Comments on: Obama? Oh wait… http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:14:04 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: cleanth http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540943 cleanth Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:30:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540943 <p>‘Spreading joy and sunshine again.’–sez Twain against A-Citizen.</p> <p>Wasn’t the last time we heard this meme with Reagan’s peurile ‘morning in America’ crap? I suppose that among some FDL readers, attacking A-Citizen is a fun game. But A-Citizen always has a pointed take on things, agree or not with him. Better far than some fuzzy, wooly sloganneering, methinks.</p> ‘Spreading joy and sunshine again.’–sez Twain against A-Citizen.

Wasn’t the last time we heard this meme with Reagan’s peurile ‘morning in America’ crap? I suppose that among some FDL readers, attacking A-Citizen is a fun game. But A-Citizen always has a pointed take on things, agree or not with him. Better far than some fuzzy, wooly sloganneering, methinks.

]]> By: cleanth http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540938 cleanth Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:45:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540938 <p>Last time I said this same thing, I was viciously attacked here (different thread) by another member!</p> <p>I agree your take, RevDeb!</p> Last time I said this same thing, I was viciously attacked here (different thread) by another member!

I agree your take, RevDeb!

]]> By: mcartri http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540494 mcartri Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:59:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540494 <p>And the choice between the “Lesser of Two-Evils” always produces ______. Let’s have a drum roll^~^~^~^ Yes, it is “LIVE” reversed. Makes so much sense to me that I’m “Wasting” my vote on Nader. I know. Gore/Kerry/Obama will lose in 2008, as all Dems will if Nader runs. We’ll applaud Barr running of course…And don’t forget Perot costing Chimp’s Daddy an election…Ralph, go to your room!</p> And the choice between the “Lesser of Two-Evils” always produces ______. Let’s have a drum roll^~^~^~^ Yes, it is “LIVE” reversed. Makes so much sense to me that I’m “Wasting” my vote on Nader. I know. Gore/Kerry/Obama will lose in 2008, as all Dems will if Nader runs. We’ll applaud Barr running of course…And don’t forget Perot costing Chimp’s Daddy an election…Ralph, go to your room!

]]> By: MrSandman http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540474 MrSandman Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:41:55 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540474 <p>Put me down for a floor fight. Gore-Edwards sounds fabulous to me.</p> Put me down for a floor fight. Gore-Edwards sounds fabulous to me.

]]> By: Carlo http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540453 Carlo Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:27:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540453 <p>Madness.</p> Madness.

]]> By: caradoc http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540399 caradoc Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:45:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540399 <p>What will tell the tale is how Obama handles the outcry over this. His ‘had to do something’ statement is just a further insult. He really needs to do something that shows he cares about having our support.</p> What will tell the tale is how Obama handles the outcry over this. His ‘had to do something’ statement is just a further insult. He really needs to do something that shows he cares about having our support.

]]> By: Blue http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540359 Blue Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:21:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540359 <p>A floor fight in Denver is the only way this DFH will vote for the Dem come November.</p> A floor fight in Denver is the only way this DFH will vote for the Dem come November.

]]> By: PillBilly http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540276 PillBilly Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:31:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540276 <p>Refering to Obama, Jesse Jackson said he wanted to “cut his nuts off”. I agree with you Jesse, but you’re assuming that Obama actually “has a pair”.</p> Refering to Obama, Jesse Jackson said he wanted to “cut his nuts off”. I agree with you Jesse, but you’re assuming that Obama actually “has a pair”.

]]> By: cherish http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540258 cherish Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:19:39 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540258 <p><i>… they can’t continue to exist and raise gobs of money if choice ever really becomes settled. They need controversy in order to self-perpetuate.<br /></i></p> <p>Bingo.</p> … they can’t continue to exist and raise gobs of money if choice ever really becomes settled. They need controversy in order to self-perpetuate.

Bingo.

]]> By: cherish http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540252 cherish Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:17:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/13/the-middle-is-a-hole-barack/#comment-1540252 <p>So OK, likely I’m in the same boat as zillions of Americans.</p> <p>I just clearly remember discussion in print about what FISA was the first time this vote came around maybe 2 years ago, and that whenever FISA approval for wiretapping was sought <i>after the fact,</i> it was <i>always</i> granted.</p> <p>That sounds awfully like a symbolic fig leaf to me.</p> <p>Do any commenters here follow Al Giordano at The Field?</p> <p><a href="http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/the-sky-didnt-fall" rel="nofollow">http://narcosphere.narconews.c.....didnt-fall</a></p> <p>He’s had a refreshing take on FISA, backed up by his Latin American experience and the “War On Drugs” resistor news at Narconews.com. It’s been the kind of education on FISA and th 4th Amendment not to be had at the Lake, sad to say. </p> <p>I especially recommend </p> <p><a href="http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/salons-glenn-greenwald-writes-the-field" rel="nofollow">http://narcosphere.narconews.c.....-the-field</a></p> <p>for background on how the US Govt walks around FISA and the 4th Amendment saying ‘nyahnyah’ just because it can.</p> So OK, likely I’m in the same boat as zillions of Americans.

I just clearly remember discussion in print about what FISA was the first time this vote came around maybe 2 years ago, and that whenever FISA approval for wiretapping was sought after the fact, it was always granted.

That sounds awfully like a symbolic fig leaf to me.

Do any commenters here follow Al Giordano at The Field?

http://narcosphere.narconews.c…..didnt-fall

He’s had a refreshing take on FISA, backed up by his Latin American experience and the “War On Drugs” resistor news at Narconews.com. It’s been the kind of education on FISA and th 4th Amendment not to be had at the Lake, sad to say.

I especially recommend

http://narcosphere.narconews.c…..-the-field

for background on how the US Govt walks around FISA and the 4th Amendment saying ‘nyahnyah’ just because it can.

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