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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/real-leadership-is-needed-from-all-of-us/#comment-1562378</link>
		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christy:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Real Leadership Is Needed, From All Of Us&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[…]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is not an age for caution.  There is far too much work desperately needed on far too many fronts that have been deliberately neglected, shoved down, and utterly dismantled by the Republican anti-government success brigades.  What we need is leadership that pushes all of this work forward.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But we cannot wait for that leadership to come from anyone else.  If we do, we’ll be waiting an awfully long time, because most folks would rather sit back and keep their head down and hope that someone else will do the work for them.  Let’s not be those people.  We must be the leaders we wish to see, to work for the change we know we need…to push for the reform that must come.  The American dream is not simply that you accumulate things through increased wealth, and we need a big reminder of that.  The America I love gives all of us a chance to work toward the best for us all — because it is we, the people, for whom the government ought to be working.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And it is well past time for us to remind all of those in government of that fact.  Let’s spend some time this morning talking about how we want to do that… &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Trying.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Somehow I got myself elected to the board of directors of the local chapter (click the link and you’ll know what of), and coincidentally, yesterday we had &lt;a href=&quot;http://aclusac.org/node/103&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a situation where we had to take action to assure free speech rights of &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt;, and yes, that even includes the wingnuts&lt;/a&gt;. I got to the supervisors meeting too late (darn traffic) to speak but fortunately two of our fellow board members &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; get to speak and the draconian Bushlike proposal was rejected (woot!) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=095397463FE4B1EA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;youtubes here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Trying.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; really satisfying. There was the incident above, and just off the top of my head we intervened for a veterans (VFP) group to set up flags on Memorial Day in the State Capitol median in remembrance of &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; of the dead in Iraq; we’ve been working against a gang injunction in West Sac which was overly broad; two black longshoreman were falsely arrested for trespassing &lt;i&gt;at their job while on the clock&lt;/i&gt;;   working against the death penalty - which doesn’t mean we’re asking for all people convicted to go free; internet censorship on public computers in the public libraries; we’re working on public records requests on some local and state issues relevant to this area; and at least one FOIA with a certain Federal Agency, and other things which I’ll remember later tonight and kick myself for forgetting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re not waiting for a savior&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;—————————————–&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And BTW, thanks to Christy and Jane and all the other bloggers, and the mods, and the techies. And to emphasize &lt;i&gt;especially Jane&lt;/i&gt; for starting and maintaining this. I have only a small idea how much work it is to gather and disseminate info by contributing in my small way on two websites. What people tend to forget sometimes is that a new post goes up on this website pretty much every 2 hours 24 hours a day, which is informational, educational, and much harder to do - entertaining. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks guys&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christy:</p>
<blockquote><p>Real Leadership Is Needed, From All Of Us</p>
<p>[…]</p>
<p>This is not an age for caution.  There is far too much work desperately needed on far too many fronts that have been deliberately neglected, shoved down, and utterly dismantled by the Republican anti-government success brigades.  What we need is leadership that pushes all of this work forward.</p>
<p>But we cannot wait for that leadership to come from anyone else.  If we do, we’ll be waiting an awfully long time, because most folks would rather sit back and keep their head down and hope that someone else will do the work for them.  Let’s not be those people.  We must be the leaders we wish to see, to work for the change we know we need…to push for the reform that must come.  The American dream is not simply that you accumulate things through increased wealth, and we need a big reminder of that.  The America I love gives all of us a chance to work toward the best for us all — because it is we, the people, for whom the government ought to be working.</p>
<p>And it is well past time for us to remind all of those in government of that fact.  Let’s spend some time this morning talking about how we want to do that… </p>
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<p>Trying.</p>
<p>Somehow I got myself elected to the board of directors of the local chapter (click the link and you’ll know what of), and coincidentally, yesterday we had <a href="http://aclusac.org/node/103" rel="nofollow">a situation where we had to take action to assure free speech rights of <i>everyone</i>, and yes, that even includes the wingnuts</a>. I got to the supervisors meeting too late (darn traffic) to speak but fortunately two of our fellow board members <i>did</i> get to speak and the draconian Bushlike proposal was rejected (woot!) <a href="http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=095397463FE4B1EA" rel="nofollow">youtubes here</a>.</p>
<p>Trying.</p>
