Comments on: Waiting for a Train: Progressives and Country Music http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:29:31 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Glenn W. Smith http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1559230 Glenn W. Smith Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:54:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1559230 <p>I apologize for the Dobro oversight!!! A folk song hook that has Bush at the World Court! Perfect.</p> <p>G</p> I apologize for the Dobro oversight!!! A folk song hook that has Bush at the World Court! Perfect.

G

]]> By: revpaperboy http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1559138 revpaperboy Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:04:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1559138 <p>Progressive folk and real country (NOT Toby Keith) is the best music</p> <p>Here’s my meagre effort<br /><a href="http://kevinswoodshed.blogspot.com/2008/07/ive-suffered-for-my-music-and-now-its.html" rel="nofollow">http://kevinswoodshed.blogspot.....w-its.html</a></p> <p>Inaugural Rag</p> <p>You get the tar and I’ll get the feathers<br /> We’ll have ourselves a little get together<br /> Down in Washington DC<br /> Pitchfork, torches, horsewhips and ax-handles<br /> If all else fails we’ll have vigil with some candle<br /> or a molotove cocktail party<br /> Meet on the mall January 19th<br /> We’ll have a little talk with the Commander in Chief<br /> Maybe offer him a lift to the Hague</p> Progressive folk and real country (NOT Toby Keith) is the best music

Here’s my meagre effort
http://kevinswoodshed.blogspot…..w-its.html

Inaugural Rag

You get the tar and I’ll get the feathers
We’ll have ourselves a little get together
Down in Washington DC
Pitchfork, torches, horsewhips and ax-handles
If all else fails we’ll have vigil with some candle
or a molotove cocktail party
Meet on the mall January 19th
We’ll have a little talk with the Commander in Chief
Maybe offer him a lift to the Hague

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558822 dmac Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:03:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558822 <p>for those of you that liked mary’s song–send her a note and let her know.<br /> she is an incredible human being.</p> <p><a href="http://www.marygauthier.com/site.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.marygauthier.com/site.php</a></p> for those of you that liked mary’s song–send her a note and let her know.
she is an incredible human being.

http://www.marygauthier.com/site.php

]]> By: Larue http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558806 Larue Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:55:55 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558806 <p>Townes Van Zandt.</p> <p>What a treasure, to this day. </p> <p>So many artists, so little time . . your post and the sage comments above sure cover a lot of MY kinda artists, and we never really GOT to the grass . . . blue or new or jam. *G*</p> Townes Van Zandt.

What a treasure, to this day.

So many artists, so little time . . your post and the sage comments above sure cover a lot of MY kinda artists, and we never really GOT to the grass . . . blue or new or jam. *G*

]]> By: Larue http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558777 Larue Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:37:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558777 <p>Loves me some americana, Austin pickers electric and acoustic alike, and Ray Wiley Hubbard’s Crimson Kings.</p> <p>Corporate radio is so bad, and has been, for so long, since the AOR went to its death. </p> <p>And you left out the blue trad, new and jam grasses!!!! </p> <p>And you left out a STAPLE instrument of country music, which has spread to EVERYTHING now days.</p> <p>My own dobro, or, resonator squarenecked guitar. *G*</p> <p>Still, great post . . . great analogy or two . . . thanks! *G*</p> Loves me some americana, Austin pickers electric and acoustic alike, and Ray Wiley Hubbard’s Crimson Kings.

Corporate radio is so bad, and has been, for so long, since the AOR went to its death.

And you left out the blue trad, new and jam grasses!!!!

And you left out a STAPLE instrument of country music, which has spread to EVERYTHING now days.

