Here’s Johnny–and Bonnie!

dugg it

Lettin’ my hair down…………..

Dugg!
Thanks nahant

Eureka!

dugg, thanks for opening it nahant

excellent choice for a sunday nite, es. tis a fav – thank you

Perfect! Me too.

Evening ES how are you doing this evening… or should I say morning for you??

Tsk–double Digg–the Digg button says it’s mine

I Dugg yours anyway.

Couldn’t be better, nahant. It’s another gorgeous night in hillbilly heaven.

dugg both diggs

nice tune ES

The Digg is fixed.

Okay, then. So what’s on my mind? I’m maxing out on political disappointment and screwery. I will vote. But for this weekend: I talked to my sister on the other coast, taught my daughter to make enchiladas and how to cook a beef brisket (thanks Kathy S. for teaching me back in 1979 or so), just enjoyed playing. And thanked myself for putting in air conditioning when I had to replace a 40 year old furnace. Yes, I know it uses fuel, but I got tired of sweating. I hope you all did some fun things, too. Nurturance may be an important part of this year’s election cycle.

Thanks, and both of my favorite singers on this particular song.

Same here… weather has cooled down like it is supposed here in the Bay Area… thank god that heat was a bit too much… Even my Tomatoes were complaining and the crook neck squash was wilting every day…. Oh I hope that lurker doesn’t come back and berate me over using GOD …

WARNING: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, WITH CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President, 69 members of the Senate and 293 members of the House of Representatives.

ditto

i packed the linen closet and am doing laundry, packing the stuff that can be packed. bathroom has been emptied except for necessaries.

not fun but it wasn’t politics :)

I will make enchiladas for you in Tuscany, Dearie. We’ll grow the right peppers in our garden.

It occurred to me this weekend how little action we are going to see for the rest of the year since congress will be out much of the time or with an luck they will be stalling until next year.

And here I sit ready for the next battle, not sure what’s the best one.

Thanks Lurking Mod

Here ya go, have a semi-sweet chocolate cookie

Don’t know if it has any pecans in it, though

I may never tire of seeing your warning, nahant. Especially in digg comments.

Suzanne, please take over – I have to find some milk right now!
Thank you.

So you’ve been using that disclaimer for a few days now.
Has any of your mail been tampered with, or any strange noises around your property?

*strapping into mod chair*

ok but this time, try to not go to wisconsin for the milk

I figure it will get more notice if I also post it for every Digg I digg. Now all we have to do is fight to get that law repealed and those traitors of the Constitution replaced with ones who will Uphold and Protect the Constitution.. Ya know like the Oath they took and Swore to!

How do you permanently embed that text into your email?

Not yet but you never know… But if I detect it I will fight back as best I can…

hi friends. click on my name to enter a cartoon caption contest!

I agree 100 percent, nahant

but it will take some doing

Thanks, ES, for recalling my dream of taking a whole band of FDLers to Tuscany…..nice dream. But…smile with me…enchiladas in Italy would remind me of our idiot-in-chief calling out to Berlusconi, “Hey, Amigo!” [I don’t want to be wishing my life away, but can January ‘09 come soon enough?!!!]

And, ditto, re nahant’s warning. I thrive on it. Don’t quit on me, nahant. Your warning is just an amazing reminder of where we are and that we need to stay alert.

Yeah but they just swore to God.
They didn’t do the super duper
Cross my heart
Hope to die
Stick-a-needle-in-my-eye
swear.

I use Outlook and it is my signature instead of my name… or you can just copy it to notepad save it on your desktop (where it is handy) and just copy it into each piece of mail you send… real simple…

clicking (and waving hi)

That is some kind of scandalous New Yorker cover. I bet the Obama folks are peeved.

I wonder how it would feel to be a law studenr right now, studying Constitutional law, while Congress and the preznit pass a statute that flies in the face of the Fourth Amendment. Wonder what law professors are telling their students to expect the courts to do.

I’m just glad I didn’t take Constitutional Law from Professor lecturer Obama.

Next on Fox News: Who hates America more, Barack or Michelle? And when did they stop eating babies?

Or how about this – applying for a position in the Honors or SLIP program, knowing all that…

Oh I got the first entr.. I just know I will have a few more..)

law student

still have a splint on one finger

We will do what we do best and make a fuss and work against those traitors… The Lake is a very good way to et that done, what with all these fine Pups working together… The Lake is getting a lot of notice these days! And Neuro all our digging helps. So when you do open a new Digg try and get peoples attention with you opener and don’t forget the Spotlight link.. you can use that forum to send to up to 10 news outlets at a time… It takes a little more work and you need to get their attention but with a little practice it doesn’t take long at all…

ouch

yes, they are, per huffpo’s header. But it’s out there. Best to laugh at it–and defuse it, than pout and feed the trolls. I hope u left a comment there, hannibal! I;m still laughing!

