CalorieLab has out their annual "fattest States" and it's no surprise. Folks just keep getting fatter, so much so that they had to change the categories slightly so it wasn't a wash of red, fat, states.
American obesity is something that's really noticeable if you're from out of country. Not that Canada doesn't have its own fatness epidemic, but as in so many things, we just aren't the leaders in the field. Americans are, well, fat. And even Americans who aren't fat are mostly overweight. In fact the numbers on that map really understate things, what I find shocking is that when they add up obese (BMI >30) and overweight (25 to 29.9) there's no State in the union that isn't over 50%. Mississipi, the worst, weighs in at 69.1% combined.
Sure, you can weasel this a bit. BMI does have some problems, and we're all good progressives here who don't like to judge people based on the fact that their packing a few extra pounds *cough*. But it does measure something, and more to the point, it just keeps going up, year in, year out and it has for decades. Americans, or Canadians for that matter, just weren't this fat 30 years ago.
Or even 10.
The first fact I'd push on is the farm bill and the way it subsidizes things like corn syrup production, so that the empty calories in the center aisles of grocery stores; the calories that are bad for you, are much cheaper than healthy lean meat and vegetable calories. The US literally subsidizes crap food that makes people fat. Because no, it isn't just about calories. If you're eating too much sweetened crap, your blood sugar gets messed up and even if you don't wind up an outright diabetic or hypoglycemic, it plays havoc with your appetite. And if you're missing essential nutrients in your diet, your body keeps wanting them and keeps telling you to eat more, in the vain hope you might eat something that isn't crap. Food pollution of this kind doesn't just make Americans fat, it costs them billions in health care costs, and causes untold suffering and misery due to ill-health. And the subsidies go almost entirely to large corporate agribusiness, not to save little family farms, as the myth would have it.
The second problem is the "cult of the car" combined with the "burbification of America". You generally can't walk anywhere useful in the burbs, and even when you can most North Americans still hop in the car to go two blocks, because the streets weren't designed for walking anyway. When I used to work at my last big corporate job I knew people whose entire daily exercise was walking to and from their car. Of course they were unhealthy, out of shape and overweight. How could they not be?
If I were going to pick a third, it would be that people are never really taught how to exercise. Phys.ed gets cut back every year, but those programs that do exist tend to concentrate on team sports instead of teaching students how to do basic strength, cardio and flexibility training—a skill which they could use for life. And for most students, most sports don't raise heart rates enough, long enough, to do any good anyway. So kids who have little natural exercise in their lives, being driven everywhere by their folks, never learn how to exercise and never get into the habit. It's no wonder that as they get older they still don't exercise.
No one should be discriminated against or looked down on because they're overweight. But as a society it is in no one's interest for the population to keep packing on the pounds. Fortunately, while hard to fix, the basic problem is actually fairly clear. Hopefully one of these years we'll be able to fix the farm bill; hopefully pedagogy around exercise will change, and as oil becomes more expensive, hopefully those burbs that survive will be made more friendly to the lowly pedestrian and people will stop turning up their nose at the idea of walking to the store.
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Hi, again, Ian……you are doing it up big time!
Evening, Ian.
Aloha, Ian!
The fattest states are also among the reddest on the EV map.
The burb I live in doesn’t even have sidewalks outside of the subdivision even though there are convenience store less than a mile away. You would be taking your life into your own hands walking there.
corn syrup production, so that the empty calories in the center aisles of grocery stores; the calories that are bad for you, are much cheaper than healthy lean meat and vegetable calories
Maybe with the bee crisis we could pay farmers to grow their own bees. Pay them to stop using chemicals that might be killing bees, the Bush EPA isn’t looking to hard to find a cause so lets just ban them all.
Bees are much more important than the chemical companies to the economy.
Anyway then we use honey to sweeten everything and feed the extra corn to the cows.
Or even the ethanol producers who with high corn prices are having trouble despite high oil prices which should help them.
Well, you know what they’ve always said in Arkansas: “Thank God for Mississippi!”
Still true…………….
The sheer irony of it is, is the fact that the poor can only afford crap… It’d shouldn’t come as a surprise that the poorest state, Mississippi, is the fattest…? Hmmm…?
Let them eat scrapple.
-G
No obesity in my family or in my wife’s family. Some genetic thing, probably, but a lot of exercise freaks. We don’t eat sugar and eat a lot of whole grains, vegetables and fish.
You list important stuff, Ian, but I think even more than the burbs and cars, it is the corn sugar in so much stuff that people don’t even know about - like mayonnaise, for instance. Almost all processed foods.
