An update on the Knoxville shooting rampage, from the Knoxville News:
Police found right-wing political books, brass knuckles, empty shotgun shell boxes and a handgun in the Powell home of a man who said he attacked a church in order to kill liberals "who are ruining the country," court records show.
Knoxville police Sunday evening searched the Levy Drive home of Jim David Adkisson after he allegedly entered the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church and killed two people and wounded six others during the presentation of a children’s musical.
Knoxville Police Department Officer Steve Still requested the search warrant after interviewing Adkisson. who was subdued by several church members after firing three rounds from a 12-gauge shotgun into the congregation.
Adkisson targeted the church, Still wrote in the document obtained by WBIR-TV, Channel 10, "because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country’s hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of media outlets."
Adkisson told Still that "he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement that he would then target those that had voted them in to office."
And on his reading list?
Inside the house, officers found "Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder" by radio talk show host Michael Savage, "Let Freedom Ring" by talk show host Sean Hannity, and "The O’Reilly Factor," by television talk show host Bill O’Reilly.
Gee, I wonder how long it will be before these guys trot out Michelle Malkin’s defense when Chad Castagana sent out his hoax-anthrax letters: "Hey, I have no idea why a crazy guy would want to hurt liberals."
[Via fiveforanonymous at DKos; h/t to Marcy.]



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“All Liberals Should Be Killed”
Future McCain campaign slogan?
I wonder where he found ‘leaders of the liberal movement’ in Tennessee?
“Do you think all liberals should be killed?” should be the Number One question reporters ask McCain.
I wonder where he found ‘leaders of the liberal movement’ in Tennessee?
I’m kinda looking for ‘leaders of the liberal movement’ too.
Different reasons, of course.
A member of the ultra-wingnut bobblehead fan club. Imagine that. Wonder how many times he’s called into their shows.
No Rush books? No Coulter? Maybe he subscribed to Limbaugh’s newsletter.
Think any of these craven propanganda whores will feel even an ounce of shame?
“Inside the house, officers found “Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder” by radio talk show host Michael Savage, “Let Freedom Ring” by talk show host Sean Hannity, and “The O’Reilly Factor,” by television talk show host Bill O’Reilly.”
Contributors to our wonderful society.
Hmmm…I wonder if the families of the victims could sue those authors who incited this violence. I have not read those books, but I am just saying might it be possible….hmmmm
People sure pointed the finger at Marilyn Manson when Columbine happened.
Watcha wanna bet he watched Fox News?
Limbaugh incited a riot during the primaries..operation chaos.
The thing is…I’m sure he’s not the only one that has been driven crazy by these hate speech mongers….
Hey Pups Digg this Post for David and to support the Lake!
As for the story what do you expect any one of the Reich Wingnuts mouth pieces would ever admit that the hate and filth they SPEW is detrimental to the good of society… FUCK NO… They are making their big bucks spewing this crap!
Thanks David for the great Post:>)
Contributors to our wonderful society.
And recipients of faxed talking points right from the White House (at least in Billo and Hannity’s cases).
I’m sure the people of the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church are feeling real kindly toward Scotty Mac, Ken Mehlman, Tony Snow, et al today.
Except that Marilyn Manson, as far as I know, never advocated eliminating people. It’s one thing when someone disturbed locks onto a particular artist (think Jodie Foster) as part of their mental illness and simply projects themselves or their agendas onto them; it’s quite another when the action is in harmony with what that public figure openly advocates.
Curious that the corporate media along with NPR has little if anything to say about this act of domestic terrorism but then if they did they would be forced to ask what role hate mongers in the corporate media have in precipitating these acts.
This is so incredibly tragic and sad…could it be a wake up call? Hannity & let freedom ring rants and berates in totally offensive ways, and unwilling to listen to any opposing voice, as a rule. And Savage, whom I have only recently heard, is slimy, mean, if not insane, to wit: autistic children. What will be do to create a more reasonable and kindly world? Rush has been beyond hope forever, as one would expect of s druggy.
