When I read the news that Blackstone Group multi-billionaire Peter Peterson has started a foundation, with a billion bucks behind it, to fight budget deficits, my first thought was "where the hell was this guy 6 or 7 years ago? Where were those billion bucks when we needed them?"
Because anyone who’s paid attention knows that after Clinton sucked it up and got control over the deficit that Reagan and Bush Sr. gave him, George Bush went on a drunken spending spree and trashed the place. And there were no multi-billionaires coughing up a billion bucks to fight against tax cuts for the rich, or drunken spending on stupid and unecessary wars back in 2002 and 2003, were there?
Now I’m an old-time conservative, from back in the days of yore when conservative didn’t mean "tax cuts we can’t afford" but meant "don’t charge it to the credit card". You know, the days when real men brained dinosaurs with slide rules.
So I love me a balanced budget, and despite my initial livid anger mild indignation that these guys were missing in action back when saving the world from evil deficits meant opposing tax cuts for themselves, I’m certainly willing to welcome fellow fighters against budgetary malfeasance with open arms, even if I’m somewhat suspicious that just maybe if we weren’t looking at Democratic trifecta, just maybe, they wouldn’t be one billion dollars concerned.
So off I go to look at their solutions (pdf). Hmmmm. Off we go:
What needs to be done? Simply stated, our elected officials just start to close the gap between spending and revenues that results primarily from large and growing unfunded promises for Social Security and Medicare. Projections show that by 2027, if revenues stay at 18.3 percent of GDP—the level we are used to—they will not even cover net interest, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
Hmmm. A danger sign. Putting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid in the same phrase. Why’s it a danger sign? Well, here’s SS’s financial situation:
In FY2007, Social Security received $187 billion more in payroll taxes than it paid out in benefits. This annual surplus is credited to Social Security trust funds that hold special non-negotiable Treasury securities, although it is borrowed and spent by the government for other purposes. The total balance of the trust funds is $2.2 trillion in 2007 and is estimated to reach $4.3 trillion by 2017. At that point, payments will exceed payroll tax revenues, resulting in the gradual reduction of the trust funds balance as the securities are redeemed against other types of government revenues. By 2041, the trust funds will be exhausted. Under current law, Social Security payouts would be reduced by 22% at that time, as only payroll taxes are authorized to cover benefits
Assuming no changes. Zero. Social Security will run out of money in 33 years. Thirty three years. It will not even start paying out more than it is taking for another 9 years, and it won’t exhaust the huge reserves it has for another 24 years after that. Now, how much of a problem is "fixing" this problem that isn’t even a problem for 33 years? About 14% increase in income. How can you fix that? Well, folks above a certain income don’t have to pay any more into SS after that income. Take that cap off.
So whenever someone, anyone, talks about all 3 combined, I get annoyed, because SS just isn’t a significant problem. Now David Walker, ex-comptroller (who was an excellent one, by the way) notes this himself , calling it "an easy fix". But the group’s materials conflates the three. Really, in terms of entitlement spending, the problem is Medicaid and Medicare.
Click through on the pretty graph to the left. Most of the cost increases are not because of demographic issues, they’re because medical costs per person are just rising faster than inflation. That’s a big problem, and I don’t think anyone has a solution. This is happening in all countries. But here’s something interesting. Most other countries are spending two-thirds what the US does, per capita. Be clear, their governments are spending about the same, but the society as whole is spending 50% more. Why? Because they have universal health care, in most cases single payor. And it’s about a third cheaper than the inefficient US model. Switch to that model and while it won’t decrease the amount of money the US government has to pay (which should stay about what it would have been otherwise, maybe a few percent higher) it will reduce what the individuals and companies combined pay by about a third. Since they’ll be paying less, you can do something that the Peterson foundation doesn’t seem to like talking about much: increase taxes. And if you do it right, people will both pay more taxes, and still have more money left to spend, because the tax increase will be less than they used to lose for health insurance.
