The Wire Service that Must Not Be Named is reporting that our old pal Maverick McMaverick is now saying that The Owner of Nope is probably, maybe sorta-kinda right about a phased-in 16 month withdrawl (how do we rework that old Vietnam-era joke… withdrawl is something that George Sr. should have practiced with Barb about 62 years ago) from Eye-Rack.
To quote that memorable "Office Space" character Bill Lundberg… "yeeeaah…" so what’s made our buddy McTorture (it’s like torture, but quicker and with fries) change his mind about leaving? Well, perhaps he read those dratted polls that indicate that something like every American who doesn’t think that Preznit Impaired shits in plastic bags with pink ribbons on them wants to get the hell out of Iraq, and get our men and women home sooner rather than later. I guess that it’s finally sinking in with Mr. Straight Talk that continuing the policies of the last seven point seven years is not a political winner. So let’s see what else he’s going to talk about next… further destruction of the financial industry by putting predatory lenders in charge of the Treasury? Making a high-placed contractor SecDef? Leaving Condi at State thus ensuring our reputation for colonial-power hubris into the next century and beyond?
It’s going to be interesting to see if McCain’s conversion to "timetables" is another senior moment, or if he’s going to try and sell "his base" on the idea that it’s good policy going forward. A commenter Leo, over at Matt Yglesias blog, pretty much puts it into a neat (and I think) correct context:
Ugh. As stupid as this sounds to people who have been following the campaign closely, I’m afraid it may be smart politics. There are a lot of people out there who hate McCain’s actual positions but have a gut loathing for democrats. If McCain takes essentially Obama’s position, then mischaracterizes Obama’s position using all kinds of right-wing buzz words that may be a more or less sound strategy. It lets people say there are no real policy differences, the election is about "trust." And who can trust an angry, naive, foreign-sounding, etc., etc.?
Posted by Leo | July 26, 2008 12:34 PM
Because nothing says complete right-wingnuttery like adopting your opponents positions and then mischaracterizing your opponent. It’s what the wingnuts do best and has the added value for them of being mistaken for "original" rational thought with the dittoheads and Faux News viewers.
I have to wonder what other things McVoodoo will be adopting/stealing next? He already tried to take Obama’s logo, he’s tried to grab the "Change we Can Believe In" thing and he’s got to have those overpriced lobbyists working on his next big thing.
I wonder if he’s ever read John Howard Griffin’s incredible book, "Black Like Me". Wait, I don’t want to give the poor old batshit crazy bastard any ideas. But hey, it would be the ultimate in political chutzpah, no?
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Nice post Jo.
hey Jo !
already chortling at the Griffin idea – bee-utiful ! but would Broderella find him articulate ?
McBush now denies that he said the word “timetable” although of course the lyin video tape is starin him right in the face..
He’s outdoin the current incumbent of the White House in the bald faced lying dept.
Yesterday’s (Albuquerque Journal, I have no idea when it was originally published) Ellen Goodman column notes that almost everything McSame has to say has a sell-by of January 1, 1970.
And the monkey wrapped his tail around the flagpole to show his _ _ _hole to the crowd
Aloha, Jo Fish!
Thanks, Jo. Great post. I think the quote above precisely describes how W ran his campaign. He adopted Bill Clinton’s position on virtually everything and then distorted Gore’s positions. Of course, he then governed to the right of Atilla the Hun and ran away from everything he said while campaigning.
spew!
Do you think he will ultimately come to the position of voting for Obama?
Senator John McCain famously said in January 2008 that if US troops were to stay in Iraq for 100 years, it “would be fine with me.”
After Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki endorsed Obama’s 16-month withdrawal plan, McCain changed his position, telling Wolf Blitzer that “it was a pretty good timetable” in the video at the bottom of the page.
But now the Senator is denying he ever used the word timetable at all and reasserting “conditions on the ground” as the overriding factor for when US troops can leave Iraq.
“I didn’t use the word timetable,” he told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos in an interview airing Sunday.
When asked if Obama was right that the US invasion of Iraq “inflamed the Muslim world,” McCain said that his own prediction of Americans being greeted as liberators was correct.
