I know we’re not supposed to directly quote AP stories without paying them serious cash, but this story is so important and has such major ramifications for this election — which will of course decide the leader of the free world — that I feel it vital to get this information out there immediately. The AP is to be praised for their tough-minded professional journalism.
Bernie Mac makes off-color joke at Obama event
Comedian Bernie Mac endured some heckling and a campaign rebuke during a surprise appearance Friday night at a fundraiser for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Toward the end of a 10-minute standup routine at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in downtown Chicago, the 50-year-old star of "The Bernie Mac Show" joked about menopause, sexual infidelity and promiscuity, and used occasional crude language. "My little nephew came to me and he said, ‘Uncle, what’s the difference between a hypothetical question and a realistic question?’" Mac said. "I said, I don’t know, but I said, ‘Go upstairs and ask your mother if she’d make love to the mailman for $50,000.’"
This is potentially game changing. Who would ever have expected such stuff from Bernie Mac? At any rate I don’t see how Obama can possibly win in November in the aftermath of this catastrophe.
However, this story does go some distance towards silencing another controversy that the Obama campaign has been desperate to quiet (MORE AFTER THE JUMP!):
Mac’s appearance was Obama’s first celebrity event of the evening. Later at a Lincoln Park nightclub, Obama spoke to a raucous crowd of music fans, who paid up to $500 per person to see a performance by Wilco lead singer Jeff Tweedy, and two other band members.
"Before these guys go, I want them to know that I had heard a rumor
that they had suggested that I had nothing by them on my iPod," Obama
said. "That is not true. I love Wilco."
Nevertheless, political observers are certain that the Obama camp is having a great deal of trouble staying on-message, and the candidate himself is prone to terrible gaffes just like "BernieGate." Mac is just the latest in the long line of embarrassing associates Obama has had to throw under the bus, giving rise to speculation that he is a flip-flopper who cannot produce a Sister Souljah moment. Without a doubt, John McCain has once again won the week.



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Aloha, Thers!
zomg
thers! crap!
OH NOOO! I shall wring my garments, gnash my hands and cover myself in ackcloth and sashes!
Yer all just a bunch of whiners!
Jokes about menopause? There’s nothing remotely funny about menopause!
Or sex!
Oh, boy. Thers! Now to read.
You moonbat hack! Why didn’t you mention John McCain’s appearance with the constitutionally constipated crooners of Ebsom Salt’s and His Bowel Busters singing their one hit wonder as performed on Hotel Commode: “I Love Her So Fuqqing Much I Could 5hit.”
Ah, but Bushie soliciting bribes for the Pet Goat Library will narry raise an eyebrow in the beltway, I bet.
Maybe I’m naive, but why are these jerks bringing Obama down? You’ve got Jesse threatening to cut of his ‘particulars’ and now crude jokes by Bernie Mac….and supposed supporters all pissy because some muslim women couldn’t be in the picture. Who in the hell is running BHO’s show? I’ve been known to say some off color things now and then, but I wouldn’t do it at an event to show my support for a candidate. What gives?
phew!
How many times do you suppose the Hindenberg can crash? Is anyone keeping count?
Perfectly proper and normal procedure, my dear. Nothing to trouble your pretty little head about. Run along now and speak with the Ladies’ Auxilary. 8-P
Oh, for crying out loud. What a screwed up campaign Obama has. /s Bet he won’t speak in Germany either.
Or Iraq, when he goes with Hagel and Reed…!
Buncha mental midget whiners.
that’s just the problem. It IS the normal procedure for the Bush Crime Family.
But no one seems to care.
If a tree falls in the forest and there’s no one but the beltway chattering class there to witness it, will they even notice it? Only if a dem had anything to do with taking it down.
Saw articles about Hagel, didn’t know about Reed.
Pusher!
I prefer the “one hand clapping” question. Slap the shit out of them and say, “did you hear that?”
Do not think Reed is on board. Isn’t Hagel bad enough? I reckon they were plannin’ on droppin by the Gate fer a mug of the good German Beer before Obamabi did is JFK imitation.
the face that Reed is going has heated up veep speculation about him being on the short list. O could do lots worse. Lots. Jack is a pretty good guy and is far more progressive, though quietly so, than many others.
