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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/dontgo-right-roots-rising/#comment-1570825</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;late to the thread but I’d like to make note here anyway, a “Ron Paul supporter” is necessarily thinks they are  libertarian&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the principle of libertarianism is anarchy, they pretend they don’t want “regulations” (which is in fact anarchy by definition), yet they then say they have a right to their property&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;news flash, the very concept of ownership is itself a regulation, a monetary system is a regulation and using the court system to enforce your property rights are regulations&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;what the “libertarians” really mean when they say “we don’t like regulations” is “the regulations that protect us are good, the regulations that protect you are bad”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it is good to remind (or inform as the case might be), that the boston tea party, the very reason our nation exists, happened BECAUSE the king REDUCED regulations so his pals in big business would have an edge over the locals&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BECAUSE THE PEOPLE KNEW WE NEED REGULATIONS TO SURVIVE&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>late to the thread but I’d like to make note here anyway, a “Ron Paul supporter” is necessarily thinks they are  libertarian</p>
<p>the principle of libertarianism is anarchy, they pretend they don’t want “regulations” (which is in fact anarchy by definition), yet they then say they have a right to their property</p>
<p>news flash, the very concept of ownership is itself a regulation, a monetary system is a regulation and using the court system to enforce your property rights are regulations</p>
<p>what the “libertarians” really mean when they say “we don’t like regulations” is “the regulations that protect us are good, the regulations that protect you are bad”</p>
<p>it is good to remind (or inform as the case might be), that the boston tea party, the very reason our nation exists, happened BECAUSE the king REDUCED regulations so his pals in big business would have an edge over the locals</p>
<p>THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BECAUSE THE PEOPLE KNEW WE NEED REGULATIONS TO SURVIVE</p>
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		<title>By: InnocentBystander</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/dontgo-right-roots-rising/#comment-1570739</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This “drill now, pay less” kabuki theater is a joke.  How will passing this legislation actual get Big Oil to change anything?  What’s their incentive?  They got a great business model now.  Fill up at the Aramco Oil Station in Saudia Arabia and resell to us at inflated prices.  Plus, us taxpayers handle their security and muscle, courtesy of our military budget. (Here’s an idea - let’s invoice Big Oil for 25% of our military budget to reflect this and get the real cost of ME oil properly valued….that ought to make alternative/renewable energy options a lot more attractive).  Why would Big Oil actually capitalize the costs of drilling holes that might not produce?  There’s risk in that business model….the stockholders (and management) have no incentive to increase investment risk and reduce profits by actually drilling more holes here.  But they certainly have no problems letting their political front group (the GOP) use this issue to drill into our pocketbooks some more.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This “drill now, pay less” kabuki theater is a joke.  How will passing this legislation actual get Big Oil to change anything?  What’s their incentive?  They got a great business model now.  Fill up at the Aramco Oil Station in Saudia Arabia and resell to us at inflated prices.  Plus, us taxpayers handle their security and muscle, courtesy of our military budget. (Here’s an idea &#8211; let’s invoice Big Oil for 25% of our military budget to reflect this and get the real cost of ME oil properly valued….that ought to make alternative/renewable energy options a lot more attractive).  Why would Big Oil actually capitalize the costs of drilling holes that might not produce?  There’s risk in that business model….the stockholders (and management) have no incentive to increase investment risk and reduce profits by actually drilling more holes here.  But they certainly have no problems letting their political front group (the GOP) use this issue to drill into our pocketbooks some more.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/dontgo-right-roots-rising/#comment-1570719</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;McCain’s got the 20,000-capacity Xcel Center.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Paul’s got the 60,000-capacity Metrodome.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Paul even gets the Dome to half capacity, he’s pwned McCain big-time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain’s got the 20,000-capacity Xcel Center.</p>
<p>Paul’s got the 60,000-capacity Metrodome.</p>
<p>If Paul even gets the Dome to half capacity, he’s pwned McCain big-time.</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/dontgo-right-roots-rising/#comment-1570661</link>
		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The members of Congress who claim the price of oil responds to their protestations are clearly logic-impaired in a post hoc way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, drilling for oil would be long way off even if permitted more than it already has been so far.  And the most important thing to understand is that it would only happen as long as prices were high enough to make it economically feasible without government subsidies such as the leasing system implemented in the Gulf, for example.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The oil patch has always rued world oil prices for being low for so long.  They’ve always wanted the prices to go up so they could get back into the game.  They hate Exxon with a vengeance for being in it without them.  McCain will see to it that they get a piece of the action.  That’s what he promises, at any rate, in populist terms.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The members of Congress who claim the price of oil responds to their protestations are clearly logic-impaired in a post hoc way.</p>
