Suz!

*sigh* I’m still tuneless and toonless…!

CT!

I knew it would be you CT!

I was watching the Scary Black Man ad and missed by “that much”

tonight my mind is a blank. too much hooch and thmoke.

hey gnome

saturday nite special :)

What’s going on tonight? I’ve been busy working around the house and haven’t even seen the news today, never mind the snark.

Heh, neuro or nahant are stiff competition tho…! ;-)

FORK.. forgot the link.. here it is

Rats…I finally came up with something to say down there, and then you guys came up here. I’d been lurking while watching MIB II.
Okay, well, since I’m here, I’ll watch the toon.

its a classic, demi – hope ya’ll like it

What’s McBush building in there?

knock

knock

is this thang on??????????????

working on this end mary mcc

Everybody’s watching the toon…! ;-)

Digg!

((((( Suz )))))

Caught up downstairs just in time to be EPU’d … *g* … how are my fav group of Murkans ?

thanks, neuro

Understatement, eh?

I did. I enjoyed it. I like the music. That would have been a fun job. I like how they wove Three Blind Mice into the music when Jerry had that cap over his eyes. Subtle.
Oh, and that Jerry is such a scaliwag.
Thanks Suzanne. Didja have that picked out even before all the Hawaii talky?

(((petro))) how goes the great north dood?

We are Murkans true. Murkans that don’t work corporate and don’t do church that much. We are Murkans that truly want the best for our neighbors and friends. We are Murkans that don’t need to conquer the un-enemy. We are Murkans that have a sense of humor.

I hate chiggers

yeap, picked it out earlier in the week. seemed a good toon for a summer night.

token needs to save a tree – ya’ll throw spitballs at lurk – i’ll be right back

we even have enough of a sense of humor to call ourselves Murkans

Clear nail polish, neuro… and I agree wholeheartedly with that sentiment…!

Bring it, pups!
I have my sneeze-guard up!

If it was any better, I couldn’t stand it ! *g*

((( CT ))) … you went back and read, eh ? *g*

Good evening, Mr. Petrocelli. How’s it going, eh?

I just read that headline about the shortage of ‘allied health’ workers. I must be in the wrong place, because i can’t seem to get hired locally. I just applied at the other big hospital in town. We’ll see if that plays out. Still have to get the last of the retail ones out too, see if i get any bites.

Still, it annoys me. They say ’shortage, shortage!’ but no one wants to hire me anyway. EVen if i’ve got several years as a working tech under my belt AND i’m fully certified. I’ve been toying with relocating, but i’d have to talk them into a moving bonus in order to do it.

We are Murkans that have a sense of humor.

her ya go – there’s even a personalized joke in here for ya…

Steven Wright:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIHZDo9NBMk

Hiya demi, how’re the nails you doing ? *g*

Hey alias – best of luck

The fersure real one or the sunglasses and duct tape?

((((( mary )))))

Y’all represent the best that is America and I hope more people around the globe are fortunate to meet you, perhaps share a meal and chat about life’s experiences … you would have no enemies …

token (and goldie his sister) saved three trees and one shrub.

hey alias.. i thought of you when i saw that article

Oh, pretty fair I’d have to say.
Jumping up from behind my chair…thwack! Spit ball chucked right at LM.

Ya got ‘im good ! *g*

Ooops. I didn’t know you were back, Suzanne.
I was just, uh, cleaning up and stuff and I don’t know why there’s a spitball on LM’s shield. I really don’t.
I think someone’s trying to get me in trouble. yeah.

direct hit! nicely done, demi

Sneeze-guard is one of those things you find at the salad bar at Sizzler (where I stole mine from) – it is about 6 feet wide; nice try, though.

Great cartoon, thanks Suz;)

Sounds like a challenge.

thanks margot

Thanks Suz. It just annoys me that Michigan is probably THAT bad. Screaming about shortages but not having enough money left to hire new bodies in. It’s not like i’d take a lot of retraining, either.

ROFL … ((( TLM )))

That makes me feel good and i (sorta) believe it.

sweet.. i’ve got a front row seat

I will remember this moment… while you are on the road!

Can anyone tell me if LM has to hold said sneeze guard, well sure, I guess he does. Or she.
Umm, if I start saying some real nasty stuff, LM will have to use the fingers to moderate my comment and then, and then…watch out.