Oh, I no. It absolutely infuriates me that the press continue to give the GOP a pass for the most egregious and horrendous ethical lapses while castigating Democrats for petty shit like this or the Rev. Wright.
Would I, would I?
Late I don’t have time for more hi-jinks with Obambi.
Who gives a damn in five years folks’ll be goin’ Obama who? Who?
sorry, but NO FUCKING REPUBLICANS! Period. Ever. In any capacity except toilet cleaner.
Jack Reed is a dem from RI.
I wonder if anyone from the AP will get ahold of Obama’s iPod and find that, in fact, he does not have any Wilco on board. Wouldn’t that be shocking?
They do exist for two purposes: To protect corporations and investigate Democrats.
They are not interested in solving problems. They only want to know how to make you afraid of it and who to blame for it.
Government serves no function.
My bad. I thought you meant Hagel, about whom the nattering nabobs of nonsense are3 all atwitter.
gasp – oh the inhumanity of it all
Even if he did the NSA could fix it before the story went to press.
The latter may have some utility. The former is totally counterproductive since we ought to nuke the lot of them (or at least seize their assets and turn them over to the employees).
you missed one. They also exist to make themselves and their cronies lots of money, mostly stolen from those who work for a living.
other than to be their personal wallet – takes money to make money yanno
Don’t know much about him. Did he vote the right way on Fisa?
channeling Aaron Sorkin via the “American President?”
He’s also a former Ranger Capt., he is an excellent escort to edumacate Obama on the dog and pony Brass shows…! ;-)
I have never understood (gotten) that joke, OFG. Can you please tell it and explain it?
save your snotty remarks for people who actually care what you think.
Rhode Island has a GOP governor, who would appoint Jack Reed’s replacement were he to be elected Veep, alas
*no flaming please*
Holy cow, don’t scare me like that!
Voted no on cloture and no on the bill. Like I said, quiet but usually in the right.
sorry Suzanne, just getting really tired of the anti Obama crap. It’s flying in from all directions these days and it needs to be addressed.
He’s a good man, just like his fellow compadre, Whitehouse…! ;-)
no problem – sometimes its a hard line to see
Do you know for a fact that RI has that procedure? RI is one of the bluest of the blue states and Carcieri is kind of a strange guy. I met him when he came to a memorial service I did when I worked in RI. In any case, each state has it’s own process for replacing elected officials. And I’m sure that someone is paying attention to details like that.
Unlike, HoJo, whose sorry mug I’m watching on tonite’s World News on ABC…! 8-(
But to speak to the topic, it’s easy to take on the press….yes, they do not report fairly. However, it is still the undecided independent voter that Obama needs to appeal to apparently. BMac’s jokes offended enough of the supporters at this event and got bad press, too. Unnecessary and counterproductive. Why are supporters doing this?
for lards sake, find the remote and change the channel dood
West Point grad and a Roman Catholic. If only RI had more electoral votes…
wiki
He’s earned every bit of it as far as I’m concerned. Right wing blogs are trained to toe the party line. We try to maintain the 1st Amendment—at least for as long as Big Brother lets us. That’s what makes us liberal.
He’s a more reliable vote than Whitehouse :(
Unreal, HoJo said, on ABC, “He’d take the hit for his support of McInsane…” To include committee assignments in the next congress… Ya’ Think…? ;-)
Really…?
then the whiney assed titty boy (WATB) can claim perpetual victimhood at the wingnut welfare teat
Actually, Reed is up for re-election this year, so (depending on whether RI has an LBJ law like Connecticut) someone else might have to run for Senate on the Democratic line if he’s Obama’s Veep choice. Changes the odds in Reed’s favor, I think…
It was agonizing, but, I endured…! ;-)
I know you’re right, free speech is protected at all costs. But “Obambi” sounds like a GWB, right wing slur.
Is that kind of slur okay if someone you agree with says it?
(and thanks Thers, I always enjoy your posts.)
At this point he knows his only salvation lies in cozying up to the rethugs. Come Nov.5 he no longer has anything that Harry wants or needs. He will be irrelevant. He’s desperate for attention to feed his sense of self-importance. Sadly, he’s got nothing the rethugs want either—at least they won’t want it on Nov. 5 unless McThuselah wins.
