By now, you’ve probably heard something about lobbyist Steve Payne and his unfortunate run-in with the Times of London (a Murdoch paper, of all things)
Do you want Vice President Dick Cheney’s undivided attention for an hour? Stephen P. Payne, a Texas-based lobbyist, has some advice about how to grease the wheels for such a meeting: Make a six-figure donation to the George W. Bush Presidential Center, a library and museum complex that is scheduled to be built at Southern Methodist University.
When Mr. Payne made that suggestion in a London restaurant last week, he thought he was talking to an agent of the exiled president of Kyrgyzstan. He was actually speaking with undercover representatives of The Times of London, which has posted a video of the encounter.
“I think that the [exiled president’s] family, children, whatever, should probably look at making a contribution to the Bush library,” Mr. Payne says in the video. “How big, I don’t know. It would be like maybe a couple of hundred thousand dollars, something like that. Not a huge amount, but enough to show that they’re serious.”
Payne was pretty specific about what the money would buy his putative client (a rather unpopular and questionably Democratic fellow who used to run Kyrgyzstan)
Asked by an undercover reporter who the politician would be able to meet for that price, Payne said: “Cheney’s possible, definitely the national security adviser [Stephen Hadley], definitely either Dr Rice or . . . I think a meeting with Dr Rice or the deputy secretary [John Negroponte] is possible . . .
“The main thing is that he [the Asian politician] comes, and he’s well received, that he meets with high-level people . . . and we send positive statements made back from the administration about ‘This guy wasn’t such a bad guy, many people have done worse’.”
The White House says they wouldn’t ever and totally didn’t and practically don’t know the guy anyway:
White House press secretary Dana Perino said face time with the president isn’t used to entice library donors.
"There’s categorically no link between any official business and the Bush library," she said.
Ms. Perino wasn’t sure whether Mr. Payne ever brought clients to the White House for meetings.
"He’s been a Republican fundraiser for many years, so I believe the president has probably met him on a number of occasions," she said. "But he was never an employee of the White House, and so I don’t know particularly about any contacts that they would have had."
Only, yeah, it looks like he sort of did work for, if not the White House, the people in the White House, and he was maybe just a bit more to the Bush administration than just a fundraiser*
According to a cached copy of Payne’s curriculum vitae that I found on the Worldwide Strategic Partners website (now scrubbed), Payne claims to have been George W. Bush’s personal travel aide during his father’s 1988 Presidential campaign. Payne served as Senior Advisor to the NASA Administrator on White House and Congressional Affairs in 2001, according to the same document.
If even half of what Stephen Payne says about himself is true, there is no question that he had acces to the highest levels of the Bush administration. Payne was a Bush Pioneer in 2000 and 2004. He was also a member of Bush Cheney 04, George W. Bush for President, and Tom DeLay’s Congressional Committee.
If the old Worldwide Strategic Partners [Payne's company] website is to be believed, Payne has accompanied Bush and Cheney on offical trips, as well as served as an advance man for them: "Currently, Mr. Payne assists the White House as a Senior Advance Representative traveling internationally in advance of and with President Bush and Vice President Cheney, including trips with President Bush to Jordan for the Red Sea Summit (Mid-East Peace Summit), and with Vice President Cheney to the Mid-East, Korea, Kazakhstan, and to Afghanistan for the historic swearing-in of President Hamid Karzai."
…
When it comes to Republican bona fides, Polland’s website bio says it all: "Gary is on a first name basis with President Bush (he is called "Chairman"), his political alliances are widespread from the White House, where he is friends with key Presidential assistants like Karl Rove to United States Senators Cornyn, Graham, Hutchison, and Kyl; and to House leaders like Eric Canter and Ted Poe. In Texas, Gary is an advisor to the GOP and its statewide office holders. Gary is also a key fundraiser for Republicans and is responsible for raising more than $3.35 million for Republican candidates and causes during the last ten years." Polland is also a McCain fund raiser.