On the road again…. on the roa

why do ya think i am encouraging them? (laughing)

Sneak around back of the monitor…

I’d feel bad, but you can get yourself into trouble all your little ownsie. :)

I guess I need the work – to keep sharp, don’t you know.
OK, bring it on!

ok. did you know there was a camel car/clown toe joke in that youtube?

gee, pups, that sounded like a double dog dare to me

*innocent look*

You distract with something totally offensive, and I’ll do the sneaking.
Ha ha. It’s not cheating for us to team up, is it?

Thank you SO much, Suzanne.

yep.

Vi4gra!

P0rn!

hahahahaha i’m laughing so hard..

Furreners get their hackles up at anyone they think is American. They treat me at arms length until I say that I am Canadian and the past few years, I’ve had tons of chats about your Gov’t policies, many of which are backed by a Dem Congress.

In the end, I tell them, “I’m glad you enjoyed our chat, you’d enjoy chatting with the average American just as much if you didn’t have your shields up” and they always agree with me. When we communicate without prejudices, there’s no room for misunderstanding.

Get it out of your systems now…
You are all mine in a couple of weeks.

You know, I have to tell you Mary, every once in a while, I’ll see some young woman with, like, too tight pants and I think about you and your jokes.
I know, I know. I’m sick in the head.

promises

promises

Ruh-Roh.

Cial*s
Val*um
M****rF****r

ROFLMAO !!!

Uh oh, we’d better stock up on the chocolate and pecans then…! ;-)

no no no, not at all demi – it is when you think its a hot fashion statement, then you are sick in the head

Go Wang…keep going. I’m sneaking. I’m crouched.
And just for good measure…Look Haley’s Planet!!!
Thwack!
Ducking back down.
Did I miss?

My GwAD, what have I imparted to the masses???

is that the best you got?

nah you all of ours… ya better get that straight right NOW!

clown cars and camel toes

Hey Suze, turns out we have prior commitment Saturday so Sunday is a definite maybe. I have a lot to do next weekend. Arrgh.

How’s evvabody doin?

Deploying BubbleBoy outfit…
OK, pups – this is WAR!

that guy – that’s good because its gonna be sunday afternoon – not saturday. i know a union city pup who may need a ride – can i hook the two of you up via email?

It is the sabbath.

bubble wrap? i can not resist crushing those bubbles – one at a time. pop, pop, pop, pop

Bwahahahaha …

father forgive me for I have given the world a sense of pussssss—- er…
clown car humor.

Ya’ll are having a meat up and didn’t get in touch?
OMFGGGGGGG!

OK, pups – this is WAR!

Dayam, such open hostility…!

Not moderator-bait, though.
Hold your head high, Mary. You skirted the moat.

TheLurkingMod has unresolved issues!

I, personally, lov unrrrrrrrrrrresolved issssssssues.

well, i was gonna put it in my tuesday post (which is a forking killer video by the way) that the help pack the pod party is sunday, august 3rd in the afternoon.

any and all bodies welcome but not all bodies need work. being disabled myself, i certainly don’t want those who can not pack the pod to think they are not welcome.

anyone who wants to attend, email me.

hey, at this point, just hearing the word “clown” is enough to get me laughing…

Btw, We won…!

ALL YOUR SERVERS R BELONG TO US

In all of this time I have remained moatless.

Since the very, very beginning.

mary, its not an official meetup and i don’t wanna pimp it too much. email me for details and will ya need a ride from the train station?

I am not sure that moatless is good. Is it sort of like brainless?

do I haveta??

Until we leave.

if I bring the chili and don’t email can We still come????

I couldn’t believe the bombastic assumptions they made in the article…! I was left speechless…

I’m taking my painted nails and going to bed to read, ’cause I’m one of those Merkicans who goes to church. If I see God tomorrow, Mary, I’ll tell her you’re just kidding about all those P jokes. :)

Aloha, demi!

There’s a song on YouTube for everything.

only if ya bring peach pie and julie

g’nite demi

I’m not sure we’ll make it. I may not know until the last minute.

Nighters, demi.

nite demi

ok, that guy – you know how to get ahold of me so let me know if you will need directions

Suz, I’m shocked that you didn’t beat wdd to this!
UGH!

its in the cards… but peach pie… I will see if they are still available..but if not it will be a SURPRISE pie…you havta guess what’s inside before it gets cut!!!