Something else that notably doesn’t get talked about by the Peterson foundation is the real third rail of US budgets—not Medicare or Social Security, but the military budget. The US spend half the world’s entirely military budget—no joke, but as much as everyone else combined. And for spending all that money it gets what exactly? The easiest fat to find in the US budget is definitely in the military budget. No country could invade the US if it spent one-tenth as much on its military and everyone knows it.
Now all of this isn’t to say that the Peterson foundation’s basic idea "live within your means" isn’t a good one. Many of us here in the blogosphere have been screaming this from the rooftops for years. (Welcome to the party, lads. Pass the ammo. And where were you the last 6 1/2 years. Hmmmm?) They’re absolutely right that debt services charges are an awful thing to spend money on. But somehow the problem for folks like Peterson is never the precipitous decline in capital gains taxes, or corporate tax rates, or estate taxes; nor is it spending too much on the military, the huge bleeding ulcer of Iraq, or the massive tax cuts for the rich. Somehow it’s people who need healthcare or old folks getting Social Security checks. Somehow there’s never a billion dollars to say ‘well, one way to fix medical costs is single payor, and every health care expert who isn’t paid not to know, knows it" but there is a billion bucks to go after "entitlements". Somehow there isn’t a billion bucks to go after the fat cats who benefit from bloated Pentagon budgets which don’t make the US one whit safer.
And somehow there wasn’t a billion bucks to stop Bush and the Republican Congress from going on a drunken warmongering spending and tax cutting binge, but now that there’s a possibility that Democrats might be in charge, fiscal responsibility is important again. Spending money on tax cuts for the rich and for unproductive foolish wars is one thing—but the very idea that it should be spent on old folks and sick people, well, that won’t do.
So while I want to believe the best of my fellow deficit slayers, I think I’ll wait to see whether their heart is with their wallet, or if they care as much about their fellow Americans as they claim.
Because I remember all the years where there was no billion bucks.
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Morning, Ian.
There is no trust fund. There is only a future obligation which would have been there even if there had not been dollar one committed to some mythical “trust” fund. Those “trust fund” monies have been and will be spent as ordinary revenue and represent nothing more than a backdoor tax on lower and middle class Americans who pay into the Social Security system.
Great post Ian,
My question is this – how much does Blackstone Group stand to gain if Social Security is “privatized”? This is the real goal of all of these deficits hawks – it is conventional wisdom in the “Village” that Social Security is “broken.” IMHO, it is because Wall Street sees it as their next revenue source.
We have seen in regard to FISA that a significant minority of the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans in regard to paying heed to their corporate masters above all else; Dollar Bill Bradley, for example, who was bought and paid for by New York brokerage firms, had privatizing Social Security on his hit list – luckily he proved to be a crap candidate back in ‘99 and ‘00.
The issue therefore is to make our voices heard on this issue as well – this is another issue of better Democrats who listen to us, not corporate America.
Finally, in regard to the Defense budget, as long as individual Representatives and Senators see the Defense budget as a manner of adding jobs to their District’s or State’s economy, we are never going to be able to change this issue. Every single time a base closing or a killing of a submarine contract, for example, comes up, my Congresscritters scream like banshees. That is a paradigm that needs to be changed as well and color me pessimistic of that ever changing.
What a terrific post.
Thank you.
You make your readers more literate about the economy.
Great post.
Isn’t deficit fighting best accomplished by,
1. not engaging in military conquest and other discretionary foreign misadventures
2. not pillaging the national treasury for personal gain
3. not turning the country over to a criminal gang of thuggish cronies
?
Blackstone’s interests here may be easier to understand and more prosaic than that. Its biggest holdings are in commercial and residential real estate. It wants an end to the current mortgage/property implosion to that it can get back to its main business of making buckets of money building cities.
From my scandals list:
Yes, I think Blackstone can teach us all about our public, financial responsibilities.
