Here’s the kind of writing that can get your comment moderated right out of a FireDogLake comment thread: guns and suicide thoughts about a Presidential candidate and his campaign team:
The real question is what all of this might mean for a McCain presidency. The list of troubling portents is growing long: repeated campaign staff upheavals reflecting poor management skills; abrupt reversals on big issues like tax cuts and relations with Russia (where he was superhawk one day and superdove the next); shameless pandering on a gas-tax holiday that even his own economic advisers think is a joke; confused handling of Social Security that annoys all sides of the debate; bogus charges (e.g., Obama is causing high gas prices, Obama didn’t visit wounded soldiers because he couldn’t take the press) that undermine his integrity; and an angry, bunker mentality among aides that one GOP operative, fearing excommunication from Team McCain if identified, describes as "lacking only a Luger and a cyanide pill."
Lovely imagery from your anonymous source, Mr Alter.
Is it time for a blogger ethics panel?
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Teddy!
teddy!
Hiya Christine!
aloha, Teddy!
Suzanne, how’s the POD?
CT!
still has room :) sure was nice to see ya today teddy ((( )))
Teddy! From what I can see of the McCain campaign, I would say that Alter found an optimist.
Hi, Teddy. I said the other day that I thought the McC staff had given up and it seems they have. How awful – teehee.
Y’know, I am happy to see any Villager come into the light on McCain’s dishonor, but it’s just ridiculous to write the way he did about the campaign. The anonymous quote could very easily have been left out, and readers could still get the point that it was a bunker at McCain HQ.
I don’t think we need to welcome them with open arms just because they are realizing McCain is screwing up; standards of journamalizm still apply.
How many assisted ya, Suz?
Suzanne, it was great to see you today too, and all the firepups who came to pack the POD. Still chowing on dolma here.
Unity `08 !!11
oh shit.. i forgot to count.. teddy, how many?
Do you think Alter really found an optimist, or is this a “composite character” a la Joke Line?
Hey Teddy!
It scares me to death to have a vindictive, paranoid, militaristic old man with his finger on the trigger. Most of the press seem to want him there.
Can’t you just hear him saying, “That little MFer Amawhosewhatsis made a joke about my thinning hair at the UN. Who does he think he is? I’ll show that little bastard. I’ll bomb his country”, and there you go.
Scares me to death.
All just to preserve a bunch of greedy jerks tax cuts.
It isn’t gonna be pretty when McCain starts lashing out, that’s for sure.
Wow, that many…? ;-)
Oh dear. Well, the voters will have a better picture of what’s in store for us. If the corrupt crony incompetents in the press would report it.
Latest flash from our ever alert media is an ABC blog special comparing the Obama and McCain planes. Obama goes first with pics, of course. McCain’s equally swank digs are summarized at the bottom with news that the BMOC McCain won’t hang out with his groupies no more.
The vague impression is that the Obama is acting like an up*tty ******, and McCain has, like, become totally uncool with the nerd acolytes.
If other cheerful news: attempts to pass an election law failed again in Iraq:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/n…..l_bomb.php
Kirkuk, oil and central government control to protect Arab and Turkomen status are the hang ups. From the juvenile gassing I hear in the US press, I guess the ONLY thing we can do to fix it is send in special forces to commit violence on the legislature. Or maybe a drone could bomb them.
This is a decadent and degraded country, politically at least.
both stories are at TPM.
Aside from my feeble attempt at snark, I really can’t tell. As you point out our political media seem to have few standards and no real sense of responsibility.
i think 10 or so were here ct.. didn’t get an exact count
I am a little afraid that he may go into full meltdown mode before the convention and be replaced. God knows who they would choose. I mean that was the most uninspiring bunch I have ever seen in a presidential election.
Imagine an even more vindictive and politicized federal bureaucracy under McCaint!
Must’ve made for quick work then…!
ewwwwwww
shrudder
dayamit, that’s gonna give me nightmares
Hi Teddy! I’ve been stuck outside the door until Suzanne got the magic keys and let me in. Thanks Suz! Your snack will be just for you tonight!
No joke.
Turn our cities into Baghdad with walls and even higher level of ‘observation’?
still have a bunch to do… have to be out by the 13th and still have stuff in my storage here and i have stuff in storage at jen’s old storage about an hour away i gotta get.
