WT!!

Watertiger!

fork- there go the cookies for late nite snacks

Hi ho!

Or HoHos.

Or something cookie-related.

Are we going to eventually find out that McCain is actually a moldy pfefferneuse or a stale powdered doughnut?

Well, whatever that means, I’m sure that the answer is, umm, ummm – Yes.

wasn’t there something about twinkies lasting forever due to all the preservatives? maybe mcsame is a twinkie

Aloha, Watertiger!

Hi, Watertiger! Would chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream make the cut?

Evening all. Truly on target WT. Our media are useless putzes who continue the debasement of our national discourse. Perhaps this quote from Bob Somerby summarizes the current situation best.
“Things have deteriorated to the point where staffers at People are mystified by the inanity of the political press corps.“-Bob Somerby

The Old One-Two Punch of Phoenix Woman and watertiger! The bad boys better watch out cuz are goin’ git their butts kicked double hard!!!

wasn’t there something about twinkies lasting forever due to all the preservatives?

Maybe I could add Twinkies to my Cheez-Whiz only diet. I figure with all of those preservatives – I’ll never die.

A stale, moldy Twinkie that even the rats and cockroaches won’t touch.

i vote for vanilla puddin laced with pal Rummys NUTRASWEET…………gag

I noted this a.m. that this country has been dumbed down so far that we have to debate whether this week’s New Yorker cover is satire.

hi suz………………but his teeth reek greenjello

The Press being punk’d for inanity by People…wow.

That or a Wonder Bread and mayo sandwich.

yes with white pepper seasoning…”g”

Actually they don’t even get moldy. They develop a slight crust on the outside but that’s about it.

Okay, here’s where John McLaughlin and I part ways. It’s obvious to anyone who’s followed Obama’s career trajectory that he’s more of a Chewy Chips Ahoy than an Oreo, what with his white mother and black father and . . . malleable . . . stance on FISA.

Spew milk!

and BHO is still profiteroles to me…”G”

And as the Sadlynaughts have illustrated this evening, even when they know the wingnuts still don’t get it.

yes he aint perfect but quite tasty,with room for improvement…lots of whipped cream

It’s not. Satire is aimed at the thing/person it is satirizing – and they editor ‘claims’ it is the low-info super-scaredy-cat types and the fear-mongers and smear artist. So why are the Obama’s in the picture? They are the victims – not the targets. This is NOT satire.

Nah, that is much too spicy for such a bland flavor.

The Press being punk’d for inanity by People…wow.

Oh my – *that* could set off a bidding war for the first pictures of Angelina’s twins.

That’ll learn ‘em.

yes its my new fave…quite sublime

Well stated, WT

oh lawwwwwwwdy prepare us for McSame could be Lurking on the INTERTUBES tonite

Hey you got to fill up air time with something or you will have to run stories on how fucked up things are in Iraq and Afghanistan, how badly the economy sucks and how the average American is getting shafted while our tax dollars go to bail out a bunch of greedy and stupid rich folks.

Even my own neocon said, “What in the hell were they thinking?!”

word doc

These days, given Obama’s soft, fluffy position on FISA, I’m thinking Mallomar.

oh jeeeeeeeeeeeez you have a neocon………..condolences,but DONT take Cipro,hurts your knees

still tasty ,if not memorable

I could make a joke about race here, but, like John McCain, I’d better not.

… that would be the perfect venue for him to one day reveal the jest that was on the tip of his tongue when he was asked if it was more difficult to battle Barack Obama for the presidency “because of the sensitivities of race.”

McCain, the article reported, “responded wryly: ‘I’d like to make a joke, but I can’t.’ “

Oh, c’mon — you old c&nt-marryer! David Remnick, Barry Blitt and John McLaughlin have! Why not share yours with the class? It’s all the rage!

Hi yourself, you ho.

These days, anyone who wishes to stereotype while not appearing to have a prejudice can throw in some “demographics.” While census data and careful demographic studies and polls can provide valid, important data when rigorous standards are observed, a quickie poll can be found, or created to custom specifications, that will support nearly any conclusion or stereotype.