I couldn’t believe the bombastic assumptions they made in the article

What – you didn’t know that al Sadr has been rendered impotent?

It’s all good now – what could possibly go wrong?

All hail King George and Saint John, and may their rule of Iraq continue for the obviously peace and blissful decades to come.

Spit.

Good Night, Sweets.
Remember, I do keep you in my prayers.
(Lurking Mod – you’ve got something stuck on your…ha, ha, ha. It’s really funny looking there.)

did it several weeks ago iirc

Hair gel.
It is hair gel! I swear!

i also played this one

Murkans okay. Los del nortes?

Ah, right. Now, I’ll go to sleep with a smile on my face.

Yep, every thing is just peachy keen just ask Crock’o Shit…

“Very clearly, the insurgency is in no position to overthrow the government or, really, even to challenge it,” Crocker said. “It’s actually almost in no position to try to confront it. By and large, what’s left of the insurgency is just trying to hang on.”

Shiite militias, notably the Mahdi Army of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, have lost their power bases in Baghdad, Basra and other major cities. An important step was the routing of Shiite extremists in the Sadr City slums of eastern Baghdad this spring — now a quiet though not fully secure district.

Right, with three miles of 12 ft high concrete barriers running through it…

omg Maureen Dowd should be jailed

Why did the Obama campaign let her come on the trip, and ride on the place with him? Don’t they understand how toxic she is?

((((( Loo Hoo )))))

YGM

Missed it, but figures you’d beat me to it!

I would’ve loved to have been sitting in the meeting of Crock & BO …

hey teddy

Hiya Loo Hoo!

And helicopter gunships overhead…
And millions of tax dollars in payoffs…
And…

((( Teddy )))

I’m John McCain, a bitter, angry, unstable, dishonorable old codger and I approve this message.

-G

this was the c/t song i found

That was special!

Hey Teddy.

Now get off my lawn!

And helicopter gunships overhead…
And millions of tax dollars in payoffs…

“Well, I think this is all working out quite well for them. Georgie – good job, son!.”

Yikes!

McCain looks like he needs an enima and massage.

You need to go big time with this alias. This is not right, and doesn’t even sound legal. Are you a member of a union? If not, is there a medical union in your area? You folks need to stick together.

Are you babysitting Goldie?

He’s reportedly bound-up and a tad testy after his visit to The Sausage Haus.

Colbert joked about John McCain hosting a “sausage party”.

The more I see of McCain, the more loathes he becomes in my eyes.

-G

I couldn’t read the whole thing. it made me dizzy.

But are you sure she wanted to cast aspersion?

McCain looks like he needs an enima and massage.

Better?

((( GregB )))

Long time no see !

her people are out enjoying music tonight- she is sulking on my sofa

hey teddy – you and your fiancee gonna be able to stop by sunday the 3rd in the afternoon for the pack the pod party (more party than packing)?

Are you questioning John McCain’s integrity?

She knows no other way.

How are you doing is the question!

Will you remind me?

OK, I just got an idea for a lawn sign…

John McCain
Get Off of My Lawn!

Cottage cheese white letters on a jello green background.

Petro!

I have been on drive by status for a while.

Neuro, f*cking-A right I am.

-G

I cannot remain in a comments section that tolerates such disrespect for St. John McInsane.

‘nite, all.

here’s a little surprise for the lurkmeister.

Night, sweets.

sure loohoo but i don’t expect you to come up from so cal

CRAP!
Suzanne – the mod is yours, while I go chirp. I will most likely be a spell.

SPEW!

Suz! Pass the brain bleach, I’m blind!

(Nighters neuro.)

^5 neuro

John McCain, How DARE you question anything he says?

-G

brain bleach at all entrances and exits to the lake, as well as all power strips.

Go chirp is a new one on me. And something tells me I don’t want to get any on me!

nite neuro

Are you questioning John McCain’s integrity?

There was an ex-Senator (D) on Moyers last night (which is broadcast here in the ultra-desirable 2:00 A.M. slot) who said that McLme *is* a man of integrity. Said that Johnny looks real unhappy on this campaign, because “they” are trying to turn him into a Republican!

McLame looks tired – I make it even money on w/n he even makes it to the convention without some kind of physical breakdown. His mind is already on the fritz big-time.