“We were greeted as liberators,” McCain said.
This video is from ABC’s This Week, broadcast July 27, 2008.
Hey, ES, Badger gave ya a hat tip in today’s post…! ;-)
Somehow I don’t think McCain would actually understand the point of Black Like Me.
I also don’t think there’s a book titled Old Like Him but that seems to be more McCain’s speed.
People are gettin hip to the fact that if ya see a picture with McBush’s picture on it- yer gonna be in for some big laughs…..
Clusterfuck hits 22% in new job approval poll….scarin Satan who sits at 18.
Hey JoFish love your opening paragraph:>)
It was SOoo good I had to Digg your Post! And the rest of you Pups get busy and Digg Jo’s Post and support the Lake at the same time! You can do it it is really simple…. just click on the link and then click on the Digg counter at the Digg Site!! See so simple even a caveman can Digg it…..
Fantastic! * big bean smile*
Thanks Nahant, been wanting to work that old chestnut about withdrawl in somewheres or ‘nother for years… :)
Aloha back at ya, CT!
Do you think there is going to be more people at Ron Paul’s convention than at the Repub?
McBush gums Obama within six inches of a slobber boardin for travelin overseas when he ain’t the prez yet–Obama says- rudely- “Hell he didn’t think it was wrong when HE did it- we shouldn’t be blamed for doin it better”.
I wish Obama would put up an ad with McInsane talking out both sides of his ass.
Don know- but many delegates are bringin a dark suit in case it turns into a wake.
I should hope so… The Rethugs have lost all cred with the people of this country!
Obama’s gotta be savin hours and hours of raw video of McBush- could turn into great ads…
“Not a bad timetable” “I didn’t say the word ‘timetable’”!
McBush is conveniently makin all his “gaffes” in front of teevee cameras…
McBush needs ta hire a big guy with a hook- ta hook him off the stage when he’s about ta verbally vomit all over hisself.
Maybe we just haven’t heard about the rest of them
But, but they are they all heart Obama….
Oh, I’m sure that he would understand it, he’d just claim he had the idea first in high school before he went to the Navel-gazing Academy.
Back when he was ag’in integration before he was fer it…
McBush comes out in favor of ending affirmative action- thinking that this will keep Obama from the White House?
I did not hear the roundtable on “This Week with George St…” discuss this. Now granted I was painting and might have missed it but all I heard was Obama, Obama bad, Obama bad. Am I wrong?
Obama needs to buy 30 minute long Mcinfomercial slots.. Just to many McLies to squeeze into a 30 secs or minute.
Just for the record, I do not want to see darkblack’s rendition of that.
Do you have a link to the video?
The idea of a late-night Obama infomercial is some serious SNL grist… :-) I’d love to see that… or write it.
I’ve said this before but I’m beginning to think McCain won’t be the nominee by the time the Republican Convention rolls
over himaroundMcInsane definitely lost any vestige of cred that might’ve remained with this fact-free BS…
http://rawstory.com//news/2008….._0727.html
Didn’t watch George this a.m. but the uppity Obama is a bad guy was the overwhelming theme on the talking whores this morning.
Thanks Jo Fish. McShame HAS no shame.
You have to come clean up my keyboard… rolls over him indeed…
Looking at those polls, it looks like people are beginning to buy into the idea that violence in Iraq is coming under control, but that isn’t budging the opinion that going there was wrong and that we need to bring the troops home as soon as possible. I think that translates into no support for Teh Surge and could explain why McThuselah is changing his tune. That’s really big, since Teh Surge was all he had going for him. He has just flipped on the last thing that he had. There’s nothing left in the tank now.
Thanks RWCOLE!
It appears that the media as a massive group is bending over backwards to save this race- figuring that if the public figures out this early what a clown McBush is- they’ll spend billions covering a three month campaign that no one will watch.
The media just want a story. A landslide 3 or 4 months out is not a story.
Goopers must be goin out of their minds as they see what a jackass they have for a candidate. If I were McBush, I’d get a food taster.
Possibly because it wasnt “teh surge” that has improved the situation in Irak. The cease fire has somewhat stabilized the situation which is under no circumstance under control.