And has intervened with his many friends in the Republican party on behalf of foreign governments before:
Quite successfully, by some accounts
Dos [the man Payne was negotiating with] had good reason for believing that Payne could [get the White House to support his client]. Payne has accompanied Bush and Cheney on foreign trips to the Middle East and Asia, and he sits on the influential advisory council to the Department of Homeland Security. Payne is also president of a lobbying company, Worldwide Strategic Partners (WSP), which specialises in connecting business and political interests with the US government.
…
The Sunday Times had initially approached Dos earlier for help in investigating corrupt practices in his homeland of Kazakhstan. Many business deals there are said to involve the discreet transfer of money between figures high up in the Kazakh regime and western companies.
Dos is exiled from Kazakhstan after setting up his own political party, Atameken, at the end of 2006. He was forced to flee following threats to his life.
Before that happened, however, he acted as an adviser to Timur Kulibayev, the billionaire son-in-law of Nursultan Nazarbayev, the Kazakh president, and a man of considerable influence within the country.
Dos said that in the autumn of 2005 he had been asked by the Kazakh government, via Kulibayev, to arrange a visit by Cheney. The intention was to improve the country’s international standing.
Dos had spent several days negotiating with Payne. A deal was eventually agreed, he said, and he understood that a payment of $2m was passed, via a Kazakh oil and gas company, to Payne’s firm.
The following May, Cheney made a brief trip to Kazakhstan. His visit was remarked upon in the media at the time, both for the lavish praise which he publicly heaped on Nazarbayev and for the stark contrast between this and a speech he had made just a day earlier at a conference in Lithuania in which he had lambasted Russia for being insufficiently democratic. Now he was lauding Nazarbayev, who has effectively made himself president for life and in whose country it is an offence to criticise him….
Payne, who had confirmed to Dos that he had organised Cheney’s visit, denied having received any payment from any entity connected to Kazakhstan, although he admitted having been paid to help other foreign interests in the past, including people from Pakistan and Azerbaijan.
But, you know, discreetly:
American law states that anyone representing a foreigner for political reasons must register as an agent. Failure to do so is punishable by a fine or jail.
Payne and WSP do not appear to have registered much of their work for foreigners with the Department of Justice.
Payne said WSP’s work for Azerbaijan was nonpolitical, but its brochure says that it “implemented an aggressive media campaign to discredit the Azeri opposition”.
Mr Payne was asked today to step down from… wait for it…
Department spokeswoman Laura Keehner confirmed to United Press International that Stephen Payne was asked to resign. […]
“The department asked him to step down” from his post on the Secure Borders and Open Doors Subcommittee of the Homeland Security Advisory Council, Keehner said, declining to comment on the reasons.
Tomorrow’s late night: Mr. Payne, Mr. Hunt, Boeing, the library, and the fence.
*Kudos to Lindsay, who’s the only one who had some of this



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booshed!
yep.
sorry this is so late going up. I fragged my mouse and had to finish up on my husband’s computer.
Aloha, Julia!
julia!
hey, you.
hey, Suz.
oh goodie – a two parter.. can’t wait to find out about Mr. Payne, Mr. Hunt, Boeing, the library, and the fence
Digg Julia’s post HERE!
Well, I can’t wait to find out what happens to my computer at 10:40 tomorrow evening when I’m trying to post Mr. Payne, Mr. Hunt, Boeing, the library, and the fence.
As it is, whoever has “Julia drops her mouse in a Super Big Gulp of ice water” wins tonight’s pool.
dugg and thanks neuro
oh crikey, julia, that sucks big green slimy ones
Dugg Neuro!
Hi Julia!
Reading…
Now why would your mouse be elevated that high to land in the cup…?
Sen. Ted Stevens, from what I’ve found out, wants to make it so people who do what Payne and others have done, we can’t find out who they are. Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich, running against Stevens, wants to say “Whoa!” to this.