That was brutal, neuro! Aloha!

It’d make a really nice bumper sticker, too. And a button.

F*ck McCrepit.

sorry for not saying g’nite neuro – i was laughing too hard

Mayer was awesome on Moyers! ;-)

someone suggested McC*nt

John McCain, How DARE you question anything he says?

-G

That is part of the problem nobody has been speaking truth to power nobody is calling them on their lies or delusions in fact they seem to like doing pushback against reality?

,i>Mayer was awesome on Moyers! ;-)

yeah she was. She *should* be on every talking head show tomorrow.

I emphasize *should*.

Shouldn’t the entire country know that high government officials were afraid for their personal safety if they crossed Cheney? (among all of the other stuff in her book of course)

Remember when McCain’s “Golf Store” comments were taken over by DFH?

– comedy gold.

I hope someone archived them

Heh.

I kind of like McLumpy, too.

Hey, a whole planet full of folks are saying that under their breath.

“McC*nt the Troll(op)” to be precise !

G’nite all !

Have a Great Week !!!

Double-standard media. Bush had no trouble floating the “angry” meme in 2000. Can’t get a toe-hold with that these days.

Another nation chimes in.
Much gratitude, petro.

evening all – just catching up.

Sweet dreams, Petro.

g’nite petro

nite, petro.

Subdudes – with a couple of lil feat-friends…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzu2utwhlSM

I found some at John Coles.

good lowrd!!

Great Point the GOP can be angry but we can’t, Fox can compare Move On to the Klan as a hate group? Has Move On killed anybody?
Nope the worse they have done is hurt Bush and General Petraeus’s feelings.
By pointing out the truth.

“I’m voting for the black guy.”
OMG, funny!

They’re angry.

We’re shrill.

/s

The Bush aide said this “reality-based community” consists of people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” Suskind nodded in agreement and muttered something favorable about the principles of the Enlightenment, only to be cut off by the aide.

“That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” the Bush aide told the journalist. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality – judiciously, as you will – we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to study what we do.”

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/101904.html

*dancing in chair*

late at nite

They wouldn’t be able to do it without the media.

no one recognized the truth when it was spoken back then – just like bush’s as long as i’m the dictator ‘joke’.

We did.

A gradual crawl to the bottom, punctuated by occasional shocks to the system.
If they had tried to do this all at once, it never would have worked.
I’m still hoping that hubris makes them fatally overplay their hand. And soon.

Hubris, sometimes spelled hybris (ancient Greek ὕβρις), is a term used in modern English to indicate overweening pride, self-confidence, superciliousness, or arrogance, often resulting in fatal retribution. In ancient Greece, hubris referred to actions which, intentionally or not, shamed and humiliated the victim, and frequently the perpetrator as well. It was most evident in the public and private actions of the powerful and rich. The word was also used to describe actions of those who challenged the gods or their laws, especially in Greek tragedy, resulting in the protagonist’s downfall.[citation needed]

Hubris, though not specifically defined, was a legal term and was considered a crime in classical Athens. It was also considered the greatest sin of the ancient Greek world. That was so because it not only was proof of excessive pride, but also resulted in violent acts by or to those involved. The category of acts constituting hubris for the ancient Greeks apparently broadened from the original specific reference to mutilation of a corpse, or a humiliation of a defeated foe, or irreverent “outrageous treatment” in general

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris

My Bold and Italics

Is defining reality to your own beliefs and desires in Contradiction with realty Hubris? Is claiming God’s sanction for your acts when they go against every moral code I can think of Hubris?

Apolitical Blues.

Yes.

some of us realized the truth sooner than others. 911 opened my eyes. katrina opened others. the economy is opening more.

oh yeah!

this is onna my fav feats

Woo-Hoo, I was just checking my sound card and my speakers out, somehow it was on mute and with a little tinkering on my speaker cord I’m enjoying Suz’s Skynyrd UTube…!

The election theft in 2000 got my attention. 911 sealed the deal.

Per NYT’s SABRINA TAVERNISE:

The militia that was once the biggest defender of poor Shiites in Iraq, the Mahdi Army, has been profoundly weakened in a number of neighborhoods across Baghdad, in an important, if tentative, milestone for stability in Iraq.

