Comments on: Versed: New Tool In America’s Medical Gulag

By: wrensis

wrensis — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:30:11 +0000

It is used in surgeries exactly for that reason. For example Cataract Surger where the patient is awake and the anesthetic is local. They will know everything that goes on but it will fade from memory shortly after the procedure.

By: Ian Welsh

Ian Welsh — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:18:12 +0000

ah yes, I had that stuff. And yes, complete memory wipe of a couple hours. They aren’t kidding about the amnesia, it’s not “bad memory” it’s “blank”.

By: themomcat

themomcat — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:06:21 +0000

In NYC the Paramedics carry Versed. It is used in a variety of protocols: for sedation post intubation, to control continuous seizures when there is no intravenous access and for sedation of violent emotionally disturbed patients. The protocol for sedation is for 10 mg of Versed to be administered by intramuscular injection after consultation with an on-line medical control physician. After administration the patients vital sign must be assessed, cardiac monitoring begun and airway monitored and maintained and an intravenous line established. The patient must be transported to an emergency department to be monitored and assessed. The protocol was instituted after several incidents with conventional restraints that resulted in serious injury or death of the patient. The administration can only be done by the paramedics and the patient must be taken to the hospital.
The NYC Paramedics are some of the best trained in the country and are well equipped to handle medical emergencies. There was a lot of discussion about this particular protocol and problems that might be associated with it. I know that it has been used and that there has been no negative outcomes.
I do not profess to know what the Nashville protocols are but if there is a link to their regional medical advisory committee the protocol should be there. Here is the link to the NYC Advanced Life Support Protocols:

http://www.nycremsco.org/als.a.....ticleID=81

Be advised that it is a pdf file and the protocol for Emotionally Disturbed Patients is #530.

By: nahant

nahant — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:43:51 +0000

Kirk I am late to this post but I had read this article and
Thought Kirk would like to read it so: From Time magazine: http://www.time.com/time/magaz.....64,00.html

Just a little present from the Chemical & plastic Corps..

By: Beerfart Liberal

Beerfart Liberal — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:17:05 +0000

yup.

By: Beerfart Liberal

Beerfart Liberal — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:16:38 +0000

Loved it. I pulled the YouTube of BO w/ the troops. Obama ought to dare McCain to play some ball with the troops. Can you picture McCain playing basketball with the troops? Good image for our side. Obama = young and athelic; McCain = old fart.

By: shell

shell — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:15:06 +0000

Maybe the Nashville cops are achieving their goal — to kill all these “criminals.” I wouldn’t set foot in Nashville. The Sacramento sheriffs are bad enough.

By: cbl2

cbl2 — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:13:19 +0000

whoops - Villaraigosa

By: Peterr

Peterr — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:12:57 +0000

Yeah, but now *Donna* is the incumbent that they feel obligated to protect. They may not like it, but she’s one of them now.

Bwahahahahaha . . .

By: cbl2

cbl2 — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:11:57 +0000

wag – LA Mayor Villagiarosa or Rick Noriega