You all remember Richard Jewell. He was the hapless guy who made the mistake of being a security guard in the vicinity of right-wing nutcase Eric Rudolph when the latter set off a bomb at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. Rather than do the hard work of tracking down a far-right extremist on the loose, the FBI concluded there wasn't a political motive to the bombing (there was) but instead a personal-aggrandizement agenda at work, so they arrested Jewell -- who actually had spotted the bomb and heroically cleared the area.
Oops.
Now, with all the eagerness to "solve" the case they displayed in 1996, the FBI decided has decided that Bruce Ivins is the anthrax killer -- after six and a half years of letting the case rot on the vine. A number of the reports about the case have indicated the Justice Department is now considering closing it. But today's New York Times and Baltimore Sun stories -- along with Glenn Greenwald's superb reportage -- should raise enough questions about the "official story" to prevent that from happening, at least for the time time being.
Of course, the FBI already has a Richard Jewell in the anthrax case: Steven Hatfill, the wrongfully accused Fort Detrick scientist who successfully sued the crap out of the government for linking him to the killings. Now it appears the FBI is eager to dump the case in the lap of a man who is dead.
On the other hand, some of the circumstantial evidence now emerging about Ivins is fairly powerful, particularly today's Washington Post report indicating that Ivins used a Fort Detrick dryer capable of making the anthrax used in the mailings. However, that still does not answer the question of whether Ivins' dryer was actually the one used; these dryers each leave distinguishing signatures on the anthrax they produce.
The case against Ivins so far is largely circumstantial, but that could change. Certainly the evidence suggests he was involved. It doesn't indicate at all, however, that he acted alone if he was. In any event, none of the evidence presented publicly is close enough to warrant being considered conclusive.
Considering that, as the NYT report noted, as many as 10 scientists at Detrick had access to this anthrax, it remains entirely possible that Ivins only produced the samples that were used by another scientist with more nefarious purposes. As Meryl Nass pointedly observes: "No matter how good the microbial forensics may be, they can only, at best, link the anthrax to a particular strain and lab. They cannot link it to any individual."
We all know the FBI has been under pressure to manipulate the anthrax case from the start. Juan Cole noted yesterday that the Bush White House was pressuring the FBI to blame Al Qaeda for the anthrax. And when that didn't work, Iraq got tagged "it" -- and the supposed link to the anthrax mailings became part of the rationale for invading them. John McCain played a key role in that particular piece of disinformation.
Now they want to simply be done with the case. But considering that it was a scientist on the government payroll who they're blaming, that won't be so easy. Once again, it's time for a full-blown congressional investigation of this matter -- especially if the Justice folks try sweeping it prematurely under the carpet.
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More doubt from a New Scientist reporter who met Ivins in 1998.
Pin the blame on the donkey. Bradblog reports that Ivins was a registered Democrat.
What more likely a crime for a reportedly registered Democrat and an accused homcidal misogynist than to launch attacks on the male members “liberal media”, male liberal politicians.
It makes perfect sense in Bushian upside downism.
-G
Rush Holt (in whose district spores were found on a public mailbox, on Nassau Street in Princeton) and Patrick Leahy (who was the addressee of an anthrax letter misdelivered to the State Department) should press their respective Congressional leadership to undertake a joint investigative committee to get the truth.
The pieces of information leaking out to the media bear no relationship to the truth — and put the lie to DoJ’s stated intent to completely brief the victims’ families before making public statements.
I trust the FBI to solve this mystery as much as I trust the Beijing air to clear up by Friday: not one whit.
Don’t forget Ivins’ supposed obsession with sorority girls — clearly deviant behavior when viewed through a BushWorld prism!
You all remember Richard Jewell.
Yes I do. I remember the first time I saw his picture on the teevee, and saying immediately (out loud and in front of witnesses) “they’ve got the wrong guy”. I have no idea why that feeling struck me so forcefully at that moment, but hey - strange things happen.
I’m getting about 3/4 of the same buzz about this Ivins guys. Either they’ve completely gotten the wrong guy again, or the story is such that it has taken a guy maybe tangentially involved, and twisted it severely, covering a whole lotta ass around D.C.
