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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/12/yo-t-boone-show-us-the-money/#comment-1538862</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IIRC, the same is true of the modern pebble-bed designs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, the same is true of the modern pebble-bed designs.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/12/yo-t-boone-show-us-the-money/#comment-1538861</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wrong.  This is from 2005: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aqmd.gov/news1/2005/phillhomerefuelingunitpr.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.aqmd.gov/news1/2005.....nitpr.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong.  This is from 2005: <a href="http://www.aqmd.gov/news1/2005/phillhomerefuelingunitpr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aqmd.gov/news1/2005&#8230;..nitpr.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe2</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/12/yo-t-boone-show-us-the-money/#comment-1538765</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluetoe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;T. Boner Pickens is nothing more than a fascist in sheeps clothing.  He was a big backer of the “Swift Boat Vets for Truth.”  T. Boner can’t stand the truth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T. Boner Pickens is nothing more than a fascist in sheeps clothing.  He was a big backer of the “Swift Boat Vets for Truth.”  T. Boner can’t stand the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/12/yo-t-boone-show-us-the-money/#comment-1538572</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I‘ve been wondering if vertical-axis turbines (or windmills) would be safer for wildlife than the current common designs with the short horizontal axis and long blades. Would you know anything about that?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I‘ve been wondering if vertical-axis turbines (or windmills) would be safer for wildlife than the current common designs with the short horizontal axis and long blades. Would you know anything about that?</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/12/yo-t-boone-show-us-the-money/#comment-1538570</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There was a reactor design, called CANDU, that could use unenriched uranium, or depleted uranium, like spent fuel rods. It always sounded like a good idea: recycling the rods, in a sense.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a reactor design, called CANDU, that could use unenriched uranium, or depleted uranium, like spent fuel rods. It always sounded like a good idea: recycling the rods, in a sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/12/yo-t-boone-show-us-the-money/#comment-1538565</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I get “document not found” for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www1.eere.energy.gov/wi…..41869.pdf.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www1.eere.energy.gov/wi…..41869.pdf.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get “document not found” for <a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/wi…..41869.pdf." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/wi…..41869.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www1.eere.energy.gov/wi…..41869.pdf</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/12/yo-t-boone-show-us-the-money/#comment-1538564</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The natural-gas hookup I’ve seen in houses are not designed for fueling cars. There are safety requirements - ventilation and fire safety in particular - not to mention pumps and compressors, because the pressure in your house is nowhere near what you need for the stored gas in the vehicle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Home natural-gas car fueling? Not anytime soon.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The natural-gas hookup I’ve seen in houses are not designed for fueling cars. There are safety requirements &#8211; ventilation and fire safety in particular &#8211; not to mention pumps and compressors, because the pressure in your house is nowhere near what you need for the stored gas in the vehicle.</p>
<p>Home natural-gas car fueling? Not anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: SunnyNobility</title>
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		<dc:creator>SunnyNobility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pete, in reading their faq, I noticed they require a 20yr contract.  Under the question of what if I sell my house? the answer seems to be either your purchaser must assume your contract or you remain libel for the 20 yr term — &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;wth does that mean and why are they worried about a 20 yr term?  Sounds like one could get really stiffed (i.e. locked in as technology shifts and perhaps unable to realistically sell one’s house).  Unless they are looking for a long term monopoly, seems they should have a clear buy out provision going in.  No doubt it’s also an investment on their part, but 20yr total lock on a res property??&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, in reading their faq, I noticed they require a 20yr contract.  Under the question of what if I sell my house? the answer seems to be either your purchaser must assume your contract or you remain libel for the 20 yr term — </p>
<p>wth does that mean and why are they worried about a 20 yr term?  Sounds like one could get really stiffed (i.e. locked in as technology shifts and perhaps unable to realistically sell one’s house).  Unless they are looking for a long term monopoly, seems they should have a clear buy out provision going in.  No doubt it’s also an investment on their part, but 20yr total lock on a res property??</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
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		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, a substantial part of the solution.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a substantial part of the solution.</p>
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		<title>By: jacknva</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/12/yo-t-boone-show-us-the-money/#comment-1538469</link>
