I never quite understood the fascination with the British monarchy. They always seemed a sad piece of atavism, caught somewhere between tourist attraction and fodder for bodice-ripping novels by women named Collins.
But people seem to have very strong opinions about who is and who isn’t appropriate for the role of monarch (or consort), and despite the fact that we democratically elect our leaders and live in a country where 59.3% of women age 16 or over are labor force participants, being an active professional aspiring to the First Lady spot is a good way to get yourself raked over the coals.
I can’t think of a First Lady in my lifetime who had less press antagonism than Laura Bush. Despite her husband’s historicaly low approval ratings, hers remain high (84%). Her achievements as a mother and a librarian are laudatory, but they were seen by the press as "acceptable" for a woman of her position — they threatened no one.
Likewise, Cindy McCain’s work as a special education teacher for Down syndrome children is impressive, as are her efforts to bring emergency medical aid to disaster struck and war torn areas. But she isn’t challenging a male-dominated power structure in any meaningful way, and her press has largely been glowing. Bitter, razor-wielding columnists like Maureen Dowd have for the most part left her alone.
No such luck for Michelle Obama, about whom the right-wing smear machine is licking its chops. It evidently suits the standards of the chatterati just fine for a multimillionaire beer heiress with nine homes to assume the role of First Lady, but a self-made, Ivy League educated lawyer? Times haven’t changed so much after all. It’s evidently no more acceptable now than it was sixteen years ago when Hillary Clinton entered the White House.
Michelle Obama mentioned that McCain’s $600 rebate plan would have insignificant economic impact and the screeching howler monkeys of the right are seizing on imagery she used to illustrate her point as proof that she’s an "elitist":
“You’re getting $600. What can you do with that? Not to be ungrateful or anything. But maybe it pays down a bill, but it doesn’t pay down every bill every month.
“Barack’s approach is that the short-term quick fix kinda stuff sounds good. And it may even feel good that first month when you get that check. And then you go out and you buy a pair of earrings.”
Cue wingnut welfare queen Michelle Malkin, who has always been dependent on the kindness of GOP strangers for her daily bread:
Have you seen the price of
arugula at Whole Foodsearrings at Tiffany’s?
This only days after Cindy McCain says that getting around Arizona in a "small private plane" was the only way to travel? I can’t even imagine a situation where Michelle Obama says something like this, and the campaign wouldn’t be over in a flash.
Michelle Obama’s problem is not that she’s an elitist in the eyes of the right — it’s that she doesn’t have the right to be a member of the elite, like Cindy McCain. Underlying the entire critique is the notion that her commoner pretentions to monarchy are laughable.
Cindy? Why, she’s kinda like a modern day Lady Di.
Of course, it’s all wrapped up in class- and race-based notions of who is entitled to power, and what those symbols should acceptably look like. Michelle Obama obviously doesn’t fit the dress, and thus any smear is considered acceptable to handicap her ascent, no matter how flimsy and manufactured.
You have to wonder what bizarre fixations the right (and the media) are nurturing about what the presidency actually is. The past eight years has made it clear that few have any problems with limitless and unchecked executive power, so perhaps the idea of a benevolent dictator who frees them from the burden of choice sounds pretty good. Standing next to that person, of course, should be someone who is waxed and botoxed beyond human recognizability.
You almost hate to remind them that kings and queens were relegated to holding court in Madame Tussaud’s for a reason.



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Jane!!! Enjoying yourself in Texas today I hope!
You nailed it, Jane!! Look at all the BS Hillary went through while First Lady. Frankly, it is disgusting.
And you know what’s even more scary Jane? This is coming after the 8 years of using Hillary as punching bag/punchline because she had the audacity to consider herself the equal of her husband.
Think of how they’d be going crazy about Michelle Obama if they hadn’t had Hillary as a target for so long. The level of apoplexy would overwhelm Emergency Rooms nationwide.
Oh, Jane!