I have never believed/trusted anything that that Fumbling Bunch of Idiots had to say about much of anything-bunch of paper pushers. You would not believe the numbers of times I heard my bosses cuss them out, nor how many times I did. Even the famous FBI lab has been found to have lied its head off to get people convicted. Anyway. Given what has come to lite over the last few days. Could the VP have “suggested” to an underling that anthrax might be a good way to insure that we invade Iraq? Admin people-VP also-sure pushed that meme after the second and final round of attacks, didn’t they? Who got the anthrax. Senate dems-who were giving bush/cheney fits-(remember him(cheney) saying to sen Leahy”fuck you”) and the sen majority leader Dashle(sp?) the first wave, (practice run?)went out to the Enquirer supermarket checkout lane paper, but not to very much attention. Then congress-always dems, never repigs-and major news networks, who had, again, been critical of bushco. So, Could he, would he, did he? Cheney seems to be careless in leaving his fingerprints-Plame, and what Suskind and Hersh have been reporting. Applying massive amounts of pressure to justify invading Iraq, could they have gone that far? I bunderstand that the show “24″ is a very big hit in bushco wannabe land, so……….
Reminds me of Oswald. Ivins might have been involved, at the order of Bushco, after all, they ordered the CIA to concoct evidence to take us to war per Susskind; and when they turned on him (6 1/2 years later), he became furious and vented at Duely…maybe he said he was gonna blow the whistle…so he got “suicided”. Then it’s close the case. Move along.
The story stinks.
No. We are not going to move along. An investigation is needed.
That conveniently places him near the mailbox the anthrax was mailed from, doesn’t it? Fits a little too nicely, IMHO.
Richard Spertzel has more at today’s Wall Street Journal.
Reminds me of Oswald.
The story stinks.
No. We are not going to move along. An investigation is needed.
yep, yep, and yep.
Strange how folks who the FBI wrongly fingers for various crimes end up dead. Along with people they just feel like killing. Not enough evidence for a conviction? Kill ‘em. Problem solved. All dead Vietnamese were Viet Cong so everybody the FBI kills must be terrorists or very dangerous criminals.
I wonder if we’ll hear about his trips to the Sturgis rally to watch the pickle licking contests as evidence of his perversion.
-G
Just how does one guy get Anthrax out of a top secret army base without help? Because if thats possible then why should terrorist stop there when Plutonium is also kept at top secret army bases.
Let’s not forget that Jane Mayer also recently reported that two rock ribbed Republicans, Jack Goldsmith and James Comey were frightened of being wired-tapped and were in fear of their lives too.
-G
From Democracy Now: Transcript of Amy’s interview with Glenn Greenwald and Dr. Meryl Nass.
The most damning evidence came from Jean Duley, graduate student in social work. Dr. Nass’s blog on Jean Duley: http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.....redux.html
Not only should the investigation not end now, it shouldn’t end until a fair hearing is held AFTER January, 09.
One Truth that is coming out is that Bush and his crime family have zero credibility. Pretty sad state of affairs and now the repubs are nominating another liar for the office
Or people about to testify
Hours before Casey was scheduled to testify before Congress about his knowledge of Iran-Contra, he was reported to have been rendered incapable of speech, and was later hospitalized. In his 1987 book, Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA 1981-1987, Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward, who had interviewed Casey on numerous occasions, said that he had gained entry to Casey’s hospital room for a final, four-minute long encounter — a claim that was met with disbelief in many quarters, and adamant denial by Casey’s wife, Sofia. According to Woodward, when he asked Casey if he knew about the diversion of funds to the Nicaraguan Contras, “His head jerked up hard. He stared, and finally nodded yes.”[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Casey
I don’t think the FBI is doing the killing. I think there are “other” dark or covert forces that protect the powers that be when it looks like they are going to be exposed as having been involved.
sorry, I forgot to add the Democracy Now link.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/4/anthrax
Jean Duley is a convenient patsy. Tell me how a twice-convicted DUIer gets a drug group counselor job within a year of her last conviction. Tell me how a social worker gets disclosure of Ivins’ long psychiatric history from his actual doctors. Tell me how that counselor knows that her patient is going to be indicted for five capital murders.
Tell me a therapist that can’t spell therapist has credibility.
-G
The CIA has done it’s fair share (Frank Olson for one); I don’t see why the FBI can’t get in on the fun.
David,
The lyophylizer (dryer) is a red herring. Dr. Ivins signed it out under his name…and had research interests including use of said dryer…why make it easy to trace to you if you intend harm?
Anyone today trust FBI/DOJ to be interested in justice?
Life in any form has become as valueless as life in Stalin’s USSR. The Rethugs want to protect unborn humans but the minute they’re born, valueless.