BTW – the TedFest Poetry Contest keeps accepting entries at today’s slot for another 22 hours.
the beleaguered husband is a saint and quit playing Age of Empires to let me use his computer.
I remember when I could fix all my mouse problems by scraping the gunk off of the trackball with a fingernail…
Admiration comes in many forms.
Oh, it wasn’t. The cup was on the floor. So it wouldn’t spill on the keyboard [hollow laugh]
Yeah, really. Hardly seems as though they’d have to give him money, does it?
lol
I’ve been following your contest with great amusement.
I hear you guys were on the radio in Anchorage this evening.
Hey Julia. Great post.
BTW, I met up with three firepups tonight at Netroots Nation. :) Can’t wait to meet more tomorrow.
Heh, that’s funny! Tho, it certainly hugs…! ;-)
Yeah. The station seemed to be getting into it – offering prizes like concert tickets. I wasn’t in on it, just a local progressive announcer taking off on the same riff. Ted is SO inspiring.
Oh, dude, I’m jealous.
So you’re going to be onsite for Tomorrow’s Big Announcement?
was forking kewl, et – you sure are generating a lotta buzz
julia, do ya think the bribing bozo is gonna be indicted?
I love it.
I’m guessing your venerable Senator isn’t all that pleased, though. No sense of humor, that man.
Waxman has already extended Payne a little invite…! ;-)
Well, the administration sure has tossed him under the bus.
I particularly enjoy the part where Bush barely knows him now, although he’s been a guest at the little cottage in Crawford.
it used to be that would be followed immediately by the evocation of the 5th due to the fbi investigation
*sigh* i sure do miss the old doj
Regarding Julia’s topic, Keith Olbermann reported tonight that in the Kyrgyzstan sting, Payne not only asked for a donation to the boosh libery, he also asked for a six-figure “fee” for himself…
You’d think Shrub would be a little more gracious to someone who’d helped clear brush…!
boosh is probably suffering from the same form of “amnesia” that kept him from remembering Jack Abramoff…
bribin’ is hard work and needs to be adequately compensated yanno. in other words, he has expenses yanno and, and works hard
Secure Borders and Open Doors Subcommittee
Payne: gives new meaning to “open doors”
and boosh would approve. cause he knows hard work, too
He’s ranted or yelled at me before, so…..
I can imagine the phone ringing – “Munger! *&^%%##”
the figure I saw was $750k, of which $250k would go to the library.
No word on what the split was for the Kazakhstan deal
i’m sure that k following $250 was a typo on their part
No kidding.
Somewhere (warm), Ken Lay is shaking his head.
Well, it’s not like Condi and the Sith Lord are doing anything anyway. I’ll be glad when they are gone, even happier when they have to take another oath, in front of a judge.
influence peddlering is hard work, dammit.
People just don’t give these people credit. It’s not as if they were trying to live off the government teat instead of…
er
Never mind.
Evening, all-
Saw that, couldn’t help but think of this:
“The Department of Justice has been engaged in sharp practices since the earliest days and remains a fecund source of oppression and corruption today. It is hard to recall an administration in which it was not the center of grave scandal.”-H.L.Mencken
Oh, cool. I wouldn’t have thought you could get Sen. Stevens, the fattest piglet on the federal tit since Phil Gramm left government, to yell at you for free.
would not put it past the old coot calls et collect
and you know, since Bush doesn’t know him and he’s never worked for the White House, there’s no question of executive privilege, right?
A ‘badge of honor’, ET… Wear it with pride…! 8-)
It took awhile but I got EPU’d when I finished my Villanelle for Ted Stevens. See, even the form of poetry used is poetry describing Ted Stevens. I didn’t want to bur the metaphor to deep. Reproduced here for slings and arrows.
