Comments on: How not to win hearts & minds

By: libbyliberal

libbyliberal — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:38:23 +0000

Will pray your son will be safe. Thanks for sharing as you did, leinie.

By: libbyliberal

libbyliberal — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:35:40 +0000

From Viet Nam days, “We had to bomb the village in order to save it.”

In Iraq I heard the soldiers are not integrated with civilians enough. So there is paranoia of course when they have to venture forth. Fear and trauma and weaponry and demonization on both sides. Ups the potential for violence. Both sides can’t coexist and have their humanness and vulnerability seen, their mutual “victimhoods”.

I remember being appalled at MSM and people’s fascination and satisfaction with the first Gulf war. The fast, “clean” one where not one MSM newsman seemed to report ANY casualties on the Iraq side. Talk about a failure of journalism and humanism and …. patriarchal leadership. And all those exciting stud missiles flashing in the night. Made great tv. Reality just a video game. Forget about the “mushroom” casualties.

By: libbyliberal

libbyliberal — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:20:07 +0000

He’s not supporting impeachment call now, though. Is that right?

By: rdwdkw

rdwdkw — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:04:01 +0000

Bless everyone that knows or can understand this kind of tragedy. There are 5 boys, ages 2 to 17. This was a family that had nothing, but the wealth of parents that loved them. In lieu of flowers memorials can be made to Longview State Bank c/o Orndorff Boys. You should all know his name was Bill Orndorff and his wife’s name was Julie. Again let me say this, if there is any way anyone can help, please for God’s sake do whatever you can. The people here at FDL are the finest anywhere, I thank everyone.

By: SouthernDragon

SouthernDragon — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:37:33 +0000

Probably EPU’d, but we need a little more contact info.

By: rdwdkw

rdwdkw — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:03:15 +0000

Thank you sir. This couple leaves five children ages 2 to 17 behind with nothing to go forward on, the pain, if you could only see these faces of these kids is, simply overwhelming. If anyone out there could find it in your heart to help these kids, please, please contact the church in Broadlands, Illinois. Thank you very much.

By: egregious

egregious — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:33:56 +0000

(((((rdwdkw))))) My heart goes out to you in your loss. How horrible.

By: rdwdkw

rdwdkw — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:29:43 +0000

Good morning Attaturk. A very sad day for me because two close friends were killed over the weekend by a drunk driver, and now this. I know I’ll never forget the sadness this always causes and I am sure the survivors never will. And those to blame, will not be forgotten either.

By: Badwater

Badwater — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:20:38 +0000

There will be no prosecutions because there will be many pardons.

By: leinie

leinie — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:09:08 +0000

Greg,

Thank you. I have to believe he’ll be ok, but it’s terrifying, and I’m just now living it. There are families out there who have been living this nightmare for years, over and over again.

Comments like yours, and the understanding of the people here that these aren’t toy soldiers, but real, will help me through this.