Thats a really good set of questions which the FBI should answer.
Here is my rather long scandals list entry on this:
Tell me why a registered Democrat targeted Democrats only. Tell me why Judy Miller got a fake anthrax letter. Tell me why Ivins would send anthrax to the Florida targets. Tell me how he made powdered anthrax when all he had access to was liquid anthrax.
Tell me why Bushco hasn’t been arrested for treason.
It’s a constant drumbeat of misdirection.
-G
One of the more interesting factoids I’ve heard on this subject (sorry, ref is lost to history but it might have been democracynow yesterday) is that Bioterrorism 101 demands that the perp use an agent that can’t be traced back to him, cause that’s the first place they look. Like duh. That would leave out Ivins. OTOH, don’t know much about bioterrorism, so don’t know how difficult it would be for a knowledgeable person to get ahold of an agent he doesn’t actually work on.
Was Ivins on drugs? Is that why he was in her group? If so, and they removed his “treatment drug” from him, it’s more than conceivable that he would reach for Tylenol with Codeine.
Special Agents of the FBI probably don’t do some of the covert killing but Special Agents were involved in the deaths at Waco, Ruby Ridge and the assassination of a Puerto Rican resistance member. They are also suspected in the the arson that took the lives of John Trudell’s wife, children and mother-in-law. Whether they do the killing themselves or outsource it, it’s done at their behest. Like I said yesterday, thugs and killers. Wouldn’t piss on one of them if h/she was on fire.
Why no arrest for treason?
Because those who know the dirt are killed (suicided) before they can come clean. Helps to have those wire and email intercepts and the super computers searching for “enemys of the state.”
—unless shortly after they are born they become good christians and republicans…
Bush was “appointed” president in 2000.
9/11 happened on Bush’s watch.
Bushco flaunted the fake letter linking AQ to Iraq.
Bushco flaunted the connection of anthrax to AQ and to Iraq.
Bushco lied about the Niger uranium.
Bushco presented a white paper with the 16 agencies’ findings eliminated, to Congress to trick them into invading Iraq.
Bushco lied about the aluminum tubes.
David Kelly dies mysteriously right after hearing from Judy Miller.
Ivins dies mysteriously right after Hatfill gets a settlement.
Ken Lay “dies” mysteriously right after being convicted.
Where’s OBL?
More than a million people have died horrible deaths.
Does this remind anyone else of the strange suicide of British UN weapons inspector; David Kelly?
LS- You beat me to it.
There, all fixed. *g*
We’ll share a coke!
Now that you have read the Post please Digg it!!
First name I thought of when I heard of Ivins’ death.
Back to work. Later.
And Bush looked into Ex KGB Putin’s eyes and saw someone he could be buddies with
That being true; what is our recourse?
x
Bloggers Larisa Alexandrovna (Raw Story.com) and Glenn Greenwald (Salon.com) beat the major press on Jean Duley’s background. Seems she has an extensive police record including two arrests for DUI since 2006 and a remote drug paraphernalia charge. I suspected as much, having read that she was involved in treating addicts with Suboxone. Many substance abuse counselors are themselves recovered abusers. In this case, her recovery seems to be in question. And she just graduated college!
http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.....redux.html
My bold What is an Anthrax researcher doing in drug treatment isn’t that a security problem?
What is Suboxone?
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So we got a likely Heroin user with right wing views working with Anthrax I wonder if he got high listening to Rush and getting more paranoid.
I’d like to clarify that there is a darn good reason for Dr. Ivins to have used, or studied the use of, a lyophilizer in the fall of 2001 - both before and after the first anthrax attacks.
Lyophilizing (aka freeze drying) is an extremely common method for producing stabilized sera for tests and vacinations. Wet serum must necessarily be refrigerated to protect against contamination and to maintain efficacy. When massive amounts of vaccines are needed (say, to protect troops - who are facing an upcoming war- from biological attack), it is extremely important to determine ways to store those vaccines without the necessity of refrigeration. [Refrigerated trucks and large refrigerated vats being a little difficult to use in much of the terrain of war.]
How on earth could freeze-drying of a potentially protective vaccine be deemed suspicious?
I argue this because, with the reports so far, we have no idea whether it was flasks of anthrax or flasks of vaccine, or even merely flasks of human plasma (possibly from early victims, storing the plasma for future forensic studies?) that were being lyophilized.