Basically he’s betting on the only horse he can.
as head moderator, let me assure you that obambi is mild compared to what gets moderated
ACitizen never minces his words…! Take it for what it’s worth…! ;-)
There’s a huge line between McCane and Obama though. We just need to get over it. *g*
I’m so happy to see that there will be an FDL Caucus at Netroots Nation.
Will you please liveblog that for those of us staying home this year?
i have ooooooooooodles of kittehs
http://shaggydogfarms.com/
I’ll be honored to, Teddy. John Dean and Nancy Pelosi will be keynote speakers too. Where’s Obama?
foxman
save your time. the Dems are great at bringing down their own candidates and it continues. we just can’t seem to get out of our own way.
Obama, Pelosi, Reid, …
are far more dangerous than
McCain, Pelosi, Reid, ….
Let’s see now, He voted for cloture on FISA. He voted FOR FISA after making a campaign promise last fall that he would support a filibuster, he doesn’t think that a woman’s mental state should be a consideration in a late term abortion case, he’s all for funding faith based initiatives, he has anti-gay Christian rock singers headline fund raisers for him, he cozies up to A*PAC, there’s more but just typing it makes me angry.
So yes, I have no problem with Obambi.
For the first time since I was of voting age, I don’t plan to cast a vote for the pres. That’s how angry I am. And I have no need or desire to hide that here. This is not a fan site.
Mod Help
The type is so small I can’t read it. My type is set om largest on outlook.
Mod help
He’s not going. Instead he’s sending in some of his “trainers” presumably to train the unruly netroots to get with the program.
I’d totally disagree with that thought.
and CTuttle too,
(backing away slowly with arms raised…)
Like many here, I’m not always thrilled by Obama’s position, but I’m appalled by AP and the rest of the MSM knocking him while overlooking McCain’s obvious, serious mental problems.
If you’re on a PC, hit control+. On a Mac, hit command +.
Have to agree, other than I will hold my nose, grit my teeth and vote for him. Only because McCrazy Old Man is infinitely worse. I will not be happy about it and I will scream loud and long every time he fucks over the progressives, but I will vote for him. I will not work for him or give him a penny. Actions, and political positions, have consequences.
or try Firefox. Better for your health all around.
or in ff3, use view and zoom in text
A solid majority in both houses and no Obama, is much better than with Obama. That could be the sharp stick in the eye needed to get Pelosi and Reid off their asses, and rid us of that jerk Dean. These last two and next four squandered years have been brought to you by the blue-crap cabal.
Among other things, these rat-shits have undercut The Constitution! Don’t you get it? Aren’t you really pissed? Want a more recent list of the ‘among other things?’
Obama the hand puppet.
Kool……….thank U
word……………..zactly….oy and Cindy lou
I do use firefox. Safari and EO are trouble. Wonder what ever happened to netscape…
There are some seriously uptight assholes in this country who need to go rent a sense of humor.
please NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCINDY LOU RODEO QUEEN
Disagree.
Let’s keep the ”all-caps” elsewhere. Thanks.
They finally closed shop not long ago.
Which is what I’m about to do for the night.
pleasant dreams everyone.
But Cindy Loo Hoo is my doggie. They’re not all bad.
I agree with you
hahahhahaahahahahahahahahahaha
nite revdeb
Night RevDeb.
Good night, RevDeb. Hope to see you again next week.
g’nite revdeb
Did Selise put up her appendix to her FISA post yet…where?
Not going this year. Too demoralized and don’t want to spend the money, not to mention that most of my buds aren’t going either.
nite all.
Been out all day, having a life.
Did I miss anything?
Nite RevDeb.
Tony Snowe kicked off.
kittehs at 67…teh adorable
i did not sob
The world came to an end, the fundies are celebrating, the GOP is blaming leftie bloggers for using bad words, and the left is too busy arguing amongst themselves to notice.
I didn’t either. My respects to the mourning family, other than that…….
the human species aint my fave
Nice sitrep, Dr. D.!
its a puzzlement …how they do what they do
some humans aint human
For once I will follow my mama’s advice and speak no ill of the dead. I will not, however, say anything nice.
