Patrick Ruffini is right about one thing — it must’ve been awfully difficult to organize around defending George Bush for the past eight years, an unenviable task destined to attract only the intellectually impoverished, the morally bankrupt and the logic-impaired.
On the left, we were able to mobilize against the war, the destruction of the Constitution, Hurricane Katrina and an almost daily buffet of crony capitalism outrages. And also, it should be said, we took on the Democratic Party, who were supposed to do such great things with that 2006 majority.
Now the rightroots folks are trying to play catchup with the #Dontgo movement, and while I think Patrick is probably right that it’s easier to play offense rather than defense online, the idea that this was spawned as some sort of grass roots uprising is kind of a joke.
The Republicans in the House are pulling a pretty thin stunt in demanding that Democrats not go on August recess until a solution is found to the energy crisis, and John McCain is applauding them. In theory that’s great — we have a huge energy problem in this country that definitely needs dealing with. Have had for decades.
But to pretend that their proffered solution — more drilling — is not one that was drafted by the oil companies, supported with huge marketing budgets and enormous campaign donations, is pathetic. Newt Gingrich is leading the charge, ferchrissakes. The whole thing is just more of the rightroots acting as an echo chamber for their party’s corporate overlords. Top-down messaging in extremis, no matter how many tweets you generate.
(It also looks like they’ve picked a dog of an issue — 63% of Americans say expanded drilling is "more likely to enrich oil companies than to lower gas prices for American consumers," according to a recent poll. And McCain’s $1.3 million in donations from Big Oil in June hardly make him the leader of a grassroots rebellion.)
The much more realistic counterpart to the left’s online organizing efforts are probably to be found with the Ron Paul conservatives, who are disgusted at the fact that their principles of smaller government, civil liberties and no foreign intervention have been sacrificed to the highest bidder. Their online organizing efforts are likewise nascent, but their counter-convention in Minneapolis seems a lot more interesting than an effort to boil Exxon’s messaging down to 150 characters so a bunch of people can repeat it with sheep-like accuracy.
Face it, fellas. You’re still getting pwnd.



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Yeah! Jane!!!
And just for the record, how many votes has McCain had in this congress?
If it is so very important for Congress to be in session during this period, it might have helped for him to actually show up once in a while when it HAS been in session.
Yeah, it does raise the question — “is this what it takes to get John McCain to show up in Congress?”
This group tantrum that is happening right after a bipartisan senate group has come out with the basis for a comprehensive plan could paint those on the house floor for what they are and mcSame is – Oil Co stooges.
The sad thing is that many Dems are ready to cave on drilling. Pelosi is the only thing standing between us and a sell out.
Jane!
You wrote,
I guess I have to quibble with the word “effectively.” The War continues, unabated, the shredding of the Constitution continues, and Dick Cheney’s friends at Halliburton and in the oil industry are scoring record profits. And the Democratic Party still refuses to put impeachment back on the table.
Thank God for your leadership of FDL, Emptywheel, and the Netroots. You have been my lifeline. However, effective? unfortunately, not so much. Valiant? Yes! Awesome? Yes! Vital? Yes! Inspiring? Yes! Effective? Um, let me look at that score card again.
We’ve got more work to do!
Bob in HI
but, but, what about Jack Kingston’s family ?!?!?
Why did he run for congress, if he didn’t want to work?
This is one concise, articulate and informative post.
(You must be po’d about sumthin’…my prediction is that we will see the referred to or reposted elsewhere.)
What a bunch of Drama Queens, on top of everything else.
You are joking I assume?
I would disagree with you to the extent that you need to think about where things would be if the folks at FDL et al were not around forcing the Congress and TradMed to at least recognize it on their “radar screens.”
Just getting attention is making an effective impact.
Think marathon, not sprint.
Big Oil doen’t really expect this effort to succeed.
It is one front of a multi front attack.
THey just keep puching until they wear down the opposition.
Like FISA
Like Estate Taxes
I took out the word “effectively” because it was misleading — we organized effectively. Very effectively. We got people to take action, support candidates, push back against bad narratives. We just didn’t have any effect on the things like the war, which as you’ve probably noticed continues unabated.
well.. I look forward to seeing the debut of MoveBack.org, http://www.burningcrosslake.com, and the infamous Four More Years blog… :)
W-A-T-B’s
in case you haven’t seen it, the righties are po’d at GWB for desserting them in this their hour of dire need –
teehee
707!
I guess you don’t get the point: he ran for Congress because he didn’t want to work!
FYI, check out Huffpo – Murray Waas has a post up about the DOJ.
oh.. and don’t forget the Let Let’EmEatCake Virtual Caucus and the NoChange netroots campaign.
Oh, this isn’t Ruffini’s first time playing grassroots advocate. When the Washington Post was trying to get Froomkin kicked out of the news division for excessive and unseemly liberalism, they cited “conservative blogger” Patrick Ruffini – the webmaster of the ‘04 Bush Cheney website.
Oh *him*!
Great post, Jane!
I agree we took them on. Problem is, they seem to be too thick to understand why they were elected. Most of us thought they would try harder to get our army out of Iraq and also to bring some accountability back into government. I thought the least they could do (no, I do not mean that “tongue in cheek”)was to exercise some of their rights as Congressmen/women. That is, maybe they could use the power of the purse get the President’s and VP’s attention. Thus far, there isn’t one situation in which I don’t see the Congress as backing down and capitulating to this executive branch of government. Not even when they found corruption in the DOJ. The Democratic majority has done an absolutely lousy job.