The one criticism of Laura Bush that I find unfair is of her wearing pantsuits. I LIKE pantsuits, dammit! So does Hillary Clinton. I HATE pantyhose because it’s cold in the winter, hot in the summer, and develops ladder runs if you so much as look at it funny.
But yes, isn’t it interesting how The Usual Suspects of Wingnuttia hate Michelle just about as much as they hate Hillary? Says a lot more about them than it does about the two ladies in question.
Cindy also dropped in that interview that she took lessons so she wouldnt be afraid to fly, then liked it so much shed decided to get her license and buy a plane.
Like it was a small expense.
It costs way more than arugula or earrings. Those private planes in her league cost about a million and the maintenance and upkeep is very expensive.
Awwwww Jane.
I just wish you’d come out and say what you mean. Why mince words?
heeheeheeheehee
btw, TERRIFIC post!
yhey, its the right wing–they attack democrats. They dont need a reason and consistency of thought or principle is non-existent.
if you havent had lunch yet, read shithammer’s screed today. he makes up a fantasy OB attack theme (along the lines above) then spins it for his entire column.
I wont repeat it, but you can still find the mental cripple’s ravings at the WAPO where he spews his filth.
I’m going to get the comments to show by posting a link to a petition to get the
MoonyWashington Times to report about women without the sexism. Not really OT.“They’re at it again.
This week’s Washington Times described a campaign rally in Michigan featuring Gov. Jennifer Granholm and Michelle Obama as an “estrogenfest” and a “girlie show.”
Click here to tell The Washington Times to stop using sexist clichés that demean and trivialize women.
The Times — arguably one of the top newspapers in the nation’s capital and a leading voice in Washington’s conservative establishment — didn’t mask its gender bias in the least. The article barely mentioned the economy, the actual topic of discussion between these two dynamic leaders — both respected, accomplished women who have worked hard to get to the top of their fields.”
Face it, many guys are afraid of strong, smart women. Look at Rachal Maddow, she will probably get the next position for a news program at MSNBC and she is clearly better than a couple of other folks on now. But the first reaction was to give an open position to a guy.
Let me guess, Malkin surely regards all of FDL as “uppity”.
The wingnuts are not taking on Michelle because she is elitist or “uppity” – they hate her because she is black. When we accept that race is at the bottom of everything they do re Obama we can then work against it out in the open.
Until we do we are going to be fighting against fake arguments and code words as usual.
Soem of these people need to get out into the real world more often – the real world of people making middle-5-figure incomes. When children’s athletic shoes can be $50 – and I’m not talking the top of the line here, these are the ordinary kind – that ’stimulus check’ isn’t going to go far. Or when it costs $40 or $50 to put gas in your car so you can buy groceries someplace where they don’t want your whole paycheck when you walk through the door.
The one thing I’m sure of, is that the Obamas do know budgets.
I always thought Michelle would make a great VP.
(Ok. I’m serious about this but also tired of refreshing.)
(I like my refreshment in a glass.)
(Still think she’d make a great VP, though.)
The Rethugs seem to have a fondness for wealthy controlling women, however. Carly, Cindy, Katherine Harris, et al. Locally we have Ronda Storms, wingnutress extraordnaire.
Laura Bush’s “achievements as a mother?”
Snark: it’s a lubricant AND a food topping!
Everytime I see Cindy McCain next to her husband, it’s ‘barbie doll’ telling or making sure ‘Ken’ does the right thing and is aware of the time.
wingnuttia aside for a moment, I do not understand why the Obama campaign is not using Michelle and her life story a helluva lot more – fer goodness sakes, we are a nation juggling work and family
they’ve already shown how quickly they can go from dogwhistle to outright lynching – why not put her out there and increase the odds of exposing them for the racist gits they are. besides doesn’t it help the campaign everytime BO calls them on this ?
is it just more of ‘Omg, what will the Republicans say ?!?! bs ?
I got her “uppity” right here.
I have always marveled at Prince Charles. He spends a lot of his time doing good openly. So few of the royals do. Too much bother I suppose. Might get the jodhpurs in a twist.
