Al Gore challenged the nation to transform the way it produces electricity, moving to a 100 percent renewable and non-carbon system within 10 years.
Annotated highlights from Gore’s speech on energy, via the New York Times:
Our major problems are connected:
I don’t remember a time in our country when so many things seemed to be going so wrong simultaneously. Our economy is in terrible shape and getting worse, gasoline prices are increasing dramatically, and so are electricity rates. Jobs are being outsourced. Home mortgages are in trouble. Banks, automobile companies and other institutions we depend upon are under growing pressure. Distinguished senior business leaders are telling us that this is just the beginning unless we find the courage to make some major changes quickly. . . .
Yet when we look at all three of these seemingly intractable challenges at the same time, we can see the common thread running through them, deeply ironic in its simplicity: our dangerous over-reliance on carbon-based fuels is at the core of all three of these challenges – the economic, environmental and national security crises. We’re borrowing money from China to buy oil from the Persian Gulf to burn it in ways that destroy the planet. Every bit of that’s got to change. . . .
All of these problems share a common solution:
The answer is to end our reliance on carbon-based fuels. . . . [W]hen you connect the dots, it turns out that the real solutions to the climate crisis are the very same measures needed to renew our economy and escape the trap of ever-rising energy prices. Moreover, they are also the very same solutions we need to guarantee our national security without having to go to war in the Persian Gulf. . . .
Today I challenge our nation to commit to producing 100 percent of our electricity from renewable energy and truly clean carbon-free sources within 10 years. . . .
To those who say the challenge is not politically viable: I suggest they go before the American people and try to defend the status quo. Then bear witness to the people’s appetite for change. I for one do not believe our country can withstand 10 more years of the status quo. . . .
We have to deal with transitional fairness issues:
America’s transition to renewable energy sources must also include adequate provisions to assist those Americans who would unfairly face hardship. For example, we must recognize those who have toiled in dangerous conditions to bring us our present energy supply. We should guarantee good jobs in the fresh air and sunshine for any coal miner displaced by impacts on the coal industry. Every single one of them.
Of course, we could and should speed up this transition by insisting that the price of carbon-based energy include the costs of the environmental damage it causes. I have long supported a sharp reduction in payroll taxes with the difference made up in CO2 taxes. We should tax what we burn, not what we earn. This is the single most important policy change we can make. . . .
The political right (predictably wrong) will now disparage the messenger to kill the message. More seriously, there will be challenges to the plan’s feasibility and costs – $1.5 to $3 trillion. Can we accept Gore’s optimism about development rates and declining costs for renewables (we thought that would happen 20 years ago), or the necessity of substantially transforming America’s coal industry? Such radical upheavals occur only, as in WWII, when the public accepts the need for national mobilization, and we are clearly not there. But what of the alternatives?
It is only a truly dysfunctional system that would buy into the perverse logic that the short-term answer to high gasoline prices is drilling for more oil ten years from now in areas that should be protected.
We’ll need more emphasis on promoting efficiency/conservation and electricity rate reforms to enable customer-based energy savings and production. Though in his plan, efficiency and conservation got just a throw away line, and it wasn’t connected to rate reform, but this is a no-regrets winner that makes everything else easier.
Gore’s proposal for offsetting carbon and payroll taxes is vital. The idea is to tax what you want to discourage – whether it’s oil use or carbon emissions — and recycle the revenues back to those hardest hit. A carbon tax is presumably unpalatable but one is implicit in a “cap and trade” approach, which Obama endorses along with middle class tax cuts.
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Just you wait- Gore’s energy bills for household will be revisted. Just like last time around. The opposition won’t stop posting any kind of false info they can find.
Sorry, Scarecrow, that was not a good response to your excellent post. But, I expect that the knives will be out for Gore, as usual.
Yep. I’ve already seen a story noting that Gore drove to his speech in a gas guzzler. Attack the messenger; ignore the message.