One thing about that statement is freakin hilarious, A Luger.
Dude, that is so 1945.
The cyanide pill is just a freaking bonus , what, ya too busy watching old spy movies and these anachronistic methods to keep up with the times?
Idjit.
Hope y’all had a good time at the little cabin in the Redwoods today.
glad you were able to finally get in tex
i’m stuffed from that peach blueberry pie nahant made – share mine with everyone, please.
The reign of Blackwater.
I think all the fun will be happening outside the Xcel center! I’d read somewhere that a whole lot of protesters are planning marches…!
From what I read they expect more outside the convention center than inside. 8-)
Waitaminute, maybe he saw this and went all nostalgic and shit.
Yup.
Terrorizing your own citizenry for fun and profit.
dugg, thanks to thomasmuffin for opening it
Glad you were able to join us, dear.
So McCain’s going to Sturgis tomorrow.
Yee-haw.
Well, now you’re making ME want to get moderated out of FDL. Let me try:
1. McCane is too old to be president
2. McCane is too stupid to be president
3. McCane hates American law, people, and reputation
Am I out?
Hi folks,
While it seems that the McCain team is on the verge of suicide, the polls are not completely reassuring for the Obama camp. It seems that a lot of “low information” or just plain “could never vote for a Black” voters could put Johnny in the White House in spite of his shockingly poor campaign.
On the other hand, after reading Ian’s incredibly depressing post last night (A Vicious Downward Spiral, or How This Economy Is Going To Play Out: Revisited) I wonder if we want a Democrat in the WH when the shit hits the fan. If Ian’s predictions come to pass, the next President will probably be lucky to survive (politically) a single term.
Seems like we’re screwed no matter who “wins” the election.
Can anybody say something optimistic to cheer things up?
Where is Sturgis? Should I have known this – some place famous?
Now that should be interesting. Says a whole lot about who they think his base is. Any sane campaing would not let their candidate, especially one as loopy as McCain, anywhere near Sturgis.
Pics/YouTubes of the festivities? Oh Suz, I don’t know how I’ll replace the pics in my mind of you in the cottage.
ice cream for everyone
Honey, please.
Lurking Mod, take a break.
Nah. They’ll just make you get out of the lake and sit on the deck for 5 minutes.
yummy – thanks
Infamous is more like it. It is a massive biker rally in South Dakota noted for wild excesses of just about any kind you can think of. The Hells Angels just stopped off here for a few days en route.
ice cream woohoo!!!
Sturgis Bike Week in the Black Hills?
Oh, that’s where all the bikers were headed from here in town the other day.
make that “headed to.” sheesh.
And McC is going to be there at the same time? The mind boggles.
We don’t want you moderated out, dear — please don’t talk about killing candidates or their campaigns like Jonathan did!
I had a looooong talk with Mother yesterday; she’s a number of years older than John McCain (a number I’d better keep secret, I suppose). She thinks old people are terrified of John McCain because they know best how their faculties have changed as they’ve aged. She wants to make an ad with old people in it, talking about McCain’s age.
I told her I’d think about it. What do you think about this idea?
i like it teddy
Cassie is back in Texas, but her luggage is not. Seems she is not alone.
A very pertinent point, Teddy!
Not sure I can cheer you up unless you are a Californian…. it seems like Dianne Feinstein may want to be the next Governor:
I’m not sure that we want to fire up the pissed off, aggrieved elderly vote. After all, they’ve got nothing better to do on a Tuesday. But honey, I love your Mamma.
OT, but I promised Mountain Man at C&L that I would pass along his message.
Reagan was a CELEBRITY.
Schwartzenegger was a CELEBRITY!
Why is John McCain hating celebrities (when he invokes Reagan’s name at every turn)?
Oh, you have got to be kidding me!
Please, Please, Please, I want massive media coverage of him with two bare breasted, big titted biker chicks in thongs drinking shots off his bald head.
Did she fly AA?
spew
me too
Heh, that would be hilarious!
He is going special for the occasion from what I can tell. Really, really, fucking stupid, if you ask me.
yep!