My own dobro, or, resonator squarenecked guitar. *G*

Still, great post . . . great analogy or two . . . thanks! *G*

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558678 Adie Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:57:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558678 <p>1. The Ms. might have to find a Mr. or vv 1st.<br /> 2. The eggs are tiny, and laid singly, widely spaced, so you might want to check to see if you see any tiny little single thingies on the undersides of leaves. (google monarch butterfly)<br /> 3. You might already have discovered that Common Milkweed is a nice robust 5-6′ tall, &/or kinda floppy plant without many redeeming features other than attracting cool flutterbys & smelling heavenly, not unlike coolwhip - heh - when in flower.<br /> 4. Your milkweed will attract numerous other pollinating insects, some of which may sting, so don’t just grab without looking.<br /> 5. If #3 or #4 prove inconvenient for you, you can wait till end of the season and collect seedpods after they’re brown but before they spew forth their copious contents, and then start or just “broadcast” your own seed elsewhere where it’s less of a bother to lawn maintenance.<br /> 6. Same as #5 can be accomplished by digging down to cut off sections of the roots, and moving same to places where the milkweeds can grow and still attract their fans without totally undoing your former landscaping scheme.<br /> (We proved lazy, and just let them come up repeatedly by our garage, and thus, as a bonus, learned just how many more fascinating insects are attracted by these nifty plants.<br /> 7. CAUTION: You probably know, but do NOT eat milkweed yourself. It is mildly poisonous, but could cause real problems if ingested. Handling is just fine (e.g., it’s not like dealing with poison ivy; it’s only a problem if eaten; in fact, that’s key to the distastefulness of Monarch Butterflies to potential predators, which helps them survive to play out their amazing long-term, long-distance life cycle) Suggest u look up Viceroy Butterfly also, for an intriguing connection.</p> <p>If you have a well-drained area that doesn’t get too wet on a regular basis, try another milkweed, the Butterflyweed. Smaller, and less intrusive in a garden setting; bright orange flowers; easy from seed but very hard to transplant unless from a tiny seedling, because of the deep roots; every bit as attractive to all sorts of insects including Monarchs.</p> <p>Have fun!. Some time on a choose-yer-own-subject thread, I’ll try to suggest some websites. There are also some excellent field guides and butterfly-gardening websites out there.</p> <p>A sneaky and easy way to “build up” your butterfly garden is to buy a plant on an end-of-season sale, stick it in a place with prime soil, and just let it grow. Then, later in the season, or early the next season, you can probably separate off a number of plants from the original one, including some roots, move them off elsewhere where you want to extend the garden, and baby them a bit. Monarda (Bee Balm and relatives) did really well for us this way (they are also powerfully attractive to Hummingbird Moths, which have to be seen to be believed, heh - google it). Purple Coneflower is new to us, but already earning a stellar reputation for attracting fantastic beautiful insects. Catnip, believe it or not, is a prime attractant for honeybees….. Consider almost anything that flowers as welcoming a pollinator, and you can’t go far wrong.<br /> Honeybees also LOVE Globe Thistle (not a native, but not a pest plant either)</p> <p>As you garden, if there is any standing water/pond nearby, stay alert for a wonderful array of dragonflies and damselflies also. Blues, greens, reds, multi-patched wings, not shy at all, and like returning to a home-base perch, so they can easily be observed.</p> <p>So… there i go babbling again.</p> <p>This is a beautiful, vibrant, fragile natural world we live in. Spread the word. We depend on it, just as it depends on us for survival.</p> <p>Please fight the [drill to the last drop and last oil shale is gone] crowd.</p> <p>We live on ONE FRAGILE Earth. We need eachother more than ever these days.</p> <p>My one political spiel here:</p> <p>I am sure Obama realizes that.<br /> I am sure neither junior nor face-shooter does understand or care.<br /> I am pretty sure mccaint hasn’t a clue WHY he should care.</p> 1. The Ms. might have to find a Mr. or vv 1st.
2. The eggs are tiny, and laid singly, widely spaced, so you might want to check to see if you see any tiny little single thingies on the undersides of leaves. (google monarch butterfly)
3. You might already have discovered that Common Milkweed is a nice robust 5-6′ tall, &/or kinda floppy plant without many redeeming features other than attracting cool flutterbys & smelling heavenly, not unlike coolwhip – heh – when in flower.
4. Your milkweed will attract numerous other pollinating insects, some of which may sting, so don’t just grab without looking.
5. If #3 or #4 prove inconvenient for you, you can wait till end of the season and collect seedpods after they’re brown but before they spew forth their copious contents, and then start or just “broadcast” your own seed elsewhere where it’s less of a bother to lawn maintenance.
6. Same as #5 can be accomplished by digging down to cut off sections of the roots, and moving same to places where the milkweeds can grow and still attract their fans without totally undoing your former landscaping scheme.
(We proved lazy, and just let them come up repeatedly by our garage, and thus, as a bonus, learned just how many more fascinating insects are attracted by these nifty plants.
7. CAUTION: You probably know, but do NOT eat milkweed yourself. It is mildly poisonous, but could cause real problems if ingested. Handling is just fine (e.g., it’s not like dealing with poison ivy; it’s only a problem if eaten; in fact, that’s key to the distastefulness of Monarch Butterflies to potential predators, which helps them survive to play out their amazing long-term, long-distance life cycle) Suggest u look up Viceroy Butterfly also, for an intriguing connection.

