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	<title>Comments on: Obama’s Trip: It’s Not “Presumptuous,” Especially When You Pull It Off</title>
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		<title>By: wrensis</title>
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		<dc:creator>wrensis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Are we about “change” or do we only care about being winning? If we are solidly behind “change” are we going to stop the crass pettiness and take a higher road?  Why can’t we be inspired by the example of the world trip that brought people together and learn how to do that with everything in our lives.  It is time for &lt;strong&gt;CHANGE&lt;/strong&gt; folks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we about “change” or do we only care about being winning? If we are solidly behind “change” are we going to stop the crass pettiness and take a higher road?  Why can’t we be inspired by the example of the world trip that brought people together and learn how to do that with everything in our lives.  It is time for <strong>CHANGE</strong> folks.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesJoyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>JamesJoyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve always been amazed how  people are “conditioned” by MSM to vote against their self interests, instead voting for the very interests usurping liberty!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gas $ are high so lets drill our brains out and get more oil at higher $ because it costs more $ to extract and transport crude.  Lets vote to keep the  oil dealers (energy) in business while we continue to trade our “liberty” for technology lessening the restrictions of time and space?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve always been amazed how  people are “conditioned” by MSM to vote against their self interests, instead voting for the very interests usurping liberty!</p>
<p>Gas $ are high so lets drill our brains out and get more oil at higher $ because it costs more $ to extract and transport crude.  Lets vote to keep the  oil dealers (energy) in business while we continue to trade our “liberty” for technology lessening the restrictions of time and space?</p>
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		<title>By: TheShadowKnows</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheShadowKnows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With every aware rational person in general agreement that our government is controlled by “Contributors” to our two “major” political parties, it appears somewhat naive to not imagine that these “Contributors” would not ensure the protection, from public outrage, aimed at the “Contributors’” expensive vassals, as they plunder and distribute the Common Wealth to the “Contributors”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In fact any plan to control a government’s decisions WITHOUT a media to protect the government, is a plan doomed to failure. So as the “wrestling” matches in our government are played out, we should never expect the dominant media to be an impartial referee of events.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With every aware rational person in general agreement that our government is controlled by “Contributors” to our two “major” political parties, it appears somewhat naive to not imagine that these “Contributors” would not ensure the protection, from public outrage, aimed at the “Contributors’” expensive vassals, as they plunder and distribute the Common Wealth to the “Contributors”.</p>
<p>In fact any plan to control a government’s decisions WITHOUT a media to protect the government, is a plan doomed to failure. So as the “wrestling” matches in our government are played out, we should never expect the dominant media to be an impartial referee of events.</p>
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		<title>By: TheShadowKnows</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheShadowKnows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With every aware rational person in general agreement that our government is controlled by “Contributors” to our two “major” political parties, it appears somewhat naive to not imagine that these “Contributors” would not ensure the protection, from public outrage, aimed at the “Contriburors’”  expensive vassals,  as they plunder and distribute the Common Wealth to the “Contributors”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In fact any plan to control a government’s decisions WITHOUT a media to protect the government, is a plan doomed to failure. So as the “wrestling” matches in our government are played out, we should never expect the dominant media to be an impartial referee of events.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With every aware rational person in general agreement that our government is controlled by “Contributors” to our two “major” political parties, it appears somewhat naive to not imagine that these “Contributors” would not ensure the protection, from public outrage, aimed at the “Contriburors’”  expensive vassals,  as they plunder and distribute the Common Wealth to the “Contributors”.</p>
<p>In fact any plan to control a government’s decisions WITHOUT a media to protect the government, is a plan doomed to failure. So as the “wrestling” matches in our government are played out, we should never expect the dominant media to be an impartial referee of events.</p>