This report about the lyophilizer is about as much a smoking gun as would be a similar report about having a microscope in the lab. By itself, it means absolutely nothing. Pfft, I say.
Judy probably faked her anthrax letter herself so she could get attention.
Aren’t there laws concerning the release of medical/ mental records?
Could/would Ivin’s doctors have released his history?
Yes and the BBC got silenced after reporting those allegations.
And what was that “germ” book she wrote? Sure had a lot of “connections”…
My only caveat about this is that, in combination with Ivins’ less-than-convincing explanation about the disappearance of anthrax spore samples from his laboratory, there is a set of circumstances here in which he could have used the dryer for these purposes. Again, the key question here is whether this particular lyophilizer was the one used to make this anthrax, since they should be able to tell.
WRT the Duley angle, it is an old and time honored means of discrediting someone by portraying them as mentally ill or morally perverse. That’s why the plumbers broke into the office of Daniel Ellsberg’s psychiatrist. It’s why Martha Mitchell, wife of Nixon’s Attorney General, John Mitchell was dismissed as a crazy drunk. It’s why a morals charge was made against Scott Ritter. What’s so great about this line of attack is that it is so effective. The public falls for it every time.
But let’s face it if every drunk, nut, or character with “low” morals was kicked out of Washington, the Congress and Executive Branch would be emptied and tumbleweed would be blowing down the corridors of the White House and Capitol.
David Neiwert:
A quibble on phrasing:
Don’t you mean “none of the evidence leaked…”?
She spread the government approved rumors but one guy at a top secret base caused this, probably not chances are the people who fed Judy the convenient and very well timed rumors and germ book information knew that something like this was coming.
After all Judy was selling the war why would a Winger send her Anthrax?
I and others want to know why Ivins was found unconscious (on March 19 of all days).
Teddy, Rush Holt is all over this. He’s a scientist.
He’s also got an emergency election audit bill for 2008 coming up!
And the problem with that would be…?
Just for context purposes … the less-than-convincing explanation from Ivins appears in this LAT article from 2004:
I guess I am just a naysayer, because I just keep seeing all kinds of assumptions in the blogosphere.
One is that Ms. Duley misspelled her own profession. When I look at the court document, I see everything printed EXCEPT her signature. The signature is in a fairly even handwriting. The printing on the rest of the form, however, slants every which way and ranges from large to small print.
Also, in the form where the dates of various events are listed, the form has only about 3 blank lines to enter info. Since the answers were lengthy, the entries there are all squeezed together, some being scrawled through, but significantly, the dates are all written out as to month (July 9, July 10). Yet on the signature line, which has LOTS of room to write the date, Ms. Duley used only numbers for day, month, year. Makes me really wonder - did she print the answers in the form, or did someone else (perhaps a clerk at the courthouse) take down her verbal answers and then shove the sheet in front of her to date and sign?
If it turns out that a clerk wrote down the answers, then the many questions about Ms. Duley’s credibility (or, I should say, the questions based on spellings) would be moot.
It would be helpful were you to give us your reasons for this conclusion. Otherwise it is
your undocumented assertions/speculations against their undocumented assertions. If we
inveigh–and we do inveigh–against their unacceptable standards of proof, it behooves us
to better back up our would-be countervailing assertions.
I would never sign a legal document that looked like that one if it had been prepared by a court officer or clerk. I would insist on re-writing it in my own hand, or have it typed up. She knew she was involved in the big-time at this point, or so she claimed.
Primrose, one cannot purchase Tylenol with Codeine over-the-counter in the USA.
Let me make clear - I am no way saying the equipment was not used in the way the leakers suggest. My concern is that we are assuming the suggestion is correct, when it really is quite weak incidental evidence.
Like saying “there’s a pine bark beetle that just dropped on the sidewalk. Oh, hum, there’s a pine tree way up on that mountain, must be the source,” while ignoring the 15 pine trees in three gardens on the street.
Admittedly, I’ve been away from the field for years. I did, formerly, work as a clinical lab scientist, using dried sera and pathogens. I am not at all convinced that one specific piece of equipment — one that has not been held in a forensic chain-of-custody situation where all original parts (or parts that date to a certain usage) have been retained — can be so identified as the specific one used for a specific event. In particular, there are a number of components in the process which are disposable. Unless those components can be matched with components from the same manufacturing batches, resultant comparisons can only say “this batch we made matches closer than that other batch we made on the other equipment.”
Rather like saying a monkey is a closer match to a human than is a trilobyte. True statement, but not particularly enlightening.