Well said. It would do us well to remember that every time they come up with that shit.
yeah but Cindy’s just being cost-conscious and “green”. Flying everywhere means she doesn’t waste her precious time and gas waiting in traffic, not to mention having to see all those ugly common folk and breathe the pollution that was meant for them. She’s literally above it all./s
I did have to laugh at Keith’s throwaway line to Rachel last night, based on an old NYT ad campaign: “I got my job through the New York Times!“
There is a positive correlation between female strength and intelligence and being regarded as a fair target for baseless attacks. Kind of like a backhanded compliment, but in reverse.
btw – OfMcSame is not trending well here in central texas – “snotty” and “ice queen” comes up a lot
That’s true. Maybe it’s why (some) girls start dumbing down on purpose in high school.
Most people who are afraid to fly either white-knuckle it (after going through ridiculous screening which simply reminds you why you are afraid to fly) or don’t fly at all. Cindy McCain, though, pays for flying lessons and then likes it so much she buys herself a plane.
Must be nice to be the queen.
As usual, you cut right to the heart of the matter, Jane. But I just wonder if the right is just resigned to getting booted out of power, anyway. It seems like portraying the Obamas as elitists is a non-starter for th ‘nuts. If that’s all they have, Obama will get 60% in November. No, if they were serious about swift-boating him, you’d see more than charges of “elitism.”
Once the real DC elite figure out they can work with Obama, he’s a shoo-in. And you know as well as I do, Barak is working that crowd for all he’s worth.
*g* and here, and here, and here,…….. thousands upon thousands ;->
It’s a good thing, this lake.
I like it when Michelle sez, “You are looking at what an investment in public education gets you.” Well, she sez it better, but you get the drift.
hey, you’re good. been watchin’ her eyes, hands & posture, i reckon.
botox can’t hide everything….
shhhhh, if i’m successful and she’s reading this, she’ll complete the transformation into an icicle. u watch. i have secret powers.
Afternoon, all – the ‘hate Michelle 24/7″ thing just goes to show you that the Obama family can get a ‘hate two-fer’ out of this: gender AND race. Frankly, if I were Michelle, I’d tell the handlers where they can stick their schedule in terms of putting her on shows like “The View” and any conversations about baking, family, or any of that stuff. She should play to her strengths and not try to go through some sort of “pass as a xx” thing.
Hey Adie. Been hoping to end up on the same thread as you in real time. Wanted you to know I quoted your comment on my facebook page under favorite quotes:
“http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/10/aclu-to-challenge-new-fisa-law-in-court/#comment-1535282
Adie says:
“If we can’t fight even “lost” causes, what’s the point of being here at-all a-tall…
stubborn can be incredibly powerful.
yada yada yada then we win.”
Hope you don’t mind. :)
What is it with the Right and “attacks on candidate’s wives?!?” I don’t recall this being common until the Right went bat**** crazy about Hillary. Now, it seems like they are just too mean-spirited to confine themselves to loathing the “opposition” candidate.
Petty, miserable, little people.
Does this sound familiar?
“Latin America’s women leaders
Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, 54, a lawyer who was elected President of Argentina last year, apparently struck a blow for the empowerment of women in the macho world of Latin American politics. In her first speech as leader, she issued a rallying cry to her “sisters in gender” – whether they were factory workers, housewives or professionals – to join her in public life. “I know we can all do great work,” she said. But neither she nor her Chilean counterpart Michelle Bachelet, 56, have had an easy ride. Since she was elected in 2006, Ms Bachelet, a single mother who survived torture under Pinochet’s regime, has complained about machismo and sexist attitudes towards women in politics. She says they are damned as “hysterical” if they show any flash of steel. Ms Fernandez’s battle with the farmers has seen her approval rating fall to 20 per cent. Latin America’s most powerful women may now wish to confer on tactics. They are friends who speak regularly and last year intervened jointly to cool an spat between the (male) presidents of Venezuela, Ecuador and Colombia.
from http://www.independent.co.uk/n…..70857.html
Well, just take flying lessons; bet that’s cheap.