Thanks for your concern. We manage. Prickly sometimes. Twin brother. Mostly I call him “my bother.”

Hadn’t quite thought of it that way before. Have to say that personally I can’t give it away.

But it is racism! Gee, aren’t they sophisticated at The New Yorker! Can’t do satire right, and are racist liberals too boot. How droll.

My neocon thought what many others thought: why is Angela Davis on the cover?

mines worse he adores shortride…no Shiiite

Man, I go away to take a phone call, and THAT’s what I come back to? ;-)

hahahaha707

A WorldNetDaily.com poll asked the website’s readers to “[s]ound off on the New Yorker’s cover with turban-wearing Obama, gun toting wife,” but while the New Yorker said in a press release that the cover “satirizes the use of scare tactics and misinformation in the Presidential election to derail Barack Obama’s campaign,” for a majority of respondents to WND’s poll, the cover apparently provided support for their false perceptions of Obama’s religion and patriotism: A majority of respondents selected the option stating that “[t]he image isn’t too far from the dangerous truth about the Obama family.”

Courtesy Media Matters.

or who was the Black female cop with thefro in the 70s? PamGreer?

I always puzzled at the scene in The Wizard of Oz when the Cowardly Lion dons one of the guard’s uniforms and breaks into the Wicked Witch’s castle. I couldn’t figure out why the guards were all chanting “O-ree-o, O-ro.”

But it made me hungry.

but there will not be any accountability nor will this be the only one

the damage is done and the new yorker’s reputation is toast but they don’t care

priceless,France is bekoning like for Brangelina,course mebbe my greenbax will be stuck at the bank

Go check out the link I posted above to Sadly, No! It is a truly depressing spectacle.

If they were looking to get some of the Limbaugh crowd on their subscriber list, it’s done.

sunny France does sound good

My mom thought that hairdo looked like Angela Davis also – and she’s not a neo-con. Michelle has never worn her hair that way that I have ever seen. I could be wrong…

The George Bush version: “Oh, we owe nnnnooo one…except China and Japan and Dubai, and . . “

OK Pups you can Digg it!!

WARNING: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, WITH CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President, 69 members of the Senate and 293 members of the House of Representatives.

France is good!

It was deliberately referencing Angela Davis and black radicals of the 1960s and 1970s.

Pammy

http://i230.photobucket.com/al…..Grier5.jpg

Well I am glad they did it. I don’t know if it could be done in a way i would have ever considered funny but it keeps the conversation going and that is a good thing. Because it’s going to get much worse and this helps dilute the racial issue overall this year, imo.

dugg - thanks to nahant for opening the digg

Dugg!
Thanks nahant

Another edition of “it’s funny because it’s true!”

of course the dollar wont stretch much these days…Italy has gone fascist once again..sad that

McSame is definitely a Keebler Elf…or would that be a Keating Elf?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/s…..548877009/

McKeebler.

My duty fulfilled!!

Mashed potato.

I remember…

more i think about it he reminds me of the 2 month old cottage cheese i forgot to throw out McNasty

So bad, last visit a beer was 12 euros.

Aha! That’s the problem. McCrazy has been snorting instant mashed potatoes and they have gummed up his neural circuitry.

Uh, silly…it’s p-o-t-a-t-o-E. Sheesh.

en France? omg!

In college my friend Goni had the world’s largest afro. It must have been about 3 feet across. Looked even bigger because he was so small.

Hey WT. Great post!
Howdy y’all. Your pain-free wishes are still working! Or maybe it was the shots. Or the sedation. Anyhows …. doing well.

Just got off the phone with SnarKassandra, who is enjoying Cornell and now has web access but lots of college level reading. Still time to blog though.

Now we’re talkin. Jerry Brown might be running for Guv again! I know he’s “unique,” but I think he’s a great leader and visionary. Oh yeah.

good on ya….painfree vibes till flowin

I couyld vote for Jerry…He IS a straight shooter!

