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	<title>Comments on: McCain&#8217;s Cronies:  Big Oil Money And A Big &#8220;Straight Talk&#8221; Fraud</title>
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		<title>By: paz3</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/28/mccains-cronies-big-oil-money-and-a-big-straight-talk-fraud/#comment-1559643</link>
		<dc:creator>paz3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps porcine and human greed are both biologically driven, only in humans it can become sublimated to a pursuit of power and wealth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t laugh, people, things are not always as complicated as they may seem. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, what has characterized humans is the ability to envision idealism and the future, and to understand that postponing gratification is good for both the tribe and the individual. Considering this, one can speculate that “the greed of oil executives” arises out of a group of psychologically regressed people, who, despite their so-called exalted positions in life are no more than children in their stages of development and maturity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Scary, huh?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember, pups, we are dealing with a bunch of power drunk frat boys at times.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps porcine and human greed are both biologically driven, only in humans it can become sublimated to a pursuit of power and wealth.</p>
<p>Don’t laugh, people, things are not always as complicated as they may seem. </p>
<p>However, what has characterized humans is the ability to envision idealism and the future, and to understand that postponing gratification is good for both the tribe and the individual. Considering this, one can speculate that “the greed of oil executives” arises out of a group of psychologically regressed people, who, despite their so-called exalted positions in life are no more than children in their stages of development and maturity.</p>
<p>Scary, huh?</p>
<p>Remember, pups, we are dealing with a bunch of power drunk frat boys at times.</p>
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		<title>By: twolf1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/28/mccains-cronies-big-oil-money-and-a-big-straight-talk-fraud/#comment-1559337</link>
		<dc:creator>twolf1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/28/in-tennessee-eliminationism-is-no-longer-just-a-joke/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new post&lt;/a&gt; a couple flights up…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/28/in-tennessee-eliminationism-is-no-longer-just-a-joke/" rel="nofollow">new post</a> a couple flights up…</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/28/mccains-cronies-big-oil-money-and-a-big-straight-talk-fraud/#comment-1559336</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Impeachment proceedings&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impeachment proceedings</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/28/mccains-cronies-big-oil-money-and-a-big-straight-talk-fraud/#comment-1559335</link>
		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You don’t get that sour without a reason.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if you haven’t already, get yourself a copy of John Dean’s &lt;em&gt;Conservatives Without Conscience&lt;/em&gt; - better yet Robert Altmeyer’s &lt;em&gt;The Authoritarians&lt;/em&gt; {Dean cites his work throughout his book}&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;both do a very good job &lt;strong&gt;quantifying &lt;/strong&gt;this&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You don’t get that sour without a reason.</p>
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<p>if you haven’t already, get yourself a copy of John Dean’s <em>Conservatives Without Conscience</em> &#8211; better yet Robert Altmeyer’s <em>The Authoritarians</em> {Dean cites his work throughout his book}</p>
<p>both do a very good job <strong>quantifying </strong>this</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another minion under the neocan bus. More to follow. Scum.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another minion under the neocan bus. More to follow. Scum.</p>
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		<title>By: cbl2</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbl2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;o/t kinda sorta -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reports that there was never a plan for Obama to take the press to Landstuhl, despite the claim by McCain folks and others. The plan was to go with his military aide, retired General Scott Gration. The Pentagon said Gration was off-limits because he had joined the campaign — violating rules that it not be a political stop.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama had gone to see wounded troops in Iraq earlier in the week, without even confirming he’d been there. No press, no pictures. He has done the same when he goes to Walter Reed — never any press&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/28/1228137.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MSNBC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Where is the love?&lt;br /&gt;
You said was mine all mine,&lt;br /&gt;
till the end of time&lt;br /&gt;
Was it just a lie?&lt;br /&gt;
Where is the love?.  .  .&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>o/t kinda sorta -</p>
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NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reports that there was never a plan for Obama to take the press to Landstuhl, despite the claim by McCain folks and others. The plan was to go with his military aide, retired General Scott Gration. The Pentagon said Gration was off-limits because he had joined the campaign — violating rules that it not be a political stop.</p>
<p>Obama had gone to see wounded troops in Iraq earlier in the week, without even confirming he’d been there. No press, no pictures. He has done the same when he goes to Walter Reed — never any press</p>
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<p><a href="http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/28/1228137.aspx" rel="nofollow">MSNBC</a></p>
<p><em>Where is the love?<br />
You said was mine all mine,<br />
till the end of time<br />
Was it just a lie?<br />
Where is the love?.  .  .</em></p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/28/mccains-cronies-big-oil-money-and-a-big-straight-talk-fraud/#comment-1559332</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On the bright side..alternative to carbon are now viable. As energy reduction fron Big Carbon lowers by percentage gas prices will ease.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1956…gas station with fill up for 16 cents a gallon gives you a case of glasses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lower demand with cheap energy from home/business solar electricity to run electric cars and solar thermal at 7 cents a kilowatt and Big Oil is small oil.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep in mind less than 1% of the solar energy hitting the earth is enough to power the whole planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carbon caps&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the bright side..alternative to carbon are now viable. As energy reduction fron Big Carbon lowers by percentage gas prices will ease.</p>
<p>1956…gas station with fill up for 16 cents a gallon gives you a case of glasses.</p>
<p>Lower demand with cheap energy from home/business solar electricity to run electric cars and solar thermal at 7 cents a kilowatt and Big Oil is small oil.</p>
<p>Keep in mind less than 1% of the solar energy hitting the earth is enough to power the whole planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carbon caps</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;His wife was on Enron bd. for ten years&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His wife was on Enron bd. for ten years</p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That is what T. Bone is banking on but is a decent short term solution. A second benefit is that it runs cleaner both for the environment and the vehicle. A downside is the size of the tanks. I think school districts could really take advantage of this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is what T. Bone is banking on but is a decent short term solution. A second benefit is that it runs cleaner both for the environment and the vehicle. A downside is the size of the tanks. I think school districts could really take advantage of this.</p>
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		<title>By: ekunin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/28/mccains-cronies-big-oil-money-and-a-big-straight-talk-fraud/#comment-1559329</link>
		<dc:creator>ekunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am not, as you can see, a big economist, but I believe Enron’s big scores in the beginning came from manipulating the electric energy market. Phil Gramm is a case in point. What makes him tick? Does he have friends, lovers or just associates. You don’t get that sour without a reason.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not, as you can see, a big economist, but I believe Enron’s big scores in the beginning came from manipulating the electric energy market. Phil Gramm is a case in point. What makes him tick? Does he have friends, lovers or just associates. You don’t get that sour without a reason.</p>
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