<p>This <i>is</i> really satisfying. There was the incident above, and just off the top of my head we intervened for a veterans (VFP) group to set up flags on Memorial Day in the State Capitol median in remembrance of <i>all</i> of the dead in Iraq; we’ve been working against a gang injunction in West Sac which was overly broad; two black longshoreman were falsely arrested for trespassing <i>at their job while on the clock</i>;   working against the death penalty &#8211; which doesn’t mean we’re asking for all people convicted to go free; internet censorship on public computers in the public libraries; we’re working on public records requests on some local and state issues relevant to this area; and at least one FOIA with a certain Federal Agency, and other things which I’ll remember later tonight and kick myself for forgetting.</p>
<p>We’re not waiting for a savior</p>
<p>—————————————–</p>
<p>And BTW, thanks to Christy and Jane and all the other bloggers, and the mods, and the techies. And to emphasize <i>especially Jane</i> for starting and maintaining this. I have only a small idea how much work it is to gather and disseminate info by contributing in my small way on two websites. What people tend to forget sometimes is that a new post goes up on this website pretty much every 2 hours 24 hours a day, which is informational, educational, and much harder to do &#8211; entertaining. </p>
<p>Thanks guys</p>
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		<title>By: Swan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/real-leadership-is-needed-from-all-of-us/#comment-1562057</link>
		<dc:creator>Swan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Something that I found fascinating in the article was Obama’s appreciation for the oratory of Frederick Douglass, whose fiery speeches often put him at odds even with the abolitionists with whom he was working.  The contrast between Obama’s cautious, carefully crafted actions and speeches through the years and Douglass’ habit of pushing at the edges of acceptable discourse to the point of extreme discomfort for his audience to make a blunt point for which he was willing to work tirelessly no matter the public opinion is striking.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama and Douglass are in different circumstances and facing different problems. I think Obama’s rhetorical and strategic skills are God-sends and are almost in just the right measure. So I disagree with you on that if that is your criticism of Obama.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think Obama has done some bad things for him and us lately, but I think it’s a lot more likely he’s getting pressured into it somehow by the Republicans than that it’s for-real. You can read about it all the time on &lt;a href=&quot;http://swanpoliticsblog.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my blog&lt;/a&gt; like for example in &lt;a href=&quot;http://swanpoliticsblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/media-and-campaign-blackmailers-and_28.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Something that I found fascinating in the article was Obama’s appreciation for the oratory of Frederick Douglass, whose fiery speeches often put him at odds even with the abolitionists with whom he was working.  The contrast between Obama’s cautious, carefully crafted actions and speeches through the years and Douglass’ habit of pushing at the edges of acceptable discourse to the point of extreme discomfort for his audience to make a blunt point for which he was willing to work tirelessly no matter the public opinion is striking.</em> </p>
<p>Obama and Douglass are in different circumstances and facing different problems. I think Obama’s rhetorical and strategic skills are God-sends and are almost in just the right measure. So I disagree with you on that if that is your criticism of Obama.</p>
<p>I think Obama has done some bad things for him and us lately, but I think it’s a lot more likely he’s getting pressured into it somehow by the Republicans than that it’s for-real. You can read about it all the time on <a href="http://swanpoliticsblog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">my blog</a> like for example in <a href="http://swanpoliticsblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/media-and-campaign-blackmailers-and_28.html" rel="nofollow">this post.</a></p>
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		<title>By: RedHen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/real-leadership-is-needed-from-all-of-us/#comment-1562020</link>
		<dc:creator>RedHen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In January 2008 Charles Peters, the founding editor of the Washington Monthly, discussed an interview he had conducted with Obama.  On leadership, Obama said, “Since the founding, the American political tradition has been reformist, not revolutionary. What that means is that for a political leader to get things done, he or she ideally should be ahead of the curve, but not too far ahead. I want to push the envelope but make sure I have enough folks with me that I’m not rendered politically impotent.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama said that the “blogger community,” gets frustrated with him because they think he’s too willing to compromise with Republicans. “My argument,” he says, “is that a polarized electorate plays to the advantage of those who want to dismantle government. Karl Rove can afford to win with 51 percent of the vote. They’re not trying to reform health care. They are content with an electorate that is cynical about government. Progressives have a harder job. They need a big enough majority to initiate bold proposals.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In addition, I was pleased to see Paul Wellstone’s name evoked in this post.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In January 2008 Charles Peters, the founding editor of the Washington Monthly, discussed an interview he had conducted with Obama.  On leadership, Obama said, “Since the founding, the American political tradition has been reformist, not revolutionary. What that means is that for a political leader to get things done, he or she ideally should be ahead of the curve, but not too far ahead. I want to push the envelope but make sure I have enough folks with me that I’m not rendered politically impotent.”</p>
<p>Obama said that the “blogger community,” gets frustrated with him because they think he’s too willing to compromise with Republicans. “My argument,” he says, “is that a polarized electorate plays to the advantage of those who want to dismantle government. Karl Rove can afford to win with 51 percent of the vote. They’re not trying to reform health care. They are content with an electorate that is cynical about government. Progressives have a harder job. They need a big enough majority to initiate bold proposals.”</p>
