The only time we hear about Afghanistan is when articles are written about how awful it is going.
And the trend continues:
June was the second deadliest month for the military in Afghanistan since the war began, with 23 American deaths from hostilities, compared with 22 in Iraq. July was less deadly, with 20 deaths, compared with six in Iraq. On July 22, nearly seven years after the conflict began on Oct. 7, 2001, the United States lost its 500th soldier in the Afghanistan war.
Of course, Afghanistan is a much different war with more international cooperation and far fewer American troops. The population and population density are also substantially less than Iraq. Though we have managed to once again give a people we’ve occupied a massively corrupt government. But then again, Freedom isn’t Free!
The tactical situation in Afghanistan is also demonstrably worse than Iraq, even if not the strategic disaster the latter most definitely is by the invasion’s mere occurrence. As the Bush Administration ignored the country in favor of the foolish Iraqi invasion and occupation, the situation on the ground has at the best of times stalemated and now has developed into a losing hand for the allies:
Late last month, the military released data showing that insurgent activity had soared, with attacks in eastern border regions up nearly 40 percent from last year.
“Make no mistake, NATO is not winning in Afghanistan,” the Atlantic Council of the United States, a nongovernmental organization dedicated to fostering ties between North America and Europe, warned in a report in January. “Unless this reality is understood and action is taken promptly, the future of Afghanistan is bleak.”
And as the article points out that is from the Pentagon itself…
The report was actually one of the more positive assessments among a deluge of critical reports on the war’s progress issued this year by international study groups.
There is definitely a danger lurking in Afghanistan and no easy solution — and greater engagement is no guarantee — but one thing is certain, as in all things, Bush and his fixation on Iraq has certainly managed to make Afghanistan worse.
(photo of flight near Bagram Airfield soldiersmediacenter)



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Obama talks like he will, if elected, reduce US military engagement in Iraq and increase it in Afghanistan—and make something happen in Pakistan. There’s a rough road ahead, if Obama is elected or if he isn’t. Scary as some of Obama’s remarks are, I’ll have to vote for him; he’d better have some really wise advisors, though.
How can a “national security president” unsecure so much?
Hey Yonodler, you’re right. It is a rough road ahead and one of many nig messes. And if Obama is elected, he will be held responsible to start fixing the mess. That’ll be a refreshing change in itself.
But don’t underestimate the power of intelligent people who aren’t blinded by ideology.
How can a “national security president” unsecure so much?
One would think that most Americans would see things exactly this way. Or understand that there are two ways, and two ways only, to win a war. (hint; killing everyone isn’t one of them)
The other Presidential candidate’s recent comment that “I know how to win wars and that is by winning” should scare Americans more than anything he has ever said. He. Is. Stupid.
Wars are won by either removing your enemy’s ability to fight or his will to fight. The former is accomplished through resource denial and infrastructure destruction and the latter by beating him down to the point of demoralization. The particulars of methodology are myriad and would require far to much space for this forum. Suffice to say we are accomplishing neither in Afghanistan.
Just saying. Good morning Attaturk and pups. Thanks for the post Attaurk.
Mr.Cbl
Bush defined his role as a War President early on.
First by declaring a “War on Terror” then by applying a military (and paramilitary) solution to said “war”.
Good morning, pups. It’s Collins, Cohen and Kristof today. La Collins takes us through “The Energy Drill,” and says that while John McCain was never violently opposed to offshore drilling, he has now embraced it as if it is not only the solution to our energy problems, but also the key to eternal salvation. Mr. Cohen gives us “Olé! This Spanish Summer,” and says as the Olympics begin, Spain is reveling in an extraordinary string of sporting triumphs that owe something to the knowledge that sports are also a fight to the death. Mr. Kristof’s column is titled “An Olive Branch From the Dalai Lama,” and he tell us with the Tibet question casting a shadow over the Olympics, the Dalai Lama has expressed an unprecedented willingness to compromise and accept Communist Party rule in Tibet.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got Thomas’ English muffins just out of the toaster. Try the strawberry jam my friend Betty made — it’s delicious. I’ve also got big pitchers of coffee and tea in the fridge for iced tea and coffee. It’s 80° here already, and they tell me that the heat index will approach 110° today. If anyone has a cool breeze to share, please consider sending it down here! Have a cool day.
Yes but the motivation (oil) and management (chenee) are the same in both of these illegal invasions so it is not surprising that the results are the same.
God morning Attaturk
Oh shit… never from my typewriter would I write G*d intentionally I meant the total opposite… Good morning Attaturk
The attack in Afghanistan is as odious as the one on Iraq. We were not attacked by the Afghans nor any group inside of Afghanistan. And none of these middle east nations are a threat to our security. 911 was done with the cooperation of someone over here as it was way beyond the capabilities of those who have been tagged with the responsibility for it. And regardless, the response has not been proportional even if we were seeking “revenge”.
