Aloha, ES!

OK Neuro I am waiting……………..my shovel is all clean withing to do it’s work…

Forgot……..

WARNING: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, WITH CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President, 69 members of the Senate and 293 members of the House of Representatives.

Now every one be careful you know they are listening…
And no they don’t any goodies!!

hi ES. i’ve been haunted by this slide show for weeks. Finally posted it tonight. The Emmy Lou Harris song with it just goes to the heart….

Live Free or Die! Inspiring words I intend to live by; NSA and the vile Cheney or no.

Digg!

comment zed-7?

Ya must be from Cowhampshire…

punaise!

Hi, ES. Did everyone get through this day okay? Anyone need a hug? {{{you}}}

Boy you are getting slow Neuro been tapping my toes waiting for ya… Dugg

neuro!

Good evening everyone.. Hope you all enjoyed zed “punaise” 7! Found a good live performance on youtube and couldn’t resist sharing it with the Late late pupulists…)

nice tune, ES – kind of Sade like.

dugg and great tune es

Digg exploded on me, then it said that page didn’t exist, then my computer froze up…

Left this downstairs, but probably makes more sense up here:

In theory, the decision to add all these blogs to FDL was great. I was/am very happy with all these additions and I hope the Netroots continues to evolve in this direction. However, readers don’t seem to be supporting the new arrangement. So many great posts from these other FDL bloggers can be up for days, and receive a couple of comments, or none at all. And their previous audience doesn’t seem to have followed them over here by and large.

Plus, after an initial explosion onto the scene 4-5 years ago, readership has definitely plateaued at many of the biggies. FDL has made some bold and visionary moves to give a shot in the arm to site visitation, but it doesn’t seem to be doing much (looked at Sitemeter for the last 12 months).

I work in marketing and know firsthand how difficult it is to change people’s habits for the most part, so I empathize with FDL’s dilemma (can’t imagine how challenging the financial side must be for a venture like this). Could theorize all day why it’s been like this, but it is what it is.

Hopefully Jane’s got some new innovative idea to roll out tomorrow. I just found out about TRex hanging up the keyboard, perhaps for good, and hope that’s not happening here.

Of course, maybe it’s a minor tweak. Time tells all!

It is! Nice to see you punaise.. I thought maybe your clients swept you up and took you away for a giant project in Singapore or something. *g*

pun, I went up to listen to the tune, saw the “Xero 7″, finally understood your comment No. 7…duh

i think it is going to be a good thing

jane’s vision for fdl has been good so far and i see nothing to indicate anything negative

Xero Zero 7

Dam I hate it when that happens… have you been doing the requisite maintenance on it??? If not try the FREE(Suz) onecare.live full scan … but wait until you don’t need the computer for a few hours… make sure the scan has started before you walk away..

au contraire, mon ami – tough times coming down the pike, hunkering down in survival mode….

shucks, twas the first service agreement for something free i’d ever seen – i was sure that they were gonna want my credit card #

Interesting take.. much like my own, though I haven’t put it in words. I know I wish I could watch Grit TV, but my connection speed (or browser(s) doesn’t like it.

I really like Spencer and Tboog.. but T does more tromping on the pundits and idiots really well like the old Jane, which is fun but not really my thing. Attackerman is teh awesome, imo,. he takes a little getting used to, but worth it. Much as I like Cliff.. i get enough McCain @ fdl…. can only take so much McCain.

Emptywheel is just teh Goddess… as are all the standards and some newbies on the FDL front page.

thanks, nahant–no, I have not tried that, will do so as I’m leaving tonight. There’s no need to monitor it while it’s running, is there?

i was sure that they were gonna want my credit card #

Nah, they just wanna rifle through your address book.

gotta get in line behind those peeping toms at the enn ess aaa

What happened to TRex?

I hear you loud and clear… Been planning long term strategy with my old friends and neighbors… Preparing for a big change.. I do believe it’s coming soon… and i don’t mean from the Democrats. /s (not as soon anyway)

IIRC it was always there.. but I have been know to be wrong in the past and I am sure I will be again… does that make me human??

Maybe it will come out some day that MS has been helping them break the law, just like the telecoms…

I just finished my weekly radio show *falls over*

Now i just found some new material to play. Yeah, i’m miffed about all the politics but right now it’s just time to

Shake Ya Boogie–Mocean Worker

Gotta loosen up before i give myself an ulcer, at this rate. This is the perfect remedy from one of my favorite artists i stumbled on back in 2000, with a cute video too. :D

You guys heard about Bush’s new rule? Wants to require all health-care institutions that receive federal funds to guarantee non-discrimination against providers who refuse to provide abortions and other related services. The related services include emergency contraception for rape victims, and the really scary part is it redefines what an abortion is:

“any of the various procedures — including the prescription, dispensing and administration of any drug or the performance of any procedure or any other action — that results in the termination of the life of a human being in utero between conception and natural birth, whether before or after implantation.”

