It's been quite a morning at TraitorFest '08. Unserious shrillness everywhere!
The "Fuck" Panel with Atrios and Digby was entertaining. Seeing just about everyone, from Richard Clarke to John Dean. Right now, I'm eating lunch with Neiwert, watching the much-anticipated Harold Ford/Markos panel discussion.
I'll be liveblogging the exchanges here. Trying to get photos up but the Internets aren't cooperating.
Will update in comments.
UPDATE
All in all, the biggest takeaway from this was from Harold Ford: "I admire my colleagues at Fox News."
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I’m late! Too busy trying to get to the ballroom. Check out pix of the inaccessibility of downtown Austin today.
Hi BT!
Oh man! Do you think Digby or Atrios will come to my party tonight?! *swoon*
Markos opened with a Brief History of Daily Kos.
Ford opens with why the DLC was founded.
Now Markos is talking about FISA, says the media portrayal of the Netroots’ break with Obama was overblown.
http://headonradionetwork.com/.....in-austin/
blogging about the inaccessibility
Wow, if only they’d gotten Betty Ford for this panel, it would be the Ford-Markos-Ford panel.
Hi BT
#### FISA!
All hail our progressive, civil-liberties defending, non-flipflopping nominee!
####! my computer won’t let me say ####!
In my small corner of the blogosphere, it was not overblown.
Now Ford is saying why FISA is awesome.
“Whatever dept. is responsible for giving the telecom permission to do this — that person should be accountable.”
Above comment should say “recent FISA bill.”
Ford: “We are all smart, rational people who made judgments on the facts before us.”
“Call me, Markos”
Does that “smart, rational” include Kit Bond?
No fireworks yet. They’re being too nice.
Markos is talking about Joe Lieberman — when he went to the DLC he said “that asshole Joe Lieberman.”
And he got applause.
And he just got applause here.
Except as even Snarlin Arlen pointed out (before he did his traditional cave and voted for the bill) said, some 70% of Senators had no idea what they were actually voting on.
Ford: “We need both wings to make this work. I applaud what Netroots has been able to do.”
And he just got applause HERE too.
“With all due respect, the majority of the American people are more concerned about housing and gas prices than FISA.”
Oh, come on, someone please say to Ford, “fuck you.”
Na ga happen.
“I admire your passion…I wish you’d not take so many shots at me personally…” Ford
How about ‘Bless Your Heart’?
Same thing if ya do it right.
out loud?
“I think it’s healthy. What family doesn’t have disgreements?” - Markos
“You can say I’m a dreamer.”
“Enforced unity is weakness. David Broder. Weakness.” — Markos
Oh GOOD—they’re taking questions now.
And then add Imelda Marcos and ya got Ford-Markos-Ford-Marcos.
I am SOOOOOO jealous of everyone at NN. Can hardly stand not being there. Must. Get. A. Grip.
Someone needs to ask Harold why the only DLC campaign for Senate lost in 2006 — his.
Questioner: “There have been so many issues, Mr. Ford, where your votes have been out of the mainstream — way right of America. Why are you smearing Democrats on TV and using right wing attacks?”
Ford: “I have great respect for my former colleagues at Fox News.”
[boos]
I’ve been very random about getting to the Lake, so if this is a stupid question, ummmm, what’s new??? Are you Teddy San Fran?
ed note:
“We are all smart, rational people who made judgments before the facts “
that whole smart rational thingy would explain Mr. Ford’s employer writing down 4.89 Billion today
Somebody needs to point out that Malkin and crew are across town and they have a free chartered bus he can ride over there on.
Seriously?
sorry Gnome - my 36 wasn’t for you - wth ? must be my meetup anxiety *g*
aahhh . . .steelcage deathmatch
dibs on ol 60 Grit !
Did anyone update that idiot Ford that BushCo was doing this before 9/11? And Quest wouldn’t play along? Is Ford gung ho for a police state?
I call bull shit!! Ford has no clue. See my previous comment.
I am still advocating strongly for folks (me) to consider shifting to Qwest where that’s possible geographically, and also from Sprint, AT&T and Verizon (and probably most of the rest) to Credo. Great progressive provider.
Yes I am, and hello!
updated 6:45 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 18, 2008
SAN FRANCISCO - A measure seeking to commemorate President Bush’s years in office by slapping his name on a San Francisco sewage plant has qualified for the November ballot.
The measure certified Thursday would rename the Oceanside Water Pollution Control Plant the George W. Bush Sewage Plant.
Supporters say the idea is to commemorate the mess they claim Bush has left behind
Do those FOX colleagues include the ones that put hot mikes on civil rights leaders from eras past in order to eavesdrop on their conversations about our nominee — and then release those eavesdroppings over a number of days to the news media? Those respectable FOX News colleagues, Harold?
Why any Democrat ever goes near FOX news after this Jesse Jackson insanity is absolutely inexplicable.
Nevada businessmen might consider naming a whore house after him “The GW Bush Mustang Ranch” He’s been the biggest whore in the nation.
“We are all smart, rational people who made judgments before the facts “
Ummm…the process goes like this:
1. Gather facts.
2. Assess
3. Make judgment.
I know lots of people who do this in reverse. They’re not only wrong all the time, they’re dangerous. Not smart. Not rational.
And that would include Harold Ford. Obviously he learned nothing from his campaign in ‘06.
What did I miss? TraitorFest? Could someone please expound.
Nelson: Obviously he made a judgment before the facts so therefor, he won. ;)
Harold Ford really believes his white counterparts shared something with him? That is the type of delusion that would make a black man play with the gop.
TraitorFest = snark for Netroots Nation
Rolls off the tongue easier than
“Dirty Fuckin’ Hippies Gone Wild!“.
Blue Texan … more updates .. please!! ;-)
What was the purpose of putting Mr DLC on a panel with Kos? I think we all know the positions of the greedheads.
Obviously the “new comments” link still no workee.
I like that better, though. *g*
Got it. Thanks. Where did it come from? Are we calling us that or did someone else do it first? Seems like some pretty dark snark. (Been reading too many late night contest entries.)
think it’s just us calling it that
and besides, the I ♥ the Terrorists didn’t fit on the souvenir pitchforks
New Jane post
cbl2: “think it’s just us calling it that
and besides, the I ♥ the Terrorists didn’t fit on the souvenir pitchforks”
Well in that case: LOL!
*G*
It’s called a ’security state’ and yes, he-and a majority of professional politicians-including Obama- are for it.
Guess Markos is ‘on board’ wit dat too. Then, since the big hoohaw with Obambi was ‘overblown’.
That’s it for me.
Best move I made this year.
Not going.
I think it’s going to be a Steel Cage Match between Hoyer, Pelosi & Reid for that honor.
Hi BT.
Thanks much for the peek inside the door for those of us unable to attend.
Remind Ford of his comment on MSNBC ” Obama better hope those West Virginians and other [racist white anti-foreign Americans] don’t see ‘those Germans’ liking Obama too much.”
Ford is a right wing Ho’, and since Obama has come to now adopt Ford’s DLC platform - where before he was against the DLC - I WILL NEVER EVER PUT ANOTHER ‘CENTRIST DEMOCRAT ANYWHERE NEAR CONGRESS OR THE WHITE HOUSE!
One final point I hope will be discussed - $52 million in June as the nominee vs. over $53 million in February while he was still a longshot candidate.
That represents a huge loss of base support.
You’re a dreamer!