LMAO!!! dam that would make them stick to it!!

Actually, it’s probably better we do it first. In the general season that is.

When did Rupert Muddock purchase the New Yorker?

hooray!! Looking forward to reading them. And now i HAVE to get my work done! g’nite, all
*poof*

So happy you sold the little cottage, Suz.

I did see that and it’s just another Rethuglian MSM doing the bidding of the rich owners who are afraid Obama will raise their taxes just like they need to be raised…. back to the Tax rates under FDR!! That would go for the Corporations also… They all get away with paying a trickle of what they should!!
At the end of WWII the corporations were paying around 47% of the overall tax burden… now they pay less than 7% and some pay 0% thanks to Ragun and the Rethuglians..

thanks loohoo

Night Laura don’t stay up too late working… you do need to sleep so you can keep your mind sharp as a tack!

nite laura
as always…

Hey Hey Enn ness Say
How many panties did you sniff today?
One, two, three, four
Hey! Mama tole you to close her drawer!

g’nite laurad

That is a great idea. I love seeing the winners of the New Yorker caption contest.

Not to be contrary, but I love the New Yorker cover! If not now, when? Had to come out for public discussion. And it brings up every possible issue RIGHT NOW!

Margot — you sassy! — I approve!

It’s twue. It’s twue.

I pissed off.

Hey Loo Hoo! Just patroling the C-Span video archives today-
Got a slight funny for you.
Click here and click on the “People” tab, scroll down and look adjacent to Issa’s name…
:-)

Evening all.

Suz,
What’s your throw away policy:
Keep it all
Discard a lot, or
Scarlett Ohara (think about it tomorrow)?

I hate the YouTube comment system sometimes. It lets me know when some asswipe has replied to something I don’t even remember writing. And it’s never even a halfway intelligent reply. It’s always some right winger, who worships at the altar of the free market, or wears Jesus Christ underoos or some shit. I just wish they’d learn to spell.

done! **steam still coming outta my ears**

Hey nahant…An amazing discovery. people said peas have to dry before you plant them…well guess what I found some peas in the pos I bought a month or so ago at FM, the pods had started to rpt, the peas sprouted and were feeding on them, perfect to plant! That’s the good news..I’m gonna skip the bad news suffice to say when America wakes up to what has been done to their country by Bushco I ain’t gonna be pretty.
I was driving behind a McCain bumper sticker it also jad “Don’t Believe the liberal media”!!!! I almost fell out of the car lala land.

i purged a lotta stuff when i moved up here 5 years ago. this time, most everything in the house is going. i’m giong through my clothes and purging stuff.

i tend to wanna be katie scarlet o’hara but figure if i do a little bit each night, it breaks it down to into not so big scary job but more like a series of baby steps.

You can disable reply notifications in youtube settings (or whatever it’s called)

Gubenatorial candidate…haw! Twas a pity to watch him cry when he realized Schwartz was in the game…

Not that you asked…..but, Suz, toss anything that doesn’t grab you first. When I moved home to CA after 25 years in the Midwest, I just sold/donated/tossed with abandon. The only thing I regret is that I somehow lost track of a wonderful pan that I used to use to make lobster broth. You gotta laugh. I’m not making much lobster anything anymore, but I still wonder what I did with that pan. Haven’t missed anything else!

Twas a pity to watch him cry…

And by pity, you mean that you only could see it once? :-)

It’s not reply notifications, they’re just there in the inbox, and I can’t resist reading the fucking things.

they are so uneducated they don’t even know how to use spell check /S

when i moved up here i lost two boxes. one had all my christmas stuff in it, decorations from when the girls were babies and before they were even twinkles in their daddies’ eyes.

and i lost all my pots and pans and bakeware. the kitchen stuff is what is miss most. i only miss the other box during the holidays but i miss my cookie sheets, cast iron skillets, etc., all year long

Storage apple boxes…I been doin the okie thang all my life…I keep an appliance dolly..please not again. Little at a time is good 1000 square feet hols a lot of stuff if you are apack rat. garage sale is good too say good bye and make some gas money

Just keep reminding yourself of two things:

1. If you haven’t worn it or enjoyed it for a year, you don’t need it

2. Each item you give away gives you another sense of freedom

just goes to show you they be learning at the school of bushco and dey tink dey be so smart!!