Notice that the terminology includes that an egg IS a human being. And some in the anti-abortion crowd argue (against the science) that birth control pills ARE abortifacients.

No need to overturn Roe with this one – contraception = abortion. If it passes, it’s all over and they didn’t have to go to SCOTUS to do it.

I have been saying for quite a while now that fear of overturning Roe is a canard – it has been dying the death of a thousand cuts.

I have also been trying to get the message out that the abortion debate is really NOT about babies – at least on the right-wing anti side. It’s about controlling women, and getting rid of all ‘liberal’ ideas and programs. That’s why once the ‘babies’ are born they don’t give a damn about them.

Yes, the vision has been incredible. Of course I have no knowledge whatsoever about the finances and always wonder how blogs do it, but “vision” usually needs money behind it to be sustainable in the long term.

Maybe Jane’s dogs are getting a/c put in their doghouses as we type from all the big FDL cash…have no idea…just something that I’ve wondered about.

Trex is taking a vacation, re-grouping, reflecting….The treehouse is still alive and well. thanks to Tex Betsy, teh Spook. burns, and Fat Charlie the Arcangel…it ain’t over til it’s over…

how’s your finger, neuro?

he kind of hit the wall and realized that for his own sanity he needed to unplug for a while, maybe longer. actually began doing real time things like getting outdoors, seeing friends, etc. plus one of his dear old cats disappeared, much to his chagrin.

Betsy (and the Spook) are tending the shop for now.

Equals the literal and figurative end of the Republican party. Period.

I just got through watching a rerun of Tuesday’s interview with Jane Mayer on CSPAN– I think its

Counterterrorism After September 11
New America Foundation
Jane Mayer , New Yorker Magazine
Steven C. Clemons , New America Foundation

Mayer’s book has got to be a blockbuster. It seems to establish how Cheney has staged a coup from within, taking advantage of 9/11 to hijack the national agenda, and browbeating any opposition. He must be held accountable, for the sake of our future.

But equally important is what to do about Jay Rockefeller, Nancy Pelosi, and Jane Harman, whose complicity borders on criminality. Mayer’s interview reminds us that the national context of their complicity, initially, was national paranoia about terrorism, and how resisting torture at that time would supposedly have exposed the Democrats to severe criticism for being “soft” on terrorism, “weak” on defense, etc.

I think they, too, must be held accountable. That is, the opposition party MUST be an opposition party where national values are at stake. They swore to defend the Constitution– but didn’t.

I don’t know whether they should be held “guilty” or not. But Democrats– and Americans in general– need to have a conversation about security vs. civil rights, and whether having one requires reducing the other. In other words, we MUST arm future generations of politicians with the rhetorical tools to thwart such security stampedes in the future that threaten to overwhelm our best and highest values. What the Democrats have done is earn their stereotype of being weak. And to propel us down the slippery slope that a future Hitler can use to hijack the government.

Bob in HI

Hey stranger, nice to see you pop in.

Been busy *grin* Mostly with the radio thing and my RL work driving me batty. Good to see you too.

Now here’s interesting: Does the Republican Party say that a sperm is a person?

Thanks, Laura…I just tried to go to the treehouse, and all I got was the archive, which appeared to be empty…?

Finger is still recovering, slowly…tip is very sensitive so I have been keeping a metal splint on it. The funny thing is that at first I couldn’t type at all, having that one finger out of commission totally messed up my touch typing, the other fingers didn’t know what to do when I couldn’t type a key with my left ring finger…but now after some practice the little finger and middle finger have picked up those duties on their own so I can just type away, almost like normal. The adaptability of the human brain, eh?

I’m sure the finger will be fine, just needs a little time.

Yes – that is the conversation that has NOT been happening since 9/11. We are treated to Britney and AnnaNicole and equally vapid crap all day 24/7 and any actual political news is all terror all the time.

How do we initiate and actually HAVE that conversation?

In Sweden they do it all the time – the King or the Prime Minister announce the topic – they hold town-hall meetings all over the country for 6 months to a year, then there is a national referendum. What a great way to run a country.

And, I really, really want to claim a tax deduction for miscarriage. So many women have miscarriages, and I don’t think they get ‘credit’ for that. Any tax lawyers around tonight?

Oh heck no. It’s only the eggs because they are in the WOMAN doncha know!

It is all just a way to make IT a wedge issue so they can stay in power…..this had better be stopped…. the ladies I know don’t want any one to tell them how or what they can or cannot do about THEIR body… they may to talk about things but no way no outside control of them…. Fuck Bush and the asses who voted for him…

Be careful – some dope legislator in my state introduced an egg is a person bill that would have required law enforcement agencies to ‘determine if a woman was criminally negligent’ after a miscarriage by not eating right, or drinking or whatever. Be very careful!

birth and a SS# is required to claim the deduction for that year. not a lawyer

cool tune. reminiscent of Triplets of Belleville soundtrack (which got totally jobbed for the Oscar, btw)

That Pelosi and Harman (RINO) did not meet with their cohort to discuss the illegality that they had been slapped with is their own damned fault. If they had called in their own troops to stand up against unconstitutionality then maybe this illegality would have been circumvented. They failed to live up to their own oaths. Screw ‘em.

