Because he said genocide is not a reason to keep troops in Iraq. Or so concludes the McCain campaign:
"Well, look, if that’s the criteria by which we are making decisions on the deployment of U.S. forces," said Obama, "then by that argument you would have 300,000 troops in the Congo right now."
The message was fairly explicit: Obama’s commitment to stopping future Holocausts is in doubt. Asked for clarification, McCain aide Michael Goldfarb responded:
"Today he says ‘never again.’ A year ago stopping genocide wasn’t a good enough reason to keep U.S. forces in Iraq. Doesn’t that strike you as inconsistent?"
And as the proxy war for Florida continues, Robert Wexler says McCain’s statements are "shameful" and "unconscionable."
No doubt McCain will stick his hand up Lieberman’s dress and that old fool will start flapping his lips and say something stupid at any moment.
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Hi Jane!
McShutthef*ckup
Everything McCane is saying is stupid. Everything. Have you ever seen such a contrast between candidates in your life? This is good fun!
Ask McCain if the Palestinians being killed by our weapons are human too!
Ask McCain how many people do you have to kill for it to be Genocide or is it enough just to watch and do nothing to be guilty!
Does Do onto others as you would have them do onto you seem to Liberal a Concept!
Maybe Holy Joe can explain the Ten Commandments to us Bloggers THE TEN COMMANDMENTS — EXODUS 20:1- 17
1) “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”
2) “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,”
3) “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain;”
4) “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.”
5) “Honor thy father and thy mother:”
6) “Thou shalt not kill.“
7) “Thou shalt not commit adultery”
8) “Thou shalt not steal.”
9) “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
10) “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house,…..nor anything that is thy neighbor’s
http://www.angelfire.com/nv/Th…..book4.html
My Bold
He’s coming across as doddering and desperate. Not a good combination.
Hi Mod my comment at 4 reads
Ask McCain how do you have to kill people for it to be Genocide or is it enough just to watch and do nothing to be guilty!
it should read
Ask McCain how many people do you have to kill people for it to be Genocide or is it enough just to watch and do nothing to be guilty!
Thank You
Maybe it’s just me, but there most be something in the name Goldfarb
Republicans have decided to eliminate #9
The Supremes have decided to eliminate #8.
Someone should ask McCain if he has ever apologized for Slavery? Or is McCain not tough enough on Slavery!
You have to love this headline from Faux news:
Fox News Poll: No Bounce for Obama from Overseas Trip
Only Faux News would run this headline while the candidate is still OVERSEAS! Doh.
Oh wait there would go all the 30%ers that he is still trying to win over despite winning the Republican Primary how many months ago?
Maybe his response should have been: “Look. we haven’t been very good at preventing genocide even with all of our troops there.”
Yeah wait until the weekend cause most folks haven’t seen the news they are at work.
Oh wait Fox Viewers don’t work they are lobbyists, war profiteers who like to lock girls in shipping containers, electrocute our solders in Iraq while taking a shower, build substandard helmets, and take how long to get all our troops bullet proof vests!
Nate at 838:
“there is an increasingly large body of evidence that Obama is now polling somewhere between 3-4 points off his peak numbers. In the grand scheme of things, that doesn’t mean all that much — it means that perhaps 1 in every 60 strangers you encounter on the street has switched from Obama to McCain within the last month. The more relevant question is where the downtrend dates from. If you look at our tracking graph, it seems to have started — or at least steepened — coming out of the July 4 holiday, when some of the Obama is a flip-flopper narrative began to take root. I am less convinced that Obama is getting an anti-bounce out of his trip abroad, and would remind you that their is a lagged effect before certain stories take hold, particularly in the dog days of the summer when the public’s attention span for campaign coverage is limited.
The alternate hypothesis is that this is simply a reflection of McCain’s greater investments in advertising in the early campaign, something we’ll explore at greater length soon.”
No doubt McCain will stick his hand up Lieberman’s dress and that old fool will start flapping his lips and say something stupid at any moment.
Jane you owe me a new monitor, mine is covered with lunch now.
I don’t think I’m the only one thinking that Obama’s not being concerned enough with hypothetical holocausts in the Congo will not lose him Jewish support, while McCain’s intruding on the ceremony at Yad Vashem with these crass comments conceivably might.
Because he said genocide is not a reason to keep troops in Iraq. Or so concludes the McCain campaign:
How many people have we killed and tortured in Iraq? At what point does what we are doing become Genocide? Is there a certain percentage of the population we must kill?
If the only way we can stop the Iraqis from committing Genocide is to Do It Ourselves then yes we should leave Iraq.
By McCain’s logic a parent should stop their kids from doing drugs by smoking their entire stash:)
I concur. I am also becoming very skeptical of these polls showing McCain “narrowing the gap” in key swing states. Note the Fox poll only polled 900 registered voters. Since Fox paid for it, I imagine the 900 were fox viewers.
The media is going to try and play this thing as close for as long as they can. I’m not buying it though.
I’m not buying it either.
Peace comes to California:
http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..-soon.html
Also a preview of what’s going up tomorrow in LA.
McCain’s nastiness is showing more and more everyday….nasty, icky creepleman.