You guys got links? (Protesters)
Meanwhile, in a deep, dark bunker at McCain HQ…
I think they should nominate Dick Cheney.
unbelievable. should be interesting. Why is he doing this – does anyone know?
Here ya go, Loo Hoo…!
OK, Bustednuckles – back from my break.
hey jacqrat, glad to see you got home ok. i am so glad i got to meet you today :)
Teddy!! Suz, mmmmmm, nahant’s peach blueberry pie? Any left?
How’s this for a paranoid fantasy: His feeble-mindedness and flip-flops, dog whistles, pig whistles and general cupidity are all a big act, part of the plan. As his attacks on Obama get worse and worse and the nattering nabobs are documenting the campaign’s final feiry meltdown he suddenly, very publicly roars back to life, fires all his advisers and announces that he, the real John “Maverick” McCain, is back.
No more handlers, no more negative ads, now it’s all the real deal John McCain that everyone once knew and loved. He’ll apologize for what Schmidt and Davis made him do against his better judgement and vow to be a better person, heaping praise and admiration on Obama. And the nabobs will natter about his character and maverickness and isn’t that just like McCain he’s such an honorable guy, we knew it all along.
That’s my nightmare scenario.
wish I was still a Californian… I lived in the Bay Area for a few years playing in the 6th Army Band, stationed at The Presidio of SF. Life was good, except that I was in the Army.
Anything that would get DiFi out of the Senate would be okay with me; she hasn’t been the best rep for SF voters.
Or better yet, feeding him shots from between their tits.
Yes. The minute Obama is elected, he will be honest with the American people about what to expect and why.
This tanker can still be turned around.
cindy won’t let that happen
Here is one.
I love it when Busted calls me honey.
disclaimer…it’s never happened before, but I think he’s got a thing for me.
Hey, just looking out for ya. labor laws an’ all that.
LOL!
Honey?, You are a Darlin’!
I’m going to raise a contrary possibility-among the bikers I know, there is a strong disaffected vet constituency…a lot of nam vets who will embrace McCain, as well as an awful lot of pro-God, pro-gun, hard-ass Republicans…and they may treat McCain like a rock star. This may indeed be a stupid move on the part of his campaign; but it may also be brilliant. A daring move, either way. Politically, this is risky for McCain, but it could also have a real payoff for him.
Interesting to watch, for sure.
hi suz! real nice to meet you all and have some of that chili and salad and chicken and PIE. I lOVE PIE.
I have given up trying to figure out why McCain is doing anything at this point. He and his campaign started out the primaries OK, if rather uninspiring, but have gotten progressively more incomprehensible. They seem to be having a slow motion melt down.
I want to see the Paultards march in force.
http://wonkette.com/401074/you…..oza-photos
me too!
lmao, get real. McCain without his wonk pool?
Half a dozen posters and hundreds of commenters here haven’t sorted through the policy of the last eight years and you think McCain will spark eloquence?
I wonder how the rightwing fundies will like their guy standing around with a bunch of bikers who have terrible reputations. Some of the biker gangs are not too nice.
Obama spoke at the Brandenberg Gate and drew a quarter million people. McCain goes to Sturgis and addresses a hundred thousand.
See? They’re the same.
I said it was a fantasy.
I think it’s a good idea. Your mom is not alone, the McCane type-aged people I know are worried about it. If there is an ad, it needs to be VERY respectful of the elderly, perhaps using the My Generation YouTube juxtaposed against a young group of singers. The My generation song is a wonderful memory for a lot of hipsters, but could lure in lots of older folks too.
See? You ask me about something of which I know NADA!
As Billmon (Yay, he’s back!) pointed out the other day over at the Great Orange Satan, McCain has always been this way. All the “straight talkin’ honorableness” was just a press fed myth. Sort of like Buffalo Bill.
lol. yeah, yeah, ok :)
Everyone be nice to Suz tonight. Or Marcy’s teammates will come over and tell you what-for, and such.
I think the key word there is “spark”
That would be his only two functioning synapses… and a weak one at that.
They don’t really like him that much anyway. He is not crazy enough or at least not in the right way.
i think jacqrat is talking to you, lurk
lol! wait. wait! … I think i saw one fire!!!11
Thanks Loo Hoo!