He’d be good (again), and he’s nobody’s hack.

In Paris, of course. In other cities away from Paris, not so much. Food still wonderful, but be careful where to dine.

the pukes must NOT win again…period

Im hoping Obama prevails (mandate would be nice)and i wont have to uproot

That’s hilarious! My father said that he wouldn’t let me go to college when the Black Panthers shut down our campus, — heh, I went anyway.

Moon of Alabama summed it up beautifully on the Obama satire…

Why is the New Yorker seen as a ‘liberal’ magazine at all? The only readable stuff I ever find in it are the Hersh pieces. Even those are often dubious as Hersh seldom lets one in on his sources and their special interests in talking with him. He made his name with sound stories on My Lai, Abu Ghraib and recently with reporting on a new executive order for silent attacks on Iran. But all of these stories were reported elsewhere before he even got near to them. He added interesting details though.

Other than Hersh the New Yorker peddles warmongerers like George Packer and neo-liberal pseudo economist stuff by James Surowiecki. The rest is on U.S. scales middle of the road culture writing which is essentially rightwing nonsense when measured in international benchmarks.

So again: Why are ‘progressives’ astonished about such an attack cover by the New Yorker?

CNN spending a whole segment on the burning moral question: “Is it moral for movie stars to accept money for pictures of their fucking babies…?”

Hope they come up with a definitive answer to that one!

Ive done Paris so many times its lost its panache to me…cept for the Grande Palais

I have always found good inexpensive food in Paris—small cafes in non tourist neighborhoods are not expensive at all.

I used to have those visions too, but then I stopped taking drugs.

Grand Palais …oy

Mr. CE and I have talked seriously about moving to France. Well, that’s not going to happen as much as we would like. We lived there in the late 70’s when Mr. CE had a Fulbright, but it costs too much now. Vacation and business, yes. Cleveland for the rest of our lives, yes as well. And that’s OK.

Hey, it beats having to do real in-depth analysis of why Afghanistan is so totally fucked up right now (which would involve admitting that going into Iraq wasn’t really such a good idea).

The only other story that the news wants to talk about is the stupid Obama cover on the New Yorker…BORING!

Yeh, Paris has lost its panache for me, too. :”_+)

pourquois?

They handle those stories by sayin “The goopers say x—the dems say NOT x—there is a real donnybrook on this issue”!

Oh Sadlyyes,
Never for me, just never. We adore Paris.

we must NOT have any more neocon/puke presidents…..like the nazis NEVER AGAIN,NEVER AGAIN

cause you are in Love i expect,it is a city for couples

Jesse Ventura is NOT in favor of the New Yorker cover–how interesting!

yadda yadda yadda,and millions are paid out

It is, I’m afraid. You are correct.

Well, G.Gordon Liddy thinks ‘The New Yorker finally got it right‘ so I guess that’s something.

Yep, a no commentary on his NYT Op-Ed… “My Plan For Iraq…” 8-(

Gene Kelly Leslie Caron …George Greshwin…….wow

Well, that’s interesting! What a thug.

No habla frances.

Which is a testament to two things.
1) The New Yorker fucked it up royally.
2) The wingnuts are dumber than a box of rocks.

What’s good for GM is good for the country??

Big restructuring coming Tuesday, starting with an employee announcement at 8.30am and press at 9, per calculatedrisk

a Gershwin tune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

What do we do about John McLaughlin’s racist comment? Should we e-mail or what?

fuck

it aint my strong suit

I haven’t watched CNN for a long time- but apparently americans are much more interested in what movie stars do with their genitals than in whether or not we are losing a fuckin war.

Nationalize the lot of them, sack the board and top execs (no bonuses, golden parachutes, or nothing), and pay stockholders pennies on the dollar.

Especially the class war.

You are my star, DrDick.

Looks like Ventura isn’t running for Senate this time, per RollCall

Um, yes. I haven’t watched CNN for years. What a mess.

Jesse…………………go away…ok?