Here’s a little tip McBush- if ya get a package from the RNC and it’s TICKING– don’t put it under yer Christmas tree- RUN!!
OT: Snarkassandra’s blogging from New York: Freckles’ rules for getting around New York City
McBush now sees that if he’s right about the surge workin- then Obama’s right about gettin our asses out of there—-WHOOPS—
LOGIC TRAP–LOGIC TRAP
Wonderful post, Jo Fish.
Levity on such grave days is most welcome, especially when it is so pointed, as here.
McBush accused of sayin that we’d be welcomed as liberators- to which McBush answers “we were”
I ALWAYS murder my liberators- don’t y’all?
The corporate media has avoided talking about the cease-fire like the plague. If one brings up the cease-fire the whole argument for the surge having worked turns to shit.
McBush now has the idea that it doesn’t make any difference at all WHAT he says- he may be right.
yep! their bosses like war.
They’ve been going out of their minds since Romney left the race. If it were not for McTorture’s lobbyist buddies who kept his campaign aliv last summer, the RNC would have been FEDEX-ing garlic wreaths and white-oak stakes to Sedona Cindy last year to nail the old vampire in his box before Labor Day ‘07.
The big-money republicans wanted McZero to be their boy in charge, and the rank-and-file gave him another shot at the title as a consolation prize for being savaged by Preznit 22% in 2000. I too wonder if the RNC will roll out another player in the Twin-Cities for the title.
Steel Cage-Match ‘08 between Jets for John and Mormon-meadows Mitt… at the Minneapolis Convention Center…Sunday Sunday Sunday!
Only 11 coalition casualties in Iraq so far this month- time ta bring the boys home—-Oops- I mean to Afghanistan….
“Come on all of ya big strong men-
Uncle Sam needs yer help again”
And just how many war industries does GE, owner of NBC, invest in, hmmmmmm?
Hi, Betsy. Good to see you.
I’d put my money on McBush- he BITES– and Romney BLEEDS
Good to see you as well! You been to the new place? Click my name. But we’re moving again.
If the convention throws McC out we are in store for the largest, longest, loudest temper tantrum the world has ever seen. He will go on TV 24/7 and rant. Could be fun.
ROFLMAO!
Terrific, and, alas, altogether logical, given the way this is going.
A little edit:>)
Yeah, passed through the other day without time to comment. Good luck!
I’m still expecting a major McSame melt-down. Wonder when it’ll be.
sooner rather than later, now that he’s getting called on his gaffes
I’ve heard it discussed a few times but you are right. I had to explain the cease fire to my wing nut mother in law who has no idea what is going on over there but still thinks it’s cool to send other people’s children off to die or be maimed for life because those scary brown people want to kill us don’t you know. And oh yeah, will follow us home when we leave.
I hope it’s on live teevee. Maybe at a debate?
By who? When I was listening to “THis Week with George S…” on the roundtable all I heard was Obama, Obama bad, Obama bad. I missed the part where they said do you think that McCain is having to many senior moments.
Hope it/s after the repub convention
So John McCain comes along, my friends, and says he is going to cause a seismic event if he cannot visit the troops in the hospital whenever he wants. People who run hospitals have a word for these self-important shit-stirrers who think the rules do not apply to them. We call them assholes.
Doesn’t matter imo. I saw the Kerry/Bush debate and it was embarrassing for Bush and look who won.
yeah, that’s the sad part.
Hey, Racy! It was a pleasure meeting you at dinner during NRN, my friend.
JPL9, you make it hard for me to live in denial. ; )
My hope is that we become the MSM and Jane and Christy are doing there best to make sure that happens. Corporate ownership has done us a disservice. I might have missed the roundtable discussion on “This Week” talking about McCain’s incoherent interview but I don’t think so.
likewise wangdang!
McCain Clarifies Position on Gay Adoption
July 27, 2008 11:12 AM
“When pressed further about children who may not have a home otherwise, McCain, who has an adopted daughter, reiterated that he will “do everything I can to encourage adoption, to encourage all of the things that keeps families together, including educational opportunities, including a better economy, job creation”
According to ABC News.. This a clarification.. WTF
Did anyone realize that mcCain was talking about the economy last week?