This tragedy that has a long history of social justice action and advocacy: help for the least of these, the poor, the blind, the prisoners. O My, just as taught in the Bible. Yep, those crazy Progressives wanting to help other people.
Oh, I totally agree. What I meant was, but couldn’t say it right, is that if seemingly “conservative” people invoke those feelings in vulnerable people, it is not even questioned….but if a strange-looking musician is fingered for some lyrics or something, then the conservatives immediately blame(d) him as influencing Harris and Klebold…does that make more sense?
Failed suicide-by-cop, for what that’s worth — walked in with 70-something shells for his shotgun but only fired like 3. I wonder what happened to make him stop. Also FWIW his ex-wife used to attend that same UU church (got the link on FDL or EW somewhere today, can’t find it now).
Hannity has/had a friendship with Hal Turner, Neo-Nazi, of the supreme white type…
Sure. I just want to be clear that I’m not arguing along similar lines. That is, the O’Reilly fandom would be meaningless if not for the content of O’Reilly’s diatribes.
There was an attempt to connect Marilyn Manson’s content — his supposed nihilism — to the Columbine killers. Just like there were people who wanted to blame Natural Born Killers for some subsequent “copycat” killings.
Both of those cases involved critics who distorted the meaning of the respective artists’ messages to fit the killers’ actions. And in all such cases, what you’re looking at is the sort of random association that often occurs with mental illness or severe personality disorders.
In this case, however, there is simply a clear line between the right’s dehumanization and demonization of liberals, their eliminationist rhetoric, and this man’s actions. It’s every bit as clear as it was with Tim McVeigh, or Eric Rudolph, or any other number of right-wing domestic terrorists.
It should be publicized all over the country that his guy was reading Hannity, Savage, and O’Bullery. They are his role models and people should know it.
Gee, I wonder how long it will be before these guys trot out Michelle Malkin’s defense when Chad Castagana sent out his hoax-anthrax letters: “Hey, I have no idea why a crazy guy would want to hurt liberals.”
Gee I have no idea why the FCC shouldn’t ban you from the airwaves. Don’t the Germans have laws about spreading hate speech and lies about the Holocaust to which I would like to add spreading lies about 9/11.
You are so right on.
If you hear one word of that mentioned on conventional media, please notify the Lake.
Naganahpn.
I went to my records and found a few of the “greatest hits” from my local talk radio hosts. (See below.)
“Radio is very powerful” Say the ad reps. “People act based on the suggestions of radio hosts to buy products!”
Then when something like this happens it will be “Calls to kill liberals have NO impact on listeners.” and “They were joking!”
Here are a few “greatest hits” from radio hosts at K S F O. Lee R odgers,
Melanie M organ and the man who broadcasts under the pseudonym Officer Vic (who is neither an Officer nor named Vic.)
“Liberals need to be pruned.” (Audio Link)
“We’re going to get em, come the revolution there’s going to, oh they are going to be hanged from lamp posts.” (audio Link)
Suggestion to tie up a liberal radio host, geld him like a hog and use his testicle sack as a tobacco pouch. (Audio link)
Liberals are like cockroaches they can live for days with their heads cut off. (audio link)
Two of these hosts are still employed even though they lost 28 advertisers when we educated the sponsors on what they were saying every day about liberals, democrats, journalists and Muslims.
M elanie M organ’s contract was not renewed because of “financial reasons” for the overall radio station revenue.
Only when revenue takes a hit will they change their policies and even then if they still see these people as ASSETS and not liabilities they will keep them on.
One thing that they will do is when they are challenged in what they say they will pretend that loosing advertisers over their repugnant comments on commercially supported broadcast radio is the same as the government censoring their speech. They also fail to remind people that the government already limits what they can say and they have been fine with that for decades. Plus if they do swear they have 7 second delays to deal with that.