Excellent post, SC. The powers that be are trying their hardest to deny pretty much all he said yesterday but in yer face reality is trumping the windbags this time round. Ties in to Attaturk’s post. The rich media types don’t see the world we walk in every day. It’s hard to care about gas or food prices when you’re not the one buying them. The accountant pays the credit card bills so they’re relieved of the most basic of tasks.
this is SO brutally simple IT IS AMAZING DEMOCRATS AREN’T JUMPING ON THIS!
I have been saying this from the very first warning of global warming, that in FACT, going “green” WILL NOT COST US A DIME IT WILL SAVE US!
our auto industry will have the GREATEST ECONOMIC SUCCESS IN THEIR HISTORY, since petro engines will become obsolete, jobs will abound, blue collar, industrial, research, science, ALL WILL HAVE THEIR GREATEST BOON
we will SECURE this nation by becoming ENERGY INDEPENDANT, we will PROTECT the future of our kids by reversing the effects of a petro based economy
the MAIN thing we have to do is MAKE CERTAIN this “new” technology is NOT privatized, privitization ALWAYS costs money, ALWAYS
we need to create the FEDERAL programs that will inspire research, when a company finds a new technology, that will be theirs to profit, but if they are using federal funds for their research, they will SHARE in the ownership
our economy right now is STRUCTURED so we ALWAYS must produce new industry, every single dollar is printed in the first place as a “loan” WITH INTEREST”, which means there can NEVER be enough money in the economy to cover the debt, SINCE the money is produced with interest above the original value
new industry FACILITATES this economic model
however we MUST initiate the economic policies that INSURE growth OF THE PEOPLE, we do this by INSISTING, any product produced in countries that provide less benefits then our country MUST CARRY A TARRIF
with this method, THE PEOPLE of ALL countries will progress with the NEW INDUSTRIAL ERA
man, gore is the greates president we ever elected, a shame he never got to serve
got to go to work but again scarecrow, a GREAT thread to start the morning
A little history from my California days. Back in the early 80s, San Diego Gas and Electric wanted to build a 2000 MW nuclear complex (and other California utilities had even larger nuke plans.) There was a statute that said we couldn’t issue a construction permit unless we first found the US had a workable solution to the nuclear waste problem, and our agency had said, there isn’t one. So the legislature asked the CEC to examine whether California could get by without nukes. We couldn’t use in-state coal because of air quality issues, so the question was: could we (1) reduce demand enough plus (2) build enough gas plants plus (3) build more renewables (most geothermal, but some wind/solar/biomass) to meet expected demand? We did a year long study and concluded, “yeah, we can do that.” The legislature acceepted the report and declined to give the utilities and exemption for nukes.
The funny thing is, we weren’t sure at the time. We knew it was ambitious and would take time and we might fail — but California did it.
The most important piece was driving down electricity demand with building/appliance standards and utility conservation programs. We changed window framing for the entire building industry, raised insulation requirements everywhere, required high efficiency air conditioners/heaters, wrapped water heaters, required dual-set-back thermostats, encouraged passive solar and thermal mass, and on and on. It worked.
We could do this, with the right leadership.
Morning Scarecrow,
excellent post, you clearly make the case.
Thanks for the good links, too.
We need this to happen and we need it now. We obviously aren’t going to get the necessary leadership from our politicians.
We’re going through that nuke nonsense now in FL. PSC just approved Florida Progress building 2 new reactors north of Crystal River. We’re gonna fight this all the way.
Great post, Scarecrow. SouthernDragon, I can’t believe this country is talking about having nuclear power again.
OT – I just saw Iglesias on MSNBC saying that he believes Ashcroft was forced out because he wouldn’t sign off on illegal spying yet our Congress would. Pitiful, isn’t it.
He also talked about how Karl Rove isn’t testifying in front of Congress because he’s afraid he will be indicted.
I should be more clear. The PSC approved a rate hike in order to pay for the reactors. The approval process is more complicated and drawn out. PSC pretty much rubber stamps whatever the utilities want, though. Time for a change there too.
easily, the technology already exists, the problem is it puts the petro industry out of business and they will not allow it
Al Gore is damn uppity.