Well, they haven’t gotten around to the 2 little girls yet. I’ll bet if they were teenagers they would, though. Remember Rush saying that Chelsea was a dog?
Malkin is one of those sad persons who is so riddled with self-loathing that she simply must up the ante in order to feel tolerable…….kind of like Coulter… and we saw her go over the edge in flames. No credibility with either of these females who give women a bad name.
I think Michelle’s own instincts and sense of balance are just fine.
I wish everyone would just leave her alone. She obvious is a truly gifted, dynamic, articulate, warm-hearted person with her head on straight. She has an infectious inner glow. That’s a problem?!??!?
Mebbe she should be Vice President. Wouldn’t that be somethin?!
She surely would outclass the present occupant currently trashing that office.
McSame made the ‘joke’ about Janet Reno as Chelsea Clinton’s father – har de f’in har
I guess I was mixing up the McCain “Reno as the father” nastiness with that. As far as I am concerned, the big issue is a complete and utter lack of courtesy…but again, it’s the old IOKIYAR thing. If progressives/Democrats say the same sort of stuff, then we are DFHs. But it’s ok for them to throw lies and dirt.
ohmagoodness, the zest & heart and last line (think Ghandi) of that “quote” was thinly disguised, borrowed material from all over, all dumped in one basket.
Of course you can use it. Please make it your own.
There is nothing original under the sun, unless we let shooter have his way with the world. Quote me as scared witless until that nut is in lockdown. I fear we will never be able to clean up after him and his enablers but, YES, we MUST TRY!
And Chelsea was only 13 at the time. My granddaughter is that age now and I have 3 daughters and I can just imagine the hurt at a time when young women are so sensitive to everything about their looks.
McSame is dangerous. I think he is senile as well as mean-spirited and potty-mouthed, truly. ymmv
And as a mom of two girls who are now in their 20s, I can just imagine how Hillary felt about this and what SHE would have wanted to do.
And now Savage is saying autism = spoiled brats. Have they no shame? O well.
Isn’t that amazing? Of course, Savage is nuts but why would he want to do that? I really don’t understand these people. Why mention it at all – maybe his next thing is that measles aren’t real – just a way for a brat to get attention.
I’m just glad Michelle Obama doesn’t wear upholstery, I don’t know how much more of that I can take, hell, fatigues would be a welcome change!
No question that John McCain puts the capital “O” in the Grand “Old” Party.
OT, but tremendously interesting, but McCain today heaped praise on Mitt Romney http://marcambinder.theatlanti…..t_mitt.php
Oh dear..I must have missed a photo op on this. Who’s wearing couch covers?
make that
. . .in lockdown, in restraints with a maintenance Haldol IV running 24/7
ironic the rise of the Fundies has me believing in Beelzebub
current repubble legacy (in no particular order):
greed
filth
destruction
ignorance
viciousness
arrogance
heartlessness
no sense of responsibility
no compassion
offensive
defensive
uppity – for whu?????? why, self defense, of course.
their wretched desires nah gah happen… the people already know… we will remind them if and as necessary… eh?
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/56573300.jpg%3Fv%3D1%26c%3DViewImages%26k%3D2%26d%3D17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE2A32EB648E8C50CDA40A659CEC4C8CB6” rel=”nofollow”>here ya go
Since McSame likes Beach Boys tunes so much, I’m expecting his next musical number to be:
“Help Me Romney…Help Help, Me Romney!”
