Comments on: Late Late Nite FDL: Cicadas, Whipporwhills & Chaka Khan http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:30:07 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: prostratedragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562783 prostratedragon Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:09:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562783 <p>Standard disclaimer for above [ahem, ahem]:</p> <p>pd gets a ci-ite!<br /> pd gets a ci-ite!<br /> (But I’m not telling which one.)</p> Standard disclaimer for above [ahem, ahem]:

pd gets a ci-ite!
pd gets a ci-ite!
(But I’m not telling which one.)

]]> By: prostratedragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562782 prostratedragon Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:06:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562782 <p>So enough of calling it the “<strike>negro</strike> subprime loan crisis,” already.</p> <p>Some new research from UC-Ir validates in considerable quantitative detail what the paid-for media have refused for nearly two years to acknowledge, despite a lot of people telling them repeatedly:</p> <blockquote><p> <a href="http://today.uci.edu/news/release_detail.asp?key=1805" rel="nofollow">“Subprime lending not main trigger of real estate bubble”</a></p></blockquote> <p>But the really fun part is what the researchers found <i>were</i> significant causes …</p> So enough of calling it the “negro subprime loan crisis,” already.

Some new research from UC-Ir validates in considerable quantitative detail what the paid-for media have refused for nearly two years to acknowledge, despite a lot of people telling them repeatedly:

“Subprime lending not main trigger of real estate bubble”

But the really fun part is what the researchers found were significant causes …

]]> By: TheLurkingMod http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562780 TheLurkingMod Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:36:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562780 <p>Attaturk is upstairs!<br /><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/31/wannabee/" rel="nofollow">Wannabee</a></p> Attaturk is upstairs!
Wannabee

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562779 newtonusr Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:35:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562779 <p>I probably should have phrased it “understands the Constitutional breach implied by the FISA update…”<br /> Look at Pelosi’s floor speech about this - however drugged (my guess is a 3-martini-lunch from her pie-eyed appearance) she was to stand up and make that shameful assertion, she knew god-dammed well what she was doing.</p> <p>I give Obama no less of an intellectual grasp of the implications. It doesn’t make me any more comfortable about our Congress, but if he was hewing to political necessity, however fucked up, i trust that he will know the difference when another one of these crosses his desk.</p> I probably should have phrased it “understands the Constitutional breach implied by the FISA update…”
Look at Pelosi’s floor speech about this – however drugged (my guess is a 3-martini-lunch from her pie-eyed appearance) she was to stand up and make that shameful assertion, she knew god-dammed well what she was doing.

I give Obama no less of an intellectual grasp of the implications. It doesn’t make me any more comfortable about our Congress, but if he was hewing to political necessity, however fucked up, i trust that he will know the difference when another one of these crosses his desk.

]]> By: wigwam http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562778 wigwam Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:27:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562778 <blockquote><p>Truth is, I don’t think Obama agrees with the FISA update. </p></blockquote> <p>Over the past few weeks, I’ve done some reading by and about Obama’s colleagues, friend, and mentor, Cass Sunstein. Among other things Sunstein has written a lot about Obama and Obama’s views. And I have lost my faith that Obama’s about face was purely politcal. (But I hope I’m wrong.)</p>

Truth is, I don’t think Obama agrees with the FISA update.

Over the past few weeks, I’ve done some reading by and about Obama’s colleagues, friend, and mentor, Cass Sunstein. Among other things Sunstein has written a lot about Obama and Obama’s views. And I have lost my faith that Obama’s about face was purely politcal. (But I hope I’m wrong.)

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562777 newtonusr Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:15:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562777 <p>Back at you, DWR1.</p> Back at you, DWR1.

]]> By: DWR1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562776 DWR1 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:05:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562776 <p>Yeah, I get that. I hope that if Obama becomes the next Pres that he will stand up. It’s a risk I’m willing to pull lthe lever for. I don’t know if he has the connections to clean up the mess that’s been made, but I don’t see an alternative. On that note, I’m calling it a night. Nice to chat with you newtonusr.</p> Yeah, I get that. I hope that if Obama becomes the next Pres that he will stand up. It’s a risk I’m willing to pull lthe lever for. I don’t know if he has the connections to clean up the mess that’s been made, but I don’t see an alternative. On that note, I’m calling it a night. Nice to chat with you newtonusr.

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562775 newtonusr Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:01:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562775 <p>Fallen Lutheran here.<br /> Truth is, I don’t think Obama agrees with the FISA update. I think it was purely political.<br /> He should have raised 15 kinds of Hell about it, but someone somewhere in his campaign felt that he would be putting too many chips on the table if he came strong and lost, or if he publicly flayed the Democrats for supporting it and lost their “enthusiasm” for his bid.</p> <p>There are a lot of Democrats who have skin in the FISA game, Nancy being one. It is in her interest that the briefings she witnessed stay hidden from view, and testimony by telecom companies makes that problematic.</p> Fallen Lutheran here.
Truth is, I don’t think Obama agrees with the FISA update. I think it was purely political.
He should have raised 15 kinds of Hell about it, but someone somewhere in his campaign felt that he would be putting too many chips on the table if he came strong and lost, or if he publicly flayed the Democrats for supporting it and lost their “enthusiasm” for his bid.

There are a lot of Democrats who have skin in the FISA game, Nancy being one. It is in her interest that the briefings she witnessed stay hidden from view, and testimony by telecom companies makes that problematic.

]]> By: DWR1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562774 DWR1 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:53:35 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562774 <p>Amen, so to speak. Not religious, but with spirit. I took that belief-o-meter test someone put up and came up a goshdarned Druid! Thought I’d be UU or Buddhist, at least, but, ah, no. I’m all about the Constitution…..and so distressed about how the neos have trashed it. I am annoyed with Obama for dissing FISA (not even sure why he felt he needed to do that…..he could have done a Hillary on it)……but I’m not like those who think they’ll stand down from this vote. I will pull the lever for Obama with enthusiasm simply because we must get those Repubs out of there and now! And if he picks Kaine, then I’ll spend my time trying to educate him in whatever way I can.</p> Amen, so to speak. Not religious, but with spirit. I took that belief-o-meter test someone put up and came up a goshdarned Druid! Thought I’d be UU or Buddhist, at least, but, ah, no. I’m all about the Constitution…..and so distressed about how the neos have trashed it. I am annoyed with Obama for dissing FISA (not even sure why he felt he needed to do that…..he could have done a Hillary on it)……but I’m not like those who think they’ll stand down from this vote. I will pull the lever for Obama with enthusiasm simply because we must get those Repubs out of there and now! And if he picks Kaine, then I’ll spend my time trying to educate him in whatever way I can.

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562773 newtonusr Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:47:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/30/late-late-nite-fdl-cicadas-whipporwhills-chaka-khan/#comment-1562773 <p>Reasonable and sober view.<br /> Although there seems to be less chance of it now, I would like a President who, if the feeling strikes him/her to constrain any right of any American, he/she look to the Constitution first. That’s where those rights lie for me. And if the Constitution isn’t dispositive, we should feel free to open them to public policy debate.</p> Reasonable and sober view.
Although there seems to be less chance of it now, I would like a President who, if the feeling strikes him/her to constrain any right of any American, he/she look to the Constitution first. That’s where those rights lie for me. And if the Constitution isn’t dispositive, we should feel free to open them to public policy debate.

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