But ya better not SPILL your seed without trying to make a baby… ya right…

isn’t that why the general has them storage jars in the basement?

Evening all.

Tomorrow’s adventure – temperamental kitteh getting a rabies shot. Could get very ugly…

*grin* i still need to see that movie. Never got a chance to, and i love it when the foreign movies get the animated oscars. :D You should have heard my cheers when Spirited Away took the VERY first one. Hisaishi Joe should have gotten the OST oscar for that one too. He’s soooooo underrated as a composer.

I thought Obamas recent invitation to all interested persons.. set up meetings and propose what the D party platform should be.. was one excellent idea.

But we do need a national (outside of partisan) discussion.. far to much is simply not known by far to many.

Double Helix dna ladder straight from God with two packs of luckies and a half a tank of gas. Yeah if it is an X chromosome.

Thick long sleeve shirt!

yep… gotta make them new cannon fodder when they need them…

I really like these house-party ideas that Move-On and Obama and others have been having to try to push issues. The biggest problem is that they are all partisan – and invitees are pretty well self-selected to already agree with the topic of discussion.

I’d like to see a lot of them run by the League of Women Voters or some other non-partisan, very credible group like that.

You do have body armor, right?

Really good catnip for after…

The next step is that they would start seizing women’s medical records on a fishing expedition to see if they had suffered any miscarriages that needed to be “investigated”…a few years ago an attorney general in my state (who was subsequently kicked out of office by the voters) subpoenaed a bunch of women’s health clinic records, ostensibly to investigate whether there had been any child sexual abuse…he really just wanted to harass and expose women who had had abortions…

How odd. Perhaps this will get you to treehouse (still alive and kickin”).
Glad to hear you’re on the mend and can do a 2 hand typing variation! 1-hand is tedious.

and heavy duty thick gloves?

Or before if you kitteh gets all goofy and dopey like mine with catnip.

Yep. I was proud of Kansas for slapping the crap out of that Fundy.

Make that a leather shirt… try holding an Iguana… talk about claws… they hvae sharp hooks on the end of the claws… rips skin like is was butter… I have my share of scars on my arms… did I say we have had one for going on 14 yrs now… just over 5ft nose to tip of his tail..

Florida had tried to pass a law that would have put any pregnant woman in jail if she was positive on a drug/alcohol test any time during her pregnancy – and the tests would have been mandated as part of her prenatal care.

Fortunately that didn’t go anywhere, but it could.

I did read about that what was the final outcome Neuro??

I have to say my political/blogging/activist mood this week is very much like the Zero 7 song above..

Part of it is the, OK, what’s next? with no immediate answer.. I want to keep fighting!! And of course the fact we have so few real allies at the top right now, makes selcting the correct fight difficult…otherwise one is just banging their head against a wll.. I wouldn’t call it depressed, but more like a hot date across the bay and no wind in my sails to get me across…)

But equally important is what to do about Jay Rockefeller, Nancy Pelosi, and Jane Harman, whose complicity borders on criminality. Mayer’s interview reminds us that the national context of their complicity, initially, was national paranoia about terrorism, and how resisting torture at that time would supposedly have exposed the Democrats to severe criticism for being “soft” on terrorism, “weak” on defense, etc

At the end of WW II, in the case of General Yamashita, it was ruled that failure to exercise oversight responsibility to prevent war crimes is itself a war crime punishable by death, and Yamashita was executed.

As of today, President Bush can declare anyone an “enemy combatant” and order them held incommunicado indefinitely in military prison:
– http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2008-07-16.asp
– http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…..index.html

Oh shit. Do you think they know The Quick Brown Fox Jumped Over The Lazy Dog?

Jeez! I say we counter with the idea that a sperm is a person. These folks are so deviant that they must be countered with their own spew. A million persons just washed my innards. Oh well, I wish! (Bob in HI, you wanted more meat in late, late night…….enjoying it any? s/)

I love how Iguanas match the black road with a yellow stripe in on the roads of old Mexico. At least you know when the yellow lines move it’s not the after effects of last nights mescal. *g*

Once helped a friend destroy his large house in SF, looking for a lost large iguana.. It was in the chimney.

Doubt it way over their head… need a team of annalist to figure it out…

(fanning self) Where’s my fainting couch?!?