I had to go to Wal Mart to get something only they had. They had added a food store since the last time I was there. There are so many very obese people lined up to get the cheap pop and other processed food there, they really do need to widen the aisles. All these very wide women there with long skirts and seven or eight kids. The oldest being the most severely obese. Ealry onset diabetes will be one of the next plagues in the USA. It already is in some areas - like Mississippi.
Americans are fat for the same reasons they vote for morons and believe the world is 6,000 years old. They don’t want to know what they’re really doing.
just did mine. That’s a tough scale. I refuse to believe that I have 22.2% body fat.
http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
Lets put a fat based tax on food:)
Hmmm. See my native state (Oklahoma) is in the top tier. No surprise there. Would have been 10 or even 20 years ago. Okie food groups: grease, starch, salt, and beer. If you can’t fry it, they won’t eat it. On the other hand my current home, Montana, is near the bottom. Must be that nobody can afford to eat around here. I certainly am doing my part to raise our ranking.
EV map?
Don’t need no Canadans telling us red-blooded ‘Merikins we’re fat.
Hey, we might be fat — but we’re…. ARMED!
{hi, Ian!}
Empty calories are cheap when I’ve been poor Ramen and Potatoes were the meal. Butter for the potatoes meant that I made extra.
Thanks for this post Ian. To me, this is the unspoken “driver” of a lot of our economic distress in the US. We are killing ourselves with bad food.
The ubiquity of high fructose corn syrup is ruining the palates and health of Americans. And don’t get me started on the long term health and economic implications of the rising rate of diabetes.
My 86 yr.old mother is in fine shape mentally but her late in life obesity has wrecked her quality of life and is killing her. She doesn’t overeat per se but it’s what she eats and that she will not exercise. Medicare pays for her sedentary choices.
Yeah, too little city planning made sidewalks available, safe, or appealing. (And too many sidewalks abut cars going 40+ mph, which is not exactly inviting to pedestrians.)
Huge topic (pun intended).
We could probably eat the carbs if we walked and rode bikes more. But that would require better city infrastructure.
We’re very good at stuff we, personally, can buy and own - chocolates, autos, meals.
But ask someone to pay their portion of a really nicely designed sidewalk with street trees, separated by a grass berm from speeding cars, and they’ll recoil (unless they already live in an affluent suburb, where they expect these amenities).
Why don’t we eat better?
Too tired. And too tempted?
“I had to go to Wal Mart to get something only they had.”
Isn’t that aggravating? They have decimated the locally-owned and smaller-store sectors.
Teddy, yur killin’ me!
Globally…! 8-(
Hmmm the poor are bearing the increased cost of food by being only able to afford the cheap fatty stuff.
After all with two jobs or just lots of overtime fast food does make economic sense because you don’t have the time or energy to cook.
Yup, crap is cheaper. And the more rural you are the harder it is to find good stuff, in general.
You’ll be happy to know that our wonderful gooper mayor got so sick of hearing how fat people are in OKC that he decided to put us all on a diet.
Four for a buck… The original dollar menu…! ;-)
Heheh. There’s just more of you. We have the same number of guns per capita.
Although, admittedly, less automatic weapons.
dugg thanks to tbsa for opening it
YIKES!! Should be ‘too little city planning made sidewalks UNsafe, even when they are available’.
5 for a buck on sale back in the day!
I resemble that remark.
Sad, I think, that the states with problems in health, obesity, education and so forth are all gaga over the Repukes. Is there, ouch!, a correlation? Keep ‘em fat and unhealthy and stupid and we can keep that control for EVER! (Where’s that fatty Rove lurking just this minute?)
When I was real poor the first time I ate almost nothing but potatoes for two months. Besides being the only person I know to ever manage to get scurvy (which the doctor did not recognize, I wound up self-diagnosing) it turned me so off potatoes that I didn’t eat a single one for 2 years.
They were nineteen cents a pound at the local store at the time. And I had less than $20 for the first month, disposable income.
Tho, I think the marketplace’s pendulum has swung back to bite’em in their ample butts… The diversion of corn into ethanol has cut into the corn sweetener industry, just a tad, eh? ;-)
My sister is a HS principal. We were talking this weekend about her having to spring for so many oversized desks. The problem is that she has some kids who are so obese, they break those too. I cannot imagine the adolescent horror of that happening in front of friends.
But one would think that ‘the more rural’ — well, the more likely to grow your own.
