. Asshole.

Completely OT, but the opening ceremonies of the Olympics are quite spectacular, and unlike any others that I’ve ever seen.

Asshole.

IUIYAR (It’s Unavoidable If You’re a Republican)

I’m told we’re going to have a quick server shutdown and reboot, should take 5 min.

See you on the flip.

Dear Elizabeth:

I have always admired and respected you, and I wish you the best. But there’s something that you really need to know: Your husband is a jackass. There are helicopters over your house and reporters in your driveway right now specifically BECAUSE your husband is a jackass. If you want to get rid of the helicopters and reporters, you should ship your jackass husband off to a hotel for a couple of days, and see if the helicopters and the reporters follow him. There’s a good chance that that would earn you a little peace. And frankly, if your husband wasn’t such a jackass, he would have already done this for you without being asked. Your privacy is important to us, but the fact of the matter is that your jackass husband lied repeatedly to all of us, and he lost the right to HIS privacy when it became known that he was such a jackass. I don’t necessarily think you should divorce him, but I’d strongly suggest that you get him out of the house for a little while, at least until the paternity test results come back. Because if you don’t, you can’t really expect to have any privacy.

–Frank

Dear Elizabeth:

I have always admired and respected you, and I wish you the best. But there’s something that you really need to know: Your husband is a jackass. There are helicopters over your house and reporters in your driveway right now specifically BECAUSE your husband is a jackass. If you want to get rid of the helicopters and reporters, you should ship your jackass husband off to a hotel for a couple of days, and see if the helicopters and the reporters follow him. There’s a good chance that that would earn you a little peace. And frankly, if your husband wasn’t such a jackass, he would have already done this for you without being asked. Your privacy is important to us, but the fact of the matter is that your jackass husband lied repeatedly to all of us, and he lost the right to HIS privacy when it became known that he was such a jackass. I don’t necessarily think you should divorce him, but I’d strongly suggest that you get him out of the house for a little while, at least until the paternity test results come back. Because if you don’t, you can’t really expect to have any privacy.

–Frank

and we’re back!

For $40 billion and a totalitarian state, I wouldn’t expect anything less than a completely OTT spectacle.

Were we well served

I still think Edwards would have been a good President. The GOP always likes to throw stones when like Newt or McCain they live in glass houses.
I think John’s adultery is an issue for his family.
Lets see if the MSM does go after McCain now.

Actually, the most amazing things I’ve seen have all been done with people. Lots and lots and lots of people, and incredible choreography.

Lets see if the MSM does go after McCain now.
Surely you jest

Sorry, bigbrother,

I have to add: stopping torture as the law, policy and practice of the United States and a full investigation and accounting of those who put it in place, charges and trials for those recommended after invesigation, prompt trials for those detainees held without trial and safe havens for those found not guilty, a full of all those held in US custody and all those renditioned since January 21, 2001, and the President re-signing the World Court Treaty.

Yes, it’s a large order, but it’s the right thing to do.

For Dan,
Heather

Democratic humping bad

Republican humping good.

…as long as the rethugs are of opposite gender…

Yep:)

It is amazing. I did not go to the opening ceremonies in Atlanta but did see lots of different events and this is amazing.

…as long as the rethugs are of opposite same gender…

For the sake of humanity…! ;-)

Chinese do the lots of people thing well. It’s their national raison d’etre. And the choreography & music I find pretty schmaltzy. But them, I think NYC ballet has good choreography which is exactly the opposite to the Chinese thing. There’s no accounting for taste.

Also, you’re comparing apples and oranges if you compare this to ballet.

the real harm that the present voyeurism does

Says it all. All class all the time.

Sen. Vitter hasn’t suffered too much for hanging with the prostitutes. The White House was happy to have Mr. Gannon about.

Jane.

YGM—memories of a much better Aug. 8th.

You chose the word choreography, not me. Of course it’s apples & oranges. Only in this case, I don’t like both, only one of the choices.

I second THAT, SD.

One must always remember — IOKIYAR.

Choreography does not apply merely to classical ballet.

OT Broder is on Washington week – according to McCain The reason that the campaign has gotten nasty is that Obama hasn’t done any townhalls with him

THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT

bom dia pups

no one is perfect. man is fallible, to think otherwise is folly

Wow, the last scene was pretty impressive. The last conversation reminded me of a Judging Amy where she comments on the chocolate cake and she is corrected because it is mousse. Sometimes, it does not matter.