The irony……dontcha think!

well, it’s a twisted tale. we elected a new, D attorney general, and he reviewed the records, and dismissed a lot of the charges his predecessor had filed against the abortion providers, but found that some of them were valid (for not having an independent second medical opinion in each case, or something like that) but then he got caught up in a scandal as it seems he (married) had had an affair with a woman (married to someone else) who had worked in the previous office where he had worked as D.A. (she is claiming sexual harassment), and he got so much bad press that he resigned…the governor appointed a new guy and I’m not sure what the status of all that is at the moment…I do think the courts protected the records though, kept them confidential although when the fundy left office and went to take up his new post as a D.A. (the same job his successor as AG had held!), he took some of them with him…the whole sordid affair was a black eye for the state in my opinion. The new AG is supposed to be a straight arrow, though–a former judge.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Another “Million Man March” so to speak?

Guess that taught him to keep the flue closed… ours has pushed his way out the front door a couple of times … once he was two yards down in her roses just hanging out and once after an hour or two of searching our neighbor at the corner was trying to corner him in the middle of the street with her bare hands…lucky I heard the commotion and came with the arm length gloves and picked him up..

Hmmmm. Might it not also render hysterectomy a legal crap shoot?

I agree completely. There are so many things I am passionate about and I am worn out with all the crises going on right now I am afraid to open my email box most days. Just today I had this abortion thing, planned wolf hunts in three states where wolves were just de-listed a month or so ago, the gov’t has taken the Navy sonar testing to SCOTUS and they agreed to hear it, all the still fallout from FISA, bailing out banks instead of homeowners, KBR electrocuting 13 soldiers in the showers, Bush vetoed the Medicare bill, Court said Bush can name any US CITIZEN an enemy combatant and they can be imprisoned without trial, the latest idiocy from Gitmo (detainee told judge he needed some legal paper to file a motion, judge replied that he would have to file a motion to get the paper, detainee replied that even if he had the paper, the judge wouldn’t get the motion because as soon as he writes it it is presumptively classified and some commission has to review it first – and of course there isn’t a commission yet!), Bush putting all new solar projects on hold for two years to ’study the environmental impact’, the EPA announcing it wasn’t going to do any more work until Jan 20 (why can’t we fire the lot of them – it would save a lot of money?) and on and on. It makes me tired.

Heh. Ya know what George Carlin said about the American Dream…”they call it a Dream because you have to be alseep to believe it.”

Exhaling…….and smiling……………

On their list of confirmed speakers is Erick Erickson, who they describe as:

Erick Erickson, managing editor of RedState.com, the largest online community of conservative activists

I thought FreeRepublic was the biggest, or even LGF, but RedState? That place is a ghost town.

I just love their speaker line up:

Michelle Malkin,
Author and Blogger

Michael Steele,
Former Maryland
Lt. Governor

Erick Erickson,
RedState.com

Robert Novak,
Syndicated Columnist

John Fund,
The Wall Street Journal

Stephen Moore,
The Wall Street Journal

Grover Norquist,
President Americans for Tax Reform

and many more!

Are you fucking kidding… Ok here is your chance to pie them all in one place!!

Laura, do you like to play duets? I’ll play. ;)

Check out the full list, it’s even more entertaining. Though I think seeing their reaction to what Bob Barr has to say to them might just be worth the price of admission.

They will claim in their own defense that the conditions of the briefing that they got was that they *may not* talk about it with anyone! Now, who set those conditions, and whether or not they had the ability to do something else is debatable. But they *could* have said, No way Jose until we check this out with others who have security clearances. They didn’t do that.

Bob in HI

Where on the 1040 form do I file for my 5 million “child” deductions?

Could we arrange a ‘rapture’ while they’re all in one place?

i bet they are just looking for any reason to claim victimhood at the hands of those nasty liberals

ya gotta get each of them a SS# first

suitcase nuke????

And Goldwater’s son is on that list. He campaigned for Ron Paul, that should be another fun one.

Probably in the same place as all my ‘child’ deductions. Oh oh, I’m in trouble – two ectopic pregnancies – which I ‘murdered’ in order to keep from dying myself from internal bleeding.

they got jack bauer attending?

Could we arrange a seminar on ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ using the personal experience model to ‘enhance the discussion of what is and is not actual torture’?

I guess I might have to give them all names, too.

Let’s see: Suzanne, nahant, Hannibal, lokywoky, Eureka Springs…

Nah…they lucky to have that inspiration.

I’m a Golden Stater!

The dolts that follow these liars still believe they’re defending “freedom.” There’s the joke “Freedom’s” Watch group. We’ve got to wrestle control of that word from the wingnuts, since we are the true champions of Freedom, and their daddy figures are literally taking their freedoms from them, right before their eyes.