Did he really cry? (say yes – please)

When I came out to California from Maine I only took what would fit in the trunk of my 73 Impala…wasn’t much and now all of that is gone… they are just things and things CAN be replaced… now pets that is a whole different story!

yeap.

i’ve never been brutal with clothing other than if it doesn’t fit. but i’ve got stuff in my closet that i wore in the 70’s (and still wear occasionally). some stuff is keepers, like the dress from the bride’s wedding, my class a inspection uniform – but most everything i’ve got i wear. except dresses and they are old but still got some miles left on them.

most of the important memory stuff is in a large cedar chest and a smaller one. i’m just debating whether or not i wanna move the very large red sofa or should donate it and get one when i get up there that fits where i am. i’m leaning towards donating it.

I drove out to CA for a quick visit with three days worth of clothing.. stayed almost ten years. Seriously under packed that move.

Get your helmet on and take your protien pill. Blackjack went to the kiddie party as an observer today. No steriods this morning so not very active. We be very sweet to him no appetite today maybe tomorrow. Patience and kindliness is what I can give. Walked to and from the car and watched with interst as I fixed his trailer wheel axle. We go to farmer’s Maeket tommorow. 2 blocks away then to the bay.

I was going to say, ‘new stuff’ ‘new adventures’ ‘new ideas’ — LooHoo already said it all. I got nothin’

Yes. The creepy fucker cried.

Sounds like it… but when moving from Maine I was able to ditch all those COLD weather stuff… sure made my wardrobe a lot smaller:>)

In his defense, all San Diego Republicans are creepy fuckers.

It is real, Issa crying over not getting Governor…can’t find it right now googling and youtubing…

The irony is I ended up starting a clothing business.

Shit No sound… you had my hopes up Newton…

That made me laugh! I’m a packrat by nature, but just going with the flow is such a goooood idea. And I’m sure you did fine with a 3-day wardrobe. :)

i’ve got two seasons of clothing – hot and cold. gonna need the cold up there so it’s going with the furniture along with a lot of the summer stuff. will keep a couple pair of sweats here for just in case.

You call that a defense /s

Excellent find, newtonusr.

Of all things… bet you didn’t think that would happen..

I’m back. You guys have me laughing over there. Hannibal, may i post yours for you…?

And here’s the video, pups. Like a baby…
4:34 in…
:)

What’s on my mind tonight? Joe Barr and my sister’s rabbit both died on Friday. That plus the slow, agonizing death of the Fourth Amendment have left me drained of any interest in anything serious, I guess.

How’s everyone else?

I got offered a job in Melvin Belli’s office building.. Which meant I would have had to buy new clothing anyway.

Coincidently.. I missed Suzanne (yes, our Suzanne) by just a few years. She worked in the same building.

Well there’s some good news. Not the crying, but the reason behind it.

speaking of packing.. i’m off to do some more. g’nite all

He was sure was in Good Company:>)

Goodnight, Suzanne.

Issa is such a clown car.

nite suz!

Night Suz… Do get plenty of rest also.. you will need it..

g’nite Suzanne.

It’s the only one there is. Take a look at this if you don’t believe me.

That’s a bit of an undersell, Mary. If I were a clown car, I’d be insulted!

belli was convinced the transamerica pyramid would fall over and squash his little building. i worked for a lawyer on the 3rd floor and we had a loft with a roof garden and would run down to melvin’s office to use their photocopier. worked there for a year and left when i had my first child – now known as the bride.

(poofing for realsies)

Excellent!

G’nite Suzanne……pack happily. Adventures ahead.

True. Moves are like marathons, except the people who do them are seldom in shape for them.

Take a look at this tomato that Ron grew. I will give $5 to anyone who can guess what we named.

Can someone tell me how to contact AdAstra, who sometimes comments here?

Bob in HI

Nite Suz.

Yeah, but if the clown car had really strong springs to eject a passenger…

Not to get all new-agey, but there seems to be a band in which we ‘work’ — connections get made. I’ve experienced it over my life and my kids are experiencing it now……people they meet are old friends’ cousins, for example. It is wonderfully eerie and cheerfully delightful. and downright funny. More, more!

On campus at U of Oregon I swang by the Law school and they were playing poker…did not want to have that major. The jounalism department had bad vibes.

That’s awful the rethuglian is an insult to my family name just as his dad is… same mold both stupid assholes who like every rehtuglian only want more $$$ and take it from the backs of the working middleclass…

balls-a-lot?