Jo, Meant to say thanks for the post. It allows me to rant about my favorite character. I can’t believe that I thought in 2000 he was okay.
Effectively, it won’t be a big deal in the for-profit corporate media.
Why Not? Because the earnings per share press and media DON’T love McCain because he’s a good interview, or the other blather offered up as a rationale. BUT, he is the candidate of the M-I-C, of the wealthy, and of corporations. Some of us remember when Ronald Reagan was The TEFLON President for 8 years. Some of us remember when G.H.W. Bush told the media stenographers that he was “Out-of-the-Loop” on Iran-Contra, despite being the head of the entire operation. That was good enough for corps-in-the-bag media. Case Closed on that sucker-rather quickly too. Some of us remember when G.W. Bush was gaffing his way through the 2000 campaign, and all the three-monkeys media failed to inform voters that the Bush crown prince in waiting, was in fact a Clown Prince.
So it could be Bozo McClown running for president, as far the boys-in-the bus are concerned. He is the Republican nominee, and he is family.
yeah, if the economy equates=surge… Oh, wrong economy.
Just when ya get a good story line….
Fave story line is July has been “Polls tightening- Obama slippin”
Now Gallup comes out with a nine point Obama lead—-WHOOPS!
“McCain a good interview”
Well in the same way that unstable explosives are entertaining- ya never know what they’re gonna do next.
My hope is that we become the MSM
Hey,I have been looking around and pondering the FDL “Franchise” lately… and have come to the conclusion that the work Jane and Christy and Pach and Trex, et. all who came later (HEY MARCY!) is really starting to pay off…
You can’t watch KO, Colbert, Daily Show or other cable news programs (even that US house member asked if Cheney was a BARNACLE?!?!11) without hearing verbiage first used here and on other blogs.
ITS WORKING FOLKS — that is why all the pushback.
Thank you, all of you. :D
Really? I thought it was bratwurst and cream puffs… then I heard something about applesauce.
Excellent point.
But now there is us. And we can make it different.
Yes, we can.
Affirmative action is preventing all the foreclosed-hard-working-white people from getting the jobs that have been outsourced to China and India. Those would be the same jobs that McCain sez aren’t coming back.
For those that watched Steph and McCain, did I hear right? Did McC say that he would lower gas prices by shaming the oil companies into charging fair prices?
Wish we had Monty Python around to do a McBush interview—-
“So when ya said that 16 months was a good timetable- was that from NOW”
“I didn’t say the word “timetable”
“Yes ya did”
“No I didn’t”
“DID”
“DIDN’T”
“DID”
“DIDN’T”
“So when you say ‘Didn’t do you mean ‘this week’?”
“I didn’t say “didn’t”"
“did”
“Didn’”
“
They hate us for our freedoms!
I hope your right because when I see headlines like this on ABC’s news site..it makes me upset..”"”McCain Backs Away From ‘Timetable’ Remark”"”"
If backing away is saying I never said that well fine, but that is not backing away.
Great post, Jo Fish! Well, Johnny McTeleprompter was for affirmative action, now he’s against it:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit…..erses.html
I expect him to switch back at any minute.
Hey Jo Fish! Great snark. McCane’s gotta be hating the latest Gallup.
And if you didn’t see the Stephonopolis interview, be sure you do. McCane was pissed off, and I was waiting for the BLOW-UP!
Waitin to see the big McCain explosion in which his TEETH all fly out.
I’m thinking a whole lot more people will be analyzing this debate than the Bush/Kerry debate.
Here’s the Stephanopolis interview.
were his meds wearing off?
Didn’t see it – what was he angry about? As if he needed an excuse.
Heck yeah. He was right there in the cheese and applesause aisles. Freaking in-the-know, that guy is.
Should be denies. McCain denies saying what he said even though he was on videotape. Therefore McCain is a liar or a fool.
NPR is famous for reporting that Democrats failed to get a bill passed, while Republicans did not get the bill they wanted passed.
remember, you’re talking ABC… they are, imho, “Children of the Damned” and can’t be saved… Nothing will every change their minds. They are in lock-step with Right-wing evangelicals, who produce children (Disney’s “core customers”) like teeny cars produce clowns.