Peter G. Peterson wrote a wonderful book “Running On Empty” in 2004 essentially taking the Bush administration to task for blowing the nation’s financial priorities.
Nobody seemed to be listening, so Pete joined the Money Cabal and became an instant billionaire.
There is no trust fund. There is only a future obligation which would have been there even if there had not been dollar one committed to some mythical “trust” fund.
My understanding is that, even though the surplus is regularly spent on other government measures, accounting wizardry always show this money as an ‘asset’, when it is in fact a debt. Thus, the horrible numbers presented on the national balance sheet should, in fact, be much much worse.
Also,
It is not entirely accurate that Peterson has not been on this particular bandbox for a long time. He wrote a book in 2004 entitled: “Running On Empty: How The Democratic and Republican Parties Are Bankrupting Our Future and What Americans Can Do About It.” The reason I remember this was because he came on Al Franken’s show during the infancy of Air America when I used to listen to it. (Now it is a sad bunch of crap, especially Lionel and the Bill Press show make me wretch). According to his wiki entry, he was a co-Founder of the Concord Coalition in 1992, which was “…. a bipartisan citizens’ group that advocates reduction of the federal budget deficit. I do realize it is wikipedia, so take that FWIW.
He is a Republican along the lines of Paul O’Neill where he feels that Bush et all have failed conservatism not that conservatism is a failure in and among itself. That is the issue here – I would not be surprised if more of these “bipartisan” efforts show up – the ones that Democrats seem to heed for whatever reason, while the GOP gives them the proverbial 3-finger salute.
Great piece! Single payer health care could give america an economic shot in the arm- but I don’t think it can happen here. Obama isn’t even proposing it. Too much built in resistance from members of the status quo.
You know some ways to fight budget deficits would be to increase the capital gains tax, force the rich to disclose all their income, increase the income tax rate in the higher brackets, and treat the profits of hedge fund managers as income not capital gains.
Ian, I have tried to digg, via firefox and IE. I’m getting timed out on both.
Not entirely,
Interest Payments on the National Debt are part of the budget. These include, if my understanding is correct, interest on those special securities Ian speaks about in his post. Therefore, while the money coming in in FICA payments are indeed an “asset”, the interest payments on them are considered spending.
If someone wiser than I can refute this understanding, please do so with links, etc.
check out the ad in the upper right hand corner – “Health Care for America NOW!” and then read nyceve’s diary, “Has MoveOn lost its mind?“
as if yesterday wasn’t depressing enough.
decrease military spending?
If someone wiser than I can refute this understanding, please do so with links, etc.
Not me – IANAE (I am not an economist). Thanks for the clarification.
This Bkackstone group really does have some intestinal fortitude. Ian, is 100% correct in calling this what it is. The only time conservatives care about fiscal responsibility is when democrats are in the White House. Someone should ask why is wasn’t prudent to push this so called fiscal responsibility on the out of control spending that occured in the last 7 years. The ten biggest deficts our country has had were when a republic was in the white house…. Insanity of dopes.
There is no gold in Ft. Knox either.
Once the people owned 700 million ozs of gold, but no more. The Banking Cabal owns it all now. The Federal Reserve and IMF looted the fort, as President Reagan found out in 1982.
Now that the Cabal owns most of the world’s gold, expect a lot of jive talking about the glories of the gold standard.
Me neither! :)
I just have read a lot about this business, especially when Josh Marshall, among others, did such a bang up job in stopping the bamboozlement back in 2005. Advocates of privatization throw a lot of sand in the umpire’s faces as a wise prosecutor once said – it is helped along with the mindset among the MSM that this stuff is just way too complicated.
It’s actually real simple. Social Security has worked for close to 80 years and will continue to work as long as it is not changed. Medicaid and Medicare – not so much. Anyone who conflates the two is throwing that proverbial sand.