Ode to Ted
Cranky ol’ Ted builds bridges with fear
Good bills tho’ he stops with a hold
Beholden by lobbyists he holds so Dear
Slaughtering our freedoms Ted has no Peer
‘Tis for our own good we’re told,
Cranky ol’ Ted builds bridges with fear
Donors access granted, citizens to the rear
His attention is purchased with Gold
Beholden by lobbyists he holds so Dear
Plagued by scandal and bribes we hear
He must be beat, he’ll never fold
Cranky ol’ Ted builds bridges with fear
Angry ol’ rhetoric is his only gear
drill, bow, the Ted Stevens mold
Beholden by lobbyists he holds so Dear
A loss for Ted, his eye to tear
Empathy for him has been sold
Cranky ol’ Ted builds bridges with fear
Beholden by lobbyists he holds so Dear
Should be interesting to see if the ‘Pixie Dust’ is sprinkled about…!
tangled up in TUBEZ!
Excellent !
I figured everybody was toobed out, so I didn’t mention it.
wow, ofg, wow
I heart verseforms. Nice job.
I noticed ya said you were going to talk about Boeing, Julia. Is it about no-bid contracts? I posted about Lockheed Martin and no-bid contracts today…
I bow to you, sir.
well, at the risk of tipping my hand, I’m vaguely planning to touch on the question which company that hires which lobbyist has a certain imperfectly oversighted contract?
dayam, its almost like the night before fitzmas… jane has an annoucement at fdl caucus tomorrow that we don’t know what it is; julia will have part 2 tomorrow about the plane, library and fence.
isn’t there a hearing or something tomorrow also?
Yeah, I’m a little bit wondering about that announcement. I’ll be over in the corner eating my liver.
i’ll be sitting next to ya
Oh, and: the picture? is an artist’s rendering of the library they were going to build if they went with Texas A&M (Phil Gramm’s old stomping grounds), with a few small changes (you can tell by the kerning).
All hail my mad p’shop skillz…
I wonder if we have to do the fava beans and chianti.
hahahaha… george bush bribery
Briar-berry
OK if I just bring takeout?
hey kirk
pout.
You’re no fun.
I bet Jane takes the next step with her blog.
shrinks takes the fun outta everything
We all have to get poodles?
You mean we are going to get “edit” back???
its terribly frustrating not knowing and i’ve never done patience well
jane keeps secrets really well
erm?
What step is that? I have a, you know, small but fervent vested interest here.
umm – how bout take out fava?
sorry to be a kill-joy: I’m just worried Jane’ll annouce we’re going video. I’ll be doomed: dial-up
Come to think of it, I’d be more doomed with video.
How’s the chianti?
_ _ _
and hey, suz! how’s token liking the cool air?
Heh, too true…
i’ve got a few personal Ted stories, but this is my favorite. I think I told it here a couple years ago:
Back in early 1996, I was at a lunch for Alaska artists with Ted Stevens. We sat next to each other. He showed me a picture of a cutthroat trout he had caught the summer before. I showed him a picture of some trout flies my 7-year-old son had tied. He was impressed, and asked ET Jr (can I still use that?) to tie him a couple.
I told ET Jr and he asked me, “what kind does he want?” I called Ted’s DC office. They called back. “Royal Coachman.”
Two months later, the Alaska delegation opened a Mat-Su Valley office. The Mayor of Wasilla, a close friend, called and told me Ted wants [ET Jr] to be there for the opening, and he’s hoping your son has tied his flies. My son wasn’t that impressed, until his school teacher – the mayor’s wife – explained to him how important Ted was.
He must have tied 60 or so flies, trying to get them right. He threw in some other patterns he knew work on Cutthroats, and even invented two pattern modifications He spent two weeks’ 7-yo allowance on a nice presentation box, and put his 12 best in it. He had been told by me that Ted would probably pick two or three.
We went to the office dedication, and eventually, Ted said “I hear there’s a young man here who has something he wants to show me.” Our friend the mayor turned to ET Jr, saying “You’re on.” Cameras were rolling, so he was nervous. He shuffled up to Ted, and they bantered like only a seasoned pol can with a little kid.