the more things change, the more they remain the same. For a “classless” society, we sure do have a lot of places where the newly rich can not enter the society of inherited wealth. Where women can be say, nurses, librarians, teachers. But let a woman aspire to be an engineer, a lawyer, a stockbroker, a doctor. While she is “allowed” to attend university to get the degree, nobody really expects her to actually work at the job and even less be good at it. So blue collar workers must remain so generation after generation-except for the Tim Russart types, who altho dripping in new money, can, if enough of an asskisser, be allowed to associate with the old money. I grew up in an “old money” household-the son of the cook-, whose daughter had married a “counter jumper” a poor, but ambitious man, they lived in an old money suburb in Chicago, and summered with the old money in Northern Michigan. As the young son of a servant, I was pretty much invisible to all the old money adults, so I shamelessly eavesdropped, and the backstabbing and the in your face insults that went on was amazing. When the daughter of the house graduated university(about 64-65) with a masters in math, and then went out and got a (gasp) job, the knives really came out. The conversations I overheard among the adults, and associating with the children of the uber rich while I was growing up, made me more than happy to be a member of the underclass. I far as I can see, nothing has changed. The moneyed families-like the bushes, and even the McCains might fall in this category, being of Naval royality-do not like the uppity underclass getting above themselves, and to have one run for president(gasp) those dems, they will let anyone run for office-they impeached Clinton, I have often wondered if it was because of what he did(minor) or simply because he was one of the smart but poor underclass.(look at what happened when the repigs let one of the underclass(Nixon-with a truely massive chip on his shoulder) become president). Let just one get above his station, and pretty soon they will all want to. So we come to Obama and his wife, who are being snowed under by the avalanche of disapproval by the repigs-the party of wealth(why on earth would anyone of class want to associate with the dems, they let just anyone into their party). “Class” in the US? You damn bettcha there is. Why else are so many magazines and newspapers constantly reporting on the British”royals” and the “american royality” the uber rich, the movie stars, and those who are famous just for being famous. Our royality, our “upper class” No thanks, I’ll stay down here in the underclass, and stay happy.
With all the monetary and educational advantages available to her, to laud Laura Bush for rearing Barbara and Jenna seems to lower the bar a bit.
Laura Bush.
She has the absolute worst taste in clothes I have ever seen in my life!
The stuff she wears looks like they just yanked it off a couch made in 1950.
Who needs Beelezbub when we have the Bush/Chaney/McCan’t trilateral demon-strators.
nah. i just want him outta sight and outta commission so he can’t hurt nobody no more never ever ever.
Thanks Jane.
Wouldn’t Mitt Be Nice
Browsers getting tired. Won’t let me reply.
This is for Adie at 42:
And that’s exactly why I like it. *G*
You’re right in there with Shakespeare and Molly Ivins.
tacky, tacky. When Michelle went on the view, she wore a dress that retails at 135.00 while Cindy’s blouses cost 10 times more. How they can call Michelle elitist is beyond me. Has anyone noticed that they are trying to pin any ist work that stick on the Obama’s. It’s a sign of desperation to me.
Meant to say “ist” word not work..i.e. racist, socialist, elitist, etc.
there. fixed it for ya.
bein’ a mom & all, i feel entitled. ;->
wellllll, i do wish he would be, but…. it’d be quite a stretch imo.
this is off topic but very important, a former mccain aid says the diebold machines were rigged, check this out
And yet Bill says Hillary and McCain are good friends. Go figure.
I think you went to the heart of the matter
with this post.”She doesn’t have the right to be a mamber
of the elite” Sad isn’t it!
But those of us who get by with the fruits of our
own labors have something more important we feel
about Michele.We respect her!
But her achievements as a librarian? Well, now your talking!! (Sorry – just a brief malfunction in my subtlety detector – I’m all better now.)
Well-said, timr.
lol
-um-, hardly. but you’re very sweet.
Keep throwin’ yer stuff at the toobz and the neighbors and everyone in between. We’ll march together. ‘kay? ;->
Yesterday on my local wingnut radio the host declared that Michelle Obama was fair game for attacks because she is “out there campaigning”.
Sean Hannity has said that it is now his JOB to take down Obama. After he successfully delivered on the ‘Stop Hilary express’. Someone called him and asked him very seriously if he would look this guy’s 7 year old in the eyes and say that Rush’s Operation Chaos (Republics registering in the democratic party to vote in the Primaries and then registering in the Republic party) was fine. Sean said that he thinks it is fine. He thought it was FUNNY, which makes it okay.