They’ll never give up the Right Wing meme, it’s too bad for business.
But if MSBNC and CNN are starting to listen, it won’t be too long until the ‘MSM’ catches up.
Actually I think it was Cohen of TN who first used the phrase “Barnacle” about Cheney when Addington appeared before the Oversight Committee.
As suggested by one of my blog readers, when the phone rings at 3am Johnny will answer his dentures. Scary, but true.
innersting. Gonna watch for that across the board.
If KO were to interview McInsane and press him as Georgie did, we’d have seen the explosion heard round the world. I love watching him get pissed because someone dare challenge what he says. I thought HRC was good at triangulating but the old guy is more flexible by far.
The Phrase, quite patronizing and whiny, was but “Obama does not understand, Ob.does not understand…Obama does not understand….” Get it? Brain dead answers, sad to say.
Damn, that is a great idea! Every thing that McTelepromper says should now be labeled with a sale-by-date. Trouble is, that the sale by date might be anywhere from his next sentence, to the next 100 years.
The fun might be in the guessing of the sell-by….
I’m hoping Obama can get him to blow during the final debate. He definitely has triggers.
I was truly impressed with the way Obama handled himself on Meet the Press. Brokaw asked some tough questions.
Well, Steve was a BA candidate, so I am not surprised, and actually kind of wraps my argument up with a nice Blue Bow. :D
I think it was more about the tax break; Step said it would all go to the corps; then Mc said he would shame them, as I recall. Something silly.
did he realize he was talking about the economy?
** jingles keys **
Patraeus doesn’t boogie with timelines.
Not to mention an obvious sense of entitlement. I guess Obama would have to go off and wreck 5 planes and get captured before he would “understand.”
McW’s policies seem to change by the stump speech. I can’t tell what he’s about anymore, ‘cept that he’s a warmongerer who wants to plunge the country into a permanent depression.
Was and I believe still is a BA candidate running against someone from the Ford machine trying to knock him off in a primary.
IIRC from what Howie has written, his primary opponent is a standard DLC level hack.
What is so alarming is that he says something, denies it the next day and moves right along as if nothing has happened. Doesn’t feel the need to explain or anything. Clearly delusional.
He certainly knows how to keep his job. Look what happened to the ones that disagreed. I guess we should say Good Pub…
What’s really alarming is nobody calls him on it. They might try, a “yes you did” but they cave fast.
Yes. Can’t wait to hear what these retired generals have to say after Obama’s in.
That’s the time when Russert would play the tape; I suspect someone will be doing that…or as said, an Obama ad.
And what’s even scarier than that is that the media lets him get away with this schizophrenia.
They’re scared. The guy’s a nutcase and you can see it in his whole demeanor. The MSM folks sense it and back off. It’s primal.
Call him on it? Geez, we just need a counter to keep up.
I agree. Reminds me of someone I was married to – it’s true because he said so – and making a concerted challenge to it was hazardous to my health.
Yeah, I think your earlier suggestion of an Mcinfomercial is spot on. The idiot contradicts himself multiple times daily.
Maybe Cindy will have a conference to say in effect, he’s just not up to it….She does not look like she is having much fun. In the interview with Steph. the dogs ran through during the interview; McC looked thrilled, and George did not look amused. Quite sure the dogs were let out to give a little comic relief.
yeah and a candy cane in every sock at Christmas time.
what a pile of steaming!
who WRITES this stuff?>?????
i just cannot envision McIdiot getting any where near the votes to get anywhere near the White House.
Truly!
You guys missed the best 15 second spot of all against McSlime from the Georgie Boy interview.
McSlime claimed the Ambassador to Iraq said that we have “won”.
Soooooo….
Next question to post up right after that clip is
SO WHAT ARE WE STILL DOING THERE? You said we’d leave when we won – so when are the boys comin’ home?????
Georgie Boy strikes me as one of those people that small dogs just love to hump their leg. That would have been some comic relief!! Hahahahaha!
Maybe he should watch “Watermelon Man” while he’s at it.