I’m sure those ‘pennies on the dollar’ still amounts to a pretty penny…! ;-)

NYTimes, too. That’s a good thing – no votes taken away from Al.

And McCain couldn’t have wished for more.

Nice to have one small ray of sunshine on an otherwise totally fucked up day. I go fishing early this morning and come back to a huge stinking pile of bat guano.

Jesse says that he won’t run unless God tells him to- but he says that God has never spoken to him previously.

Why is Franken so far behind that asshole coleman? Anyone know?

My subscription ran out in November last year. I’ve loved the NYkr for years, but often need a year off to breathe. Especially since 2001.

And where did you find this gift?

The most recent Rasmussen had Franken in a slight lead of 2% points.

-G

Some kind of money scandal- about not paying taxes or something?

But how was the fishing?!

he was crowing on Larry King tonite how he could beat Franken.nother major rectum

I can’t imagine but I would rather have Al deliver my baby. :)

Actually, the day wasn’t all bad. Fishing went well. Caught a 22 inch brown trout right off and then some I could keep. Had a nice fresh trout dinner tonight with orzo and a salad.

On the Toobz.

His taxes are paid, but his entertainment lawyer payed some of them in the wrong states.
It’s not a thing except in Coleman’s mind. And campaign.

Floured and pan browned…? Yummm…! ;-)

12:20 past my bed time…..night kind hearts and coronets

Aloha, sadly!

Dr D, when are you cooking fish for us?

Noght sadlyyes

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Minnesota voters shows Democrat Al Franken attracting 44% of the vote and incumbent Republican Norm Coleman earning 42%. A month ago, it was Coleman 48% and Franken 45%.

According to this poll Franken has been gaining. Jesse is misinformed.

Actually baked Cuban style. Had pan fried last time. when you eat as much trout as I do in the summer you have to vary it up or it gets old.

Night sadlyyeas

Hi Tex!
Ready for NN? Do you have guests?

Well, first I have to catch a whole mess of fish. With a 3 a day limit that may take a while.

trout is my favorite, cooked any way at all.
What is Cuban style, please?

Supposedly BO will be on Larry King tomorrow night.

I’m already sick of both candidates- won’t waste any more time listening to either of em.

This is the recipe I used. Worked really well with the trout, though I had to cut down the quantities of ingredients.

He’s also announced that he will talk to Palestinian leaders while in the ME. That ought to send Lieberman into a snit fit.

Heh, I agree with ya, but, trout is a rarity here in the Isles…! ;-)

That sounds wonderful – think I’ll have to try it. Thanks

Well he is a damn terrorist of course he’s going to talk to them. /s

A couple of weeks ago I caught a bass at on of the local lakes (they were introduced into some lakes in the area some time ago) and it was a rare and special treat.

Rolled in a leaf and smoked?

-G

Interesting the Miltom Friedman Chicago Boys are asking for a federal bailout all around GM devalued 75% this year near BK and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ($6 trillion). So the government is buying the private sector? We bailout the Bushco corporate cronies for worthless stock. Bernanke and Pauson such geniuses.

707 !!

Especially considering Coleman has to greenscreen his own wife into his own ads to make them look ‘family values’-ish. Apparently, they lead separate lives — separate enough not to be able to get them in the same room together to film a political ad!

Actually when I get a bunch of trout I usually smoke some. It is really good, much like smoked salmon.

“Barack’s gotta get his orders for the fall campaign.”
Lieberman will say that, too.

Dugg

I have been feeling Adam Smith’s invisible hand probing my colon for the last year.

Must be Paulson’s hands on my shoulders.

-G

Did I start all this by giving The Lurking Mod that semi-sweet chocolate chip cookie the other night?

I currently have a 10 yr old house guest who goes by Lollipop, but no one has made reservations for TH F or S nights.

I’m fading fast here. Take care and enjoy the snark.

sleep well dr d

Keep them coming.

hate to repeat myself, but it’s now sort of on topic, at leaast margarinely:

…we can just get used to calling him ole Two-Face McCain.

