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	<title>Comments on: FDL Book Salon Welcome Barbara Ehrenreich: This Land Is Their Land</title>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/26/fdl-book-salon-welcome-barbara-ehrenreich-this-land-is-their-land/#comment-1557164</link>
		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Spocko, I followed your work on Disney.  That was excellent work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think massive rallies-apart from achieving something instantaneously-give people a feeling of community.  The I am Not Alone sense that we all need.  Add some music, some flags/armbands/leading speakers and people will more inclined to vote the right way.  They will “belong”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just my sense from back in the day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spocko, I followed your work on Disney.  That was excellent work.</p>
<p>I think massive rallies-apart from achieving something instantaneously-give people a feeling of community.  The I am Not Alone sense that we all need.  Add some music, some flags/armbands/leading speakers and people will more inclined to vote the right way.  They will “belong”.</p>
<p>Just my sense from back in the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/26/fdl-book-salon-welcome-barbara-ehrenreich-this-land-is-their-land/#comment-1557163</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you, Barbara, Stirling and Bev for another great Book Salon!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Barbara, Stirling and Bev for another great Book Salon!</p>
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		<title>By: Stirling Newberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stirling Newberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This has been a great discussion, I want to remind everyone that if you want to help FireDogLake, to use the links on the site to purchase Barbara’s books so that part of the proceeds will go to help supporting the site.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been a great discussion, I want to remind everyone that if you want to help FireDogLake, to use the links on the site to purchase Barbara’s books so that part of the proceeds will go to help supporting the site.</p>
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		<title>By: spocko</title>
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		<dc:creator>spocko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Loo Hoo. Question. Are massive protests effective? I always ask myself the question. “What will it get to either get someone to change or force someone to change.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A protest can raise awareness and maybe even change minds, but I often look at history and try and see what it ACTUALLY was that made the change happen. Protest was often part of it but not the only piece.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I try and put myself in the shoes of the people doing what they are doing and ask, “What will take for them to change?” Can they be persuaded? If so, how? If not why not? Then can they be forced? How? What will it take to force them to change. What is the fulcrum? It’s not the same for every situation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I went to the advertisers of the Disney station K S F O I tried to think what would stop them from supporting these hosts. And I knew that there were things that they SAID that they believed in that was in conflict with these hosts. Now some could say that they are meaningless BS mission statements, but they are also things that might get them in trouble LEGALLY if say for example they support people are are pro-discrimination. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It tried to give them multiple reasons both hard and soft to not support these people.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loo Hoo. Question. Are massive protests effective? I always ask myself the question. “What will it get to either get someone to change or force someone to change.”</p>
<p>A protest can raise awareness and maybe even change minds, but I often look at history and try and see what it ACTUALLY was that made the change happen. Protest was often part of it but not the only piece.</p>
<p>I try and put myself in the shoes of the people doing what they are doing and ask, “What will take for them to change?” Can they be persuaded? If so, how? If not why not? Then can they be forced? How? What will it take to force them to change. What is the fulcrum? It’s not the same for every situation.</p>
<p>When I went to the advertisers of the Disney station K S F O I tried to think what would stop them from supporting these hosts. And I knew that there were things that they SAID that they believed in that was in conflict with these hosts. Now some could say that they are meaningless BS mission statements, but they are also things that might get them in trouble LEGALLY if say for example they support people are are pro-discrimination. </p>
<p>It tried to give them multiple reasons both hard and soft to not support these people.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Was it New Hampshire that took Chavez’ offer for free oil?  Good for them!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it New Hampshire that took Chavez’ offer for free oil?  Good for them!</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have read elsewhere that this week’s gaffe-free foreign trip, having inoculated Obama on CinC test and the looking-Presidential test, will allow him to concentrate on economic issues.  I sure hope our nominee gets a call from John and Elizabeth Edwards soon, reminding him about his promises about poverty, health care, and hunger in America.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s time for him to start talking about that stuff.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read elsewhere that this week’s gaffe-free foreign trip, having inoculated Obama on CinC test and the looking-Presidential test, will allow him to concentrate on economic issues.  I sure hope our nominee gets a call from John and Elizabeth Edwards soon, reminding him about his promises about poverty, health care, and hunger in America.  </p>
<p>It’s time for him to start talking about that stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Barbara and Stirling and Bev!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is Personal Days written by you, Barbara?  I thought you mentioned an Ed Park?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Barbara and Stirling and Bev!</p>
<p>Is Personal Days written by you, Barbara?  I thought you mentioned an Ed Park?</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much, Barbara and Stirling.  (love your name Stirling!)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much, Barbara and Stirling.  (love your name Stirling!)</p>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ian Welsh is upstairs!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/26/republicans-vote-against-lower-oil-and-gas-prices-and-for-illegal-immigration-and-more-american-troop-deaths/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Republicans Vote Against Lower Oil and Gas Prices and for Illegal Immigration and More American Troop Deaths&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian Welsh is upstairs!<br /><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/26/republicans-vote-against-lower-oil-and-gas-prices-and-for-illegal-immigration-and-more-american-troop-deaths/" rel="nofollow">Republicans Vote Against Lower Oil and Gas Prices and for Illegal Immigration and More American Troop Deaths</a></p>
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		<title>By: marymccurnin</title>
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		<dc:creator>marymccurnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We are having a crime wave in my neighborhood. We also have five houses in four blocks in default. I am organizing a neighborhood watch and we are going to pool our resources in several ways. One way is to keep an eye out on the elderly. Several old men passed away this year and their wives need to know we are watching out for them. We are also installing video cameras along two blocks and posting signs stating such. (The fat cats are spying on us and we are spying on the little crooks) The best thing that has happened is this wonderful feeling of having friends all around us.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are having a crime wave in my neighborhood. We also have five houses in four blocks in default. I am organizing a neighborhood watch and we are going to pool our resources in several ways. One way is to keep an eye out on the elderly. Several old men passed away this year and their wives need to know we are watching out for them. We are also installing video cameras along two blocks and posting signs stating such. (The fat cats are spying on us and we are spying on the little crooks) The best thing that has happened is this wonderful feeling of having friends all around us.</p>
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