I think it would be good to get more of the things that these people believe on the record in support of their views on things like torture and other immoral acts. Remember Sean supported his good friend Ted Nugent and his comments about killing politicians. At the time his excuse was, “He’s a rock star! He wears a loin cloth on stage!”
I’m reading Rush Limbaugh’s old book “The way things ought to be” right now. The interesting bit of info I’m getting from the book is how he “won over” his critics who were calling the stations complaining about his calling women Feminazis. He used a combination of flipping the narrative by getting his SUPPORTERS to call the station and praise him and when the advertisers pulled their ads he directed people to go shop there. What both of these tactics did was to marginalize the protests against Rush to the only people who actually had the power to impact his reach, radio station managers and advertisers.
I also bet that he didn’t tell the whole truth. I’m going to bet that some stations dropped him and then when there were others that kept him on and MADE money the management of the stations that dropped him we beaten up by the stockholders for not going with Rush. The thing I note here is that they can justify anything as long as it makes them money. So when it doesn’t make them money they have no excuse but ideology. But as we have seen with Clear Channel that when you have a near monopoly you can preach ideology because there aren’t many financial consequences.
These kind of disgusting attacks on Michelle Obama do not REALLY represent the mainstream. But they represent the MONEY MAKING voice of a few people. And that is more powerful than a poll that says that a majority of people like an accomplished woman.
You know how also has lots of power in the world of what is “acceptable”? Dr. Laura. Dr. Laura hates her listeners and callers, especially ones who don’t do what she tells them. They are so desperate for her approval that they twist themselves into knots to get her approval before they bring up the thing they know she will disapprove of. “I’m my kids mom. I’m a stay at home mom who home schools my kids, I’ve been married for 8 years and the moral problem I have is…” She tells it is usually the woman’s fault if there are problems. And since she hates her callers so much the anger just oozed out of her. Woman get the idea that if you want an authority figure to approve of you ‘The stern father” you need to do certain things.
And there is something very powerful in getting approval from a strong authority figure.
Well, perhaps Hillary is like my Mom, who I always knew ’saved greenstamps’ on slights big and small. Until she had all of her TIAs and developed dementia, she put her mind to its greatest use in remembering who had done what to any of us. Forgive..perhaps…forget…never.
Sweet? Must’ve been my breakfast cookie. Not normally, though. ;)
I can get alongside that.
The ReichWing noise machine remains loyal to their faux Germanic dream of Volksgemeinschaft: Community, Leader and Racial Purity. As with “enhanced interrogation” methods, it sounds better in the original German.
http://209.85.135.104/search?q…..#038;gl=uk
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2471…..aziDeutsch
Women. Supportive? OK. Barefoot and pregnant? Good, but only if she doesn’t miss work. Gotta make sure IndyMac and Bank of America get those debtor-friendly mortgages repaid, and who wants to pay one adult a living wage when splitting it among two or more is better. Leadership? That’s for hubby. Momma needn’t worry her pretty little head about big boy things. Dress it up, put a bow tie on it, give its speaker an Ivy League degree or multi-year, multi-million dollar broadcasting contract or both, and that’s what you’ve got. Who needs the overhead of The Stepford Men’s Club when you can tune in to Fox Noise anywhere in the country?
Republicans, Southern racists like Helms, coal mine owners in Appalachia and factory owners in Detroit garnered a lot of votes scaring working and middle class white men into thinking them negroes were gonna “know” their women, take their jobs or make their kids sit next to them on a bus or at school. Hell, they might even wanna swim in the same pool.
Post Roe, post NOW, post-neocon, they aim to do the same. The twist is that they want to scare white and black men, and oddly, fundamentalists of all religions, into thinking uppity women all want either to emulate Lorena Bobbitt or boil your pet rabbit.