(BTW, I also have full context of these clips and I can assure you that the full context would not change the meaning but if I’m challenged I can provide it. Also, as of Friday last week Savage’s lawsuit against CAIR for using his audio clips was thrown out of court, so I’m even more confident in my ability to use these audio clips to illustrate my point.)
“because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country,
Just how have we been ruining the country? Liberals fought to get white men without property the vote as well as women and minorities.
We fight to end slavery and wars.
We fight for a minimum wage for Gays to get married and abortion.
We don’t think its right to force others to live as we do. But we will fight to protect another’s rights as if they were our own.
Also we have been right about everything and the Bushies wrong about everything for the last two terms.
People started beating up and killing Jews, Gypsies, gays… because of Nazi propaganda, at first indirectly and then directly, during a time of difficult economic conditions.
spocko if only we had diaries working!
Great catches!!!
Seconded.
As I said on another thread – gestapo.
Spocko – thanks for what you are doing.
We need this as evidence to get some broadcast licenses pulled death threats are not jokes or free speech.
Hear, hear.
No problem giving fines and banning people for using Carlin’s 7 words…What the fuck!!
Melanie Morgan’s husband is Jack Swanson, the program director for KGO. I’ll bet they don’t say anything about this either.
I hope those families sue the hell out of anyone named in influencing this man to “believe” to the point that he attempted to and did murder members of their families…
Oh, and I would say the exact same thing if a “liberal” did the same thing in reverse BTW…hate speech and egging people on is the problem, and it can go both ways.
Great points, Spocko. And thanks for doing all you do.
Liddy Dole is busy in a post upstairs.
Yep — radio is all-powerful, according to the ad folks. Has there ever been a case where someone has played those “advertise with us — we influence people” clips in a court of law?
Using spocko’s success story as an example, perhaps Pox Newz advertisers would like to hear about the hateful language spewed by their “stars” which helped fuel this nutcase to kill.
O’Loofah has explicitly called for a “terrorist attack” on San Francisco. There are many others similar to this from Pox Newz.
Are those respectable corporations that give Pox Newz millions of dollars condoning this sort of language, which we know for a fact has lead to deaths of innocent Americans?
It would be nice to have an organized movement to remind these advertisers over and over again about what kinds of speech and actions are supported by Pox Newz.
Imagine, if i had a website that was titled “ConservativesMustDie.com”. It would be considered vulgar, crude and threatening. In fact Homeland Stupidity might even think it is terroristic. But it is OK for neo-cons, Malkin, Rushbo, BillO, and so on to have their delusionally violent fantasies. It is OK to threaten liberals. Oh of course, The War On Terror is a war against Americans, with 8 million on the Main Corps Enemey List.
Peterr. I don’t know. Of course they always want it both ways. I’ve heard them argue two opposite views about their influence in the same sentence!
Rush, Hannity and O’Reilly are very cagey. Savage is even now working the lines that I heard last year, “Out of context” and “That isn’t what I meant to say.”
I was advising the group that he sued and the case against them was just thrown out. I’m sooooo happy, but it just sucks that they were put under that kind of pressure. I was under it and to a degree I still am. If they know that these people make them money they will use everything (including liberals views of the availability of various view points) to protect them.
So Rush has no problem using the ACLU to defend him. I think that it is very important to remind people that sponsored talk radio is NOT the same as standing on the street in front of the federal building criticizing the government. If the government then told you to shut up and gagged you that would be different. What is fascinating to me is that the “Free Speech Zones” does almost EXACTLY that. That is something I’d like to point out too. Of course they use national security issues which I respect, but it is simply a dodge. If they wanted to they could frisk and vet everyone, but they don’t. It is the words that they are afraid of.
I hadn’t heard about the Savage comment, so I googled it. As the father of an autistic child, let me just say this: Mr. Savage is an ignorant jackass. He needs to spend some time with some autistic people and the families that love them. But I’m sure he’s too busy and important for that, so maybe he needs a vacation … and as far as I’m concerned, it needs to be unpaid. I’m going to find out who is advertisers are and, well, Spocko set a great example. Enough said.