(It also looks like they’ve picked a dog of an issue — 63% of Americans say expanded drilling is “more likely to enrich oil companies than to lower gas prices for American consumers,”
If that’s true where do they get the “70% of Americans are for more drilling” that keeps getting cited by the village idiots? I would think one of these polls has to be wrong (although I know the American public can easily hold to opposing ideas at the same time, hence the bush reelection).
oh dear gaia, someone please photoshop Boehner’s face here
The Dems should compromise a comeback with a ‘hey we’ll talk gas price increases and off-shore drilling if you give us IMPEACHMENT!’
Maybe they don’t mind if the oil companies get richer as long as they get their oil fix.
Save it for McSame after the first debate
Thank you, Jane, for your gracious response. You and Dakine01 @11 are right in that the Netroots (including FDL) have been effective in many ways– Live-blogging the Libby trial was an outstanding example. And those successes give me hope, and I thank you for that!!! I’m looking forward to much more to come, and I thank you for continually looking for ways to enhance FDL’s effectiveness.
Aloha,
Bob in HI
couldn’t find link I read yesterday, but they are definitely playing games with the numbers – crap like this
in S California, 70% polled say gas prices are a hardship, with 51% saying offshore drilling would be ok, yet headline at top of article reads “70% favor offshore drilling”
oh… and
Jane!
If the GOP is serious about bringing energy reform to our country, why is there only solution to drill more?
I think we need a campaign that calls for the regulation of the Oil Industry similar to the Insurance industry, where the rates they charge are based solely on the cost to produce plus a small profit. Similar to the way public utility companies are run.
The only reason why the American Public are open to more drilling is because we are desperate for prices to come down. So sure they are for anything that claims it will bring prices down.
But you know our MSM doesn’t look into issues any longer they break everything down into left and right and pass it off as reporting.
Even sadder is that Obama appears to be on the side of those ready to cave…
Meant to add linky to back up my statement – sorry -
http://blog.washingtonpost.com…..lling.html
Effectively the only source of factual daily poltical opinion this nation has; those hippie bloggers.
Royal Oak and dcblogger -
Scarecrow
wrote a thoughtful post on Obama’s energy plan.
Obama lost me at FISA but the post is worth a read and consideration
The Republicans in the House are pulling a pretty thin stunt in demanding that Democrats not go on August recess until a solution is found to the energy crisis, and John McCain is applauding them. In theory that’s great — we have a huge energy problem in this country that definitely needs dealing with. Have had for decades.
The more proven reserves of oil an oil company has the more its stock rises well that and the price of oil.
Actually drilling for more oil increases supply and lowers price. Despite all the oil reserves the oil companies have they ae not drilling more because they like the price where it is.
The only thing offshore drilling will do is raise the stock price of the oil companies now.
Maybe in 10 years the price of oil will go down if we start drilling now. But that assumes that we will have the same ratio of oil to meet demand as we do now.
Demand for oil though is going up as population increases and poorer countries get richer and want cars, oil supplies are declining we could pump everything we got and those facts won’t change much.
However hybrids would cut demand and oil prices FASTER than we could by pumping more oil.
New shiny thong
New Christy upstairs
Patrick Ruffini is right about one thing — it must’ve been awfully difficult to organize around defending George Bush for the past eight years, an unenviable task destined to attract only the intellectually impoverished, the morally bankrupt and the logic-impaired.
My bold lets not forget anger junkies and those who are in it for the money.
The members of Congress who claim the price of oil responds to their protestations are clearly logic-impaired in a post hoc way.
Of course, drilling for oil would be long way off even if permitted more than it already has been so far. And the most important thing to understand is that it would only happen as long as prices were high enough to make it economically feasible without government subsidies such as the leasing system implemented in the Gulf, for example.
The oil patch has always rued world oil prices for being low for so long. They’ve always wanted the prices to go up so they could get back into the game. They hate Exxon with a vengeance for being in it without them. McCain will see to it that they get a piece of the action. That’s what he promises, at any rate, in populist terms.
McCain’s got the 20,000-capacity Xcel Center.
Paul’s got the 60,000-capacity Metrodome.
If Paul even gets the Dome to half capacity, he’s pwned McCain big-time.
This “drill now, pay less” kabuki theater is a joke. How will passing this legislation actual get Big Oil to change anything? What’s their incentive? They got a great business model now. Fill up at the Aramco Oil Station in Saudia Arabia and resell to us at inflated prices. Plus, us taxpayers handle their security and muscle, courtesy of our military budget. (Here’s an idea – let’s invoice Big Oil for 25% of our military budget to reflect this and get the real cost of ME oil properly valued….that ought to make alternative/renewable energy options a lot more attractive). Why would Big Oil actually capitalize the costs of drilling holes that might not produce? There’s risk in that business model….the stockholders (and management) have no incentive to increase investment risk and reduce profits by actually drilling more holes here. But they certainly have no problems letting their political front group (the GOP) use this issue to drill into our pocketbooks some more.
late to the thread but I’d like to make note here anyway, a “Ron Paul supporter” is necessarily thinks they are libertarian
the principle of libertarianism is anarchy, they pretend they don’t want “regulations” (which is in fact anarchy by definition), yet they then say they have a right to their property
news flash, the very concept of ownership is itself a regulation, a monetary system is a regulation and using the court system to enforce your property rights are regulations
what the “libertarians” really mean when they say “we don’t like regulations” is “the regulations that protect us are good, the regulations that protect you are bad”
it is good to remind (or inform as the case might be), that the boston tea party, the very reason our nation exists, happened BECAUSE the king REDUCED regulations so his pals in big business would have an edge over the locals
THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BECAUSE THE PEOPLE KNEW WE NEED REGULATIONS TO SURVIVE