I hear McLaughlin called the slippery b*stard an Oleo.

Heh, I can’t believe this is a real Norm Coleman Ad…? WTF was he on…? ;-)

Sorry, that comment was for Teddy, not you, Suz…! D’oh…!

Lurk, if you’ve got an Aldi nearby, check out their semi-sweet chocolate bar. Austrian maybe, BIG bar for about $1.50 ($1 until a few mos ago).

More than you can eat in one sitting – great stuff!

You’ll share with Suzanne, yes??

Aloha, Dr. D!

I got the satire in the Obamas cover of The New Yorker; perhaps most readers who have seen it got the satire also. And it may be that there is way too much worrying about damage to the reputations of the Obamas. But I’ll still knock the cover, for it contains caricatures the possible implications of which the creator and publisher seem not to have considered.

Caricature as found in cartoons, and sometimes elsewhere such as in posters or in magazine covers, commonly exaggerates physical traits and styles of dress. When a physical trait or a style of dress exaggerated by the artist are among those widely associated with race or ethnicity in the minds of readers, the artist is on sensitive ground. In the cover of The New Yorker, check out the lips and nose of Barack Obama—and is he lightened in pigmentation, as if to emphasize “mixed-race” parentage as a concern of some who are undecided about or against his candidacy? Check out Michelle Obama’s hair in the cover; an afro though it is, it sure isn’t straight (true, an afro never is), is it, and some would describe it with a certain “n-word” ending in py.

The Obamas cover of The New Yorker is not racist or otherwise bigoted, but the artist uses caricature irresponsibly. The effects of his caricatures are impossible to measure; I hope that they are insignificant.

(Pssst Neuro, The Lurking Mod is rumored to like pecans and chocolate.;)

Have a great time, and if you can, keep us updated. We wish we could be there. So Snarkasandra is in NYC? Heh, my daughter is there too.

Why are Barney Franks and Chris Dodd saying that Freddie and Fannie are still solvent…?

What there was safire on the cover of the New Yorker?

Suzanne, as far as I know, prefers walnuts.
I am the semi-sweet and dark-roasted pecan type.

But since I am short here, I will take all you can spare.

I noticed over at watertiger’s that Big Hank has grown out his hair, losing the hot baldheadedness. I guess he got tired of Junja’s headrubs.

cashews

absolutely no walnuts

It was a margarine call.

Correction to second paragraph:

…. When a physical trait or a style of dress exaggerated by the artist are is among those widely associated with race or ethnicity in the minds of readers ….

and what was wrong with these?????
http://firedoglake.com/2008/07…..nt-1541799

By looking too closely, you are not seeing the forest at all.
This will be seen by everyone, everywhere. Newsstands, airports, Faux news will feature it endlessly, Sunday mornings will be full of it.
Despicable.

here ya go

Almonds, Suz

Noted.

cashews Now ya talking I love e’m

Well said ES!

I grew up with the New Yorker and eagerly await each issue. I am honestly surprised at all the fuss. Have grown a little weary with the stuff Jeffrey Toobin regularly contributes but only because I’m spoiled by the quality of his predecessors. Just hope our national sense of humor improves when Dick & Bushleague & their criminal cartel slink away to their respective rat nests.

g’nite pups

I can’t answer this question: Will the cover change any minds for the worse? I truly don’t know, and I won’t pretend that I do.

perhaps you would like a little variety:

Chocolate cookie with semi-sweet chocolate chips and pecans

nite suzanne

night Suzanne. Sleep well.

They are afraid of headlines like this:

IndyMac Blames Senator’s Comments for Withdrawals (Update3)

July 8 (Bloomberg) — IndyMac Bancorp Inc., the U.S. mortgage company that stopped most of its lending as losses mounted and capital deteriorated, blamed Senator Charles Schumer for “elevated levels of deposit withdrawals.”

Schumer’s comments last month about the lender’s reliance on deposits purchased from third parties are causing customers to pull their money and making it harder to raise funds, the company said in a regulatory filing today. Schumer responded calling IndyMac a “junior version” of Countrywide Financial Corp. and said bad lending practices date back several years.