Evening all. Could not get back in time from taking the kids to a fireworks show — spent an entire hour trying to get out of the parking lot. Also, the 2-year-old managed beforehand to scamper off into the beer tent and disappear. Sheesh…
With this phony outrage over Bernie Mac, all I can say is Richard Pryor can be thankful he isn’t around right now.
was wondering what happened to ya thers
At any rate the point of the post was about the AP — this crap will be covered in more detail than FISA, and that’s what pissed me off.
Carlin must be laughing, too.
Thought I heard a blerb about that.
*hic*
I’d sent a general email before I left about where I was going — seems it vanished into the nowhere. I expect it will appear about three weeks from now. (As has happened before.)
A couple of brews later ya found ‘im, eh? ;-)
So.
Same ol’ same ol?
them nasty peeping toms over at the enn ess aaa will probably try to figure out a way to ransom it for some snacks since we’ve cut them off
Don’t know why they don’t just come out and publicly endorse McShitsHisPants. Well, yes I do. Then everybody would know and they could not get away with subverting the Obama campaign as readily.
The more it changes, the more it same as.
Chocolate milk ———-> monitor. Thanks for the laugh.
His faith-based stuff is not as bad as they make it sound, unlike the current gang of @#$%^&*s.
I wish, though, that he’d come out and say no religious preference in hiring for non-religious jobs.
(I also think ACitizen is slightly over the line of good behavior; there are a lot of people who say they’re Democrats but never miss an opportunity to badmouth one or another big-name party member, preferably in a place where a lot of other party members hang out.)
OK, I’m nodding off here. Off to bed. On a positive note, the rivers are finally fishable! Yay! I even caught one tonight. Of course it was almost big enough for bait, but it was my first fish out of the river this year. Night all.
left ya a comment,love your puppy, heres one of mine
http://bp3.blogger.com/_puwu6D…..1_0068.JPG
Was Pryor rude and crude at somebody’s fundraiser/meet&greet? I don’t recall.
As I see it, a serious progressive movement began in 2002, which really were dark days indeed. It’s only 6 years later. The abolition movement from the 1800s, to the civil rights movement, had a hell of a longer time before them to change fundamental realities of how our nation works. And it’s not like that movement’s chores are over.
I never expected to be pleased by this year’s Democratic candidates. I think the job of reforming the party will take a lot more time and effort.
It’s a hell of a slog. But too much cynicism and despair are enemies. I’m not saying things don’t suck, but I do think we’re already somewhat better off than we were in 2000, say. We’ve certainly gotten better at dealing with the media. It’s not nothing that there exists something like a counterweight to wingnut talk radio, after all.
oh i miss him
No. It was another boring day in America the Beautiful. *g*
Check out Emptywheel.
OT,
I sent this to Jane, it seems someone in the press finally woke up and figured out the new FISA law has some nasty implications regarding the First amendment too.
Where the hell were ya?
http://www.latimes.com/news/op…..7129.story
g’nite dr (no pause) dick
Wha … selise is putting body organs on her posts in protest of FISA ? *g*
Evenin’ all !
i was wondering if that was you.. thanks sadly – yours is bigger than mine
He told it like it was, regardless.
do we have a topic?…who knew
Over at Eschaton someone came up with the name “McTheuselah,” which is of course very mean and I cannot support. (Whistles)
Yer both right and on that ‘bi-partisan’ comment…..
…..good night.
he just showed up one day,so did the 2 chiuauahas”g” however ya spelzz it
g’nite acit
OT: Good Fucking God. Here’s Frank Rich from this morning’s NYT:
It’s a must-read.
i still like McGiggolo
THAT’s “off-color”? You’ve gotta be shitting me. Please. It isn’t “off-color”. It isn’t “offensive”. And most importantly, it isn’t “funny”.
Boring? Good. I could use a little boring.
craving chocolate
I still like McShitsHisPants.
boring rocks…true dat
Someone needs a swift kick in the nether regions for that bullshit.
Not that I am condoning violence mind ya, just a little remedial therapy.
and the sraightcrock express
Open wide, I have chocolate…
This freaks me out. Along with the new ability Bush has claimed to martial law under the ‘right’ circumstances.
LINKIES! Please.
