Comments on: The Window Before Climate Change Closes Down Our Kids’ Future: 100 Months, Or Less?

By: Primrose

Primrose — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:18:45 +0000

I’d like to point out that whatever else China may or may not have done, she did limit her population to one child per family. If she had not, we would have faced this danger much sooner, and we would be overwhelmed by now and George Bush would still be in office.

We have a lot to thank her for.

By: colin

colin — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:04:35 +0000

Thanks for the post. It’s really scary to think this might be the future for our kids. It’s also amazing how this has so quickly gone from being a distant possibility to a short-term reality.

We wrote about this at PIC Current just last week. http://current.pic.tv/2008/07/.....te-change/

Change can still happen, but the window is closing fast! Anyone up for a swim in Times Square?

By: DWBartoo

DWBartoo — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:01:30 +0000

If we keep on as we are, then 99% is not only possible, it’s virtually garanteed.

But you have touched upon a central truth, nonetheless.

Either we will deliberately choose to make the necessary changes or by doing little or nothing, the ‘choice’ will be made for us.

One can be optimistic either way. Or optimistic regarding both ‘possibilities’, at the same time.

By: CarolynU

CarolynU — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:55:39 +0000

Thanks. Back at you.

By: Oval12345678akaJamesKSayre

Oval12345678akaJamesKSayre — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:54:31 +0000

When I was a kid, many, many years ago, magazines and newspapers would sometimes run stories about the next coming ice age… Apparently, they seem to be in a cycle of coming every 11,000 to 13,000 years, and we would seem to be about due…

Now a days, we worry about global warming. What gets me, is the fact that the main cause of the human destruction of the natural planet is due to our very large numbers (6,000,000,000 or so…) and the fact that we cannot be bothered to stop increasing our populations. Some forty years ago, the zero population growth (ZPG) made its debut in the magazines and newspapers. It was duly noted, but few folks heeded the call.

After the environmental movement got going in a big way in the 1970s, there was a group (the UN?) based in Rome, Italy, that published its findings in a paper called, “The Limits of the Earth. “Basically, it said that humans could not go on endlessly increasing its population numbers without serious consequences. Again, this was noted and filed away and basically ignored, except by a few highly conscious individuals and organizations.

Now, not only are we faced with global warming as a consequence of our human activities, we may also be faced with “peak oil.” We need to reduce our numbers by from 90% to 99% if the rest of the animals and plants on this earth are to have any chance to survive…

By: DWBartoo

DWBartoo — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:53:54 +0000

Yes, we have to go through ‘here’ to get ‘there’, Carolyn.

Always a pleasure to ’see’ you, BTW.

By: CarolynU

CarolynU — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:50:14 +0000

So true. But I suspect we’re all going to be getting used to a lot more “discomfort”.

Still, DWB, I believe that, could we see the big picture, we’d understand that “it’s all good” - as the kids say these days.

By: DWBartoo

DWBartoo — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:46:04 +0000

grasp on ‘reality’.

By: DWBartoo

DWBartoo — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:44:50 +0000

But, but …”inertia … delusion …ignorance” comprise the gist of what Murkans consider to be their ‘rightful’ comfort and energy, a grasp on relity and ‘learning’ are not only hard ‘work’ but they would, inevitably lead to thangs changin’ … and that would be downright un-comfortable for a lot of the ‘most-comfortable’ the ‘haves’ and the ‘have-mores’ and that ain’t nuanced.

;~D

By: CarolynU

CarolynU — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:35:49 +0000

I’m just ranting.

Educating people is not ranting. Getting people to wake up is not ranting. And if it is, rant away. We need to break through the inertia, the delusion, the ignorance.