Wecome back, wobbly.

Great to ’see’ you again!

hey DW, glad to be back but the weeks of political ignorance was bliss

So you’re a Craig stallwart? ;)

Please tell me you’re joking…

I’m sure!

I understand that, but if you’re going to use the word choreography it implies some sort of tasteful artistic contribution rather than just moving gigantic numbers of human cogs around a stadium.

BTW, if you’re wondering why I’m paining myself to watch it, I consider it cocktail party preparation homework.

I’ll stop spoiling your fun now.

How on earth are they doing that globe thing?!

That is what Broder said

Well, at one point in my life as much younger one I was involved in an extremely minor endeavor of “moving human cogs around,” so I guess maybe I can appreciate how extraordinarily difficult it is to pull off. Great art it ain’t, but, to me at least, it’s fun to watch.

[Bangs head on desk. Repeatedly.]

All day you could read about the opening ceremony being spectacular and it certainly is. It’s a nice diversion.

Meanwhile somewhere in Iraq and Afghanistan someone’s child is getting blown to smithereens and we’re all getting bent over here in the U.S.

Marketing policy will help!

Not disputing it’s difficult, but it’s a lot easier in a totalitarian state than in a messy democracy. And again, if you’d had $40 billion, you probably could have had an easier time moving them there cogs around.

For an Olympic event you might enjoy more check upstairs. It’s awful…funny, but awful…

Oh, and the difficulty moving the cogs around has nothing to do with money. It has to do with each individual cog remembering perfectly where it’s supposed to be and what it’s supposed to do, and not sneezing or picking it’s nose or scratching its crotch!

LMAO!

To Marion (”Completely OT, but the opening ceremonies of the Olympics are quite spectacular, and unlike any others that I’ve ever seen”).

This is the FIRST rime in my life I haven’t watched the opening ceremonies of the olympics. With slaves, you can get quite a good show–but that is all it is. I support the athletes, but I pity them. So far away and so alone.

May I remind you that the original post was about Edwards? Oh well, who cares, really?

Gees Elizabeth you knew about the affair, and you and your husband entered the public world of running for president knowing this, where like it or not, everything is public. This is no surprise.

You made your choice, stood behind John while he flat out lied about it all while posing for family photos during the campaign, and risked handing the country over to Republicans for another 4 years.

If you didn’t want it to be public, you should’ve sat the race out.

i am jumping comments-i know this is long but i need feedback on this one….-just got back into town, i usually read them before i comment, but i am blown away….

opening ceremonies have no sound on my tv–but before the sound blew out- costas made an offensive comment and i wrote a letter–here it is, at the end….and THEN i received a series (7)of offensive republican letters/commentaries from a friend-accidentally hit’reply all’on my comments back..heh, ‘accidentally’, he finally pissed me off enough that i hit ‘reply all’..yep, i did..i know who most of the ‘reply all’ people are in his life, but not theie leanings..from jane fonda personnaly dissin’ a tortured pow repeatedly, to a dog pissing on a obama sign…classy, no?..gotback a letter from one to ‘watch it’…but his one took me by surprise.

here’s one–
“
Dayna,

Watch it! You just sent that to a bunch of folks that think- rightly so, that Obama is a traitorous puke. Check his record. He scares the bejeesus out of me. “

now, understand, this is someone who lived in alaska for twenty years, bethel, taught special -ed and brought me smoked salmon that she caught herself, for years. we played dungeons and dragons every sunday night when she moved back, that game had been running since 1974,along with the person who sent the crap repug stuff, he’s in florida now, my best friend and i went down there to help him with his house—he’s color-blind……

so, i guess i am saying i am finallly at a loss for words..

when i got this–
Thank you. I love you, too, even if your politics scare the piss out of me
:-)

A former democrat,
L——-

wtf? I WROTE A NICE LETTER back. her husband has cancer, and we love her.
wish my computer was faster so i could retrieve youtubes for these–my best friend john gave me his old ipod, am playing it on my bose speakers right now-perfect songs for what i am saying, thank god, i’m not insane.someone else thought it, too.
don mclean is playing-on the amazon

now cat stevens-on the road to get there

please excuse the length, rare that i am so perplexed…..so many things of fodder at once. i sometimes reel back at things said here, the intensity of them, but, after tonight, i have a ‘divffent’ view, and maybe have to find another way to do something about it and i willl search youtube to see if the songs are on there.hope this made sense.and know that my browser won’t let me type fast.

ok, personal letter-this is what i wrote to costa after his offensive comment–don’t hate me for it–i can’t help what i was born into or where i came from..all i can help is what i do with it……..same as you.