		<dc:creator>jacknva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With great respect to Firedoglake principals and participants, I’m surprised that Firedoglake readers believe everything that the Whitehouse or the Houston Chronicle says.  At best, the Chronicle quote from Cambridge Energy Research Associates is uninformed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Cambridge Energy Research Associates study has never been vetted by experienced wind researchers, as far as I know.  Wind energy may not always blow on the power system’s peak, but it blows pretty regularly and smoothly if the wind turbines and wind projects are distributed over a large area.  Studies by General Electric Company for New York State, the Minnesota Department of Commerce for the entire state, and the California Public Utility Commission, to cite a few,  show that large amounts of wind power, say 20 to 30%, of electric generation on an annual basis can be readily achieved.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The host power system is used to dealing with fluctuating sources, only they are called loads.  The addition of small amounts of wind is barely noticed on most systems. As penetration of wind increases, addition of small amounts of flexible capacity will be desirable and can be added.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Recently, the Department of Energy has  completed a study showing that 20 percent of total annual electric energy could be supplied by wind power for the lower 48 States for a minimum cost.  This study was performed using last year’s conventional energy prices and the economics would look better today.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Check that study out at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www1.eere.energy.gov/windandhydro/pdfs/41869.pdf.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www1.eere.energy.gov/wi.....41869.pdf.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s true that wind does not always blow when we need it, but on a statistical basis it blows steady enough to displace a lot of fossil fuels that would otherwise  produce greenhouse gasses. Not only does wind power displace greenhouse gasses, but it generates jobs and revenues for landowners and state, local and the Federal government(s).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But do not take the word of a 25 year wind researcher retired (me), check out Jerome A Paris on DailyKos who finances European wind projects,  the US-based Utility Wind Integration Group who reflect electric utility interest in wind power at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uwig.org,&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.uwig.org,&lt;/a&gt; the National Renewable Energy Laboratory Wind Program at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nrel.gov/wind&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.nrel.gov/wind&lt;/a&gt; or the American Wind Energy Association (www.awea.org).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plug-in hybrids, as the FDL article states, are likely much better for transportation than a natural gas infrastructure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wind Power is not the answer to our climate problems, but it is part of the solution.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JackNVA&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With great respect to Firedoglake principals and participants, I’m surprised that Firedoglake readers believe everything that the Whitehouse or the Houston Chronicle says.  At best, the Chronicle quote from Cambridge Energy Research Associates is uninformed.</p>
<p>The Cambridge Energy Research Associates study has never been vetted by experienced wind researchers, as far as I know.  Wind energy may not always blow on the power system’s peak, but it blows pretty regularly and smoothly if the wind turbines and wind projects are distributed over a large area.  Studies by General Electric Company for New York State, the Minnesota Department of Commerce for the entire state, and the California Public Utility Commission, to cite a few,  show that large amounts of wind power, say 20 to 30%, of electric generation on an annual basis can be readily achieved.  </p>
<p>The host power system is used to dealing with fluctuating sources, only they are called loads.  The addition of small amounts of wind is barely noticed on most systems. As penetration of wind increases, addition of small amounts of flexible capacity will be desirable and can be added.</p>
<p>Recently, the Department of Energy has  completed a study showing that 20 percent of total annual electric energy could be supplied by wind power for the lower 48 States for a minimum cost.  This study was performed using last year’s conventional energy prices and the economics would look better today.  </p>
<p>Check that study out at: <a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/windandhydro/pdfs/41869.pdf." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/wi.....41869.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www1.eere.energy.gov/wi&#8230;..41869.pdf</a>.</p>
<p>It’s true that wind does not always blow when we need it, but on a statistical basis it blows steady enough to displace a lot of fossil fuels that would otherwise  produce greenhouse gasses. Not only does wind power displace greenhouse gasses, but it generates jobs and revenues for landowners and state, local and the Federal government(s).</p>
<p>But do not take the word of a 25 year wind researcher retired (me), check out Jerome A Paris on DailyKos who finances European wind projects,  the US-based Utility Wind Integration Group who reflect electric utility interest in wind power at <a href="http://www.uwig.org," rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.uwig.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.uwig.org</a>, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory Wind Program at <a href="http://www.nrel.gov/wind" rel="nofollow">http://www.nrel.gov/wind</a> or the American Wind Energy Association (www.awea.org).</p>
<p>Plug-in hybrids, as the FDL article states, are likely much better for transportation than a natural gas infrastructure.</p>
<p>Wind Power is not the answer to our climate problems, but it is part of the solution.</p>
<p>JackNVA</p>
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