OT — excellent post and interesting thread … and also listening to BBC. 20 poor workers in suicide pact near Calcutta (who keep greens for a cricket club) in protest since they are starving despite economic growth in India. Also, China suspected of bombing villages in Darfur. Oh yeah, Robert Mugabe will probably get retroactive immunity … good night….
ohhhhhhhhhhhh goody what kind?
CRAP… i forgot to do the digg.. don’t forget to digg this fine thers post
Kick in the nuts.
You had it right in the first place.
To be announced after he decides what the hell they are exactly.
I was purposefully misreading bigbrother’s comment …
oh my dropping Ts straightcrock
What happened was, we’d just met friends and hence there was a bit of a distraction and of course, being 2, he took off at top speed. I gave chase.
It’s a bit hard to describe the layout, but to one side of the beer tent there was an area where they were selling sausages & pierogies. Now, there they had a counter, and at the end of the counter they had, you know, a place where the counter swings up. The upshot is that he could run right under the counter, through the cooking area, and then out again under the counter-hinge on the other side. Since I’m not 2 feet tall, I could not do this.
By the time I got someone to open the counter, he’d swerved, finding the back way into the beer tent. And when I found him, he’d slipped and was on the floor crying. I got there, and he was being comforted by what looked like the drunken unemployed third cousins of ZZ Top. Who gave me dirty looks like I’m a horrible parent.
Whee.
Uhhhh, the chocoate kind? Don’t be so picky!
I am falling asleep here, gnite kids.
g’nite busted
It’s funny when I tell it to an all-male group but I’d never tell jokes like this to a mixed crowd … then again, comedians are always the first to cross boundaries …
Aloha, Mi amigo…!
‘nite Busted
probably the difference between the spoken word and the written word, petro
((((( CT )))))
… passing you an ice cold Leffe through teh toobz …
nite busted
im not….but sending you a sublime treat
http://tns-www.lcs.mit.edu/~hh…..-small.gif
Sausage, beer and chocolate.
I must have died and gone to heaven.
nite,nite busted
Can you imagine anyone telling Don Rickles or Red Buttons to mind their manners ?
*drool*
Add a Hockey game and you’re there … *g*
TRUFFLES have ridges”g”
Yeah, I mean, it’s Bernie Mac. He did his schtick. Some of it was of course kind of stupid and, yeah, obnoxious.
But, then, so? Why should Obama be asked to apologize for Bernie Mac? Who cares? It’s not like Mac was his senior economic adviser speaking as his official representative to the Wall Street Journal, say.
hahahaha
Saw Buttons many years ago on stage – wow, did he have a dirty mouth. And he looked like an elf.
what??? 175 comments, and only 2 Diggs?
was Digg broken tonight or something?
let’s give Thers some Diggs before we leave for LLN
Dammit Thers! I only read the title and thought you were serious!
[/shakes fist]
saw rickles – he made fun of everyone
and then had a very poignant statement at the end of the vegas show saying he hoped that by making fun of everyone, we realized just how alike we all really are
was in the late 70’s
I wish Richard Pryor and Redd Foxx were alive today …
sort of like scootie libby
said that up top……….sigh
Oh, sure.
Is the puck made of dark chocolate?
I think I could keep up in that case!
that rich column was forking scary – sometimes the truth is scary but needs to be said
thanks
Oh crikey Thers!
I know I can always count on you for a good laugh!
OT: Well damn. per NHuffPo:
The press covers for McInsane when his economic advisor (someone who supposedly speaks for MsInsane) does an interview and says the terrible economy is all in our heads and we are really all just a bunch of whiners. But BO gets torched for some comedian making a joke at a fundraiser. Does the MSM realize what a bunch of frikin kindergartners they all appear to be?
Am I stupid, or, aren’t presidential candidates and comedians a risky mix?
Yep, they would do an entire show on the stupidity of the MSM …
Suz and calling all dog lovers. Hot news tip…Blackjack now Mr or Sir as in gettin older and feelin it…aren’t we all.
He had a party here and he got a trailer ride behind my bike to the Dock on the bay where I parked him under his fav jasmine tree (has sweet smellin flowers and chewable grasses). I boogied back to the shack to get the rowing shell…alas the axle broke on the trailer (with my help). So I loaded the rowing skull on the station wagon and rejoined my master down by the bay, which was high tide and pretty calm.