Say it Al!!
The utilities are selling it because (1) they don’t want to be bothered with renewables and (2) the taxpayers pay all the costs up front through rate hikes and fed subsidies and the utilities get the profit. I think the waste issue is going to be the real battleground here. Sons a bitches.
Two things about Gore’s speech.
1] Individuals matter. What a different world we would be living in if there had been a Gore Administration.
2] President Obama needs to appoint Gore as America’s energy Czar on day one.
Keep in mind that Gore assumes we need at least the existing fleet of nukes, which provide about 20% of our electricity. See the Jerome a Paris link “Gore’s optimism . . .” which cites to US DOE figures. If you don’t build mre nukes, then you have to lower demand and/or build more renewables — a lot more.
What I learned from the California experience is, if you feel you have to oppose one solution you have to work even harder making a credible case for its substitute as you do against what you oppose. Florida is not known for its conservation standards for buildings or an efficient rate structure. Lots of potential there, I suspect.
I have THREE inventions that will DEFINATELY make engines more efficient on the road, so what do I do with them?
I can’t publish anywhwere or even talk about them on the phone since the telecoms have been given the right to steal my stuff
so, I need a meeting with gore I think, can someone set that up pronto?
ps, not joking about those inventions, two of them the technology exists and simply takes application, the third involves a data base upgade
ps, does the “new posts” thingy not work anymore?
I am not getting notices
see all when I get to my office, by 4 now
no new post banners
and no new comments banner either, you have to refresh the page to see if there are more comments Hit F5.
ain’t that the truth.
it’s sickening to think about it, actually, considering what BushCo has done to US and the world.
It’s taken a lot of years to get through to the fenderheads here but it is now a hot issue. The retirees from the north had a lot of influence (read money) in Tallahassee for a lot of years but that’s beginning to change. There’s a fresh wind blowin’ here. You’re absolutely correct. We have to present a viable alternative to nukes or expansion of the coal fired plants.
It’s the Rethuglican Way.
Happen to catch lou dobbs the other day being outraged that the dems weren’t putting forth any plans on energy,yesterday he was outraged at Gores plan,go figure.
“There will be major challenges to the plan’s feasibility and costs – $1.5 to $3 trillion.”
…but we can throw that away in Iraq and not even bat an eye. This, besides the cost in lives lost and ruined, is one of the most obscene aspects of our attack on Iraq.
“Can we accept Gore’s optimism about development rates and declining costs for renewables (we thought that would happen 20 years ago)…”
…which probably would have happened if we hadn’t been so half hearted. And just imagine progress we could have made if the Iraq war money had been spent on alternative energy research/development…?
Apparently we need the pain caused by our current energy usage strategies to get a lot worse before we take alternatives seriously. In the meantime, Gore will continue to be treated just like Cassandra…
Jon Stewart explains all re Dobbs.
Gore clips up on WJ now
topic for callins is renewables
what is his solution, more coal? tar sands? bigger nukes?
Creamating illegal immigrants.
The powers that be would never have approved borrowing that kind of money for renewable energy. War? That’s ok.
composting illegal aliens
Great minds…
That well may have been an example of satire which isn’t funny – if so, I apologize
Decades ago, DOE said solar photovoltaics would become cost effective within 15-20 years; today, it’s still out there on the horizon. Of course, oil prices tanked after the 70s-80s, and Reagan killed most renewable govt R&D.
As for What We Could Have Done with the Money, we’ll have a Book Salon on Saturday on Rob Simpson’s book.
It’s really a problem of having Republics in leadership positions. The oil companies could transition to being alternative energy providers. Most likely they already have approaches in place. Republics make it possible to delay that transition.
Are afraid
The Democrats aren’t jumping on this — or anything else. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a second party? Well the Democrats don’t qualify, AND HERE’S WHY!