What we need is to understand what happened on 911 and assess the true threat that terrorism is to the US and discover what the terrorists want and hope to achieve by their violence. The violence is their means of achieving some political objective and that objective needs to be understood. It’s more than likely that the US has done things to people who don’t care for it enough to die for it.
I think our foreign policy has been oppressive and we are not wanted (by some? many?) over there and seem to support and impose repressive governments and exploit the people, not assist or elevate them and give them the right to self determination.
Seems to me that we are sewing the seeds of animosity toward this nation by our aggression and wars and we need to re think this approach and reconsider how we “use”/relate to the rest of the world. It is not our oyster to enjoy.
We’re too powerful and this coming economic crash may change that. It may result in more regional conflicts which we have no stake in. Time to get our house in order and use our resources for our people.
Good morning!
From the “If it happened to a Democrat” department, The Straight Sh*t Express- carrying Jane’s good friend Joe “The Joker” Lieberman, was involved in a bit of a minor MVA down in (where else!) Florida!
How fast would that be national headlines?!
Things are also going so well in Iraq that there will likely be no provincial elections in October. Da surge, it’s workin’…
Good Morning, Thanks for the link, I needed a good laugh.
Any news on the repairs to the FDL interface for mozilla?
Are you having problems? I use FF and I’ve only got the “regular” issues that everyone has, “show text” doesn’t work, and “Reply” is iffy. Are there new ones I haven’t bumped into yet?
Morning
oh yeah, the other war.
We don’t hear anything about Iraq either really.
How BushCo f*cked it all up, oh never mind…
I’ll just watch the butter melt on my English muffin.
Good Morning, And, Im just hearing alot more about the anthrax story…and wondering, as your post, will we ever believe a word from our Govt. again? Nothing like a surge and great energy plan…20 years late.
Peace
same ones as you mentioned…
Well, at least we’re not making the same goddam stupid mistakes the Russians did.
What?
Well, at least we’re not making the same goddam stupid mistakes we made in Vietnam…
this president could well have brought about world war 3…and he’s gonna be bragging about it too
I miss the new posts notice even more then edit
Glad you enjoyed-
RE: Mozilla/FF, (Marion in Savannah @13) I wondered that too- I don’t see a lot of difference betw. FF and IE pages.
On my iphone/Safari (yes, I’m one of those) the top link buttons are quite screwed up….
Speaking of the ANTHRAX investigation,
Here’s what’s on Washington Journal:
7:30-8:15 EVAN PEREZ
Wall Street Journal
Justice Department Reporter http://www.wsj.com
Topic: Justice Department Anthrax Investigation. Guest will discuss new information in the FBI probe of Maryland scientist Bruce Ivins, who was believed to be responsible for the 2001 Anthrax mailings.
8:15-8:45 KEN VOGEL
The Politico
Senior Political Writer http://www.politico.com
Topic: Guest will discuss recent article looking at the “The Five Key Campaign Flip-Flops of 2008″ plus other Campaign related issues. [SIGH]
8:45-9:30 PAUL MUOLO Co-Author, “Chain of Blame” http://www.nationalmortgagenews.com
Topic: Guest’s book, “Chain of Blame: How Wall Street Caused the Mortgages & Credit Crisis,” which examines in detail how Wall Street firms, in an interest to gain more of the housing market, encouraged mortgage banks and lenders to increase the amount of subprime mortgages that went on the market. The book also examines the history of subprime lenders; the influence that recently passed regulation will have on the industry. Our guest is also the Executive Editor for National Mortgage News.
9:30-10:00 Phoner/Newspaper Articles/Phones
9:30 On the Phone
Phoner STEVEN DENNIS
Roll Call
Reporter
Topic: Discuss the latest news from House Republicans meeting this week on energy related issues.
This was no fckup. They wanted war and to pass trillions for decades to the MIC… They wanted to keep the Chinese and the Russians out of the ME oil game. They wanted to please the Israel lobby and knock off Israel’s enemies. They wanted to control the people who would fork over their cash and expectations for “social” benefits, like health care, housing, education because “security” is numero uno.
It worked like a charm… and they dismantled the constitution and install losers in gov which were ideologs who willingly did their bidding with the slightest notion of whether it was lawful or for the good of the people. They enriched themselves and their supporters obscenely using the people’s money.
They were not incompetent. They knew exactly what they were doing. And the media bought into and sold the BS to the people.
We’re fcked.
When do we get to see the documents from Cheney’s Energy Policy meetings? Why should those be secret, hmmm…
I think this is all the story of THe Wrecking Crew that will be Sat. Book Salon. It sounds very interesting.
God, try to hear our Pres. saying something about the “huunnnnta.” The Chinese accent is giving him a whole lot of trouble.
Our government is a rich man’s game. We need to get the cash out of politics and get the tits shut down somehow. Being in gov offers too much power to these slackers.
We need term limits so they can’t set up their patronage dynasties. The electoral process is not purging the crap out of the system so we need to limit their time at the money window.