I’m certain to get moderated, but…
Bumpin’ Uglies?

The Fly?

Newt fixed me up… most gratifying.

How true… When we purchased our house it took me over a week to move or throw away all the shit and we only moved nine doors down the freaking street!!… I never never want to move again…

He’s good at that…real good.

Triple C. Toe.

Couldn’t agree more.. Its sure been my experience for the most part.

hermaphrodite

Good one, but “The Fly” would have required fewer explanations, I think …

Yeah, creepy and stupid, I don’t think the guy’s ever had an original thought in his entire life. It would be funny, if he didn’t stand a good chance of becoming a congressman.

Here is a tickle for you pet lovers I got from my friend..

To be posted VERY LOW on the refrigerator door, at pet nose height.
Dear Dogs and Cats:
The dishes with the paw prints are yours and contain your food. The other dishes are mine and contain my food. Please note, placing a paw print in the middle of my plate and food does not stake a claim for it becoming your food and dish, nor do I find that aesthetically pleasing in the slightest.

The stairway was not designed by NASCAR and is not a racetrack. Beating me to the bottom is not the object. Tripping me doesn’t help because I fall faster than you can run.

I cannot buy anything bigger than a king-sized bed. I am very sorry about this. Do not think I will continue sleeping on the couch to ensure your comfort. Dogs and cats can actually curl up in a ball when they sleep. It is not necessary to sleep perpendicular to each other stretched out to the fullest extent possible. I also know that sticking tails straight out and having tongues hanging out the other end to maximize space is nothing but sarcasm.
For the last time, there is no secret exit from the bathroom. If by some miracle I beat you there and manage to get the door shut, it is not necessary to claw, whine, meow, try to turn the knob, or get your paw under the edge and try to pull the door open. I must exit through the same door I entered. Also, I have been using the bathroom for years–canine or feline attendance is not required.
The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat’s butt. I cannot stress this enough!

And:

To pacify you, my dear pets, I have posted the following message on our front door:

To All Non-Pet Owners Who Visit & Like to Complain About Our Pets:
1. They live here. You don’t.
2. If you don’t want their hair on your clothes, stay off the furniture. That’s why they call it “fur”niture.
3. I like my pets a lot better than I like most people.
4. To you, they are an animal. To me, he/she is an adopted son/daughter who is short, hairy, walks on all fours and doesn’t speak clearly.
Remember: Dogs and cats are better than kids because they:
1. Eat less
2. Don’t ask for money all the time
3. Are easier to train
4. Normally come when called
5. Never ask to drive the car
6. Don’t hang out with drug-using friends
7. Don’t smoke or drink
8. Don’t have to buy the latest fashions
9. Don’t want to wear your clothes
10. Don’t need a gazillion dollars for college, and…
11. If they get pregnant, you can sell their children.

That used to be my answer when people would ask me if I wanted a boy or girl when I was pregnant. Really messed with some people’s minds. That is my job. I am, after all, a left handed southern scorpio.

I like number 11.

So what did you name that thing?

guess no. 1 clowncar

guess no. 2 cameltoe

Me to

heh heh I got degrees in both–they each have their ugly sides

One of them got the energy deregulation passed that opened the door for Enron, Texas Natural Gas and others to skin California of $35 Billion and a Dem Governor. Crimials folks the Republican Party is the crime pays party.

see comment number 120.

To be fair, Davis was a world-class schmuck. This guy tried to charge students to attend one of his re-election rallies at their own campus!
But still…

Look what some looser repug said the other day:

June 10, 2008 Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) said: “For those states that feel it is appropriate, they should be allowed to explore for oil and gas off their shores. It works in Louisiana. You could almost look at Katrina as a positive example. Although Katrina was a horrific disaster, there was not one barrel of oil spilled as a result of that category five hurricane coming up the gulf and going through New Orleans. It wiped out the city, but all the oil rigs were functioning – and there were a lot of them in the Gulf of Mexico – and they survived the storm without a leak, without a spill of any kind.”

9 fucking million gallons of oil was spilled. What a dickweed.

heh. purr.

I have yet to hear an ordinary Californian (IOW, one who isn’t a politician) speak well of Davis.

In 1959 the Judges down their were exposed on a call gir?pimp ring. Can’t help wonder if they made the hooker do some kind of kinky guilt sex trip.

Is that who Jean Shaheen is running against?

I think it is considered a vulnerable seat

Not a terrible Governor, and a strange and semi-tragic family story during and after his return from Vietnam…

But he did not crash California.

Gray Davis made opalescent discharge look appealing.