Here,s how I used this story, to call out the ones who mumble in the corner.
http://www.multimedia-interact…..50#p142650
Violence is almost exclusively a tool of the right.
That’s quite the stroke, finding detailed information on the murder suspects reading matter. That definitely puts the radio/tv blowhards on the spot. They need to be called down hard on this.
Alas, I’m recalling, in this context, the most unfortunate business of cheering Palestinians when Iraqi launched SCUD missiles hitting targets in Eretz Yisrael.
AirportCat. Good on you!
Tips.
1)Find out your local Savage advertisers. LOCAL is key. You can then say, “Hey, I live here and I’m sure you hadn’t heard about this so I wanted to let you know what he is doing on the show you are paying to advertise on.”
2) Send the letter to three people, vp of marketing, HR and PR. If you call, be polite and just ask them if they are familiar with what he has said.
3) DO NOT threaten to boycott. Simply ask them if they were aware of his comments on this subject (link to the Media Matters audio clips and stories) and ask “Do his views reflect your views? If not, then you might chose not to keep supporting him.” You might also want to check out the group
“Hate Hurts America” to see who has already pulled their ads.
They used my methods and got 18 advertisers to choose to stop advertising.
Not seeing what that has to do with crimes committed in the US by a hate-filled person urged on by hate speech.
It is the TRUTH that they are afraid of! And do they like to twist the truth to their own ends!
A campaign against the advertisers of these media outlets just might be the best way to get these criminals yes criminals off the air! When they are inundated with calls, emails, faxes and demonstrations in front of their corporate headquarters they might think twice about supporting such vile filth by advertising their products.
Hey, thanks for that. I’ve pasted your tips in a word doc and saved them … and I have friends who have autistic children who might also have something to say about this.
Shizzola. Is that “the” Charlie Daniels???? Seems to be…not sure.
This is not good in any case.
spocko,
I’d say it’s about time you sent your collection to all the advertisers of these disgusting shows asking them to examine their financial support for abeting violence like that exhibited in the church shootings in Knoxville.
If they have an ounce of decency in them they will withdraw their advertising from these shows.
He was also mad a liberals because “his food stamps were running out”.
Thank you for letting me know, and “good on you.” He is beyond repulsive and been very intentional and forceful in his refusal to apologize.
I just found the statement by Talk Radio Network on Savage’s comments, and I think I’m even more pissed off than I was previously. You see, my son has an “autism spectrum” disorder (PDD-NOS) not “full-blown” autism, so the fact that my son is able to talk and communicate – however difficult it is for him – seems to place my son directly in Savage’s line of fire because my son doesn’t have what Savage apparently considers to be “real” autism.
I also note that Savage is claimed to be the originator of the phrase “compassionate conservatism”.
The right-wing noise machine — more dangerous than rap music.
He definitely found them. The leaders of the liberal movement are conscientious and engaged liberals. Check out the TVUUC website and you’ll see that they are on the cutting edge of liberalism. Leaders indeed.
walked in with 70-something shells for his shotgun but only fired like 3. I wonder what happened to make him stop.
3 members of the congregation made him stop. One of them grabbed the gun barrel and the other two tackled him to the ground, according to news reports.
We have a right to free speech. But no one guarantees you the right to become a millionaire using that right to be a hateful asshat.
My son has PDD-Nos too.
This should definitely be handled as a hate crime as the gunman chose victims of a particular [perceived] ‘persuasion’: Liberals. I doubt the co-religionists, ostensibly all Christian, although of different sects, who have championed the right wing will denounce the crime. More likely they will blame the victims for being liberals or that their creed was lacking in fundamentalist purity. It seems the predictable jeremiahs like Robertson and Dobson have not weighed-in. They’re on the run anyway and busy deflecting hurricanes or aiming them at gay parades and churches, like they aim their disciples towards hatred. I guess though if a Konservative Kristian had been murdered by an avowed liberal with Al Franken’s or Chalmers Johnson’s books at home they’d be howling though.