There is one Repube that really is defending freedom. Too bad he’s got a bit of a temper:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IHB2I83_N_k

I think you went through enough… my X had one… very nasty/painful and wasn’t fun from this side either

if a sperm is a person they could use that Woody Allen film for a visual ……

how cold-blooded of you

Got that! —- and happenin’ all over America tonight. Whoever doesn’t come up pregnant, please report for probation services in the A.M. People being squandered……..we can’t let that happen! (Although, I could probably tolerate another assault now and then…..I’ve been absent that full body contact for quite some time now!)

g’nite all.. off to pack some more…

Gee named after me how cute:>)

little nahant: ~o

Holy shit.. It’s as if the Supremes never restored habeas Corpus after the MCA.

I’m just waiting for Norske or someone to tell me where to show up with my torch and pitchfork. You know?

nite Suzanne

nite suz

Freedom for them you mean… the rest of us can go to hell for all they care..and they sure don’t want any of their money to help THEM poor ones… we are nothing to them…

Right. It was – I was thinking that very thing while I healed up from the massive, invasive surgery.

Good night, Ms Boxer.

Could even let Hitchens come and help out with that, he went through it first hand to find out what it was like.

I feel we’re crossing Frank Church’s “abyss of no return.”

Just give all the guys simulated menstrual cramps and they’ll be quiet forever about “enhanced interrogation.” Jeez.

There already is a little nahant

I would like to see 5,000 little lady librarians in their 60s show up at that gathering, all carrying signs that say “McCain = Bush” and see if they arrest them all…

For that matter, I would like to see them show up at the R convention in Minnesota too…

Oh! Let’s all do that and crash the friggin’ system! I’m ‘provocative’ and always wanted to claim a miscarriage just to see what the IRS would do……but I never got that chance. doctors are wimps. We need a group. Let’s group up and go for broke!

Night Suz… get some sleep!

Well, he only did that ’simulated drowning’ thing. I’m up for some electric shocks to sensitive regions of the anatomy, some of those wonderful ’stress positions’ – you know, the kind where they wrench your arms out of the sockets and stuff, kinda like that…..

*sigh* i’m going thru MAJOR instrument withdrawal right now. Duets might help. though.

I’m threatening to take up conga and fiddle….(once i can use right arm. Doc’s orders are no stress on muscles in arm at all. )

I’m sorry you had to go through that

I was thinking about White Light – White Heat – by Iggy Pop. /s

At least you picked on our one GOOD senator:>)

Yeah, did you notice there are only two lady wing-nuts? Interesting, hmmm.

I think waaterboarding would be sufficient, though from what I’ve seen, most of those jackasses are in even worse health than Hitchens, and probably wouldn’t survive the ordeal.

Suzanne, I don’t want to invite the wrath of the immigration debate, but I can steer you to the big tree under which you can purchase, on the cheap, any SS# you want or need. It’s easy, really.

nite suz!

I’d have to wear it for days. Smart guy with a looong memory and well honed sense of revenge.

That’s funny!

Although the darned Google Maps wouldn’t let me reverse-arrow back to here, I had to open a new window

There oughta be a law

we could start a group at the Obama site, they even provide the technology!

IHey y’all, I could use a little support tonight, after all the work of making a record, the damn group is breaking up.

Comes down to the usual “creative and philosophical differences,” but I’m fairly devastated. I’ve been thinking fairly bad thoughts…I’ve been trying for 15 years to make a band work. But moving forward, the differences became too great, the hostility overwhelming and I compromised as much as I was going to. I bear some of the blame, but it’s just not a tenable situation.

I’m gonna cry in a minute. I tried SO hard…

The others are all in protective custody to ensure the safety of their embryos

Thanks. I appreciate it. The whole thing was probably the fault of our illustrious government anyway – I suffer from intrauterine exposure to DES – a synthetic hormone that was banned from animal feed back in the 1930s because it cause ‘reproductive abnormalities’ in chickens and pigs. They approved it for use in humans – a drug to ‘make a normal pregnancy even more normal’ (WTF) – my unsuspecting mom took it to prevent a miscarriage (she had four before me). So I got the EP’s, a whole flock of autoimmune things, a huge ovarian tumor common in DES-exposed people (whoops, more dead persons when that was hoiked out!), and about 13 surgeries later, here I am!

I got lucky though, no cancer!

And now they’re feeding that sh*t to cattle again. And it’s still available for giving to humans as well.

Dude, you’re on “record” with a kick-ass set.
You’ll get another.

I’m really, really sorry about all that

And I hope my earlier snark did not offend you

I’ll join that one! Where do I sign up?

Of course, you do start getting all their emails. And you can’t just reply – you have to fill out their ‘form’. Oh well.

Wow, Meghan McCain is just so down to earth.

One thing the blogger could work on, however – is keeping a little cash on hand. She was no help to Heidi when the Hills hottie fetched her car from the restaurant valet and realized they wouldn’t accept plastic. Lucky for Heidi, a few paparazzi were there to cover her ass.

How the fuck does someone not know you need cash for stuff like that?