Bye People nice day must go for a walk:)
The last poll I saw a couple of days ago said that Obama leads McC by 8 points. For what it’s worth.
It is obviously BS.
I saw most of Obama’s speech live. It was good. All the beltway pundits were saying that Obama’s trip had been so successful that he should just cancel Germany and come home.
Unless I missed something, Obama may have hit this one out of the park. It may rank up there with Kennedy’s “Ich ein Berliner” speech. McInsane will have a hard time making a case that Obama is too inexperienced to work on the world stage now.
If the polls don’t show McCain tanking during the next week, I just don’t know what is wrong with the American people. It will be a demonstration of the power of the low information voter, I guess.
Bob in HI
I didn’t see the speech but I read it and it was excellent…The interesting question is how many americans will read it OR watch it…it’s summer doldrums so perhaps not many.
Read 838 for a good candid look at the polls. Nate who runs the place is a dem I believe- but he calls em as he sees em and at the moment we’re seeing a slight movement in McBush’s direction. Typically none of this early polling really matters- what will matter is how we stand in September when the campaign starts for real- but it’s best not to just ignore the polling-
I really don’t know much about polling but is 900 people a good sampling?
And who’s Opinion Dynamics?
The Media will interpret it for them. They ought to be able to do it in 30 seconds or so
The network news has covered Barack twice as much as McCain since June according to newly released numbers. Once they actually cover McCain and all his gaffes, Barack’s lead in the polls will widen. Most viewers don’t know who John McCain is. Of course, I’m not sure that John McCain knows who he is at this point.
900 is a pretty typical sample size- they usually go for 1,000 in a nationwide poll but they don’t always get it on time..900 provides about the same margin of error.
Hard to say how many people are aware of the McBush gaffes- but reporters are and that is critical. If the reporters covering him reach the conclusion that he’s not fit to be president- it’s all over fer the good ol boy.
“McInsane will have a hard time making a case that Obama is too inexperienced to work on the world stage now.”
That talking point is gone now, vanished into the ether like so many White House emails. Obama’s got his foreign policy cred sewn up now. And if there’s any doubt, he’ll pick as his running mate a foreign policy “mentor-type” like Nunn, Clark, or even Richardson.
After the conventions it will all come back to the economy. And unless Obama starts giving press conferences in front of the dairy or Jello section of Safeway, he’s our next President.
McBush is outspending Obama on ads at the moment- and they are VERY negative. No doubt they are testing messages to find the ones that move the needle the most. They’ll be ready to go when September comes.
When Obama and Clinton were going at it that was the reason given for the lack of coverage Now? I think it may be see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil
Will the Republics dump him and nominate someone else?
No doubt McCain will stick his hand up Lieberman’s dress and that old fool will start flapping his lips and say something stupid at any moment.
More in sorrow than in anger.
Not because he has left his his party, but yada yada yada
DOW plummets 300 points as investors realize that there are nearly six more months of the Clusterfuck administration.
But, but, but magical tax cuts always fix everything.
This election will probably come down to whether or not there are a majority of americans who are prepared to vote for an african-american for president. The rest is window dressing.
There’s no comparison in the two candidates- and Obama is not taking radical positions. McCain has actually run a piss poor campaign so far- it comes down to race.
Maybe George H.W. Bush was telling him he has to go and that’s why McCain looked so grim.
Hi techies: the link in this sentence is broken:
Robert Wexler says McCain’s statements are “shameful” and “unconscionable.”
Did they ever give ay reason for the cancellation of this “press opportunity?” That seemed strange to me.
Just wait until the debates.
Swopa’s upstairs!
New Swopa
Earth to Swopa-
McCain will be wired but it won’t help.
Try again…Swopa!
also petulant and churlish.
It’s not just the Congo. Re genocide, one word: Darfur.
From my scandals list:
It has been 4 years this week since Congress declared Darfur genocide and we have seen all the action that George Bush and John McCain have taken on that, haven’t we?
For what it’s worth, I agree. Race is so powerful a motivator, it may make the polls unreliable, people saying they’re voting for Obama, but voting for McCain in the booth. As a nation we may have gone over the edge and need a generation or more to come back.
CNN was giving it major kudos this morning. Their on-site reporter was Christian Amanpour, and she was giving it a rave review, IIRC.
Bob in HI
Thanks Jane. I badly needed a laugh.
This is so ironic! It was the GOPhers who turned a blind eye to the genocide in Iraq. Rummy and BUSHCO-1 enabled Saddam when it was in their interest to do so. They didn’t care what they enabled then. And BTW gassing the Kurds took place in 1988, the GOP’s watch. Where was the GOP outrage about the US and other countries selling Saddam the means to gas the Kurds? And yet the Bush administration waited until Saddam invaded Kuwait to take a stand.
War against the wrong country in 2003 was still the war against the wrong country because that country had nothing to do with 9-11, which McPain keeps trying to conflate.
This is 2008. McCain is so lost in space he doesn’t know what decade the genocide happened, or who was in the White House and which president didn’t care?
childish too
McCain must have spent too much time in Czechoslovakia.