I get my medical insurance through the successor to a company that I once worked for. I am not 65 but am getting interested in Medicare. The company is moving all of it’s over 65 coverage to medicare (plus a supplemental) rather than coverage through an insurance company because it’s CHEAPER!
The off-budget deficit is what is most commonly reported as “the deficit”. This represents the “surplus” contribution (what I call a bakdoor tax) from Social Security.
The on-budget deficit can still be found in budget reports but not the media. This is the deficit without the Social Securiy contribution and is always considerably higher.
I have come around to thinking that since the Social Security “surpluses” are just another tax. We might as well continue with the off-budget numbers.
I should point out too that this markedly reduces the size of the national debt as well. Most of the intragovernmentally held part of the debt (currently $4.2 trillion) is involved in this Social Security “surplus” scam. The publically held part of the debt is currently $5.3 trillion. So while the national debt is currently reported at $9.5 trillion, it is effectively closer to the $5.3 trillion number.
I call the Social Security “surpluses” a scam because the American people will have to pay this money twice. The first time is to pay into the system to create “surpluses” which the government then spends. The second time will be to pay back the “surpluses” as Social Security needs them between 2017 and 2040. This is the future obligation I was talking about above. If we had been spared the “surpluses” this obligation would still be there and we would have had to pay it only once.
Be very careful. Medicare and supplemental are extremely complicated and although I have it, I’m still not sure how it is working. And I now realize that the supplemental is the MOST important thing. Mine is lousy so ask every question you can think of or you will get totally screwed.
I’d put it more simply than that – don’t try to conquer people. If you look at world economic history for at least the last thousand years, no other single factor, beginning with the 100 years war between England and Spain, going through the 30 years war with Spain and the Hapsburgs and encompassing the First World War, even comes close to bankrupting countries more frequently than discretionary military adventurism.
mccaint: we’ll grow the economy by not spending the money we don’t have because w already threw it down the well.
wretched, senile, angry old #art. send him and deadeye both to sit on the porch while their brains wither to dust.
sorry.. 100 years war between England and France
Thank you for wonderful posts, Ian.
I’m not eligible for a while and I intend to study the thing thoroughly in the meantime..
The true supplemental plans, as I understand it, are cookie cutter and must adhere to the requirements of congress– the other insurance plans that take the place of medicare can do as they like.
Seems that empire used to pay for itself…no longer.
Yes, single payer is the healthcare that dare not speak its name. It is the one solution to our healthcare crisis, and the one that politicians refuse even to discuss.
what’s in it for them? nothing.
IIRC not all politicians refuse to talk about it. I believe Hillary and John Edwards both had single payer plans.
an now, apparently, we can add MoveOn and allies to the list of those who refuse to discuss it. :(
I don’t recall any of the candidates touting single payer—Hillary tried it in the nineties and got her head handed to her…end of story.
Well said Ian.
Didn’t Ted Turner give a billion dollars to the UN?
You know that made me realize that empires are a lot like financial bubbles. There is an upside expansion phase with revenues flowing in. These usually have an economically disruptive effect, producing inflation or undermining the domestic economy as goods and services can be purchased more cheaply elsewhere. Then there is a maintenance phase where outlays exceed inflows in a spiral until the empire founder divests itself of its empire or falls.
Clinton’s plan still went through insurance companies with their 30% overhead. To be honest I can’t remember the Edwards’ plan.
Paulson and Bernanke are testifying before the House Banking Committee this morning and asking for more power to fix our financial system.
That these two clusterfucks are still in office speaks volumes about ”fixing” the coming Depression.
Im’ going to try to find the Edwards plan. I attended an event he spoke at and I know he supported single payer. Stand corrected on Clinton.
BO doesn’t even cover everyone.
If someone builds a P and L covering Bush’s Iraq empire we will see just what a shitty manager this fucker really is- it all goes out- nothing comes in…
He should have studied somethin other than economics.