Tryin’ times..and usually the best art comes from a bunch of creative passionate individuals, not always the best recipe for long term group cohesion.. The best thing is that y’all pulled it off at all, amigo.

No, I was totally NOT offended. In the context of the snarky discussion we were having it was a perfect comment.

If I got offended by every little thing I’d have to crawl in a hole and pull the rock over my head. I have to find the enjoyment in everything I can – it’s the only way to stay sane!

*g*

Oh no! I’m sorry bud. ((ThatGuy))

And canned responses. I was so miffed that I sent 5 (okay, I was REALLY miffed) messages after his FISA vote….. and I got 5 canned responses saying that since he won Iowa he was sooooo busy. That about told me all I needed to know.

fuck. i am so sorry to hear that
(((that guy)))
*scurrying back to my boxes*

same here

Well, I still like the electric thingy – not as messy as the waterboarding and quicker.

Sorry, ThatGuy. I don’t have any answers but I do have {{{}}} hugs. Crap happens. If you’ve been around this site awhile, you will know that you really are not alone.

I don’t know, that could probably get pretty messy. Don’t people tend to lose bowel and bladder control while being electrocuted?

Think I’ll watch some Star Trek…always makes me feel a little more hopeful.

Ron just came in the room yelling about what an asshole Pelosi is. The energy spike just went way up in the house. Then I come here and you guys are talking about the same thing.

After I got the first boilerplate response with its faulty logic and invalid premises leading to unsound conclusions, I wrote them a more sharply worded response in which I demanded answers to several specific questions, and then I said do NOT send me the same canned response you sent last time, I want some real answers. Of course, they sent me a duplicate of the initial canned response. Then I realized they weren’t even reading our messages, or else they just didn’t care.

Nevertheless, McBush is not an option, you go to war with the army you have…

Yeah, I ‘edited’ all the messages I got with big, bold, red fonts and they came back rejected by his ’spam fighter’ because they had ‘big, bold fonts’ and they were addressed to ‘my friend’ which was really crazy since that’s how his email came to me! And I was replying to HIS EMAIL! HA!

hi mary

I thought Dearie was the one with the “instrument” withdrawal. Yes, a duet would help either wa I think.

Dang Neuro just use the open in a new tab by right clicking on the links…if you were a bit closer I would sit you down and give you some lessons on the puter :>)

Yes, my first post-FISA vote e-mail to BHO was in response to a fundraising e-mail they sent me. I said I won’t even think about sending you more money until you answer this and this and this…whereupon of course they sent me the boilerplate response

What’s on my mind tonight? Free speech is available for $12.95 plus shipping and handling if you’re a thrifty shopper.

How is everyone?

LOL I could sure use them *g*

I was in one of them but the mail got way to busy so I un-joined the group to tell Obama not to vote yes on FISA… haven’t been back to his web site since… bad move on his part…

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4th Amendment Hit Squad from http://www.bluetidalwave.com/2…..-list.html

On Wednesday July 9, 2008 our U.S. Constitution, specifically the 4th amendment was officially torched by the U.S. government. The Democratic leadership in control of the 110th Congress lighted the definitive match to burn up every citizen’s civil liberties while a giddy unpopular President George Bush and his highly voter despised rubber stamp Republican caucus held the gas can in bravado glee.

The world would be a better place if Bush was as an effective leader of the globe as he is at whipping the Congressional Democrats in legislative battles.

Twenty One Senate Democrats voted to give final approval today to broadening the government’s spy powers and providing legal immunity for the phone companies that took part in the illegal Bush wiretapping program.

Now see ya got me going again…

I wrote them a letter on their “form” after that and said that I had just signed up for a monthly contribution to the ACLU to overturn the stupid FISA law so since I did that I could not afford to give him any money. I wonder how many letters they have received like that? Now that would be a piece of info I would REALLY like to have.

Notice how shipping and handling is often equal to, or much more than the cost of product these days? /semi s

Right. But I told them to listen to the sound of my pocketbook snapping shut. I kept the five-in-a-row stupid responses so I can show them to my grandkids someday. (Should we all still be living in America….and I will be encouraging my grandkids to be speaking Chinese.) [But my bank stocks went up today……shit, I don’t know where we are all going to end up. I just try to keep my sense of humor.]

Hi Neuro.

Ok. Why the fuck does Bush want to stop the use of the pill for birth control? Isn’t he leaving office soon? Is he pandering to the six or seven people left on the planet that believe that birth control is abortion and will also give money for his liberry?

Actually though, nahant, the lessons I could really use–from somebody–would be in how to communicate with a presidential campaign in a manner that does not treat you like a lemming

but then I’m just an angry blog commenter eating cheetos in my parents’ basement–wearing my pajamas

I watched “The Drumhead” on DVD a couple of nigths ago. Kinda spooky, given the circumstances.

Hey, Mary! How’s the job going?