If you have a well-drained area that doesn’t get too wet on a regular basis, try another milkweed, the Butterflyweed. Smaller, and less intrusive in a garden setting; bright orange flowers; easy from seed but very hard to transplant unless from a tiny seedling, because of the deep roots; every bit as attractive to all sorts of insects including Monarchs.

Have fun!. Some time on a choose-yer-own-subject thread, I’ll try to suggest some websites. There are also some excellent field guides and butterfly-gardening websites out there.

A sneaky and easy way to “build up” your butterfly garden is to buy a plant on an end-of-season sale, stick it in a place with prime soil, and just let it grow. Then, later in the season, or early the next season, you can probably separate off a number of plants from the original one, including some roots, move them off elsewhere where you want to extend the garden, and baby them a bit. Monarda (Bee Balm and relatives) did really well for us this way (they are also powerfully attractive to Hummingbird Moths, which have to be seen to be believed, heh – google it). Purple Coneflower is new to us, but already earning a stellar reputation for attracting fantastic beautiful insects. Catnip, believe it or not, is a prime attractant for honeybees….. Consider almost anything that flowers as welcoming a pollinator, and you can’t go far wrong.
Honeybees also LOVE Globe Thistle (not a native, but not a pest plant either)

As you garden, if there is any standing water/pond nearby, stay alert for a wonderful array of dragonflies and damselflies also. Blues, greens, reds, multi-patched wings, not shy at all, and like returning to a home-base perch, so they can easily be observed.

So… there i go babbling again.

This is a beautiful, vibrant, fragile natural world we live in. Spread the word. We depend on it, just as it depends on us for survival.

Please fight the [drill to the last drop and last oil shale is gone] crowd.

We live on ONE FRAGILE Earth. We need eachother more than ever these days.

My one political spiel here:

I am sure Obama realizes that.
I am sure neither junior nor face-shooter does understand or care.
I am pretty sure mccaint hasn’t a clue WHY he should care.

]]> By: Linkmeister http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558614 Linkmeister Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:41:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558614 <p>I need to give the premise more thought, but while I’m doing so let me express surprise that Chet Flippo is still around writing about music. I remember reading him (probably at Rolling Stone) back in the 1970s.</p> I need to give the premise more thought, but while I’m doing so let me express surprise that Chet Flippo is still around writing about music. I remember reading him (probably at Rolling Stone) back in the 1970s.

]]> By: Glenn W. Smith http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558592 Glenn W. Smith Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:26:09 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558592 <p>Liverpool’s not in Tennessee?</p> <p>Huntsville oughta put a giant Hawk on the square.</p> Liverpool’s not in Tennessee?

Huntsville oughta put a giant Hawk on the square.

]]> By: Glenn W. Smith http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558590 Glenn W. Smith Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:24:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558590 <p>Your welcome, and thank you for the kinds words.</p> Your welcome, and thank you for the kinds words.

]]> By: arkieology http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558499 arkieology Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:12:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/27/waiting-for-a-train-progressives-and-country-music/#comment-1558499 <p>I always thought I was a hippie until a friend of mine correctly identified me as a long haired redneck. Merle Haggard drove me away from country music with Okie from Muskogee. It was Willie and Waylon that led me back to my roots with their Outlaws album in the seventies, KPIG in Santa Cruz completed it. And now I think Merle has come a long way back down the road as well. I’m now living in the small Arkansas town of Huntsville which gave the world Ronnie Hawkins, the Hawk, who put together most of “The Band” before they hooked up with Dylan. Johnny Cash’s version of Marley “Redemption Song” still brings a tear to my eye.<br /> Great post, music truly is an amazing blender and amalgamater of cultural influences, with the greater Mississippi basin as one of its most fruitful cauldrons, with all the influences you mentioned. The first song that Mick Jagger ever recorded was La Bamba. Those liverpool boys may as well have been from Memphis.</p> I always thought I was a hippie until a friend of mine correctly identified me as a long haired redneck. Merle Haggard drove me away from country music with Okie from Muskogee. It was Willie and Waylon that led me back to my roots with their Outlaws album in the seventies, KPIG in Santa Cruz completed it. And now I think Merle has come a long way back down the road as well. I’m now living in the small Arkansas town of Huntsville which gave the world Ronnie Hawkins, the Hawk, who put together most of “The Band” before they hooked up with Dylan. Johnny Cash’s version of Marley “Redemption Song” still brings a tear to my eye.
Great post, music truly is an amazing blender and amalgamater of cultural influences, with the greater Mississippi basin as one of its most fruitful cauldrons, with all the influences you mentioned. The first song that Mick Jagger ever recorded was La Bamba. Those liverpool boys may as well have been from Memphis.

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