Comments on: FISA: Voting Set To Begin http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:12:01 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: dakine01 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533811 dakine01 Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:41:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533811 <p>Tyr Blue America rather than ActBlue - IIRC, ActBlue supports ALL Dems, including all the Blue Dogs who have helped put us into this mess.</p> <p>Blue America makes a point ot limit support to ONLY progressives who recognize things like the 4th Amendment, Privacy rights, Choice, etc.</p> Tyr Blue America rather than ActBlue – IIRC, ActBlue supports ALL Dems, including all the Blue Dogs who have helped put us into this mess.

Blue America makes a point ot limit support to ONLY progressives who recognize things like the 4th Amendment, Privacy rights, Choice, etc.

]]> By: acerigger http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533786 acerigger Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:33:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533786 <p>“ACT BLUE”,MAYBE A GOOD PLACE TO START A REVOLUTION?? THOUGHTS ANYONE?</p> “ACT BLUE”,MAYBE A GOOD PLACE TO START A REVOLUTION?? THOUGHTS ANYONE?

]]> By: Hmmm http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533723 Hmmm Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:07:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533723 <p>This is a tragic day. But freedom is a constant struggle, and it’s not over yet. </p> <p>Evisceration of the 4th Amendment, ascendence of the Unitary Executive, and dismissal of the Walker cases and the attendant veil of secrecy on the illegal programs they concern, are all NOT FINAL at this point, and none of them will actually take effect until and unless the forthcoming Constitutional challenges to Title II are exercised and fail. Walker has ruled that program illegal, Turley has articulated that this means the President of the US has committed at least 30 felonies. Although the possession of DOJ means any actual Federal prosecution is unlikely, the Emperor’s nakedness is showing. Bush is thus at a very weak point now, and dangerously exposed to challenge, perhaps manipulation.</p> <p>(By the way, what an interesting day for Iran to choose for a ballistic missile capabilities display.)</p> This is a tragic day. But freedom is a constant struggle, and it’s not over yet.

Evisceration of the 4th Amendment, ascendence of the Unitary Executive, and dismissal of the Walker cases and the attendant veil of secrecy on the illegal programs they concern, are all NOT FINAL at this point, and none of them will actually take effect until and unless the forthcoming Constitutional challenges to Title II are exercised and fail. Walker has ruled that program illegal, Turley has articulated that this means the President of the US has committed at least 30 felonies. Although the possession of DOJ means any actual Federal prosecution is unlikely, the Emperor’s nakedness is showing. Bush is thus at a very weak point now, and dangerously exposed to challenge, perhaps manipulation.

(By the way, what an interesting day for Iran to choose for a ballistic missile capabilities display.)

]]> By: siri http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533699 siri Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:59:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533699 <p>that’s a good idea hazmaq. i’m on my over there now to do the same.<br /> i’ll remember you.<br /> we watched the Constitution get trashed together.<br /> everyone here.<br /> we watched the downfall happen in our own Congress. and they all KNEW we did not want this, and they did it anyway.</p> that’s a good idea hazmaq. i’m on my over there now to do the same.
i’ll remember you.
we watched the Constitution get trashed together.
everyone here.
we watched the downfall happen in our own Congress. and they all KNEW we did not want this, and they did it anyway.

]]> By: hazmaq http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533665 hazmaq Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:45:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533665 <p>I’m in Arizona - where the DLC mentality rules. My district couldn’t get rid of Rick Renzi for 3 elections cycles because Raaahhhhhm Emanuel’s DCCC only allowed/supported Renzi-like Democrats.</p> <p>And I think I see now why Webb says NO to Obama for VP. Is it this issue??</p> <p>Just now on the floor Obama is standing with Feinstein and Carper,all pro-FISA. Webb is nearby talking to someone else. The two are blatantly ignoring each other.</p> <p>I’m so sick I just unsubscibed from Obama’s online ‘community’.</p> I’m in Arizona – where the DLC mentality rules. My district couldn’t get rid of Rick Renzi for 3 elections cycles because Raaahhhhhm Emanuel’s DCCC only allowed/supported Renzi-like Democrats.

And I think I see now why Webb says NO to Obama for VP. Is it this issue??

Just now on the floor Obama is standing with Feinstein and Carper,all pro-FISA. Webb is nearby talking to someone else. The two are blatantly ignoring each other.

I’m so sick I just unsubscibed from Obama’s online ‘community’.

]]> By: siri http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533617 siri Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:30:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533617 <p>This is one more thing that has to be undone, repaired, another item on the huge Restoration List.<br /> It’s getting or gotten too long, too deep. I don’t see us every coming back in full form at this point.<br /> The Great Experiment just failed.<br /> I’m heartbroken and now officially a woman without a country.<br /> The one in which I was born is gone.</p> This is one more thing that has to be undone, repaired, another item on the huge Restoration List.
It’s getting or gotten too long, too deep. I don’t see us every coming back in full form at this point.
The Great Experiment just failed.
I’m heartbroken and now officially a woman without a country.
The one in which I was born is gone.

]]> By: pmorlan http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533609 pmorlan Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:28:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533609 <p>Sorry meant to say on the procedural vote for FISA.</p> Sorry meant to say on the procedural vote for FISA.

]]> By: pmorlan http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533604 pmorlan Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:26:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533604 <p>I just watched Obama stroll over and cast his Aye vote for the FISA bill. He then left the floor.</p> I just watched Obama stroll over and cast his Aye vote for the FISA bill. He then left the floor.

]]> By: siri http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533603 siri Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:26:28 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533603 <p>Kucinich - <a href="http://www.c-span.org/Content/PDF/kucinich070808.pdf" rel="nofollow">Impeachment Article to be presented on Thursday night.</a></p> Kucinich – Impeachment Article to be presented on Thursday night.

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533592 Adie Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:20:35 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/07/09/fisa-voting-set-to-begin/#comment-1533592 <p>only this thread.</p> <p>you’ll be back. right?</p> <p>we’re not done.</p> only this thread.

you’ll be back. right?

we’re not done.

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