“Suicide” my arse! Never saw anything to make me believe that story, and I looked and looked. Does not compute.
Have dugg it long since, Nahant. Glad to be of help. Baby,I’m on a roll with digging. Having seen the light, I dig digging ;-)
The local Frederick paper reported that Dr. Ivins frequently walked to work and elsewhere because it was helpful for his back pain. This is hearsay, but was reportedly stated by a neighbor whose name was given in the article, and is evidence for some kind of chronic pain.
Tylenol 3 (tylenol/codeine) is an extremely common script for pain.
I would add one additional piece of information that I find interesting and gotten from Glen Greenwald:
Richard Cohen of the Washington Post was warned to take Cipro BEFORE the Anthrax attacks began. http://www.salon.com/opinion/g.....d-updateF7
Both Cohen and Ross know the “government officials” who passed along the details of this story. Ross was told by four separate sources about the so-called Bentonite connection. Cohen and others were warned to take Cipro. And as Greenwald has pointed out, since (or IF) the Anthrax was sent from Ft. Detrick, these people are not “sources;” they are fabricators and liars and must be exposed. (Ibid.)
What I waa getting at here was my supposition that a man allegedly under mandated treatment for hard drug “problems” would not likely be prescribed opiates. But, upon further reflection, I see that there are many loopholes and he could obtain such by any number of means. Supposedly his pharmacy would have a record restricting his access, but these systems are really fallible.
Examples: since electronic medical records came to be, I have discovered some serious errors in mine. Such as I am claimed to have a disease which only women can have, men lacking the target organ! Or allergies are misstated, such that I can, on the basis of the errant records, be prescribed things dangerous to my health and life.
New Jane a couple of flights upstairs calling on ABC to release what they know about the Anthrax
The case against Dr. Ivins is circumstantial at best. What is increasingly clear is that the FBI is attempting not very ably to manipulate the press into thinking otherwise. Just as it seems to have manipulated Jean Duley into creating the public record that led to Ivins’ temporarily being taken off the street, and the loss or suspension of his security clearance and, hence, his job.
If you have enough to do the job, you don’t do it this way. If you haven’t enough evidence, you don’t do it this way. If all you want is to cover your own and your boss’ bureaucratic backsides, and you think you can get away with it, you try to do it this way, and hope that no one will notice long enough to exact liability for your having done so.
Even if Dr. Ivins was involved in the anthrax murders, and the public record to date does not establish that, the FBI’s conduct in this case is atrocious. It seems to have learned nothing from the Jewell or Hatfill debacles except that with the passage of enough time, the public might forget earlier screw ups, allowing you to repeat them.
That’s a signature motif of this administration. Take Gitmo. How many of us, innocent but imprisoned, abused and tortured for years, would emerge with grateful, warm feelings in our heart for our captors? If Hoovervilles were President Hoovers’ caricatured bequest to America, secret prisons, torture and botched, politicized prosecutions will be George W. Bush’s.
One possible interpretation (of many) is that it was Tylenol/codeine that was the original problem landing Ivins in therapy. Neighbors seemed to think his back pain was chronic, so he could have suffered for years, and had continuing prescriptions for the product. And in those years, he could have become addicted to the codeine, needing ever larger doses to get the same relief formerly obtained. Not too unusual a process, there - codeine is one of the most common prescription opoid addictions.
Ms. Duley’s prior claim to fame (before the death of Ivins) was the June 29 article in the Frederick newpaper where she hawked Suboxone, a drug which is used to treat opoid dependencies.
Am not saying Dr. Ivins had been prescribed Suboxone (we just don’t know that from info released so far), only that he likely was in a group of other patients with opoid addictions (such as codeine), and could easily have gotten there as a result of the increased FBI pressure and thus increased referred physical pain.
Cleanth: It requires a prescription which can easily be gotten from a dentist for a toothache or gum infection, a doctor for a back sprain. It’s not uncommon to have some on the shelf even after having been treated for one or more of these extremely common ailments. 800 mg tablets, 21 tabs is what the dentist prescribes.
I’ve looked all over the net to try to discover just how much would be required to kill a man Ivins’ size. I do not know. Do you?
What’s missing from this wheel of chaos is Duley’s relationship with her practice supervisors, Ivins’ other doctors and the FBI. The presumed sources for much of what she would have known about Ivins (in addition to whatever she learned in her six months of “group and individual counseling”). All are staying mum and out of the limelight, as would any professional who sees several freight trains of liability converging on them. Not hard to see why the FBI would have chosen Duley to create the public record against Ivins. Have they used one patsy to get another?