It is a remarkable change from years past, when the militia, led by the anti-American cleric Moktada al-Sadr, controlled a broad swath of Baghdad, including local governments and police forces. But its use of extortion and violence began alienating much of the Shiite population to the point that many quietly supported American military sweeps against the group.

[…]

Sounds like Villager propaganda to me. Does anyone have hard info one way or the other?

Yee-forking-haw!

doncha hate that!!!

glad you have ears again ct

That, and Fat Man in the Bathtub. But then, I like all Feats.

that’s a more accurate statement and yes, that is how i became aware.

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They wouldn’t be able to do it without the media.
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no one recognized the truth when it was spoken back then – just like bush’s as long as i’m the dictator ‘joke’.

Suz almost nobody realized what was going on heck I read and believed everything Judy Miller wrote sure I was against the war and Bush but she had people like me convinced it was necessary.

WangDang As the war went on on we never found WMD, we were never greeted as liberators as Bush’s lies fell apart the media’s roles as Shills became apparent.

A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services or a political group, who pretends no association to the seller/group and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer. The intention of the shill is, using crowd psychology, to encourage others unaware of the set-up to purchase said goods or services or support the political group’s ideological claims. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. In the UK the term plant is also used.

Shilling is illegal in many circumstances and in many jurisdictions because of the frequently fraudulent and damaging character of their actions. However, if a shill does not place uninformed parties at a risk of loss, but merely generates “buzz”, the shill’s actions may be legal. For example, a person planted in an audience to laugh and applaud when appropriate (see “claque”) or to participate in on-stage activities as a “random member of the audience”, is a type of legal shill.

“Shill” can also be used pejoratively to describe a critic who appears either all-too-eager to heap glowing praise upon mediocre offerings, or who acts as an apologist for glaring flaws. In this sense, they would be an implicit “shill” for the industry at large, as their income is tied to its prosperity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill

A couple of threads back Du of GG popped in and he and I chatted after everybody went upstairs and he was saying Basrah is about to explode…! I think the Grey Lady and Tavernise are drunk on the Koolaid…!

If ChimpCo can keep the teevee cameras out, we will never know it. Any bets?

i have a bad feeling about it being a bad summer

Shills in journalism

The term is applied metaphorically to journalists or commentators who have vested interests in or associations with parties in a controversial issue. Usually this takes the form of a show or network pretending to be offering news when in fact they are simply repeating talking points offered by a political party.

In addition, there have been some notorious news conferences, such as the U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency conference in which agency staffers posed as news reporters. Shill reporters have also been used in White House briefings.

Journalistic ethics require full disclosure of conflicts of interest, and of any interference by other parties with the reportage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill

This sounds like all those Generals who got Rummy’s talking points, and almost the entire MSM.

damn – thank you!

Pardon me – “we” meaning America in broad terms.

The election theft in 2000 got my attention. 911 sealed the deal.

Things, I cried myself to sleep March 19, 2003.

Heh, you must’ve snuck over and read today’s post, eh?

Got some quotes this sounds interesting scary any idea what could trigger it? LEFTY Intel on Iraq has a much better record than Bush intel.

Shills, from KO this past Friday…
Like we didn’t already know…

I just felt like a fool I’m not sure whats worse.

Right. We’ll find it in the foreign press. Joe and Jane will not be aware. Or will be propagandized up the ass.

on ian’s thread.. let me find ya the link here it is..

scroll down toward the bottom

And we’ll be here Sundays at 6pm FDL time for what’s really happening.

found the comment, thinks. this link will take ya right to it

The election theft in 2000 got my attention. 911 sealed the deal.

Leonard Cohen – Everybody Knows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh9AC0jCGjY

And I’m out. #1 Son might get more than one phone call tomorrow, so *after* he calls his girlfriend, I might get to talk to him.

Nite all.
Hey, at least I’m in his top 5! *g*

ok, pups, that does it for me. g’nite all and thanks for hanging out with me tonight.

Many factions are really pissed at the GZG and their inability to enact critical legislation or provide any tangible relief… The elections are postponed now from Oct. 1st to Dec. 22nd and nobody is thrilled about that, Sadr and some of Dawa that split from Maliki are pissed at Maliki and Hakim’s ISCI party’s grandiose scheme to merge 3-4 southern provinces into one super province, and I can go on about the lack of electricity, food, medicine, water…. Ad Nauseum… However, Parliament did agree to build a 5 star hotel in the Green Zone…!

nite suz
pack in your dreams for this one night

Its more than the Fox network Tweety has had lots of Republican guests who have said the same exact thing that O’Reily and Hannity were saying we need to subpoena all of this!
All the networks are shills even PBS Bill Moyers and KO are fig leafs.