But I think Obama needs to start telling folks the bad news now. And he needs to point his finger at the culprits. This sort of negativity will be bad for him in the short run politically, but in the long term will serve him well if he is elected. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better, no matter who is elected. He should be honest now (and be sure to blame the crooks and liars who have screwed us all.) Not an easy assignment, but if he’s not up to it, maybe he shouldn’t get the job?
More and more I am beginning to think that John McCain is either senile or insane. Now his Moses ad is spreading the idea that John is hinting that Obama is the anti-Christ. As far as I am concerned, if we get McCain in with his unstable way of thinking who knows what will happen. It cannot be good. I think the real anti-Christ is going to McCain going nuts and shooting off all the nuclear weapons.
By the way, I am really ticked that my job prohibits me from posting while at work. I simply cannot sign on during the day. bummer.
false alarm
Yeah. My ass is still smarting from the stomping Marcy’s crew gave me.
Beware pups!
The reason, IMO, McCain is going to Sturgis is to create footage of McCain addressing a vast, cheering crowd. The event is being used essentially as scenery for McCain.
I love the Moses ad!
I see yer point. Imagine what Richard Pearl and Barbara Bush, not to mention Dick, “Burnout” Cheney would have to say when he invited them to Brunch.
What did I miss???
I honestly think it is early stage Alzheimer’s – just like Reagan.
dayam… that bites, capt
welcome to the lake – or at least the nighttime side of the lake – i’m not recognizing your name so if i’m wrong and just insulted a long time commenter, please accept my apology in advance.
if you have any questions, please feel free to ask
ok, now tha i got a few digs at mccain under my belt, did i mention Believe!
Hope he is good a dodging flying beer bottles.
Oh, btw Suz, I have never seen you looking more lovely *g*
;~P
Is there a link, Lurk? I missed that one. I hate it when I miss stuff. :)
Marcy has a crew? Marcy’s crew stomps Lurk?
McCain is not Abel .
Ding Ding Ding!
Bush has been making sure whoever is next up is going to be buried.
He doesn’t care which one it is.
But aren’t there some Vietnam veteran bikers who hate McCain? Isn’t that politically risky? I’d love to see one of them call him dishonorable (and **jangle keys** at him)
But he jawbones like an ass.
No links (at least I hope there are none). I had to stop and tie a shoe, and BLAM!
Element of surprise, don’t you know…
Isn’t that the way of the Republic?
fork, who took my picture! don’t make me stop this blog, young man
Now, now, that’s not fair teasing like that, Lurk.
young?
please.
rofl, wouldn’t cha know he’d call it a flower. ;)
That’s an easy one…it goes, “My friends, as the Bible says, it’s important to reach out to the sinners, so I know you’ll understand why, in the spirit of ministering, I had to attend that alcohol-soaked festival of sin and debauchery. It was disgusting, but I gritted my teeth and delivered my message-and I think I got through to them! I am leading them toward the light my friends, and they will join our movement!”
And then they all nod and open their wallets.
…but i do have pictures for sale
dubya dubya dubya dot suzpikz dot bong
;~P
A large portion of the real bikers do not vote at all. Sturgis does, however, attract a lot of weekend warriors and wannabes as well.
Hate to hear ya got blind sided by some of EW’ fans,
I ain’t a bit afraid to say that lady’s mind causes me to question why I am allowed to share the same oxygen,.
Have you all seen the three-camera video at JedReport from McCain’s Friday presser? Wow, does he get stumped.
turns out lurk is scared of rugby players teddy.. who knew?
The titty pictures cost more, see my associate.
A lot of them can’t vote ’cause they are convicted felons.
Buckle up, folks…
Hey!
See Bustednuckles @ 128…
Mommybrain, I see what you mean.
I picture him in pea soup green tights and leotards. The poor guy will have a cape that’s cottage cheese colored with the pea soup green M for McCain on it. As he flies, many people see the M as a W.
slàinte y’all
Well, hell. In that case, he should have been here this weekend for the Annual Testy Fest. Could have met with the Angels and other bikers there as well
g’nite dr bong
lame reloads :(
Mods, tell the techies to make the lean n mean >:]
Fork all the graphics, just make it one column, no gruff!