Mary, didn’t get to congratulate you last night. Great cheering news! Who evah got a 50 percent raise second day on the job!!!

personally, I am so pleased that he is trying so hard to protect the lives of my innocent sperm

It kind of goes along with his little thingy at the G8. As he was leaving the main meeting, he – with his usual stupid smirk on his face – waved good-bye and said to the assembled leaders of the other 7 nations “good bye from the biggest polluter on the planet” and then walked out the door.

WTF????

I suppose when one large time costs less than $20, that will inevitably be true.

ONE WORD EGO…. happens all the time been there done that always sucks… finally gave up on the band thing… but do pick up my bass now and then… leave the music to my sweetie she sings soprano, plays oboe and teaches music to kids… I gotta give her credit she is making us a living with her music…

Great! I am so happy that I feel a little manic. I haven’t worked in flash in a long time and I am having fun with it. I am starting to make personal animations. I haven’t had a surge of creativity like this in a couple of years.

You better not wack off or you could kill thousands.

Hey TGuy, be glad for the opportunity to move on. Learn what you can from that experience, and start looking for new bandmates. I offer this from the perspective of an amateur musician who has played in half a dozen bands, including one that went on (without me) to become nationally well-known within its genre (bluegrass).

But it is best to cultivate an alternative profession. As the Country Gazette album advised, “Don’t Give Up your Day Job!” I have just a few of my pix up on Facebook. My present band is inactive for lack of a banjo player. But I continue to play “for enjoyment.”

Music can be a very difficult profession. You have to love it more than doing anything else. That’s the only way to survive experiences like what you’re going through and remain a “professional musician”!

I took the easy way out, and decided on another career.

Aloha,
Bob in HI

I wonder if it counts if you put them in a baggy in the freezer?

Without ego, though, no one would try to create in the first place. Bit of an irony, but I can’t imagine people going through all the work and travail to do something they really believe in if they didn’t have an ego.

Have you lost your mind? You cannot put babies in the freezer. Geez.

I’m so happy for you……carry on and have fun and create and enjoy. Nice!

Unless you run a sperm, I mean, baby bank.

Well, yes you can! Then Georgie Porgie comes along and calls them ’snowflake babies’ and they thaw them out and presto!

That’s the trouble with bands, there’s always two or more other people you have to be able to work with. And musicians are a difficult bunch.

Or —– soul?

While I was on that list I read many responses just like that and many who had made calls demanding their donations back… Mr Obama lost a lot of little people that day…:

Mary…… thanks, you make me laugh out loud…..in the dark of night….in my own house. Grand!

I got that problem alleviated after my youngest daughter was born…. now they all stay @ home… no matter what I do /s

ruined many a good band!!

And, Bob in HI, got a topic you want to esplore?

or go blind.

The thing that cracks me up about it is that the FCP and all the talking heads cannot seem to make a connection between the netroots being unhappy with the FISA thing and Obama’s precipitous drop both in poll numbers and in donations this month.

Gee whiz – ya think?

Preview is my fiend! eXplore?

not yet at least!! besides I have enough kids 6 more than enough… it is their turn to have all the fun… we just keep practicing…

Du-oh

I know mine dropped–to zero.

Although as someone mentioned above, I still contribute to the ACLU and other worthy organizations

I may give BHO some money before November but I am in no hurry

I really feel like he owes us a better explanation–we weren’t born yesterday

Q: Did you hear that Viagra now comes in a nasal spray?

And I hope BHO has somebody on his staff–an intern, a volunteer even–who is reading blogs like this and is telling the campaign what they are hearing

A: It’s for Dickheads.

Did you hear that Mr Cheney???

Is that a trick question?

Well, as if the vote wasn’t bad enough, his ‘explanation’ sounded like a rehash of a bunch of Rethug talking points. I was absolutely insulted by it. Even the lovely folks at Comedy Central had figured that mess out better than he did and he’s supposed to be the constitutional lawyer…

never mind

That’s it for me

good night, all

and since Norske is not here, PASS THE AMMO…

There has to be a joke in there somewhere. Viagra Nasal Spray-contact your doctor if you tell a lie.

I’m sure it did, but it’s probably what formed them in the first place.

In my profession, they used to refer to “egoless programming” as an ideal. Anyone who’s been in this business for more than a few months realizes just how optimistic that phrase is. The music industry isn’t the only one that’s cursed with prima donas. But the sad truth is that if programmers didn’t have egos, they wouldn’t care all that much about what they’re doing. Pride in work, and being able to think you’re good at what you do are both powerful motivators.

The trick, of course, is to keep the ego in check.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Nite neuro

Could I spritz a guy on a bus and find bliss…..or at least a million-man convocation?

Lock and load, neuro..

I’m off to the land of slumber myself..

Good night fabulous firedogs

Nite ES

Boy, I’d be careful with that – do a test run to see how much ‘drift’ and ‘overspray’ before I tried that on a bus…

nite eureka

Obama’s article at HuffPo was the “upraised” in “upraised middle finger”.