From ThinkProgress yesterday: Rove: ‘This Administration Put More Into Alternative Energy Research Than Any Administration in History’
Energy is apolitical. Energy and it’s costs can decimate liberty! Pretty simple proposition. Common Sense………..
Do not forget to mention the record petro profits and other factors resulting in unprecidented economic disparity. The Bush Presidency has been an unqualified win for the very rich. The merely rich members of Congress and the Media have had to side up with the Administration’s policies in hopes of collecting scraps.
WRT money, the WOT is like a gambling addiction. We have spent money we never had. The idea we could have done a lot of other things with the money spent is kind of silly, to me. We never had the money we spent. But we kept borrowing for our endlessly losing gamble in the ME.
35 years ago America faced this same situation! This is deja vu those who have memory? Lets see… Star Trek’s “communicator” in the form of a cell phone exists today? Still filling that gas tank and oil tank?
Great post, Scarecrow. Great speech, Al. And oldgold? Barely a day goes by that I don’t deeply lament the stolen election.
Had the oil changed in my little, fuel-efficient car at the dealer the other day. Big sign posted there saying “Yes, we will buy your SUV!” Sign of the times. What’re they gonna do with them? Make yard art??
wow, listening to the callins, every Repub caller is spouting off those cranky old complaints about Gore.
Schlogged through molasses to log on past few days. Whassup with that?
It’s true that we wage war on borrowed money. But I don’t think there’s anything silly about the notion that if we can borrow money to wage an unnecessary war, we can borrow money to rebuild our energy infrastructure, or whatever else we think would help us over time.
If the argument is that we can’t rebuild our infrastructure, because that would require us to borrow money, it don’t agree with it. Moreover, if we weren’t borrowing so much to wage war, it would be easier and less costly to borrow it for other priorities, because there would be less demand for borrowing.
Dobbsian strategerie calls for hyper-bloviating faux outrage every day, all day.
He’s quite obviously planning a big, trumpet fanfare-laced run for national office.
He’s an idiot in rutting moose clothing.
It’s actually kinda entertaining to watch him – for about 2 min. tops.
i’m waiting for him to fall off that little pedestal. it’s inevitable. the only question is when. hopefully utoob will be standing at the reddy.
heh.
Gore, on the other hand, speaks with great wisdom. Good on him!
Thanks for this, Scarecrow!
But Gore sounds as though he’s intelligent. I mean that is just icky.
-Idiot America
I agree that photovoltaic progress has been slower than desired, but progress has been made. And of course it’s far from the only game in town when it comes to solar.
I’m just saying money matters. Most of these technologies have evolved way past the point where somebody working in their garage with a few thousand dollars can make any headway. These problems need serious, government-sized funds — to hire scientists, engineers, and pay for expensive experiments.
We are at the level the space race was at around 1958, with a goal of reaching the moon considered lunacy. These problems can and will be solved, but it’s going to take science, technology, and cold cash to do so…
Great word play. And maybe it was lunacy, in that I can see very little benefit (beyond satisfying intellectual/scientific curiosity, which isn’t all bad) to humankind. We are easily led to the glitzy and esoteric when the here and now (and far less exciting) problems and their solutions are so immense.
Not a techie so I don’t know any details but I did hear the tech crew isn’t getting much sleep these days
Good post scarecrow, thanks.
Another aspect of this, in addition to revamping out energy infrastucture, is redesigning our urban centers. Designing our cities so that we live, work and play all in one centratized location. In this way, implementing mass transit routes becomes easier and more efficient. Who knows? People could even walk or ride bikes to their jobs, to shop, to recreate.
And an unintended, but crucial benefit, would be to instill a sense of community which I fear we have lost in our sprawling, anonymous suburbs. Maybe it’s time to go back and reread “Tragedy of the Commons.”
Thomas Sowell’s latest article bashing Obama and claiming that facts no longer matter in politics states that “New Deal policies helped to prolong the Great Depression”(A theme pushed by he odious Glenn Beck). Sowell then cites actions Herbert Hoover as proof.
