“The jobs are not coming back.” – Johnny Mac The Knife

sorry for the early OT – Hamdan found guilty on one count, N/G on the other. Guilty of material support of terrorism.

Who could have anticipated?

I wonder how many of those 8,000 people will still vote for McWrinkly?

Wait! I thought the bad economy was all a figment of our imaginations?

And wouldn’t the best return to American taxpayers be strong viable, long term employment? You know, helping the economy by helping folks earn money, pay bills, put food on the table and roofs over their heads while also feeding the treasury of the federal government and the applicable state and local governments?

Or am I just an idealistic id10t?

and from the NY Post
THE UGLY REALITY BEHIND THE JOBS NUMBERS

[T]he total loss was 147,000 when you include revisions that were made to previous months.

Not scared yet?

Well, the government kept last Friday’s reported loss at just 80,000 by adding 142,000 make-believe jobs to the count.

Those are positions that the Labor Department believes but can’t prove were created by newly formed companies that are beyond the surveying abilities of the government.

That little bit of razzle-dazzle is called the Current Employment Statistics Birth/Death Model, and you can look up that 142,000 number if you don’t believe me.

Previously the government added 135,000 jobs to the February job count, which lessened the loss in that month.

my bold

OT: a reminder, and maybe a moment of reflection for those so inclined:

today marks the sixty-third anniversary of the US atomic bombing of Hiroshima. An estimated 140,000 people were killed instantly or died within a few months after the bombing. Three days later, another US airplane dropped a plutonium bomb on the city of Nagasaki, killing about 80,000 people.

I wonder how many of those 8,000 people will still vote for McWrinkly?

Too early to tell. McWrinkly (*g* – I like that) hasn’t had the chance to show up and tell ‘em how hard he fought to prevent that deal from going through yet.

And you know he will.

Is there an Arian connection to the McCain campaign?

wrt our favorite definitions of bipartisan in previous thread, i guess this post reminds me of one:

bipartisan: loyalty to neoliberal ideology and the washington consensus trumps even momentary concern for people needing decent paying jobs.

Thanks Jane. Another related issue is that with the declining dollar, it is much easier for foreign interests to swallow our best industries. They don’t need McCain’s effing help.

Is that a death penalty?

Life in prison

Initial job numbers are based a lot on projections of historical economic trends and assumptions about the economy. So in a downturn the projections will tend to be too optimistic and underestimate job losses. As real numbers come in the figures are adjusted but this is usually a couple of months after the original announcement and get a lot less press.

Is that a death penalty?

Oh – there you are. Just answered you below. No, this one isn’t death penalty-qualified. Just back to a cell – same as it would have been if he’d gotten *two* Not Guilty’s.

Thanks. Thought I got epu’d below. Also foothillsmike.

So reality may emerge before the election?

and that’s another cab-driver off the streets. /s

MSNBC just reported that Hamdan’s “jury”, handpicked by the Pentagon, wasn’t even required to have a unanimous verdict.

These Tribunal trials are to justice as straight pins are to balloons…

thanks Hugh

jayt @ 17

Just who do they think they’re fooling? Don’t answer that, as it is most Americans who get their info from infotainment.

Jane, Give the poor vet a break! He’s trying his best to win. I mean, if people could just straighten up and realize that their miserable insigificant lives aren’t worth the greater goals of the Republic, he’d be way ahead. He is trying to get us to pull together. More for the have-mores!

We should never forget. The rest of the world hasn’t.

cbl2 – if you are here, thanks for the link (previous thread) on anthrax docs to be released today. looks like we may start seeing them this afternoon. looks like there is at least a hint that the dna analysis used to identify ivins’ lab as the source may be included. hope so – i can’t wait to see that.

but I *love* answering rhetorical questions!

Did yousee my comment yesterday that Bioterrorism 101 demands that terrorist not use material from his own lab because that’s where they look first? By that theory, if Ivins’s lab was the source, he’d be the least likely perp.

I can just see the scanning process. To the scanner, file 13, file 13, to the scanner

New post CHS Hamdan verdict

Newt Gingrich just took credit for balancing the fed budget for 4 years.

show trial thread up

but I *love* answering rhetorical questions!

Is that so?

lol. yeah.

reading more now… i guess they are also going to talk with victims families before the release later today.

This is the one thing about McCain job record…. first the Airbus deal and now this….

“Unemployed people are such whiners!”

Phil Gramm

Good on ya, John Boy. “Narrow, protectionist concerns?” Like shilling for big oil and the financial services sector, Sen. McCain? Unlike, say, touting torture (despite the POW experience you never talk about) and the hiring mercenaries instead of soldiers and Marines, which are public spirited?

Keep it up. Ohio is a key swing state; more of this and it will be a rout for the Democrats.

“…Foreman said
These jobs are goin’, boys,
And they ain’t comin’ back.
To your hometown….” Bruce Springsteen, My Hometown.

I’m going to print this and put copies where I think people might read them.