I did a quick 400 stroke and loaded BJ into the the rowboat (bigger and more stale) and took him on a site seeing tour of the Egrets and Blue Cranes in the Autobon Bird sactuary (Sweet Springs). He enjoyed the tour. I let him stay in the boat while I hopped into the scull again for another 400 or about a mile. He is eating and drinking well and can mosey a few hundred feet. So I am making damn sure he gets to enjoy his liesure. He says woo wagin tail to you all.
Red
http://www.einsiders.com/featu…..uttons.jpg
Scootie
http://tomroeser.com/blog/img/…..bby_03.jpg
same dirty mouth
Only when it is a Dem President … Rickles was shooting Bazookas at Ronnie’s Inauguration Ball and nary a peep from the press.
That is usually a mistake…
A-Citizen articulates his position clearly and forcefully in terse and to-the-point posts. This cannot be said of all others.
A-Citizen has as much right to express his take on the matters to hand as do you or, for that matter, any of us here.
Now a certain someone will again take me to task for ‘coming into the room and correcting…[which] I hate’ she sez.
C’mon: it we can’t discourse with civility here, then what hope for the greater body politic?
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BTW, Loo Hoo has asked me how long I have been reading FDL: Since late 2004. I admire FDL greatly.
Does the MSM realize what a bunch of frikin kindergartners they all appear to be?
————
i prefer
RIDICOUSLY highly paid whore/liars
Red wanted us to laugh at him …
bb, that is pure love and bj knows you are giving it to him
token sends bj a head nod and a tail wag
driveby –
put up a post at my place on this morning’s Blue America fdl session with Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich. He’s running against Ted Stevens – after he wins his August 26 primary. Begich will be a panelist and speaker at NRN next week.
Back in a half hour…..
Sigh, right, only for Dems.
mmmm, warm fuzzy.
Is that the DAA law?
Hi Suzanne. Thanks. I love scaring the shit out of people, when it’s appropriate.
Others may throw their boulders. My goal is to throw pebbles very fucking hard, in hopes of creating a new climate of opinion in this country, a clueful climate that respects our origins.
((( ET )))
hey et
With all due respect. In the current climate of opinion, I find comedians to be the most clueful people on TV. I’m talking about Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert, and Keith Olbermann, who doesn’t considre himself an commedian, but who is a satirist.
How many sneering martini toting muslim country club patrons do you know who know what Wilco is?
.
cartoon upstairs
just fab,beautiful image ,thanks
Absolutely a must read. Cool that it is MSM.
The guy is wearing depends or something non-presidential.
Are they dead?
I agree 100% with what you say…! As I mentioned earlier, he doesn’t mince his words…! ;-)
You are so right, and if I didn’t have these great comedians, and Keith, I’d never be able to dress and go to work everyday. I guess what I meant, is, not candidates going on to shows of Jon, etc., but standups at fundraisers…something that I don’t ever see Jon or Stephen ever doing. Am I wrong?
Yes, but from my point of view, namecalling like”Obambi” reeks of rethug tactics.
I feel the same way about the childish use of McInsane, etc.
I’ve since been corrected by many here. Let’s all help get John McCain elected. Go for it.
Hi!
i agree with you…wasted breadth
Definate risks. (sp?)
and breath too.
(or were you calling me fat?)
goodnite and best wishes to all, including ACitizen!
Hee Hee. Ha Ha. Calling women “hoes” is so funny, we should just look the other way when it happens at our party’s campaign events. Tee Hee. Or even better, we should point fingers at the media and blame THEM for it! Ho Ho.
Aw, Thers, I’m just messin’ with you, man.
First up on google. I am no expert, but this is freaky. Maybe someone else can comment?
Hows about some civil liberties and fuck Emily Post obfuscation! As long as your polite anything goes steal the treasury.
You just hammered it. Spying on us is one thing martial law and all it means is raising the fascist bar to the Nazi level backed by AIPAC. So so unbelievable…you better believe it.
‘Evening, Loo Hoo!
I’ve been saying for years now that W will adduce (or actually foment)a pretext for declaring martial law. And do not forget, y’all, his quips (but quite serious, it would seem) that dictatorship, with himself as dictator, is best.
I am no conspiracy theorist, but mark my words: this W intends to declare martial law and not to leave office!