Hi CT. Thanks. That’s pretty much what I expected.

So, who is “Du of GG”?

Aloha, Suz! Sleep tight!

Its more than the Fox network…

No argument.

Du, Dubhaltach is this guy.

Violations of the law against hubris included what might today be termed assault and battery; sexual crimes ranging from forcible rape of women or children to consensual but improper activities, in particular anal sex with a man or a boy; or the theft of public or sacred property. Two well-known cases are found in the speeches of Demosthenes, a prominent statesman and orator in ancient Greece. These two examples occurred when first, Meidias punched Demosthenes in the face in the theater (Against Meidias), and second when (in Against Konon) a defendant allegedly assaulted a man and crowed over the victim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris

Abu Graib

The “selection” said we were going to war — didn’t clearly identify with whom. Universal hatred was being sown. Who coulda guessed we were going to war against a tactic.

Heh, ya beat me to it, I had to go back to check the spelling of Dubhaltach…

Nighters, jayt. Sweet dreams.

And happy dreams to you too, Suz.

Aloha, Jay!

And that’s why Bush was selected.

*spit*

It’s Sunday and I’m feeling Gospel.

I know I’ve spun this one before, but I likes it lots.

Thanks Suz Nite:)

Hi Newt. Thanks. Interesting comments from that guy.

All this talk of Hubris suggests a tragedy is in the making. Is hubris a self destructive psychological pattern described in myth?
And can anyone deny that we are trapped in this pattern?

I’m certain I misspelled it the first 25 times.

Tcu, here’s some sites RoadstoIraq, here’s Badger all excellent Lefty Intel…! ;-)

I could point ya to some more good sites, if ya want!

Du works for me and him…! ;-)

We know they have destroyed themselves already – whether it haunts their dreams in the years that follow and rots their “souls,” or they are publicly excoriated and ruined (to be hoped for but less likely), or they’re so bereft of conscious thought that they blissfully run the gauntlet of their escape plans – they are no longer people.

A tragedy has been in the making for a while now. Not sure of the cause, but the outcome has my nickers in a knot.

Talk about “ground truth”

Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

* Anonymous ancient proverb, wrongly attributed to Euripides. The version here is quoted as a “heathen proverb” in Daniel, a Model for Young Men (1854) by William Anderson Scott. The origin of the misattribution to Euripides is unknown. Several variants are quoted in ancient texts, as follows.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Euripides

There is no doubt as to the madness of King George and the Dark Lord Cheney
but will they take us down with them?
They probably will if the Democrats keep waiting for Obama by the time Obama becomes President it may be to late.

they are no longer people

If they ever were.

Thanks I’ll bookmark these two. But Lefty intel is not limited to being right on the war its about being right on the economy, global warming, social issues EVERYTHING:)

I’m beginning to think there are no democrats. Just repubicans and neocons.

They probably will if the Democrats keep waiting for Obama by the time Obama becomes President it may be to late.

Daschle. Gephart.
Laid down and stayed there. But to be fair, I doubt the Democrats as a group had the stuff to stand up.
They aren’t waiting for Obama – they are waiting to be forgiven by history.

I’m finding that I have quite a few differences with Obama’s friend, colleague, and mentor, Cass Sunstein.

Per Article II of the Constitution:

[The President] shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed …

The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

As I understand it, failure to fulfill the duties of one’s office is considered a “high crime.” So, if our next president fails to prosecute the criminals within the Bush Administration, he is not taking care that the laws be faithfully executed, and should therefore be impeached, even if his initials are BHO.

Have you talked to Spiderpaws about the blackholes in Cheney’s star chart?
“Lost my whole to the shadows of the night ” Ronnie James Dio describes Darth perfect

We know they have destroyed themselves already – whether it haunts their dreams in the years that follow and rots their “souls,” or they are publicly excoriated and ruined (to be hoped for but less likely), or they’re so bereft of conscious thought that they blissfully run the gauntlet of their escape plans – they are no longer people.

Your choice of language almost suggests poetry…Tragic Poetry.