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		<title>By: Waccamaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waccamaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;cbl2 &amp; TCU -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the feedback.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cbl2 &amp; TCU -</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Waccamaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waccamaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;CNN - announcing TN church shooter’s hatred of liberals and gays…..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN &#8211; announcing TN church shooter’s hatred of liberals and gays…..</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i’m dead serious-i can remember the precise moment that it hit me-i was driving down back roads to pick up pots for the master gardener plant sale dig day, and i heard someone that ’kinda sounded’ like mccain—struck me as soooo strange, well, it was him…..on npr, thought something was up, maybe he was ill, maybe this maybe that, maybe one time thing, nope……as time has gone by, he hasn’t gone back to what he sounded like before that…..has gotten more measured, more even-toned, etc……i thought at the time that they were trying to take any trace of emotion out of his voice due to the press he had gotten right before then about his temper…….yep, that’s what i think they’re doin’……it is subliminal……&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sounds like a psychotic serial killer, and now, i’m going to kill your children……all in measured non-tonal diction that makes it sound like he’s hosting an instructional video. here’s how i’m going to take over my country and you’re going to like it.  looooooook intoooooooooo my eyeeeeeeeeeeees. dracula.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;at the same time, they changed his body language and his wardrobe……at the time, i made jokes about the ’groomers’ on the bus or at the ’ranch’ coaching him and how he probably talked to them…….but, if he wants it badly enough, i guess he’ll do anything.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ok, gotta go, appt……&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;bbl&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i’m dead serious-i can remember the precise moment that it hit me-i was driving down back roads to pick up pots for the master gardener plant sale dig day, and i heard someone that ’kinda sounded’ like mccain—struck me as soooo strange, well, it was him…..on npr, thought something was up, maybe he was ill, maybe this maybe that, maybe one time thing, nope……as time has gone by, he hasn’t gone back to what he sounded like before that…..has gotten more measured, more even-toned, etc……i thought at the time that they were trying to take any trace of emotion out of his voice due to the press he had gotten right before then about his temper…….yep, that’s what i think they’re doin’……it is subliminal……</p>
<p>sounds like a psychotic serial killer, and now, i’m going to kill your children……all in measured non-tonal diction that makes it sound like he’s hosting an instructional video. here’s how i’m going to take over my country and you’re going to like it.  looooooook intoooooooooo my eyeeeeeeeeeeees. dracula.</p>
<p>at the same time, they changed his body language and his wardrobe……at the time, i made jokes about the ’groomers’ on the bus or at the ’ranch’ coaching him and how he probably talked to them…….but, if he wants it badly enough, i guess he’ll do anything.</p>
<p>ok, gotta go, appt……</p>
<p>bbl</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Zeleny article is another example of the corporate media’s promotion of McCain’s candidacy.  Since his campaign is sputtering along, they take out their hatchets and go after Obama.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Zeleny article is another example of the corporate media’s promotion of McCain’s candidacy.  Since his campaign is sputtering along, they take out their hatchets and go after Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Andrew McCain, son of Republican presidential candidate John McCain, on Saturday resigned from the boards of Silver State Bancorp of Henderson and Silver State Bank for “personal reasons,” the holding company said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The senator’s son owned 1,226 Silver State shares of stock, according to the company’s latest report to the Securities and Exchange Commission. That investment was worth more than $1,500 on Friday when the Nasdaq stock market closed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shares in Silver State and other publicly owned bank holding companies in Southern Nevada have lost most of their value over the past year as they reported increasing numbers of problem loans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Silver State closed at $1.28 on Nasdaq Friday, down 2 cents for the day, but off from a 52-week high of $24.10.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lvrj.com/news/25958074.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lvrj.com/news/25958074.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suspect that Henderson Bank is going under soon.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew McCain, son of Republican presidential candidate John McCain, on Saturday resigned from the boards of Silver State Bancorp of Henderson and Silver State Bank for “personal reasons,” the holding company said.</p>
<p>The senator’s son owned 1,226 Silver State shares of stock, according to the company’s latest report to the Securities and Exchange Commission. That investment was worth more than $1,500 on Friday when the Nasdaq stock market closed.</p>
<p>Shares in Silver State and other publicly owned bank holding companies in Southern Nevada have lost most of their value over the past year as they reported increasing numbers of problem loans.</p>
<p>Silver State closed at $1.28 on Nasdaq Friday, down 2 cents for the day, but off from a 52-week high of $24.10.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lvrj.com/news/25958074.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lvrj.com/news/25958074.html</a></p>
<p>I suspect that Henderson Bank is going under soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/28/mccains-cronies-big-oil-money-and-a-big-straight-talk-fraud/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Christy’s up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 McCain’s Cronies: Big Oil Money And A Big “Straight Talk” Fraud&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/28/mccains-cronies-big-oil-money-and-a-big-straight-talk-fraud/" rel="nofollow">Christy’s up</a><br />
 McCain’s Cronies: Big Oil Money And A Big “Straight Talk” Fraud</p>
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