Today’s AP story about the NRA spy who infiltrated Ceasefire NJ, a major gun-control organization, was perfectly in line with classic right-wing gun-nut behavior.
One of the ways that the paranoid mindset endemic to the American right plays out is that they always wind up doing the very things they like to suspect the rest of us of — like playing dirty tricks and infiltrating them. It’s because they start out fearful, and then move on to imagining what those they fear might be doing to harm them, and those imaginings inevitably are built out of what they themselves might do in reversed positions … all of which becomes a self-fulfilling rationale for doing it entirely on their own.
This is especially true of the gun culture. I grew up in it. I know.
Their integrity and honor — you know, the kind of values they like proudly announce they’re all about — is showing, too, in the NRA’s tight-lipped refusal to comment on the story. A press release on the purity of the essence of our bodily fluids is forthcoming, no doubt.
I think the comment from one of the spy’s supposed friends said it all:
Bryan Miller, executive director of Ceasefire NJ, said he feels betrayed by McFate. Miller’s brother, an FBI agent, was shot to death in 1994.
"To have somebody that I consider a friend, have been with dozens of times, shared meals with, treated as a friend, to have her be an employee, a subcontracted spy for the NRA, is just mind-boggling. It’s so venal," Miller said. "In the battle of ideas with the gun lobby, we’re at a constant disadvantage because we’re honest."
Heaven help us if we become as paranoid as they are. And the funny thing is, they keep proving that we ought to be.



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“In the battle of ideas with the gun lobby, we’re at a constant disadvantage because we’re honest.”
Except when they’re not. They have rationalizations at the ready for dishonest statements. Like George says, “We don’t torture!” and then you look at the footnotes and see that torture is defined as something that we don’t do.
Bob in HI
Right wing organizations do get infiltrated – the Michigan Militia, Minutemen, etc are prime examples. And as is typical with left wing infiltration, the guy that wants to blow something up is the FBI agent/contractor.
It is unusual to have a lobbying organization sponsor the infiltration.
Too many passwords, so little time.
Paranoid? Security measures, signed copies of tax returns? Regressive? Yep.
Are progressive groups trustworthy? They had better be for regressive safety valves to work. Just a stupid thought that crossed my mind reading this.
Actually I think Southern Poverty Law Center may have done some infiltration of more militant right wing organizations – ostensibly to prevent lynchings.
It’s a difficult call to make when gathering information about (possibly violent) groups with opposing missions becomes a privacy violation rather than opposition research.
Please note that I’m not defending the NRA’s behavior here, just pointing out that this does cut both ways.
Simply not true in the case of the militia organizations I covered who got into trouble with the law, particularly the Montana Freemen. The Washington State Militia case I covered did involve an undercover FBI agent who acted not as an agent provocateur but was indeed an enabler — that he is, he posed as a white-supremacist black-market arms dealer and promised at various times to set the group up with arms that never came through. OTOH, the talk about blowing people up came very much from the militiamen in question. What the agent did manage to do was provide them with a meeting place which conveniently was loaded with cameras and audio recording equipment. So at the trial we got to see a bunch of video tapes of these guys in action building bombs, etc. Believe me, this activity was clearly at their own behest.
Incidentally, that undercover agent is now a special counsel for the ACLU on domestic terrorism.
I was inspired to look up the rest of the John McCain, er, General Jack D. Ripper quote from Dr. Strangelove. Substitute “islamo-fascist” for “commie” and it should no doubt be included in a travel advisory to delegates attending the RNC.
A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works. I first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love…Yes, a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I-I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women, er, women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake…but I do deny them my essence.
And may I point out that these organizations are infiltrated specifically because they are suspected of criminal activity. And this is federal law enforcement doing the infiltrating, not the members of left-wing organizations.
The SPLC and other groups do indulge in information gathering — rarely by going undercover, though it does happen sometimes. But you won’t see them posing as group leaders.
Dugg
This woman got away with this for a long time. The NRA could have saved a lot of money by just sending the groups a portable cassette recorder and have them tape their meetings and send it back.
Her daughter Montgomery works on counterinsurgency policy for, not at, DOD. There’s another article that speaks about women anthropologists working in the field but I’ll have to search for it.
Quite the reich wing family.
This sounds like police work was done which respected the suspect group’s rights. It saddens me to think that this quality of work appears to be rare and uncommon.
There’s a broad question in my mind about whether we cherry pick stories showing dirty government anti-progressive infiltration. If that tendency exists in our reporting it could explain my sense that police work such as you portrayed it is uncommon, it could be that FBI really doesn’t usually stand for Famous But Incompetent. Or there isn’t significant cherry picking and there is an institutional bias against clean infiltration of left wing groups and for clean infiltration of right wing groups. I’d argue that left groups have history of violence against property, where right wing groups history of violence is directed at humans.
Her leadership role is what is most damning about McFate’s alleged infiltration. She was being trusted to lobby for CeaseFire as a board member? And she was being paid by the NRA simultaneously? She and the NRA are very ethically challenged to say the least.
Trust is a rarity these days. Hope is a great message. Trust needs restored. They only tool I can think of is mistrust, which doesn’t build trust.
Hopefully, I talked my wife into a time out for ten days at rural location from everything to decompress and remember reliance on each other.