Unlike Grey, discharge could be had for free.

Yeah, shockingly lacking in the charisma department for a pol.

That was probably listed on the official Republican Talking Points sheet for the day that all Repug congressmembers received from whomever is doing KKKarl’s job now. Gregg probably didn’t bother to fact-check it. To those people, truth is beside the point, the point is to just keep saying it and a lot of people will believe it

Painful listening to Howard Ford talking about Obama on MTP. I’m uncomfortable with Ford’s vision of strategy.

Bob in HI

Howard Ford? Harold Ford? Howard Dean?

Yes. Prolly.
They said recently that there was not a major oil spill during Katrina. This is true, sort of. Enough oil spilled for seven major events.

if only CA could convert his [anti] charisma to energy….

And this was just the number thay came up with on September 19th…

More than 500 specialists are working to clean up 44 oil spills ranging from several hundred gallons to nearly 4 million gallons, the U.S. Coast Guard said in an assessment that goes far beyond initial reports of just two significant spills.

The report comes nearly three weeks after Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast, and reflects the fact that the Coast Guard and other agencies are able to only now tackle environmental problems since the search and rescue effort is winding down.

It’s the sad result of an attempted merger of DFA and DLC. The results were tragic.

I think I saw that in a Star Trek movie. They needed a new first officer after that one.

My cat would think the note said “Bite Me!” and would comply..

It wasn’t Davis that bothered me it was the $35 billion..jus sayin friend

One of the most narcissistic, self-aggrandizing assholes on this planet.

‘Rhoids?

see comment number 120. :)

Isn’t he the one that is a car thief?

# Mr. Meriwether, a 60-year-old former vice chairman of Salomon Brothers, has seen three decades of market zigzags, recessions and credit contractions. Yet he can’t corral the risks of today’s markets and is trying to play it safe, even though he believes he should be buying securities.
# His funds’ losing positions have included mortgage securities backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, trades tied to municipal bonds and triple-A-rated commercial-mortgage-backed securities, according to the letter. Those bets have eaten into his returns this year, particularly as hedge fund Peloton Partners LLP and Carlyle Capital Corp. unloaded many of the same securities as they spiraled toward demise.

http://www.fundmymutualfund.co…..iling.html

Lefty Economics be Dammed some people still believe in Pixies er Hedgefunds.
Who in their right mind would give ” Mr. Meriwether and his colleagues at JWM Partners LLC ” money this is the same guy who took down Long Term Capital Management. Think about a fund collapse so big the Greenspan had to call in all the major banks to help the Fed save the financial system.
However Meriwether and his new fund is losing money because the Carlyle Group is selling Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Just how much money do you have to lose before the hedgefund business kicks you out?
I bet that Bush 1’s hedgefund the Carlyle Group needs to get a better price for its Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac stock than they were getting or else they might be facing another margin call.
I think Bush is self dealing to his Dad and the Bush family trust with our tax money.

Did he “scream” the names of states while triangulating and moving to the center?

I hadn’t heard that, but I’d put nothing past him. Loo Hoo is our Issa expert.

lol!

Hi mod my comment at 158 reads

Think about a fund collapse so big the Greenspan had to call in all the major banks to help the Fed save the financial system.

It should read
Think about a fund collapse so big that Greenspan had to call in all the major banks to help the Fed save the financial system.

Maybe that was someone else. Some pol invented The Club for steering wheels.

Davis learned cautiousness and frugality from his mother. She once berated him from 11,000 miles away, through a long-distance telephone operator and Army radio relay, for calling home from the Vietnam War before the rates went down at 5 p.m.

His mother sounds like she gave lessons to Barbara “Marie Antoinette” Bush. He was one fucked-up dude.

And Issa is the car thief.

nite folks

Merging anything with the DLC would be a tragedy, as is continuing its existence. The best we can say is that they are the epitome of “Republican lite.” But they are much worse than that. They are the reason that a Democratic congress is in capable of doing anything that the U.S. electorate elected them to do. They are the mechanism by which one-party rule has prevailed in America.

My bad. Harold Ford. I try to avoid mentioning his name.

Bob in HI

g’ nite neuro..

I’m fading fast as well

g’ nite fabulous firedogs!

Issa is a loser all around.