I agree. The U.S. is a Dead Nation Walking.
The U.S. has gone from the Gold Standard of economies, to one which is managed (in a manner of speaking) by Faith-Based loonies who believe the earth is 5,000 years old. But these fact-denying Luddites have absolutely no problem with using Quantum Economics – a science in which massive amounts of currency simply “pop” into existence from nowhere and are distributed to friends, family, and creditors.
What continues to remain a closely guarded national security secret however is even approximately how much of this U.S. Quantum Dollar Funny Money is being foisted on the World Markets inhabited by Fact Based Currencies.
Yes, the most massive economic Bubble in the history of commerce will yet prove to be the Wall Street, Republican, Faith-Based U.S. Dollar.
Here’s an interesting site about economics:
http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/
Not a very positive read, but probably accurate.
By the way, this is the anniversary of our dropping nukes in Japan… the ultimate acts of terror so far.
We have outsourced to Morgan Stanley the Freddie Fannie bailout. We privatized the giving away of our cash to wall street in 2 ways. Our gov can’t even handle the mess they created so they give it to the wallies who gleefully created all the phony financial instruments. Reward failure and slackers.
Good morning everyone! ;-)
I may just giggle a little if Barack Obama decides to attack Saudi Arabia to oust the King and his right wing religious zealots. I’m serious. Okay, I might do one of those evil laughs like this, “Bwa hahahahahaha wah hahahahahahaha! Bwa hahahahahaha ha!” instead of just a giggle.
Okay, going to work now. Darn it.
I’m sure its just Bush’s way of giving Morgan more money without having everyone wonder why Morgan needs the money and causing a run on Morgan.
The “bailouts” are now somewhat north of 50 Billion and will no doubt go higher before these bastards are done. Add that to the trillion or so that has been given to the MIC and the 100 billion or so that the oil companies have ripped us off for and the massive tax cuts for the extremely wealthy and we find find the biggest upward redistribution of money ever leaving the rest of us without a pot to piss in. A very successful 8 years for bushco.
And morning lead, to love, Quarterback traded to NY. Now that’s news.
WSJ reporter who wrote story on Ivins is on WJ. So far none of the callers believe the FBI.
We don’t realize that terrorism is an individual, not a national matter. Any disgruntled individual can strap on explosives and blow him or herself up. We won’t solve the problem by occupying some nation. Nation-state wars are so forties.
We had no business going into Afghanistan in the first place and we will not win there ever. It is also ironic we supported the Taliban against Russia. The idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend is not a basis for a reasonable foreign policy.
I hope Obama is making belicose remarks about Afghanistan as a matter of politics. The US is a crazy place. We don’t take sh-t from anyone even if it’s in their country and we invited ourselves there to help them out. Were Obama to talk reasonably about other people’s needs and desires, he would lose lots of votes. We don’t want no pantywaist as president.
No Man outlives the death of his Word.
Who will ever believe the single nutcase theroy.
If all what they say is true, why wasn’t he on the top of the list of subjects from day one?
Not the FBI not even the President.
I’m just amazed that the FBI didn’t get their talking points out on the R email list. WJ callers on the R line always have them well rehearsed.
The Presidents hard core defenders because they know where this is going at best more government incompetence from those who are suppose to protect us like Bush.
Or maybe someone in the GOP thought sending Dems Anthrax would get them to vote for war.
American Capitalism
Privatize the profits, nationlize the risk.
And that should signal the end of the jets as a viable team and their coach will be a goner before the end of the season.
Bushco has obviously stopped using small airplanes to rid itself of enemies and is now using “suicide” as their preferred method.
Ivins was the fall guy who cooperated in their nefarious plans. They diverted attention to Hatfield while Ivins when all paranoid after being ignored and seeing what he had wrought. They drove him to suicide, or administered driugs to make him extremely paranoid. CIA shit.
Now they want to close the case as yet another lone nutcase (whose mischief was used a justification to attack another nation). Let’s not look too closely at how this guy was set up for exactly what went down, including his own suicide… just like the chap in the UK… how convenient that they all kill themselves before talking.
What’s the military gonna do when the Taliban start using Stingers to shoot down the latest unmanned killer drone?
buy new ones!
It would be nice of some gentle progressive programmer was able to alter the program in these things to make them crash shortly after launch.
When will the people figure out that they are nothing but cannon fodder for the MIC and this has nothing to do with security.
The MIC has taken over foreign policy from the state department. We’re all big stick because there’s oodles of money to be made and jobs to dole out and it appears to the basest instincts of pride and patriotism.
Our people slavishly sign up to “serve” for what they believe is a noble cause… to protect their country… but they are endangering it by the policies of the top brass who are in with the war mongers in the MIC where they will head off to after their “servive”. This has to end. We have too many pressing needs right here inside our borders. The MIC has sucked trillions from the people and we hacve gotten nothing for it for 60 years.
new BT couple flights up