You need to get off your high horse and go read the reality. The maybe, just maybe you crawl back and thank Suin for trying to make our world more peaceful.

Sorry but you really pissed me off

how unfortunate that the conversation about those we have inflicted so much horror on has ended this way.

(thank you DWBartoo.)

nite all.

We all want very much the same thing, which is the fact. How we each imagine getting ‘there’ is the crux of the dilemma, because we see that differently. I’m not about to disparage or attack any position different to mine and I expect the same of the rest of you ( to put it mildly).

amen DWB. hope you will call me on this one frequently. always good to be reminded.

I wish I could say that hope is just a tidal wave about to innundate us …
but it’s not. And I am sore perplexed when some of the best human beings I’ve ever had the good fortune to encounter in this life are at each other’s sense of things, hammer and tong, but I guess that is just about what war does.

It would help all of us were Obama to act as if he had the brains I hoped (that damned word) he did.

America does need to make critical choices and I don’t know exactly what they should be, and neither does anybody else.

But I thought we were at least agreed upon civility and respect, well I hoped (that damnercd word!!!) so.

Silly me.

We cannot trust each other, or ourselves, to have the patience or clear-headedness to deal with the gravest threat (Bu$h co and his fascist horde)this nation has yet encountered.

If we cannot affect our politicians then they will screw us and fuck our country to hell, then at least, we will all know, beyond a doubt, that we will be in the same boat. I thought we already were.

We all want very much the same thing, which is the fact. How we each imagine getting ‘there’ is the crux of the dilemma, because we see that differently. I’m not about to disparage or attack any position different to mine and I expect the same of the rest of you ( to put it mildly).

But I will venture to suggest, that if our common purpose is insufficient to hold us together, then the chances increase that NONE of us will live to see what we all want.

Obama has made it quite clear that we can all go suck eggs, he has no essential respect for us OR our wisdom AND experience.

For myself, I am very weary of being used and abused, which virtually ALL politicians have embraced as ‘policy’ since I was old enough to vote. And I know I am not alone, in feeling these things.

So? Obama? What else is new?

I want wisdom in my leaders, anything else will.be.fatal.

But more than that I want, and we all need, respect among ourselves, and that means trusting others to make the best choice they may make based on how THEY ’see’ things, AND, we need (and should want) to behave as rational, loving adult human beings in the fucking ‘process’, as we sort through our options, hoping, all of us, to stand for what we care about most.

What do we care about most?

It is getting hard to tell, sometimes.

That said, I salute Norske, selise and Siun. All of whom I respect very much indeed. And, I thank everyone for tolerating the rants and raves we all do so well, most of the time.

Each time someone leaves ( I just learned that Raven, whom I respect and value as a brother, may have departed for good), WE ALL LOSE.

So, this rant of mine is dedicated to Raven and Kiddo and Lahoma. I hope they will understand and forgive my small-mindedness.

Best for your daughter’s success. She sure has a mom to be proud of!