Finally, Ted said, I’d really like to see your flies.” ET Jr handed them to him. Ted looked at them, commented on how they could have been tied by the best pro in Alaska (Ted was right about that). He thanked ET Jr, slammed the box shut, and put it into his pocket.
ET Jr’s jaw dropped! His two weeks’ allowance and nine extra flies – gone! I could hardly keep from starting to laugh very hard, but then I saw his worry. The mayor knew how to handle it. He went up, took my son’s hand, turned him toward him, and said “Welcome to politics, Alex.”
Three months later, Alex got an engraved “thank you” card from Sen. Stevens, with a picture of the Cutthroat trout he caught with one of my son’s flies. He asked, “Where’s my box?”
LOL
I doubt it. Maybe a perfume line? ;)
a good point!
Oh, totally not concerned. Letting it play out in the fullness of time [twitch. twitch.]
I think I need more Chianti
kirk, it is supposed to get hotter tomorrow up here – into the 90’s
I think the folks in Alaska should start thinking about a Ted Stevens library. After all, he may be retiring sooner than he had planned…(Jan. 09?) The lobbyists and special interests would fund it, of course…they could have an architectural contest, but you know the winning design would basically be A Series of Tubes…there you would find preserved and immortalized a record of every bribe-acceptance, sleasy deal, bill hold, backstabbing, double-dealing, corrupt practice, kickback, and so on that the Senator was associated with in his long and ugly career…the winning entries of ET’s poetry contest would be inscribed hugely on the walls, and a recording of the “Series of Tubes” screed would play on an endless loop…
More to the moving pictures thing. Jane has a background in film and the Progressive punditry class star is in ascension. I see more of a multi-media approach, doing more posts by video and such. FDL has developed quite a following and to mainstream our ideas I see an option to develop something in The Young Turks model, only with better production values.
Hey – we just prescribe the lithium. You can stop it anytime you want….
Actually, ironically enough, my grandpa was violently allergic to fava beans to the point where he would have died if he’d’ve eaten them.
I think that may have been what turned me away from haute cannibalism.
Geez, video? Yeah. I’m available to write captions.
I’m doomed.
pinot grigio, dude. but otherwise, yeah.
watch the big announcement turn out to be that jon stewart and/or stephen colbert are the forking entertainment
Do we all get to star in this production? I’ll be a spear carrier.
The Ann Stevens Room at the Anchorage Library is named after his first wife, who died when the oil company Lear jet they were flying in, crashed at the Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport. That was almost 30 years ago.
There are already a lot of buildings in Alaska named after Ted. Last summer, they dedicated a new fisheries research center outside of Juneau to him. I was there a couple weeks later, and checked. Yep – the nameplates are very easy to remove.
Can you install a nice Valium/salt lick at the entrance to the blog before the election, please?
Are you like me, with a face made for radio?
[drums heels on floor, flecks self with spittle]
no, see, I had work to do.
Oh well – at least I’ll have my Saturday nights free again…to brush the cats.
guess I’m gonna go eat worms….
you got gummy worms?
I don’t know Jane very well, only having audience with her ladyship but one brief time. I can say she is very appreciative of everyones effort on this blog, down to the most infrequent commenter. Those are like customers and the coin in trade for building alliances.
All boats will rise in this tide.
Mais non, Dr. Kirk. Nobody hates you, everybody likes you, no need to eat worms, unless of course you’re that sort of locavore, in which place [deity of choice] bless.
for you, Margot: anything.
OFG, I’ve got a face made for radio and delivery made for telegraph.
I think I’m gonna look for work in B.C: at least I could spend my spare tarm farming moss or something….
I could be very wrong about it…just a wild guess.
You can’t do links on video. I can’t see getting entirely away from regular posts.
all the same, I heart you, Dr. Kirk.
Actually, gummy worms sound good. No worms that I know of here (kitties are indoor tigers).