<p>In addition, I was pleased to see Paul Wellstone’s name evoked in this post.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesJoyce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/real-leadership-is-needed-from-all-of-us/#comment-1562011</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesJoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hattie,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not sure if you where responding to my comment?  However if you where! Thanks…  If you were not, yes there is considerable “reason and passion” for justice and fairness expressed on this site by its writers and those making comments.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hattie,</p>
<p>Not sure if you where responding to my comment?  However if you where! Thanks…  If you were not, yes there is considerable “reason and passion” for justice and fairness expressed on this site by its writers and those making comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Hattie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/real-leadership-is-needed-from-all-of-us/#comment-1562008</link>
		<dc:creator>Hattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I appreciate the passion you express here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the passion you express here.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesJoyce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/real-leadership-is-needed-from-all-of-us/#comment-1562007</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesJoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The “Hatch Act” has been violated just as the congressional prohibition on torture, well settled law has been violated.   The executive has interfered with the EPA and “Clean Air Act” in imposing the opinion &lt;strike&gt;interests&lt;/strike&gt; of “men” before the law and its intent. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This executive says one things and its action manifest another intent!  It seems the protection and perpetuation of “oil interests” is the primary goal of this administration.  What would one expect of two oilmen in the White House?  700 Billion $ a year for energy is plenty motive to lie, cheat, steal and fabricate?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Real leadership would go right after and construct policy to lower  the “per capita cost of energy” in America. Lots of “Liberty” in $700 billion&lt;br /&gt;
leaving America.  Irrespective of where these vast fortunes end up, the price paid at the pump goes through the hands of rich powerful corporate middlemen.  Obama has made the connection between America’s energy costs and the cost upon America’s Liberty!  He just cannot come out and say it yet!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Liberty and Common Sense….   where have we heard that before?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“EXECUTIVE OIL” “CORPORATE T(R)EASON” AND THE “IRAQ OIL PLOT”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The “Hatch Act” has been violated just as the congressional prohibition on torture, well settled law has been violated.   The executive has interfered with the EPA and “Clean Air Act” in imposing the opinion <strike>interests</strike> of “men” before the law and its intent. </p>
<p>This executive says one things and its action manifest another intent!  It seems the protection and perpetuation of “oil interests” is the primary goal of this administration.  What would one expect of two oilmen in the White House?  700 Billion $ a year for energy is plenty motive to lie, cheat, steal and fabricate?</p>
<p>Real leadership would go right after and construct policy to lower  the “per capita cost of energy” in America. Lots of “Liberty” in $700 billion<br />
leaving America.  Irrespective of where these vast fortunes end up, the price paid at the pump goes through the hands of rich powerful corporate middlemen.  Obama has made the connection between America’s energy costs and the cost upon America’s Liberty!  He just cannot come out and say it yet!</p>
<p>Liberty and Common Sense….   where have we heard that before?</p>
<p>“EXECUTIVE OIL” “CORPORATE T(R)EASON” AND THE “IRAQ OIL PLOT”</p>
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		<title>By: cleanth</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/real-leadership-is-needed-from-all-of-us/#comment-1561977</link>
		<dc:creator>cleanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m feeling the need for more empathy…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chhristy, Be so kind as to see my comments to TBogg regarding his sick dogs for a taste of my generally very empathic nature :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m feeling the need for more empathy…</p>
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<p>Chhristy, Be so kind as to see my comments to TBogg regarding his sick dogs for a taste of my generally very empathic nature :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/real-leadership-is-needed-from-all-of-us/#comment-1561969</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It wasn’t so much a rejoinder as just a reminder to be kind to each other.  Because, frankly, after the shooting earlier in the week, I’m feeling the need for more empathy…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn’t so much a rejoinder as just a reminder to be kind to each other.  Because, frankly, after the shooting earlier in the week, I’m feeling the need for more empathy…</p>
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		<title>By: cleanth</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know from Payne Stewart.  Regrets.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know from Payne Stewart.  Regrets.</p>
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		<title>By: NelsonAlgren</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/real-leadership-is-needed-from-all-of-us/#comment-1561966</link>
		<dc:creator>NelsonAlgren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So Payne Stewart(wasn’t he the golfer that died in a plane crash) was murdered too?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Payne Stewart(wasn’t he the golfer that died in a plane crash) was murdered too?</p>
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