Thats why we are supporting Blue America:)

It’s late, and boiled-down is what we do here when it’s late. You know that better than most.

I’m none to thrilled with Obama’s rhetoric on Iran either… It’s chilling to think he’s bought into the Iran is seeking nukes meme…!

Cass Sunstein.

If Marcy and Christy were not so busy with the crimes of the Bush administration they would be the ones to take this clown down.
You don’t have to be a weatherman lawyer to know which way the wind blows what is right or wrong.
Bush should be impeached FISA is wrong.

boiled-down?

You know Addington and his crew. They have this gamed years ahead. They know how to walk, and they expect to.

The tragedy won’t be if they walk, although it would be a blight on the Nation – it will be if they leave a broken state behind, and they are well on their way.

OK, distilled.
If it sounded poetic, it was unintentional. But thanks.

Personally, I think the FISA BS is small potatoes compared to Iraq, Torture and Renditions in the scope of impeachable offenses… Not to belittle the FISA fiasco, but…

No its good it suggests a subconscious understanding of whats going on from which greater insights might flow. But yes at Late Late Nite we all do tend to serve up the distilled truth at 200 proof:)

Yup. I’ve seen nothing but insults since 9/11. They make me take off my shoes in airports.

I agree small potatoes we have a plethora of riches for which to impeach.
I think we should do the quick and easy to prove charges to impeach first like FISA.
Then use the trial to stall for more time to get all the dirt we can on the big stuff like torture and war crimes.
Unless Bush gets smart and resigns like Nixon did. Bush will be looking to pardon himself somehow before he leaves but how?

I get what you’re saying. Still, somehow legislating to excuse – heck, validate – criminal behavior on a massive and unconstitutional level strikes at a something different. When they attacked and occupied Iraq, tortured and rendered, they used slight-of-hand. FISA, though, is like amending the Constitution. It seems more central and long-lasting.

OK, distilled.
If it sounded poetic, it was unintentional. But thanks.

Well Tragic Poetic wording is worrying if you are tapping the subconscious
it might Portend Something.

Make no mistake – I am scared to death.
They have shocked and surprised us with their audacity and zeal and bravado and feckless leadership every step of the way.
I have no idea what they have planned for their escape, but it will be directly proportional to the American peoples willingness to shop instead of be citizens, and this Congress’s diminished portfolio of courage.

I agree with what you’re saying to a point, however, it wasn’t sleight of hand, they rewrote long standing basic premises to civilized behavior, Torture, for example was rewritten to virtually allow for any torture… Renditions go up against the fundamental premises laid out in the Magna Carta in regards to Habeus Corpus… etc…

Well, I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

nite tuttle

Any word on the Diaries?

Nite CTuttle

You have the metrics to measure the size of the Tragedy I think but no idea as to the form it will take? I’m guessing nobody else knows either.
Well Good nite:)

Good Nite sorry I need edit to come back.

nite things
i’m swimming for shore, too
nite pups

Good morning. I’m up. Anyone else?

Up and looking toward a typical summer Sunday in Iowa

Good morning Gregory. What’s on your agenda for today?

BTW, Amy Goodman’s speaking on CSPAN2 right now.

Off to my paint job.

Agreed about the ranking:
– FISA is a violation of the U.S. Constitution and federal law that they appear to have covered by lobbying Congress.
– Torture and Rendition are war crimes and violations of Senate- ratified international treaties (which by Article VI are equivalent to federal laws)
– The invasion of Iraq is a “war of aggression,” which is a crime against humanity. Ben Ferencz, one of the Nuremberg prosectors, has been very eloquent on why War of Aggression is the greatest of all crimes: http://www.benferencz.org/arts/93b.html

If Marcy and Christy were not so busy with the crimes of the Bush administration they would be the ones to take this clown down.

Jane did a bit of that in her interview of Bruce Fein on bloggingheads.tv: Fein called Sunstein’s stated position, “nonsense on stilts.”

Meanwhile, Glenzilla has been hitting him pretty hard, and Jonathan Turley has had a few things to say.

In a society with a rational press, they’d be playing Sunstein 24/7 on an endless tape the way they did Reverend Wright, all the while hounding Obama with the single question, “Do you love the Constitution that you’ll be swearing to protect and defend?”, until they forced Obama to throw Sunstein under the bus. That would be a rational press.