<p>Of course, drilling for oil would be long way off even if permitted more than it already has been so far.  And the most important thing to understand is that it would only happen as long as prices were high enough to make it economically feasible without government subsidies such as the leasing system implemented in the Gulf, for example.</p>
<p>The oil patch has always rued world oil prices for being low for so long.  They’ve always wanted the prices to go up so they could get back into the game.  They hate Exxon with a vengeance for being in it without them.  McCain will see to it that they get a piece of the action.  That’s what he promises, at any rate, in populist terms.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/dontgo-right-roots-rising/#comment-1570620</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Patrick Ruffini is right about one thing — it must’ve been awfully difficult to organize around defending George Bush for the past eight years, an unenviable task &lt;strong&gt;destined to attract only the intellectually impoverished, the morally bankrupt and the logic-impaired.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My bold lets not forget anger junkies and those who are in it for the money.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Ruffini is right about one thing — it must’ve been awfully difficult to organize around defending George Bush for the past eight years, an unenviable task <strong>destined to attract only the intellectually impoverished, the morally bankrupt and the logic-impaired.</strong></p>
<p>My bold lets not forget anger junkies and those who are in it for the money.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/dontgo-right-roots-rising/#comment-1570618</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/mccain-deploys-shiny-object-ad-to-distract-from-own-ethical-lapses/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Christy upstairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/mccain-deploys-shiny-object-ad-to-distract-from-own-ethical-lapses/" rel="nofollow">New Christy upstairs</a></p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/dontgo-right-roots-rising/#comment-1570616</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/mccain-deploys-shiny-object-ad-to-distract-from-own-ethical-lapses/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New shiny thong&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/mccain-deploys-shiny-object-ad-to-distract-from-own-ethical-lapses/" rel="nofollow">New shiny thong</a></p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Republicans in the House are pulling a pretty thin stunt in demanding that Democrats not go on August recess until a solution is found to the energy crisis, and John McCain is applauding them. In theory that’s great — we have a huge energy problem in this country that definitely needs dealing with. Have had for decades.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The more proven reserves of oil an oil company has the more its stock rises well that and the price of oil.&lt;br /&gt;
    Actually drilling for more oil increases supply and lowers price.  Despite all the oil reserves the oil companies have they ae not drilling more because they like the price where it is.&lt;br /&gt;
    The only thing offshore drilling will do is raise the stock price of the oil companies now.&lt;br /&gt;
    Maybe in 10 years the price of oil will go down if we start drilling now. But that assumes that we will have the same ratio of oil to meet demand as we do now.&lt;br /&gt;
   Demand for oil though is going up as population increases and poorer countries get richer and want cars, oil supplies are declining we could pump everything we got and those facts won’t change much.&lt;br /&gt;
   However hybrids would cut demand and oil prices FASTER than we could by pumping more oil.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans in the House are pulling a pretty thin stunt in demanding that Democrats not go on August recess until a solution is found to the energy crisis, and John McCain is applauding them. In theory that’s great — we have a huge energy problem in this country that definitely needs dealing with. Have had for decades.</p>
<p>The more proven reserves of oil an oil company has the more its stock rises well that and the price of oil.<br />
    Actually drilling for more oil increases supply and lowers price.  Despite all the oil reserves the oil companies have they ae not drilling more because they like the price where it is.<br />
    The only thing offshore drilling will do is raise the stock price of the oil companies now.<br />
    Maybe in 10 years the price of oil will go down if we start drilling now. But that assumes that we will have the same ratio of oil to meet demand as we do now.<br />
   Demand for oil though is going up as population increases and poorer countries get richer and want cars, oil supplies are declining we could pump everything we got and those facts won’t change much.<br />
   However hybrids would cut demand and oil prices FASTER than we could by pumping more oil.</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/06/dontgo-right-roots-rising/#comment-1570609</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Royal Oak and dcblogger -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/04/obama-and-mccain-move-towards-drilling-compromise/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scarecrow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
wrote a thoughtful post on Obama’s energy plan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama lost me at FISA but the post is worth a read and consideration&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Royal Oak and dcblogger -</p>
<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/04/obama-and-mccain-move-towards-drilling-compromise/" rel="nofollow">Scarecrow</a><br />
wrote a thoughtful post on Obama’s energy plan.</p>
<p>Obama lost me at FISA but the post is worth a read and consideration</p>
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		<title>By: wethepeopleismarxnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>wethepeopleismarxnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Effectively the only source of factual daily poltical opinion this nation has; those hippie bloggers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Effectively the only source of factual daily poltical opinion this nation has; those hippie bloggers.</p>
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