No wonder the far right wingers loves them Sowell. He affirms their thoughtless gibberish in a thoughtful way.
-G
isn’t one of the differences between the carbon tax and the “cap and trade” approach is who pays the taxes??
is there a link to the audio of gore’s speech?
You could argue that something like nuclear fusion research is “glitzy” (though still very intriguing), but there’s no glitz to wind power, improvements to compact florescent lights or LED’s (for conservation), or photovoltaics, or advanced battery research and development.
And I know it’s a common meme in some quarters to believe the “space race” represented a huge expense with no payoff, but the fact is a huge amount of the technology we use every day can be traced directly or indirectly to the money spent on R&D during those years. Technology we cannot currently live without.
We’re typing on some of it and communicating to Firedoglake on more of it, for example…
“We’re typing on some of it and communicating to Firedoglake on more of it, for example…”
‘zactly…the PC is a direct result of the Apollo program.
Now here’s an improvement to America’s infrastructure that I can get, uh, behind:
“George W. Bush Sewage Plant”
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/18/bush-sewage/
Christy’s upstairs with new threadiness
Thanks Scarecrow.
When that’s a laugh line … things don’t look promising.
Not in theory. In simplest terms, the tax would apply on the amount of emissions from each source; the cap&trade works by saying to each source, you must obtain credits from a supply of credits allocated/rationed (auctioned?) by govt. The market sets the value of the credits, but those who must purchase the credits should be the same set of emitters on whom you would apply the tax. The government decides who is subject to either regime. Individual proposals, of course, could make these sets different, but there’s no theoretical reason why that has to be.
The tax approach assumes we know the correct penalty to achieve the quantity reduction desirerd. If we’re wrong and we don’t get enough reduction, we have to incease the tax. The Cap/trade assumes we know the correct quantity, and the market will figure out the price/penalty and allocate who pays it.
I couldn’t find an audio link.
We need to do something and it should have started yesterday.
I really do not know if Gore’s plan would work. We do need to do something that we all can be a part of.
I have been wondering if a Non-governmental public organization could try and do a non-governmental funding of a movement towards change until the government catches on. I realize we have lots of non-profit organizations which have tried to rally public support for environmental legislation. With the size of our country’s population (minus the poverty rate) a non-governmental organization should be able to fetch $$$. Goodness just a few dollars donated in spare change for climate change could go a long way.
We put a man on the moon. Our country has great spirit and resolve when we “catch” a vision. We cannot fall behind, otherwise our national security will crumble. Unfortunately, we are behind now and we must begin to move. I do not think we can wait on government efforts or private corps funding the change. We the People may need to do it and lead the way and then perhaps Washington will turn its’ collective head in our direction.
Over 300,000,000 people folks. We have do something now.
I wish Gore would think outside the government box.
A campaign like “Climate Spare Change”…
Outside of a tax, I know I would give a few dollars just for investment into establishing large wind, solar and hydro efforts. ANd our country has not even done a good job on investing in hydro. For example:
A few years ago I visited an up state NY facility which built a large dam on top of a foothill to the Catskills. The dam had basically a “plug” at the bottom which opened and the dam would drain down a cylinder through the foothill which has turbines and an underground “catch” with pumps. After the water runs over the the turbines, it not only collects enough energy to power a large area of NY it creates spare power to pump the water back up to refill the dam in order to continue the hydro power process. It is an amazing concept for hydro and should be replicated more often in our country.
It is also sad that a US engineer, who designs Formula 1 race cars, had to take his compressed air car design to India. Yep. We would not fund it’s development here. So TADA motors India (along with France) funded it. The car is selling in India and is due in the US in 2009-2010. A car which runs on compressed air and we said no to one of our own citizens for his amazing design.
http://www.wikio.com/video/16608
Perhaps we need to go grassroots/netroots to make the change our petro dependancy happen.
Hey, MA Bell got built on penny stocks sold door to door, and now look, she knows Us all, calls and emails!
thanks scarecrow – i will look around in a few days to see if i can find one.