Recall, also, that he put into place many presidential findings and orders for continuity of HIS government which would otherwise be inexplicable if he intends to leave office at the end of his term. What benefit would a short-timer have from all of this detail otherwise?
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Been trying to get to you to answer your query: I have been reading FDL since late 2004.
Good to know, cleanth. I came via Huffington Post. How about you?
I came in late and have no idea where this has gone, but I got to this at #12. Apparenbtly Bernie Mac wasn’t so all that funny:
So then, Obama felt the need to throw Bernie under the bus:
IMHO, Bernie was lame, but you don’t throw a bro under the bus for this shit. He was there to help. Just sayin’.
Beg to differ, wigwam. How does referring to women as “ho’s” help? And Obama’s half-assed, “no, I take it back, I’m just messing with you” comment at the moment was just gross. And later, to get another “clarifying remark” from a spokesperson is just becoming for too much par for the f*$!ing course from him and his campaign.
Wigwam has writen:
“IMHO, Bernie was lame, but you don’t throw a bro under the bus for this shit. He was there to help. Just sayin’.’
I have lost a great deal of what cautious respect I once had for Obama, and not just because of his latest equivocations and rapacious honing after the presidency at, apparently, any cost.
I do not trust this man.
As for McCain, he is beneath contempt. However, I cannot subscribe to the ‘lesser of two evils’ concept. Evil is evil, and it will not do to claim in expiation that Senator or Representative so-and-so did it. When you vote for these people you are erecting vicarious moral agents who take, in your name, decisions for which you alone are responsible. You cannot abrogate or delegate your responsibilities as a moral being.
I don’t think that Mac’s lame attempt at humor went quit so far as “referring to women as “ho’s”, but he he won’t enjoy facing the women in his family:
YMMV. The women in my family would righteously crucify him, with no mercy. And the men would be giggling as he squirmed. Yes, right, they should join in. But the women are so damn good at this. He’s be crying for his mommy.
IMHO, it was ill-advised of Obama to try to get into the middle of it. And the way he did it was particularly lame.
Well, if you don’t “think” so, that’s your right.
Reuters tells a different story.
The money quote to teh super-funny joke: So he tells the nephew: “Hypothetically speaking, we should have $100,000. But realistically speaking we live with two hos,” Bernie Mac said.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Obama would have been well within his rights to tell him off, but he couldn’t even get that right. He had his spokeswoman do it. Classy, as ever.
If this were my blog, I’d have two syllables for you. As it is not, I will merely request that you grow up.
Huh.
Censorship “”sucks”" in all forms. Does not matter if the censorship is initiated by quote: “the right or left.” Moderators and Editors are viruses and the First Amendment was designed to negate the “fascist tendencies” of the modern day thought police! As a head moderator you are the problem not the people posting. Ask Norske, Kiddo, Raven and several others who have vacated this site because of tactics employed by moderators similar to the tactics employed by the current fascist bastards in the white house. Hypocrite you are! Words and the alleged offensive nature characterized by some posters is “nothing” compared to the issues facing America. Nosrke is correct! “Latte drinking,” nitwits who have no concept of history, facts, or the experience in “life” to comment. “Moderator would you please delete this!” Kiss my derrière PC/fascsit creeps…
Exactly.
Can’t you just hear the State of the Union. “American citizens and you HO’s,I’m here to report that the state of the union is…..”
I am 68 years of age with a distinguished professional academic record and have won several awards.
I have thought long and hard on these issues.
My thoughts, as conveyed in my post, are considered.
Differences of opinion, especially thought-out opinion, are not occasions for such epithets as yours to me.
You seem indicative of the rather abysmal level to which public discourse has sunk in this country. You do, in this way, as it seems to me and many another, no honour to either FDL or to the ideals of Jane and ReddHedd, et al.
I would discuss my positions in depth with those inclined to open discourse.
At least I am qualfied to form the opinions I express, and I do not open my mouth before well considering what I have to say. This is no ad hominem attack on you, but ‘if the shoe fits….’
Good day, Sir or Madam!
My favorite comment on this story, stolen from a poster at Shakes Sis
What I wonder about Obama is, though– with his amazing wife and two daughters– what is there about Mac’s misogyny that he finds the least bit funny?