In 1971, Issa allegedly stole a Dodge sedan from an Army post near Pittsburgh. The allegation was made by a retired Army sergeant, and published in a 1998 newspaper article. Issa denied the allegation. No charges were filed.[13][14]

In 1972, Issa and his brother allegedly stole a red Maserati sports car from a car dealership in Cleveland. He and his brother were indicted for car theft, but the case was dropped.[13][14]

Also in 1972, Issa was convicted in Michigan for possession of an unregistered gun. He received three months probation and paid a $204 fine.[15]

On December 28, 1979, Issa and his brother allegedly faked the theft of Issa’s Mercedes Benz sedan. Issa and his brother were charged for felony auto theft, but the case was dropped by prosecutors for lack of evidence. Later, Issa and his brother were charged for misdemeanors, but that case was not pursued by prosecutors. Issa accused his brother of stealing the car, and said that the experience with his brother was the reason he went into the car alarm business.[13][14]

A day after the court order, Issa allegedly carried a cardboard box containing a handgun into the office of an A.C. Custom executive, Jack Frantz, and told Frantz he was fired. In a 1998 newspaper article, Frantz said Issa had invited him to hold the gun and claimed extensive knowledge of guns and explosives from his Army service. In response, Issa said, “Shots were never fired. … I don’t recall having a gun. I really don’t. I don’t think I ever pulled a gun on anyone in my life.”[15]

Night Neuro.. we gotta get our diggs synchronized one of these evening:>)

I am off also night Pups see ay all later…:>)

Looks like you Mary McC might be right:

On December 28, 1979, Issa and his brother allegedly faked the theft of Issa’s Mercedes Benz sedan. Issa and his brother were charged for felony auto theft, but the case was dropped by prosecutors for lack of evidence. Later, Issa and his brother were charged for misdemeanors, but that case was not pursued by prosecutors. Issa accused his brother of stealing the car, and said that the experience with his brother was the reason he went into the car alarm business.

(from Wikipedia)

nite neuro

nite eureka

I’m fading, too. Goodnight neuro, ES, and those yet to leave.

that’s f*’ing hilarious!

Nite Nahant!

What a jack ass!

Me, I am going to bed. I start my new gig tomorrow. Freelancing for an outfit that makes flash sites. Have to get my thinking sleep.

Self dealing our tax dollars to save the family trust!!!!! Wow and the hits just keep on comming!!!!
Lotsa folks gonna wish they had cut their losses by Impeaching Chimp and Company.

Good Nite Hope the Job works out marymccurnin

Who are the World’s Top 20 Public Intellectuals?

Who would you nominate? List your top ten, and then check your list against
Foreign Policy’s list. If you know about even half of the people on this list, you’re doing better than me.

These are important people to know about, whether or not we agree with them.

Bob in HI

nite cujo. loved your piece on Joe Barr.

nite mary – congrats, and give’em hell!

Knock their socks off, Mary!

Have a great day – you’ll wow em!

Great comedy..cracken me up…if it wasn’t so hard on the poor folks im Californis. First thing the cut is mental health abd safety net budgets.

I didn’t see Juan Cole on that list, and that’s probably a mistake.
And has anyone seen Bah-Bah-Bowee and Steven Colbert in the same place together?

Bush 1 is on the Carlyle groups board I wonder how much of the Bush family trust is in it?
Shouldn’t family trusts be included in personal financial statements for Presidents in a perfect world because sooner or later Bush will inherit?
Right now though we don’t know how much the Bush family is in for if the Carlyle Group takes a dive ands thats the question bugging me.

I knew from minimal input that Issa is a nut case, but the shit coming out here and now goes way beyond what I suspected. But maybe not so much. Whenever I’ve seen one of these preening, self-righteous Republcan pretty-boys I’ve almost always found them to be nutcases. Propositioning a peace officer in a bathroom or something like that. They are all very, very crazy.

Also I doubt America has enough money to save the Macs if things are really bad.

How else do you find morally hollowed-out, essentially blank slates – you settle for guys who are better suited to be applying shellac to surf boards.

My top pick by far would be Glenn Greenwald.

And congenital auto thieves.

But really – how does a party manufacture parrots? And that’s exactly what they are.
It can’t be anything at all but the money. The promises of lobbying jobs, and consultancies, and speaking tours, and chicks (except in the case of Ginny Browne-Waite).

They are as morally bankrupt as they can be, else they would not be ale to say the shit they do without killing themselves after. They either lacked humanity at birth or they traded it in for the jack. And neither is appetizing.

Issa was just doing research for his auto alarm company/s

Which reminds me, how is it Carol Lam went from a newly created job supervising foreign litigation at Qualcomm to their General Counsel
in a few months? Same way Jim Comey went to Lockheed as General Counsel?

Are we really ok with this particular revolving door between top DOJ officials and the military/industrial complex?