I don’t see the connection to undercover law enforcement agents, as well as the SPLC, doing what they do, and this story. This is just sleazy politics between two groups politically opposed to each other. The only thing remarkable is that the NRA would waste its time engaging in something like this. It’s not like a gun-control advocacy group has a secret agenda, they’re very upfront about what they want. Once again, the NRA chooses the stupid. Like when they endorsed Jean Schmidt over Paul Hackett, or George Allen over Jim Webb. The NRA’s just an extension of the Republican party anymore.
Wow, that’s two comments I’ve lost so far…
Anybody else experiencing hiccups…?
I got some kind of error notice a while ago when I clicked on the “comments” button at the bottom of David’s article
it’s ok right now
yes, I just had one.
Some seltzer for the hiccups….
Yeah. I thought they fixed that bug.
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A nibble of fresh mint…
I love that photo, David! Sadly, we do need to adopt the same paranoia as the Rightards, these days… They’ve proven that vigilance on our side is imperative…! We need to imbue it within our Dem’s to be wary of any and all actions conducted/proposed by this Maladministration and investigate their true intentions…
Heh, maybe the NRA and the NSA have melded…! ;-)
Here’s the article on women anthropologists in counterinsurgency. Part of Spencer Ackerman’s excellent series.
Memory work not too shabby for an old dude.
SD, quite a slew of news outta Iraq today…! ;-)
Strange how these people are so afraid of folks who come at them openly to expose their world view for the fear-laden sham that it is.
Aw shit. I’ve been doin’ campaign bookwork til now. Dare I go look?
Meaty, with a lot of F*ckery interspersed…! ;-)
Hey, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re NOT out to get you.
On the one hand, the NRA promotes itself as an altruistic defender of the Constitution, however they do so by subterfuge, which pretty much negates the claim of altruism. No wonder they’re so closely allied with the GOP.
Heh, they’re coming to get me… hee hee haa haa… wheee…! ;-)
“In the battle of ideas with the gun lobby, we’re at a constant disadvantage because we’re honest.”
It’s ok to be honest — in fact it’s more than ok; its a prerequisite for success. But not if “honesty” hides or obscures the need to be vigilant. I don’t think we have to be paranoid or even react like republicans. But we do need to understand how they think, and be wary (vigilant). If a group is not republican, expect that they will send spies. That’s not paranoid, is it?
If it is, what is “eternal vigilance”?
link please?
Ha Ha
Relevant to the previous thread: Kossaks please recommend
‘Xactly…! ;-)
I’ve missed alot of it. But earlier I did hear the outrage that now Iraq has all that money $$$$; so a big rant that they should be paying all the costs for reconstruction and why are we going broke trying to fix things. What garbage…surely we have not completely forgotten who tore the place up and wrecked everything in sight and cast the population across the globe. I may have to go on a news diet. This stuff makes my head swim.
Left ya one at M & C. Stupid neocons should have known better than to try to match wits with Arabs. It’s hard for lizard brains to be subtle.
Mary Lou McFate sounds like a Bond girl from the Dukes of Hazzard.
I hadn’t heard that in years… came out just as I was headed to the Army… it was very apropos at the time!!
Amen, Rev, that did make my head spin too… I should’ve added some of the faux rage in my note that they did, at least, pass their budget today, just not the elections law…!
Wow.Wow. Best read today in a long time.
The only thing the Rethugs can think about is that there’s $80B more they can funnel to KBR and Halliburton. For turning everything they touch in Irak to shit. An alchemist’s dream – turning shit into gold.
Really? For the two or three decades, it has seemed to be a distinct liability!
In an interesting note, all the oil workers in Basra held a successful sit-down protest today… Protesting the sacking of the chief of oil production in Basra by the GZG Oil Ministry… According to Azzaman…
I don’t think so. I think we’ve been honest, and then cried foul when the other guy isn’t playing above-board. Honest in this context seems to mean, say anything and everything to anyone and everyone and when spied on, cry “we’re just being honest”.
I’m saying “know your friends.” Don’t tell everything you know to just anyone. Use the vetting process. How did she get into the organization and into their inner circle without them knowing her past?
Be honest with your friends; be wary of people you don’t know. I don’t believe that’s paranoid; I believe it shows caution.
You guys hurt my feelings.
You all had hiccups and I offered seltzer And a nibble of mint and not one of you said thank you.
Or, said anything else to that.
Oh my, workers organizing! Can’t have that now, can we.
Ian is upstairs!
And around the corner from me tomorrow, Move On is having a protest at the local Repub rep. to protest the phony Repub insistence on coming back to DC to pass that energy bill. How long have they NOT been willing to address that topic? And W is going to China to lecture that little civilization about Dem values….I would really hate for him to lecture me about anything.
And finally, because I’m in my car alot, I heard that Sean Hannity is goading Obama about being afraid to come on his show to answer questions…too afraid, so how can Obama talk to world leaders, blah blah blah. I wrote Mr. Sean that I am quite sure that Sen Obama is indeed not afraid of the questions but afraid of being exposed to something sickening in the hannity presence. I am quite sure Mr. H. does not much care what I think either…what a day.
Sorry THANK YOU Demi!… but the hiccups keep happening:>) Whats with that??
I have no idea, but you are most welcome. A gentleman and a scholar, you are.
I also have some mint/licorice tea.
I was waiting for the wine to put the seltzer in. And some cheez. Or a little pate. Or both.
Oh, sorry. Neither or none. I have some rice and vegetables. Not the same, tho.
Got an hour to read.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
Read and sleep well, you.