Whiners, it’s just a mental
depressionrecession.http://www.johnedwards.com/iss…..act-sheet/
Link to Edward’s health plan- NOT single payer.
Yes, when they talk about “fixing” the economy, I do not think they mean the same thing as you and I do.
THANKS!
iirc, edwards plan allowed people the option of buying into a gov run medicare type plan (or staying with private insurance)…. i think the hope was that this could eventually lead to a single payer system in the end without the political risk of advocating for one now.
i never looked at the details (am not competent to evaluate them anyway) – but the concept appealed to me. if we couldn’t have single payer, at least this plan left the door open and maybe even could help move us in that direction.
Christy has a new post upstairs…
FYI Fitch Revises Outlook of U.S. Health & Managed Care Sector to Negative
This is probably a really stupid question, anyone know where the AMA stands on a single payer system?
Many thanks to the toxic media environment. You could think that the fact that the public debt balloons under Republican rule might sink in eventually
FWIW
Internist society sees single-payer as option
Don’t know- but docs tend to want to get PAID and universal coverage accomplishes that. What they DON’T like is getting paid LESS. They see that docs in europe and Canada have their incomes capped in many cases.
I would also say that most physicians hate dealing with the bureaucratic side of their practices. Single payer would get rid of most of that and that would be a plus. OTOH most doctors are fairly greedy and want to be paid as much as possible.
“although it is borrowed and spent by the government for other purposes. ” THAT is a major problem.
Add to that the fact that the real situation is being hid from ‘the people’ by the accounting method being used by the gummint(cash basis as contrasted to the accural method used by most biz);
Add to that -and BTW, thank you Ian mucho for this posting- this op-ed suggestions re ‘the budget:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..11825.html
And this bit of news: http://www.signonsandiego.com/…..ealth.html
Then add in what the Senate just went through to get the Physicians pay NOT reduced because of the ‘hit’ that the insurers for Medicare Advantage will take and you have a real good idea of how deleterious the whole situation is and how much effort it will take to ‘turn the ship’.
Just caught Contessa Brewer: “Maybe Phil Gramm has a point….”
Yes, Contessa, he has a point for RICH people like yourself.
This is Peterson telling former Gooper CongressCritters – and their Base – not to be afraid. He just built him a whole new campus for the Wingnut Welfare University. Pity about the rest of the country, though.
Let’s focus here….
What is the top income tax rate under current law?
What is the effective rate; i.e. what do folks in the upper brackets actually pay?
What was it in 1965?
What was it in 1996?
What happens when you raise it?
Most here, including from what he says in this post Ian, have guzzled the ‘Taxes is bad…’ Kool-Aide the ReThugs been selling for a long time.
If you are really interested in learning you some economics try these sites:
Angry Bear….great on SS and Healthcare
Economist’s View
The Economic Populist
These are just a few but they’re pretty good. And….
Economics is just as complicated as politics so if something sounds to simple to be right it’s probably wrong.
Of course they are here to “Drown the baby that is the Federal Government!”
No big surprise here. We just have to make sure the American people know what the federal government is spending our tax dollars on. Once they realize that 60 or 70% is on Military related spending maybe they will question the next wacko that thinks it is a good idea to attack a country that has not attacked us.
Nuff said.
I doubt anything can be fixed within the framework of capitalism. Everyone is too busy protecting their turf to accept reasonable change. Capitalism rewards the greedy and the truly insane, the polluters who breathe the same air poor people breathe and drink the same water.
Carl Icahn, the billionaire investor is a case is point. He wants Microsoft to buy Yahoo so he will make hundreds of millions while Yahoo employees find themselves on the street as Microsoft saves by using fewer people to produce the same amount. If Icahn were to live a few years more; if there were something in it for him, I could understand his need for more money. All he does is demonstrate the emptiness inside what will not be filled no matter how many deals he engineers. That we let the likes of him run things, doesn’t say much for our sanity either.