God is Money for the Neocons. Many church pay the big bucks for their leaders. The ol country preacher willing to take chickens, eggs and veggies for pay seemed to have disappeared. Working for God not money was supposed to be the biblical plan. So much for religion.

Y’know, I think one of the most remarkable things about the list is that most of them are not Americans!

Even we, the “high information” voters, lack a lot of information about The World!

Bob in HI

Dood! IMHO, you’ve got their number. These are intrinsically evil people, who were never socialized as children. Devoid of empathy, any sense of shame and/or guilt. Nothing but me-first ethics. That’s who they are.

Glad someone else noticed, Totally agree with thee bro.

Morally bankrupt.

In my naievte, I am inclined to give these folks a bit of a break – Comey and Lam. They worked for a pittance in their government service, and showed no inclination towards leaving until ChimpCo came along and tried to muscle them into committing crimes.

Yeah, they’re Republicans, and yeah, Comey has some interesting ideas about Executive power. But their integrity was unquestioned, and fidelity to the rule of law is unmistakable.

…intrinsically evil people…
…never socialized as children…
…Devoid of empathy, any sense of shame and/or guilt…
…Nothing but me-first ethics…

Remind us of anyone?

Maybe a payoff…hush money to stand down and shut up. Haven’t heard a peep. Election hush money.

Worked for a pittance? Specifics? $45,000/yr or so? Is it possible that they just learned that there is no place for integrity/service…..that they got skewered by the govt. and might as well go forth and make the big bucks? I fear that the Bush years will be notable for destroying the very idea of public service. Grover wanted to drown the govt in the bathtub. I guess it got done.

And one more thing – Marie Roget (I believe) posted the link for Seattle University’s archive site during the Inglesias (WOW) Book Salon this weekend.

And this one particular video link at that page – U.S. Attorneys Public Policy Forum (05/09/07) – plays a panel from last year where John McKay, Paul Charleton, and Inglesias sat for a couple of hours and simply blew the place away. All former USA’s, all Republicans.

I’m not saying I would like them as my Senator or Critter, but representing the Untied States Government in court – impeccable.

Sigh! But all of them are that way. Every last evil-assed bastard among them. I resent the air that they breath. They should share in the same oxygen as the rest of us.

Ian said it so well this afternoon:

What happens if there’s a class war and only one side bothers to show up and fight it? That’s what happened over the last thirty years. There was a class war, and the rich won. Period. It’s over, they kicked our knees out from under us, put on their steel toed boots and spent the last thirty years telling us that they were going to trickle on us and we’re going to like it and beg for more.

People like Issa have been trickling down on us for 30 years. WTF are we going to do about it? And, if anything gets done, it’ll be us and not Obama that does it.

But on the plus side there is all this debt the banks gave the Fed at face value for t-bills as well as the Freddie and Fannie Mae stock.
If the economy does not improve before Bush leaves office Obama might be smart enough to ask for interest as well as a public accounting of all the collateral that Helicopter Ben has been very free with accepting and exchanging for T-Bills.
If the Banks and the Macs can’t come up with the money well either we have a fire sale on worthless assets that if we wait a few years will go up in value.
Which is what I’m sure that the banks want so that they can borrow money and buy the assets back on the cheap using the t-bills Helicopter Ben gave them as collateral for the loans.
Or Obama could demand more stock/money/assets from the banks because the current assets are not worth face value and exchange the current assets for bank stock.
Think about it Fannie, Freddie and I think all the major banks have borrowed from the Fed, so we the people would have bought bank and Mac stock at the bottom of the market.
If the government waits a few years before selling we might make a HUGE profit. Or we could just keep the stock collect dividends and sit on their boards. By we I mean the WE, in We the People our Government.
If any of these companies have 50% or more of their assets held by the Fed then Bush Economics will have led to the Nationalization of some or even all of our financial institutions.
But here is the punch line because the market is so bad the government can’t unload these debts and come out even now or in the foreseeable future. Now then thanks to Bush the National Debt is so high that we really can’t afford, uh just how much debt?
See! Helicopter Ben is not telling us the real numbers on the value of the assets because he is afraid to look and order an audit so chances are that if he is afraid, then we can’t afford a loss that big on our government books or else the Dollar will drop.
That means we keep holding, that means more people will ask about interest. That means no fire sale!