Thanks, Julia! I haven’t gotten to that sort of locavore yet (though I did have friends from Oaxaca who thought puffed grubs were a delicacy).
And OFG, I do believe your right re Jane. I can’t help assuming the worst: I’m a Celtic Capricorn who used to work on oncology wards.
I still like the edit feature restoration idea myself…that would be awesome and truly worthy of a Big Announcement! /s
I’m pretty cynical, but I can’t help thinking that there are any number of things Jane could have done with her time that would have been less time, less money, and less trouble.
Occam’s razor suggests she means it.
i try to hope for the best but always plan for the worst. i’m in touch with my inner pessimist
Maybe Jane will announce that FDL will have its own convention next year
I have my fingers crossed for an addition to the lineup.
I heart you too, Julia.
If I get you a waterproof mouse, will you let me write captions with you?
can i provide the soundtrack?
Oh, don’t we hate this? I thought that age would change me.
something good this way comes
not that I’m a pessimist, but I’m a little nervous that if I get a waterproof mouse my computer, thwarted of ways to go wrong, will explode.
there is always the keyboard julia
I think Jane stopped by the TedFest this evening, briefly, near the end
thus answering the question “is it possible to look like Bob Dylan and be hot?”
oh dayam, kobe has jane’s blackberry again
critical Mass?
Suz, you’re a woman after my own heart.
But you knew that
(jinx)
Me too. Strider was barking “Give me that Labtop!”
sure!
Does Tucker count??? he is half poodle??
yes maam!
token claims he has a wee bit of toy poodle on his mother’s side of the family.
But i am most decidedly a dudette!
that is so forking kewl… and i am so forking jealous
but.. i did order my POD today so i’m consoling myself with that
me too…
Julia, thanks for this fine post and the great pic….asw well as the chance to rattle those worry beads. I’m gonna wander off to dream of what I’ll do with all that free time on Saturday night (brush the tawny longhair first, are the darker longhair first?)
But first – hey nahant! What’s the verdict? Did they fid your brain *g* ?
julia–” Payne served as Senior Advisor to the NASA Administrator on White House and Congressional Affairs in 2001, according to the same document. ”
thanks, another missing link, i’ve been trying to find something out for days…..
stephen payne is president of advanced clean air technologies that has an exclusive marketing rights for a nasa developed coal emissions technology….. says was developed with phoenix systems international, inc (psii) who has exclusive licensing agreement, but patent notice says nothing about it being co-developed, which would usually be on the patent document. can’t find a solitary thing on phoenix systems international except for patent licensing info, very odd. found where they also got foreign licensing a month later….
this is VERY ODD. said the product was co-developed by nasa and phoenix systems international, but can’t find them anywhere, wouldn’t they need a buildiing or lab somewhere? or was partially funded by them?
supposedly they are in pine brooke, nj……patent licensing granted by nasa in 2005
he also is involved in the us-baltic foundation……
but the thing that is alarming to me is the thing i mentioned above, and it’s nowhere in the news.
he’s president of a company (acat) that has exclusive rights to coal emissions technology that was nasa created. and they also have foreign rights to it. and the company that now holds the patent is nowhere to be found. at least i can’t find it……still have to ask my dad to dig for me, he knows more about corporate hidey-holes than i do.
Time for bed. I leave the lake with a triple lindy.
Tomorrow Jane will tell all so don’t sweat it gang!
Now the Bush Liebery. Well, a Ist edition of My Pet Goat cost money. Plus he needs a copies of all of Ann Coulter’s work, Bill O’Reilly’s tomes, Doughy Pantload’s scriptures, the complete National Review, etc… . A complete set of Dummies books too would useful.
Sure, but you have to type one-handed.
I don’t see them until the 31st and then I get to find out what is up there!
is dudery gender specific?
Didn’t know. You wacky young people…
” . A complete set of Dummies books too would useful.”