Depends on which state you are in.
i was always told to get back on that bike when i fell off lurk. ya just gotta take on them rugby players again and this time win
My friends, show me your white t*ts.
-John McFuckingoldandnuts
i was banking some news, it should be better now that i have stopped… let me know if it is still reloading slow tw3k
Having a shot of Tullamore Dew in yer honor.
*McAngry addressing the Sturgis rally.
-G
He might have a bit of trouble with that when he gets home after what the wife paid fer hers.
Na, it’s just all that stuff in the right column. Not so bad with the ajax reload but a pita when ya gotta reload the whole dam page.
I’m a plain text kinda guy. like ma html clean and fast.
LOL !!!
OMG, I think the Ron Paul supporters (and there are tons around these parts) are far closer to Obama than they are to McCane in many ways. Hence, Jane’s Strange Bedfellows.
glad u laft’d :)
dayammit, busted, i had just poured myself a fresh cup of coffee
Nah, McC and Cindy will roll out on stage on a Harley and Cindy will get off the back in head-to-toe leather…and they’ll love it. Never mind that he rode the bike all of 20 feet.
Reminds me of the joke the old Seminole man told as we passed the Pizza Hut. “Damn, lets go in there! I wanna get me some of those pissi hatki! Just like the white man, he’ll sell anything! Pissi hatki (pronounced “pizzee hutkee”) means “white tit” in Muskogee (the Seminole and Creek language).
with pearls and a demin pantsuit underneath – and those leathers are designer and probably cost more than the bike
Obama won’t attach on these issues now. When he needs it, Obama has lots of ammunition.
I guess extra cheese was outta the question?
I hope cindy rolls in like the borg queen.
Que paso?
Have it your way! ;-)
I’ve wondered if the repubs choose Mc as the sacrificial lamb, knowing what is coming down the pike (severe recession, war, etc), so a dem will be blamed for the troubles. Seems like a tactic the repubs would use – these guys do plan ahead (look how they have stacked the life-long judicial judges). They will make the race look good, via their MSM buddies, but they know that Mc will loose to Obama.
But then maybe they want the POTUS position, so when the sh– does hit the fan, they can call on EMERGENCY
Sure he’ll attach. Just like he has done for every corporate interest.
That really is a scary resemblance.
Walking funny for a few days is all. No biggie.
Yeah, but what’s the point? His place in history gets darker by the minute. We all know they are doing all possible to push the consequences of his misadministration into the next term. So George doesn’t catch the blame? OMG, what fools believe he wasn’t the problem?
lol! sure is!
I ain’t done laughing yet.
Good one.
Images like that make me wonder about the effect of a level headed and distinguished woman like Gov. Sebelius as a VP candidate.
Sturgis just seems like a mistake. Kinda like Obama coming to SF Pride (which he didn’t)
:)
got cut off -hit wrong key – continued
EMERGENCY FEMA rules and take over the country in a military type coup.
Food for thought.
i worry about this too
I like Sibelius.
The World’s oldest joke…
glad somebody does.
I know you’re right, but will the regular folks believe the “ammunition” after they’ve been foreclosed?
Actually much worse than Pride. Most people who would be seriously offended by that are unlikely to vote for Obama anyway. McCain seriously risks alienating important segments of the Republican base.
In all seriousness, What difference is it going to make?
The no good motherfucker has done his damage!
The biggest transfer of wealth in the history of man!
Start putting some food away and watch what comes.
Fuck, i’m so fucking sick of the fucking presidential fucking race already.
Fuck em both!
I meant attack.
Or Alice Krige in Ghost Story? After plastic surgery?
angry b, welcome to the lake – if you have any questions, please ask
and if i am mistaken in not recognizing your name (it happens) and you are not a new commenter, please accept my apology – no insult intended
He’s being all cryptic about it, Loo Hoo.
i know
I’ve been thinking about Sebelius a lot today in the context of the state of the McCain campaign and its negative tack. Going negative on her simply would explode in his face -more than anyone I can imagine. Otoh, take someone like Biden or Clark, even Hillary, and the negative attacks would be more syntonic with their personalities. Per the inferences in the original post up top, without the negative, the fake it til you make it McCain doesn’t have a leg to stand on.