It’s a Rovian caricature, but it works. It describes a (fictional) threat to your manhood that you can do something about — vote against her husband or don’t vote at all. Not like globalizing companies or the rapacious finance industry, or even baldness, age and weight, coming to grips with which might require facing reality without the beer, the bourbon or the Veuve Clicquot.
But how best to stop a scatter gun? Dodge each pellet, take out the firing pin, or humorously point out that the hunters’ shot is salt, not lead? That’s in their brains and their pants.
I give her credit for sending them to public schools. Don’t know if she had to fight to do that…
Why! I NEVER!?! says i sittin’ here in trekking pants smeared with sundry garden oddities, but with 2 qts of fresh blueberries in the frig.
be nice puppies, says i, w/ fingers crossed behind me back. *g*
We have a block-long street fair this month in SF built around the idea of getting disapproval from an authority figure!
I heard a very courteous caller get on the line with Sean. He had the very sensible question why, after all these weeks, Sean keeps up with the Rev. Wright stuff. Sean was so rude, put down, never addressed the question. Something keeps these folks on the air
Are you talking about Laura. The girls went to Hockaday which is pretty exclusive in Dallas.
Does this kind of negativity work for you?
All that whatever you send into the universe comes back attcha thing is why I’m asking.
Well, they went to and graduated from Austin High. And Jenna stayed to go to UT, as Im sure you know.
I actually had a civil conversation with a burly, fierce-lookin’ “Joe-Six-Pack” fella yestidie, although he started out kinda frosty and stiff, having just driven up the drive past our Obama sign.
We did not talk politics. But we made eye contact and talked about the land, conservation easements, & stuff, and we got along o.k. He loves the land also. He wanted to know how that easement stuff works. Considering one for his own land.
He has a very dangerous job, trimming around live electric lines in all sorts of conditions. His rough tough exterior no doubt covers a considerable core of raw courage.
No, we didn’t have to talk politics, but it was surely in the air as we got to know more about each other and our mutual respect for the land, as well as for people who work to protect and preserve.
Yada yada, then we win.
I’m just saying, at the end of the day, a bunch of creeps don’t approve…how is this is a victory?
Yes but before that they attended Hockaday. Once he became governor, Bush became the common man. A former neighbor from the time that I lived in Dallas actually taught them. I don’t know how long they attended school there though.
Rev Bev, if your still here they did attend Preston Hollow Elementary while in Dallas also.
Friendly reminder that you can only have one username at FDL.
I went to public schools, and so did our kids.
A lot of my friends in college had attended private schools.
I fail to see how this discussion is considered relevant to anything substantial, unless it is accompanied by more substance affecting fitness for office.
What. Is. The. Point. of this discussion?! Much less, negative comments about choice of clothing.
Good Golly Molly would be embarrassed to see us carrying on so.
Now run along, boys & girls…. What you DO with what you have is what you are, in the long run. No??? Help me out here.
All in favor of knowing every last detail of public personalities’ children, line forms here for wiki.org. all ashore that’s goin’ ashore!
Okay…but, how would I comment from work?
I’ve tried to use my home id and password from a different url and things got all messed up. Needed
Not trying to pull a fast one …, but you know that. I think.
Adie, that’s what’s typically called a dirty old man.
Dear lurking mod. I thot this had worked o.k. before. With different IP addresses at home & work, what else can one do???
That ain’t no typical DOM, & he wants to lead my nation. WHERE!?!??
signed, mid-60’s been-around-the-block & no-blind-fool
hey, Adie! It’s a full moon, everyone at work’s been in a pissy mood all day…it’s my last day on this temp job and I’ve been lurking for two weeks and thought, oh what the heck…
See what I get for thinking that? HA Ha! ha….:(
He’s just giving me a hard time ’cause I called Teddy out on his negativity…I think.
my comment was in re demi’s predicament.
omg. let us BOTH hang our heads in shame. NOT. *g*
i was out lst night in the full moon watching our local bats ply their trade along the hedgerow. i wish they would fly lower, dang. i’m covered with mosquito bites.