Even if it doesn’t work completely, ten years from now we’ll be better off than we are now.
(Think where we might be now, if we’d started a program like this fifteen years ago.)
This is way EPU’d, but… Here’s an interesting guy to listen to, who says Nuclear is not the way to go. He backs up his statements with some hard facts. The guy’s name is Amory Lovins.
Linky: http://www.rmi.org/
Jerome a Paris over at daily kos wrote this diary about the necessary changes. He thinks we can.
Actually, I have a booklet from the DOE from the 70’s on alternative energies. Think where we would be now if we had followed the “alternative energies guidance” from DOE in the 70’s.
Terrific Scarecrow. Thanks for writing about this.
A diarist at DailyKos recently wrote about our energy problems and pointed out that oil is used for transportation, not for electricity generation. Of course there are many coal-fired generation plants in this country that can be eliminated by a switch to solar and wind power, but that won’t impact our reliance on oil. How will his goals, admirable as they are, reduce our dependency on foreign oil unless we also move away from petroleum-based transportation? I have tremendous respect and admiration for Al Gore. I just don’t see how his proposition will help us with regard to our dependence on foreign oil. Admittedly, I haven’t read his entire speech, so maybe he does address this and I’m just uninformed.
Just a question for Gore before we all prostrate ourselves at his feet….has he completely divested his share of the family’s investment in Occidental Petroleum?
If not this is just more say what they wanna hear.
Sorry, but nothing will ever convince me except action, not after the empty words the Democrats used to get elected in 2006.
Once you have energy (hopefully clean) readily available, you have a lot of options, even when that energy is from stationary sources.
All sorts of conversions of energy into alternate forms can be accomplished, and once a direction (or two – maybe electric/batteries and hydrogen?) is decided on for the mobile use problem, we can start building up the (vast) infrastructure needed to support it.
It isn’t easy or simple, but we have to start, and we can’t allow the still-seductive attractions of oil to cause further delay…
Watch/listen to the video. Gore hopes there will be a lot more electric cars to reduce oil/gasoline/diesel consumption. But he starts with the electricity sector first, because that’s the “easiest” to take on.
Before he can change the transportation sector, he needs to make sure the electricity sector doesn’t just produce more carbon emissions while generating the electricity to power our autos. Hence, he focuses on electricity first.
klynn — be careful wrt to the “pumped storage hydro” you describe. The concept has been used for decades by many utilities, as a “peaking resource,” but it is not always economic. It produces energy on the way down, like any hydro plant, but it actually uses more energy to pump the water back up the hill to refill the first reservoir. So utilities produce energy during peak demand hours only, when the value of energy is the highest. They pump the water back up the hill late at night/early morning, when the value of energy is lowest — but the net is a loss of energy. In effect, it’s a huge battery, storing energy (water behind the top reservoir) for use later, but at a loss.
Today, it’s cheaper for utilities to build a gas-fired turbine for peaking purposes than to build a pumped-storage project.
Way late to the post, but…
We have a small research company in our university town, owned by a huge Japanese technology and industrial company. They’re specialty is nano-level materials research. Couple years ago they were working on thin-film membranes for fuel cells, currently they are working on photovoltaics. The goal is a combination of breakthrough production with high efficiencies (both electricity production and manufacturing efficiencies).
The Japanese certainly get it. The US has a history of leading the world in chip speed and efficiency as well as manufacturing technology. We shouldn’t let this get past us.
We also have Clipper Windpower, a cutting-edge manufacturer of large wind turbines. Brilliant technology.
We need to embrace Gore’s challenge and get ahead of the competitive curve in energy technology and manufacturing. The US can leverage this challenge to rebuild our industrial infrastructure and restore quality non-service sector jobs.
Thanks scarecrow.
Thanks.
Are these utility scale, mid range, residential, all three?
I know a possible deal in the works to build a small hospital right on Lake Michigan, the property abutts, right damn next to a utility’s sub station.
Would anything they have fit that scenario?