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	<title>Comments on: California Senate President Perata on Schwarzenegger   &#8220;if he wants a fight, he&#8217;s going to have a fight!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: hawkseye36</title>
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		<dc:creator>hawkseye36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The last time Arnold declared war on teachers, nurses, firefighters, etc., he got his butt kicked.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He introduced four initiatives (or was it five?) that were on the November ballot, and all went down to crashing defeat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The day after the election, SF Chronicle’s headline was “NO, NO, NO and NO!” in the largest font ever used.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It did my heart good.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, Arnie seems to want to repeat this show.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Teachers are running commercials, wall to wall, and it’s shaping up to be a good, one-sided fight.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maria will have to bail out Arnie again as she did before. Arnie hired some conservative democrats to help him manage his administration and Big Mouth.  But, obviously, he doesn’t listen to them, or they must have quit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time Arnold declared war on teachers, nurses, firefighters, etc., he got his butt kicked.</p>
<p>He introduced four initiatives (or was it five?) that were on the November ballot, and all went down to crashing defeat.</p>
<p>The day after the election, SF Chronicle’s headline was “NO, NO, NO and NO!” in the largest font ever used.</p>
<p>It did my heart good.</p>
<p>Now, Arnie seems to want to repeat this show.</p>
<p>Teachers are running commercials, wall to wall, and it’s shaping up to be a good, one-sided fight.</p>
<p>Maria will have to bail out Arnie again as she did before. Arnie hired some conservative democrats to help him manage his administration and Big Mouth.  But, obviously, he doesn’t listen to them, or they must have quit.</p>
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		<title>By: hawkseye36</title>
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		<dc:creator>hawkseye36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And Demokcrat Jerry Brown was no better.  Brown destroyed California education and the premier health care system in the U.S.  Brown copied what he saw as the success of Raygun.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Demokcrat Jerry Brown was no better.  Brown destroyed California education and the premier health care system in the U.S.  Brown copied what he saw as the success of Raygun.</p>
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		<title>By: PraedorAtrebates</title>
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		<dc:creator>PraedorAtrebates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;New rule: socialize the loss, socialize the gains.  We’re all in this together (or get the hell out of the country if you don’t want to be in the “together”).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New rule: socialize the loss, socialize the gains.  We’re all in this together (or get the hell out of the country if you don’t want to be in the “together”).</p>
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		<title>By: PraedorAtrebates</title>
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		<dc:creator>PraedorAtrebates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just another move in the whole Norquist Nonsense about shrinking government so it can be drowned in a bathtub.  This is a straight-up attack on the public sector in hopes of finagling privatization up the wazoo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Increase taxes on the wealthy!  Re-progressive-ise the tax system.  It is the only fair and &lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt; way to play this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another move in the whole Norquist Nonsense about shrinking government so it can be drowned in a bathtub.  This is a straight-up attack on the public sector in hopes of finagling privatization up the wazoo.</p>
<p>Increase taxes on the wealthy!  Re-progressive-ise the tax system.  It is the only fair and <i>just</i> way to play this.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
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		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Privatize the gains; socialize the losses.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Privatize the gains; socialize the losses.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chicago Boys (Milton Friedman) freemarket economy policy. Cut state workers and contract out the work. And takeaway Suzanne’s pension&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chicago Boys (Milton Friedman) freemarket economy policy. Cut state workers and contract out the work. And takeaway Suzanne’s pension</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Welsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;*shrug*  So, he’s a corrupt bastard.  He said the right thing, at the right time.  Reward good behaviour and all that.  I agree he’ll probably cave, but eh, the CDP overall is completely worthless.  Still, when I see signs of fight for a change, I like to reward them and by so doing encourage people to do more right things. Dog training, iow.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ll remember your suggestion, as well, and allow it to inform my future judgement.  Pity you weren’t around in 2004 to tell me to never take up US blogging.  Would have saved me tens of thousands of dollars.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*shrug*  So, he’s a corrupt bastard.  He said the right thing, at the right time.  Reward good behaviour and all that.  I agree he’ll probably cave, but eh, the CDP overall is completely worthless.  Still, when I see signs of fight for a change, I like to reward them and by so doing encourage people to do more right things. Dog training, iow.</p>
<p>I’ll remember your suggestion, as well, and allow it to inform my future judgement.  Pity you weren’t around in 2004 to tell me to never take up US blogging.  Would have saved me tens of thousands of dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
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		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;…the new leader, Darrell Steinberg, who’s a good public servant, is waiting in the wings, and he’ll be installed August 11&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I went to High School with Steinberg. Good guy then, good guy now.&lt;br /&gt;
I fear for him in that viper pit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>…the new leader, Darrell Steinberg, who’s a good public servant, is waiting in the wings, and he’ll be installed August 11</p>
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<p>I went to High School with Steinberg. Good guy then, good guy now.<br />
I fear for him in that viper pit.</p>
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		<title>By: dday</title>
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		<dc:creator>dday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, so Ian, you might want to stick to Canadian politics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perata is a corrupt bastard.  There won’t be any war.  In fact, it’s quite likely that this is all kabuki theater and the fix is in.  Perata has scheduled a budget vote for Tuesday.  There’s been no negotiation, no committee report, nothing.  In Cali, there’s way too much power invested in the leadership, making them far more cozy with each other than loyal to their party.  Perata just got bought off by the state Dem party to the tune of $250,000 that went right into his legal defense fund for an ongoing FBI investigation.  He shouldn’t even BE in power anymore; the new leader, Darrell Steinberg, who’s a good public servant, is waiting in the wings, and he’ll be installed August 11.  Perata wants a budget done well before then so he can leave Sacramento and leave it up to the Assembly to sort things out.  He is not a friend.  He is not reliable.  He is likely about to sell us out and push through a budget with very deep cuts.  Arnold made a huge mistake but notice that the CDP hasn’t even sent out ANYTHING criticizing the decision.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Something’s up, and talk is extremely cheap.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so Ian, you might want to stick to Canadian politics.</p>
<p>Perata is a corrupt bastard.  There won’t be any war.  In fact, it’s quite likely that this is all kabuki theater and the fix is in.  Perata has scheduled a budget vote for Tuesday.  There’s been no negotiation, no committee report, nothing.  In Cali, there’s way too much power invested in the leadership, making them far more cozy with each other than loyal to their party.  Perata just got bought off by the state Dem party to the tune of $250,000 that went right into his legal defense fund for an ongoing FBI investigation.  He shouldn’t even BE in power anymore; the new leader, Darrell Steinberg, who’s a good public servant, is waiting in the wings, and he’ll be installed August 11.  Perata wants a budget done well before then so he can leave Sacramento and leave it up to the Assembly to sort things out.  He is not a friend.  He is not reliable.  He is likely about to sell us out and push through a budget with very deep cuts.  Arnold made a huge mistake but notice that the CDP hasn’t even sent out ANYTHING criticizing the decision.</p>
<p>Something’s up, and talk is extremely cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Badda bing!!! *G* &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not that I’d advocate a populous action of the masses to demonstrate their anger at the losses they’ve incurred in 30 years of futile leadership of this country and it’s FUCKIN PEOPLE!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not me, nope. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Badda bing!!! *G* </p>
<p>Not that I’d advocate a populous action of the masses to demonstrate their anger at the losses they’ve incurred in 30 years of futile leadership of this country and it’s FUCKIN PEOPLE!</p>
<p>Not me, nope. </p>
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