=======to nbc sports–where i do have a contact, but preferred to see what the ‘regular’ people do with it——–

I know your website stated that you get numerous emails, but, I sure hope someone writes me back. I am going to be expecting an answer back.

Opening Ceremonies-right at the beginning.

While giving commentary about a team entering the tarmac, sorry, don’t remember the team because I was so taken aback by the comment, Bob Costas made a comment that I found offensive.

As the team entered, he mentioned that in their country they made a hundred or so dollars a day, and how proud they must be to view their ‘exploits’.

Excuse me, EXPLOITS?

So, was this in a meeting, that they should be exploited? Well, they are, and you know they are, but this was so prevalent in his mind that it was used as a descriptor? How about ‘accomplishments’? Where did he find this word to express what an Olympic athlete does?
I completely understand that commentary is just that, commentary, off the lips, out into the world, in the moment. But Bob Costas isn’t exactly new at this game.

Here is the part that I didn’t want to write, but am going to in order for you to understand why I am so offended by what he said. And I find it hard to believe he said it, of all people, I couldn’t believe it.

I was, was is the operative word, married to someone who trained with an Olympic coach from the age of six. He has a list of records and titles, among them being World Champion at the age of nine. He missed the Olympics by a point or two, cuz he had been out all night with David Lee Roth, his ‘oh so kind’ teammates encouraged it, of course they did……….

He grew up in that world. I met, through him, and knew, one Olympian and met another. Heard stories and phone conversations with countless others. They give up having a normal life, and even after their Olympic careers never have a normal life. They are already exploited, and live on their accomplishments, but the accomplishments they make to overcome being Olympians and things they overcome to meld back into society are never mentioned.

I was surprised and offended because I thought that Bob Costas understood the sacrifices involved in being and elite athlete, even if he just watched the ’special pieces’ about the athletes you would come away with and idea of what it takes to be separated from a normal day to day world to focus on achieving that level of accomplishment at anything.

Due to the access I had, I am torn about the Olympics. One side of me thinks the athletics machine should be shut down, another sees the importance of letting people live vicariously through others-to see their hard work bring a reward, and there should be a standard of excellence that younger athletes strive to attain.

But calling it ‘exploits’? I can’t see how I would ever use that word for it.

These athletes are entered into a world before they even have a chance to decide whether they like it or not. Complete dedication, it’s just what they do, it’s all they know…They are already exploited way before they ever become Olympic athletes….How about not exploiting them once they get there?

In your coverage, are you going to do a piece on Jennifer Chandler? Are you going to mention that Jennifer Chandler was the youngest Olympian at her time? Is she the youngest diver ever ? What she did was incredible, I remember seeing it, and hearing her describe what it is like is riveting, I heard it over wine on her deck…..You should, she is an interesting person, a talented painter/artist, and makes her living making press releases for people like the illiterate Bo Jackson, and others, she is now in the Alabama Hall of Fame…….and Greg Louganis? Are you going to shove him aside again? Why? He is another who was able to pick up the pieces and make a life for himself. They are a few of the people who put a boost into the anaemic Olympic coverage when it was needed.

And I still am waiting for a piece about Ron O’Brien, the longest running coach in any Olympic sport, don’t you think it’s about time to give him his due?

His son Tim was an Olympic coach, too, after him. I’m not in the know enough to know if he is the coach this year. And Randy was a coach too, an Olympian who became a coach.

Exploits? What an Entertainment Tonight kind of word… Trashy. And dismissive. Demeaning.
Where did that word come from? I would like an answer.

Sincerely,
Dayna
Athens, Ohio

here is the letter to nbc about bob costas.

Please, in the future, when you have a comment of this length, break it up into smaller posts – very hard on the servers like this.
Thanks.

I skimmed this post so what I’m going to write might be OT but I don’t think so. I think it time for Larry Flint to offer a one million reward for any information revealing infidelity among the rich and famous or at least politicians. It is a fact that men cannot resist that which is available. Why do we let something like this make us crazy? Once again the French marvel at our stupidty.