Let’s just say I used to just ignore the Obama spam I receive, but now I sometimes answer it. Sooner or later, they’ll get me off the list.

The trick, of course, is to keep the ego in check.

Hit right on the nail… same in any profession… you have to realize that you may be good but there is always someone better… once you learn that you can really excel at what you do… there is always room to better your skills no matter what you do..

I really feel like he owes us a better explanation–we weren’t born yesterday

Better silence than bs or a lie. No one dares tell the truth.

You are asking for it:>)

Goodnight neuro and ES.

Nice, nahant. True all over the place…… yep.

Night Neuro, Es and other good pups with their sleepy eyes…. sleep well and dream the dreams of the young and innocent…

I agree – I would be happier with silence that the load of crap he tried to foist off on us.

For me, recalling that Richard Feynman, the Nobel-winning physicist, used to say that he never tired of asking “stupid” questions. You’re never too smart to learn something new, and you’re seldom so smart that any other random person can’t tell you something you don’t know.

Speaking of lack of perfection: “questions is enough reminder.”

Oh, the music is a hobby, I have a day job.

IT’s just that I’ve been trying for so long to do something that rises above the ordinary. There is much resistance to that.

I’ll get over it. It just hurts tonight.

{{{{{hugs}}}}}

the FCP and all the talking heads cannot seem to make a connection between the netroots being unhappy with the FISA thing and Obama’s precipitous drop both in poll numbers and in donations this month.

Somehow it just doesn’t fit their narrative. “All of Obama’s problems are that he is too identified with the left and having difficulty making headway with the center.”

There are no voters in the center. There are the hard core rightists, and then there is the bulk of the population way to the left of the center of Congress. The center of the beltway crowd is right-wing fringe.

I have always taken that attitude to heart… I have learned much that way… and you can teach others just by how you approach them with your expertise…. I never try and say I know something I don’t I just say I will find out when I don’t know… has always kept my customers happy… but you do have to find out and let them know… follow up follow up never lost a customer that was my fault..

Dam 1/2 past a pumpkin… night pups time to join my sweetie in sleep… nighty nite

nite nahant

Goodnight Nahant. There’s one thing I know that you don’t – I’m getting tired, too.

Goodnight, all.

Thanks for asking. I am interested in this “hearing” that Pelosi is allowing the HJC to have relating to abuses of Presidential power. Will the HJC be able to convene an *impeachment* hearing, thereby accessing special investigative powers, or will it just be a show piece, with an hour for speeches but no investigation?

If this topic has been covered earlier, please forgive me for not having read all the messages, and point me to which comments cover this information.

Aloha,
Bob in HI

nite all, I’m out too.

Yes exactly. The ‘consultants’ keep telling candidates (both sides) to move toward the center for the GE – and there is no point in doing it.

Of course, the FCP keeps pontificating about the ‘undecideds’ as if anyone could really figure out a way to court them. They are the ones who get inside the polling booth and go eenie meenie miney moe as a way to decide who to vote for – or whover is first on the list.

This ‘run to the center’ strategy is a big reason IMHO why both Gore and Kerry ‘lost’ the election. They went away from their base and getting out the vote and started trying to be something neither one of them actually was. When you do that – you become ‘unreliable’. Bush won because even though most voters disagreed with his position – they felt that he at least HAD a position.

Obama should just be himself – and that is unfortunately not a person as progressive as his speeches led us to believe – but he should still be himself instead of trying to remake himself as McCain-lite.

Well, so far it has been a total farce. Someone – Christy I think had a thread up earlier on the goings-on today and it consisted mainly of the Rethugs disrupting everything for about 3 hours before they actually got to some actual testimony – and then got interrupted again.

Oh well.

Dennis has presented another Article of Impeachment. Under the rules he used this time – he is able to get a bit farther down the process this time hopefully before they stall him out. Maybe he’ll get a few more idiots reps to help him out this time.

Well, sleepy-eyes are getting me too. G’nite

Bob and loky. Interesting kos diary/comments on the subject.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..664/552594

*poof*

nite cujo, sunny, loky
bailing

Bay Area Firepups, you have two chances left to see Ray and the Detonators live.

THe Pittsburg, CA, Seafood festival in the East bay. GREAT food, and we open the show, 10:20 a.m. We can go to lunch at the New Mecca Cafe.

The Walnut Festival, Heather Farms Park, Walnut Creek, Sun, sept 21. 330 p.m. to 430 p.m. We’re going to the Mecca after that, too.

If you’re up for it, let me know.

Attaturk upstairs, pups!
Wank more into the breach, my friends…

hahahahahahaha! chalk another one up for MaryMc

late to the party (EP’d) but what the heck, eh?

Dr. Geppetto, I have this problem.

Yes, my boy, we call it ‘a Woody’.