P. E. A. C. E. eh?
P E A C E from one ol’ gal to t’other…
one of my favoritest part of getting, er, um, more mature is the KMA side affect.
I’m not so sure about the achievement-as-librarian thing. Miss Laura still hasn’t taught her oldest pupil to read or distinguish between not getting caught in a lie and telling the truth.
Timr’s comment at #56 about McCain being from Naval “royalty” is spot on. It’s not just that his father and grandfather were both Academy grads and full admirals. His grandfather was a peer of Spruance and Halsey. He sailed on Teddy Roosevelt’s Great White Fleet, became an early Naval aviator at age 52 (when most military pilots hang up their wings), and served as Deputy Chief of Naval Operations, Aircraft, commanded carrier task forces and all aircraft in the South Pacific during World War Two. His father commanded the Atlantic, then Pacific Fleets, the latter for four years at the height of the Vietnam War. (Shortly before McSame lost one of his five aircraft, serving aboard the USS Forrestal during its famous fire in 1967).
In short, McSame was a naval princeling. But like Bush and the Eastern, Ivy League establishment, he seems only capable of understanding it as a caricature. Hence his continuing to behave like a drunken ensign, screwing the admiral’s daughter while parking in his reserved space at the “O” Club.
The ReichWing take down of Michelle Obama, and impliedly of all women in progressive politics, like Gov. Sebelius and Hillary, is simply taking down their opponent through whatever means comes to hand. In RoveWorld, the only rule is that there are no rules. Which is one reason it’s so important for progressives to hold fast on reinstating the rule of law.
Does this mean if I try to use my Demi handle from home tonight that I will spontaneously burst? The site manager is the one who allowed me the temporary new account…which will be unnecessary in one hour and 12 minutes. Dude.
Seriously, why give Demi a hard time over something trivial when there is so much evil and coldheartedness and danger in the world? Why?
Perhaps it is simply respect for each other as fellow Senators.
The Obama’s can not have it both ways. If Michelle Obama is going to make political statements then she is fair game. $600 dollars is still a lot of money to a lot of people. Michele Obama is a Health Care administrator who makes 200 thou plus a year. Big difference in perspective.
Ms. Obama is arguing that it’s McCain who can’t have it both ways.
He can’t argue that tax cuts for the rich help anyone but the rich. He can’t say that tax credits or deductions help the poor, when the poor pay little or no tax. Or, that tax credits would pay even a significant portion of the cost of health insurance, or that they would improve access to insurance or lower medical costs.
$600 is a lot of money to most Americans. But it’s a pittance to the government — not even a single tank of gas for each SUV in Cheney’s motorcade — and a misguided measure masquerading as an adequate step in meeting the challenges at hand.
It was not the context it was Ms Obama making political statements. They object to any negative press coverage but then encourage her to make political statements. They cannot have THAT both ways.
You aren’t seriously arguing that a flat $600 is going to solve anything, are you? You need to get our more. Everyday in my bankruptcy practice I see people suffering from this economy, and I promise you $600 is just a one-month reprieve, if that.
I suspect “they” object to propagandistic media coverage that misconstrues Ms. Obama’s statements in a manner that avoids addressing their underlying merit. Coverage, conversely, that praises the occasional charitable work of a hundred millionairess while ignoring that she refuses to disclose tax filings that might reveal the extent of her financial support for her candidate husband or conflicts of interest the public should know about.
Of course the Democratic candidate’s Ivy League law school-trained wife has the same or more observations about life in America under CheneyBush as we do here. More. She has and will comment about them and ought to. Those observations would be subject to “fair comment”. That does not make Ms. Obama herself “fair game”, as if she were an interesting duck in the sights of Cheney or Scalia.
The press and public need to be reminded that Karl Rove’s rules of the political road — ie, that there are no rules — is as radical as Nixon’s and Cheney’s political behavior. Not doing that would further erode what little civility remains in American public life, a trend we want to reverse, not exacerbate.