Yeah…he could spend his retirement hanging out at his liebery and learning how to read those.
That is, until the process server from The Hague shows up and he has to split for Paraguay
Newton did you get all the tracks?? Nothing bounced when I sent then one at a time… you really need to get an alternative ISP besides Asshole On Line!! They are throttling ya!!!
Saw him live once. Can’t get no respect! He was howlin’ funny.
Yeah, I get the impression Lindsay was sort of concerned about that too.
AAR, he’s lost his friends, at least for as long as anyone’s paying attention.
I always think you learn interesting things when that happens (remember Brownie?)
sleep well, OFG!
Philip, I loved your account of Ted grabbing from ET Jr: thanks for that image.
nahant, I know you’ll pass!
and sunny, we can enjoy our last pre-doom hours.
I’m goiing to celebrate by sleeping.
Be well and good dreams, folks.
Thanks, Doc.
Julia just shake the mouse out and leave it in the sun for a couple of hours … should dry out and presto magic start working again… used to put keyboards in the dishwasher no detergent and they wouyld work just fine after that…
I must have gotten them all – they’re listed in my in-box.
However, I can’t listen to them yet, do to a technical thingy. Will probably be able to listen by Friday.
Can’t wait! The first one is beautiful!
Night Kirk now go and cuddle with your kittens…
Thanks. I’m sure it’ll dry out fine.
AAR, g’night, folks. Heading off with the beleaguered husband.
g’nite ofg, kirk, and any other leaving sleepy pup i might have missed
g’nite julia
Give him a hug for me. Sucks to learn about government so early.
Can’t listen MP#’s ??? Dam I could have sent you another format had I known that… Must be an Apple thing… if it not for an Ipod it don’t work… but you know the shuffle will play them.. go figure..
No – it’s a “me” thing.
By Friday.
Night Julia and I did like your post very much… just shows us what we all already knew… bunch of crooks running OUR country…
Oh…
ES is waiting in line…
So Southern Methodist University will house Commander Decider’s liberry? But he went to Yale (and Harvard?). Shouldn’t they be required to put it on their campus, as penance for actually giving a degree to such an obvious fraud?
God forbid at Harvad or Yale… they couldn’t wait to get rid of him /s
julia at 134–emptywheel’s thread the other day on the 12th had a lot of the same stuff. william oldham and me.
http://emptywheel.firedoglake……ment-86524
he also posted that worldwide strategic partners had a bancruptcy hearing the other day.
lindsay didn’t mention anything about phoenix systems, i hope she does, i’m drawing a blank. supposedly the co-creators of the emissions technology and they’re nowhere to be found. it’s fishy as hell. it blew my brain when i found it the other day.
In theory, the decision to add all these blogs to FDL was great. I was/am very happy with all these additions and I hope the Netroots continues to evolve in this direction. However, readers don’t seem to be supporting the new arrangement. So many great posts from these other FDL bloggers can be up for days, and receive a couple of comments, or none at all. And their previous audience doesn’t seem to have followed them over here by and large.
Plus, after an initial explosion onto the scene 4-5 years ago, readership has definitely plateaued at many of the biggies. FDL has made some bold and visionary moves to give a shot in the arm to site visitation, but it doesn’t seem to be doing much (looked at Sitemeter for the last 12 months).
I work in marketing and know firsthand how difficult it is to change people’s habits for the most part, so I empathize with FDL’s dilemma (can’t imagine how challenging the financial side must be for a venture like this). Could theorize all day why it’s been like this, but it is what it is.
Hopefully Jane’s got some new innovative idea to roll out tomorrow. I just found out about TRex hanging up the keyboard, perhaps for good, and hope that’s not happening here.
Of course, maybe it’s a minor tweak. Time tells all!
He’s 19 now, 6′3″ and still tying flies to die for.
bankruptcy, geez.
time for bed.
john2, a lot of the staff really didn’t want that library there.
Here’s a link
and here’s another one from 2006