.
oh yeah, Repubs are willing to sacrifice McCain to prove the failure of “not conservative enough” to the base. Only problem is, what if Obama appoints a real Attorney General? (I am really hoping for P. Fiitzgerald.) Could create a whole lot of problems for the Republican brand if people found out what’s been goin’ on…
Marylander alert: Freshman Congressman John Sarbanes (Third District) will chat at WaPo0 tomorrow at 10am eastern. Questions accepted anytime.
Unity `08!!!111
Conventional Wisdom Now!!!111
The Veep needs to be able to take it to McCain, though, in a Webb- or Wes-like way. Not sure Sibelius can do that, or would. Obama needs to stay above the fray while his Veep engages the nasty McCain. It’ll make Obama look presidential and McCain look, well, even less so.
What can we do with Seymore Butts?
Get your substance free, pundit approved pap right here! Guaranteed not to make you think or to actually accomplish anything!
See More Butts?
and that’s the truth. PTHEEW (raspberry )
But I was really hoping for some optimism. (see earlier posts)
Pretty damn hard to find any isn’t it?
thanks anyway Busted.
Syrian general reportedly assassinated. Was reportedly liason to Hezbollah.
-G
Muzzy, my dear, whomever Obama chooses as a running mate will be tarred and feathered in cunning ways. Nobody is safe uin the democratic party.
I saw a mealy mouthed dead trout thrown out that there would be investigationsif there were some blindingly obvious violations of the law.
Yeah, right. Fuck youy, I am going back to screaming at my monitor and drinking heavily.
Obama is really steering right, I can accept that because he has to get a consensus and a majority,.
Kiss my motherfucking ass if you can’t find four hundred or more legal charges against the Bush administration, in Braille.
gotta link?
Well, MD does see more butts, no?
Linky.
-G
Sounds like Hillary is the candidate by that criteria.
this kind does
The point about the VP taking it to McCain, or not, is the crux of it. I think Obama can and should do that while still being the ‘excitement’ of the ticket.
the two choices are: pummel the former POW McCain as he simply tries to keep his chin up, or draw him out with decency to expose his weaknesses. Sebelius calmly shaming Mccain for race baiting and general bullshit would be a riot.
I’m no particular fan of Alter, but it’s great to see that someone in the mainstream press is willing to note the that king is buck naked.
“
The Saudi-owned pan-Arab daily Al-Hayat quoted “informed sources” in London as saying that a senior Syrian officer had been found dead.
“The circumstances of the incident are not clear,”
Crab bait either way.
Fading fast here. Spent the morning hiking up here and now I’m beat. Take care and enjoy the snark.
My God! How long did it take you to find that one?
more eye candy – g’nite dr no pause dick
thank you
Oh, my!
i’ve front paged it over at my place before and it is memorable yanno (laughing)
Good night, DD. Your photos are wonderful.
pups are wired tonight…. kewl!!
I tossed her name out there amongst some wingers and the only criticism was that she vetoed a conceal carry gun bill in KS. Last time I checked, there are a lot more women than NRA members. But yeah, the tarring will be attempted full bore, it’s just that I can’t think of many where it could appear clearly inappropriate to all and backfire.
dammit Busted, you yellin’ at me?
I agree with everything you said, I occasionally scream at my monitor while drinking heavily and am well aware of the crimes of Bushco.
Good night from the Great Swamp, Dr. Dick.
LOl, Dude!
No, I am not yelling at you.
Sorry if you thought I was.
music upstairs
This will be a democratic wipeout if Obama listens to the right people. I have no indication that he won’t!
.
If ya put most of BushCo in prison, where they belong, we could release a whole bunch of Tokers!
well then, what the hell do I need to do to provoke you? *g*
ya mean midnight smokers?
Heh Heh Heh, Lol, LMAO!
BWAAAAAHAAHAAHAAHAAA!
Y’all have a nice evening.
and you too. G’nite folks.
Gnite man, seriously, sweet dreams .
C’mone back, we need every single voice we can get.
You are a much needed and valued one.
Thanks.
Nicest thing anybody’s typed at me in years.
Now, to look upstairs or crash?
I’ll sleep when I’m dead.