Its funny that Bush will have made it almost impossible not to Nationalize all our Financial Institutions.
Bush thought his legacy would be to force his successor to stay in Iraq by handing him a mess to dangerous to drop off.
But the economic mess he has left is so dangerous that Bush might push this country Left more than FDR did.
After all the Financial Institutions might in whole or part be Nationlized, would we have Hybrid cars without Bush?
Would Vestas Wind Systems a windmill company grow faster than Haliburton or the oil companies did during an oil war?
Would Ford and GM be among the next candidates for a government bailout because they didn’t want to make hybrids.
Bush by failing, Bush by proving that Milton Friedman is a moron is doing more to move America Left than anybody else has.

And, if anything gets done, it’ll be us and not Obama that does it.

As bad as it is to watch Obama head in that direction, I’d rather believe he’s playing a huge pander to capture Hillary’s constituency than believe that he really is the guy he looks like while he’s playing that pander.

I don’t think he’s the “righty” he seems like now. And for the record, I quit on the tooth fairy and the easter bunny a long time ago.

Sociopaths:) and…chimps?

A chimp, not all Chimps in madness man is worse than the animals, sane we are at least not all that often a danger to ourselves.
Damm I like that! I write some good stuff here sometimes:)

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Well, on the government sow there are big teats, little teats, and a vast expanse with no teats.

I’m not questioning their integrity, I’m questioning what these companies are buying or think they’re buying for the big bucks.

Surely access, the ability to get to the top and knowledge of sources and uses. Perhaps no different than hiring retired generals, etc. – or regulators going to the folks they regulated (or vice-versa)

These lawyers wouldn’t be experts on the specific areas of law the businesses deal with. They wouldn’t necessarily have fabulous administrative skills (govt being what it is) though they would have political skills.

Their politics/integrity aside, I’m just wondering if this is an ok trend, or if there shouldn’t be some sort of cooling off period. With regard to justice, I do think appearances count and it would be terribly unfortunate if anyone thought DOJ folks might give future career opportunities consideration in their current decision making.

I know major law firms have always hired folks with this sort of experience/clout/name recognition, and maybe this is the same thing. Just dunno.

What happens if there’s a class war and only one side bothers to show up and fight it? That’s what happened over the last thirty years. There was a class war, and the rich won.

Whats that joke supposedly from Russia after the cold war We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us?
Looking at all these financial troubles brought about by funny numbers, I think the American version might be the rich lie about all the money they supposedly make and the middle class lie to themselves.
And every few years a crunch happens and a few more rich become middle class and a lot more middle class get poorer than their old man was doing the exact same job.
Remember the Dollar is dropping in value. My Grandfather kept his and my grand aunts family under one roof on his and my Grandaunts paychecks, sent three kids to college 2 of whom graduated and he never became a Citizen.
Today Lou Dobbs cries about Citizens who can’t make it today in America, never mind taking in relatives and getting kids through college without loans on a construction workers salary.

Good Nite Newtonusr.

The world’s richest banana republic. But, a banana republic never the less.

No its less about being able to do the job like rebuild Iraq than about who you know in the contract process America could save money if all lobbyists were banned.
I hope we have trials for war profiteering!

Thats one of the reasons we left Mexico:)

I don’t disagree – I would love to see some of them turn up at Greenpeace or the ACLU or PBS.

McKay is a visiting Professor at Seattle University, and the same link to that University’s site that I posted above also has sessions where McKay teaches a seminar to attorneys on how to leverage pro-bono work into the high-end firms the students will eventually work for.

Bud Cummins works for a recycling concern.
All is not lost, but I get your drift.

now really… to bed.

If Government does not have the expertise then they should learn about the issues first before they pass laws and spending approvals.
Government needs its own experts who owe Congress not private industry allegiance we should pay our brains more because in the long run trusting someone else’s brains/experts to say anything that would cost them money is asking them to lie.

Forgot to mention my Grand Aunt was a Maid and helped out best she could:)

Attaturk is upstairs!
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Oh, I think these guys can do the jobs and do them well. They are well educated, good on their feet and should be totally competent to analyze situations and assess risks, alternatives and consequences.

That said, General Counsel, although not line management or the decider, is up there with senior/executive management and has enormous influence on policy in many areas.

I suppose ultimately for me it comes down to appearances (and, of course, the possibility of abuse, or even being able to distinguish what constitutes abuse).

It would indeed be shocking if these companies are viewing their General Counsel as lobbyists, but you make an interesting point since so many law firms have gone into the lobbying business over the last 10 or so years… and we’ve seen how that can work out *cough* Abramoff.

Oh, I think these guys can do the jobs and do them wel

If they are competent then they guys who bid on Iraq reconstruction jobs are crooks.
Hmm. I can live with them going to jail.