Whether or not the FBI identified a party involved in the anthrax murders, this is a reckless, desperate, panicked way to investigate serious crime. If this is how it investigates possibly its most prominent case, WTF is the FBI doing with all the others?
Good question and why does the media evidence seem to rest on the social worker Duley, who may have some credibility problems? And then there’s that sorority crap that Glenn Greenwald debunks.
Why are we seeing more character assination allegations that prove false than honest to goodness evidence?
Good point. Ivins was released from Shepard Pratt, no longer “a danger to himself or others.” And then he commits suicide. Where’s that Doctor Irvin who supposedly told Duley that Ivins was a “sociopath,” which apparently is a diagnosis that has been discarded in favor of personality disorder terms? The only one yakking seems to be Duley. I feel sorry for Ivins and his friends and family.
Ms. Duley is the shining object. She is not the focus of the investigation. She should not be the focus of our comment.
We are searching for three beasts in this camera safari: 1) The tiger(s) involved in plotting and carrying out the anthrax attacks. 2) The elephants, the law enforcement and intelligence bureaux that have failed for seven years to build a credible case against the likely perpetrators. 3) The horned beast that is the government that negligently or recklessly operates bio-weapons research programs of questionable legality.
It’s that latter beast, we mutely learn, that attacked and killed our neighbors through its incompetence or reckless disregard for our safety.
We were not attacked by little brown foreign people “who hate our liberty”. We were not attacked by rogue states. We were attacked by rogue Americans with top science and security clearance backgrounds, working at secret government facilities. We were attacked by a rogue system so assured of its own invulnerability, that it stopped watching the store and allowed our “secret weapons” to be used on us.
When you write that the evidence against him suggests he was involved, you cite the dryer. But Greenwald notes that he needed the dryer for his normal work, so your best instance of evidence against him is no evidence at all.
Thus far, there is no case whatsoever against Ivins. The innuendo and hearsay isn’t even innuendo and hearsay about his being involved. It’s just innuendo about his begin a little odd. Frankly, they haven’t even done a good job of proving him odd, let alone guilty.
Even when the FBI develops a strong, credible case against likely perpetrators of the anthrax attacks, what can the government look forward to at trial and on appeal?
It will have to submit its evidence and witnesses to critical cross examination by the defense. It will have to submit to searching questions about the existence, purposes and management of secret bio-weapons facilities which gave us both the weapons and the perpetrators who attacked us. And failed management and security clearance procedures that allowed it.
It will have to submit to questions about alternative theories of who committed the crime, alternative possible suspects and why they were discounted. And questions about the lengthy and inconclusive investigation to date.
The anthrax attacks case is the last one this administration or its FBI ever wants to see the inside of a court room. Suicide and “case closed” accomplish that admirably.
Let’s hope that Rep. Holt is serious about launching a special investigation into this case. As with the torture, secret prisons, the Gimot trials and illegal domestic spying, it will be like looking into this administration’s eyes and seeing its soul. If Dubya can do that with Putin, surely his public are allowed to do that with his administration.
Hi Primrose!
Here is my chance to appreciate your lovely moniker.
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I’d be shocked, shocked if the WaPo buried this lede:
Gee. Wonder if her buddies in the motorcycle gang just let Jean bogart her heroin stash, or if she ever shared a dose or two?
And I wonder what the Federal statute of limitations is for distribution?
Oh well: I’m sure she was never around anyone who trafficked.
Duley may be a “shining object,” but right now the media is citing her as the source of the most “damning evidence” that Ivins was capable of being the anthrax killer. In lieu of compelling linkage to the crime, we’ve got character assassination. It’s got holes and so does the rest.
The tiger, the elephant and the horned beast are the obvious. In other words, I disagree Duley is important.
Hey don’t make fun of the “expert witness.”
Kirk Murphy what do you make of this poor guy Ivins? (I am assuming he is innocent until proven guilt although after Hatfill, Padilla, et al . . . and with “case closed” and all . . .) Duley said Ivin’s doctor used the word “sociopath.” Somehow I doubt it. Anyway, shouldn’t she be using personality disorder terms instead, I mean, as a “professional.”?
That could make a “meek” man crash.
And now another man is dead because of FBI incompetence. I can’t countenance that most of all.