IndyMac, based in Pasadena, California, said yesterday that it’s firing half its employees and is working with regulators on a new business plan after failing to raise capital. The demise of IndyMac, the second-largest independent U.S. mortgage lender last year behind Countrywide, would be the biggest since the bankruptcy of American Home Mortgage Investment Corp. in August.

nite suz.

I still have faith that it’ll be jail cells not rat nests… But, I’ve always been labeled an optimist…! ;-)

Night Suz…

Aw, so soon, Ma Cheri? Aloha!

Why go abroad for orders when he has the telcos here at home?

Wha..? I guess they have to blame somebody!

Sleep well, suz!

…long overdue for their permanent “blankie and cookies” break.

‘Nutter Butter and a nap for these knuckleheads.

ES upstairs

That ws my first thought, and I’m not a neocon at all.

If they’re going to do bad satire on their covers, I met a suggestion that they have for the next cover McCain astride a missile (like Dr Strangelove). I’m suggesting that he also be waving a cane, one of the old-fashioned ones with the crook handle.

I have subscribed to The New Yorker for years and have always loved it. Since I started reading blogs *ahem* I haven’t found as much time to read it, but have usually managed to see some of every issue. I have always felt comfortable with their politics.

No more. That Obama cover is an outrage. Bad, bad idea. You can’t take those images back; they are out there. What in the world were they thinking?

I am cancelling my subscription and telling them why. I can’t just brush it off as satire that goes over the heads of right wingers. I think it will cause real damage.

The McCain campaign A-4 fighter, plunging into the elephant pen at the National Zoo, trailing smoke and RGJoe holding on for dear life to the tail fin, while Cindy serves drinks from the second seat.

Satire requires the subject be present. This wasn’t satire, it was racism.

And don’t tell me liberals can’t be racists; I’ve met too many.

How about with his mistress on his lap, and Cindy in back passed out w/ empty pill bottle.

Lovely.

Oreo references were startling from McLaughlin.

You have impressive cookie references. (I went for those ridiculous pink sugar wafers. But my mother did buy those pfefferneuse and could even pronounce them. … Scandavian, I assume …. ginger flavored were they? Anise?)

Joining late.. not sure this was mentioned … Digby on 7/14/08 has an interesting perspective on Michelle’s portrayal in New Yorker cartoon, the Angela Davis look ….

I’ve been wondering since 9/11 when the right would get around to conflating the Muslim terrorists with “black Muslims” and I think it may have finally happened in the couple of Barack and Michelle Obama. It would seem odd that the right wingers would smear him as being muslim. He’s black, not arab, and it doesn’t fit the stereotype. But it does fit the stereotype of the Farrakhan type of militant black muslims and that’s what they’re getting at with this. The image of the dangerous black radical is the purpose of the muslim smear, not the terrorist association. It’s good old, All American racism.

and then later she concludes

This whisper campaign is just a message to racists that they can safely use the muslim/militant tag to explain why they can’t vote for a black man. The New Yorker cover snidely laughs at these silly rubes who believe such silly things, but it misses the point entirely. Those rubes know exactly what they are doing. I’m afraid the joke’s on us.

But, see — that’s all fact-based. Which would make it the opposite of the current cover. Weird, but it’s hard to come up with an actual analog, since there aren’t scurrilous and patently untrue rumors about McCain this year. I suppose The New Yorker would have to go back to South Carolina in 2000, and have a crazy POW with his black illegitimate child.

But pills and a mistress? Too true.

yep
fucking conundrum

I really appreciate your warning message and will share it with my emailees. Thanks. I think red italics might work at the top. Maybe you could develop a line of stationery? Would work for me. Keep my and their consciousness raised.

Senators and House members cannot be impeached, though. They can only be expelled.

On that note, goodnite all!

Was wondering about that. Thanks.

I got your Obama baked goods right here.

As the philosopher Seinfeld remarked, “Look to the cookie, my friend!”