Yeah but doesn’t Canada have a much lower gun death rate? Are Canadians really more peaceful…or are obese Americans just easier targets:)
That is going to go over well in Okie land (NOT!).
One thing I noticed in China is that I never saw any fat people. Anywhere. The worst it got was some people who were a bit pudgy. The young people were thin, and only a few middle-aged people were in the thickened category.
We ate a good bit of the local food: it was mostly vegetables and noodles and flavored with meat. We had a squirrel-shaped mandarin fish (think blooming onion, only fish), but mostly, real food, fresh and steamed and braised and cooked in a bit of oil. This is the diet, breakfast, lunch and dinner.
We even ate fast food noodle soup. There are loads of MacDonalds and KFCs, and a few other chains, filled with young people, but the regular restaurants are also filled with the young.
The difference in size was especially noticeable on airplanes, where it seemed like the area available to us was much greater than on US airlines.
Yes, it’s a huge medical cost. And we pay and pay and pay for it. It’s a major reason for rising medical costs (everywhere in the world, the US is just the leading edge of this phenomenon). A friend calls it “food pollution”. We should be subsidizing good food, and taxing lousy food, the same way we do cigarettes. You want a big mac or a pop. It’s not illegal. But it is an expensive treat.
Makes me feel like a real nanny-state liberal to say that, but I just don’t see that we can afford to do otherwise, and if it’s acceptable to subsidize bad food, why shouldn’t it be ok to subsidize good food?
I gave this post a big fat Digg!
LOL. Yes, we do. We have fewer handgungs, fewer automatic weapons and most Canadians who own guns are rural and need them. They aren’t bought for “defense”, at least not defense from humans.
Ian
How do they know these things? Do they go around weighing people or such? I would really like to know.
If Mississippi didn’t exist I think we would have to invent it - has anyone taken a look around their own state? I see people in California who look like they might tip the whole state into the ocean.
Funny…that’s a popular saying in Oklahoma also.
Most “rural” people today actually live in small towns, not on farms. Less than 1% of the population is directly involved in agriculture. For whatever reason the tradition of the household garden, still ubiquitous in many rural areas in my youth, has all but disappeared.
I did the same kind of thing the first time I was broke for a while, except I went for the much healthier brown rice - it was called the “macrobiotic diet” at the time. Comet Brown Rice, 29 cents a box (16 oz.) in the early 70’s.
I have a few observations from Ohio.
1. infants who are fed cereal when they’re a couple months old have a higher tendancy (seems to me) to be fat children and fat adults.
2. stupid rules on playgrounds because schools don’t want to get sued. No running, no playing tag, etc.
3.People who settled here eat potatoes.
And Montana, though we add Oklahoma to the list, too. 8-)
Summer Squash and Potatoes cook in oven add taco seasoning packet or hot peppers for flavor. I think the Summer Squash saved me from scurvy.
Still there are other lack of nutrition related disease that I’m sure affect Americans and I’m sure its poorer Americans getting these diseases more.
This is a semi weird topic its cool but do the righty political blogs ever discuss stuff like this?
I think Americans do work too much. It’s really insane when you look at the hours. No one works more hours than Americans, to the best of my knowledge. It doesn’t leave a lot of time to be fit, healthy, to engage in politics or to join in cultural activities. The price is more than the benefit. And to think, mechanization was supposed to give us more free time. Instead we have people with too much work, people with lousy work, and people with no work.
Aloha, yellow! It’s been awhile…! ;-)
To them it’s all a matter of personal choice, so it’s hard for them to say much except bemoan how people are all individually choosing not to be healthy and to say “but it’s their choice”. Which would be fine, except that the government still pays over 60% of all health costs.
the only time I considered myself poor, I did not own a car and the nearest place to buy food was a pharmacy/convenience store that stocked a few groceries.
that did not work out so well as far as healthy eating, but it didn’t make me fat.
I guess I wasn’t really poor or I wouldn’t have been able to afford the processed foods that I relied on. I did eat Ramen noodles, though.
No running or playing tag? What sort of playground is that? Mind you, we have the same sort of litigation problems, with more “dangerous” playground stuff being taken down, etc…
Mass psychosis. Heinlein said that in this age we were all nuts. Sometimes I think he was right.
Potatoes don’t get me wrong they are good food only eating potatoes is bad.
Here’s a couple of pieces of information that I know. 1) My father was a doctor and moved to the little city that I grew up in, in 1954. People who lived in town worked in factories; people who lived outside of town farmed and one spouse worked in town(back then,the best that dairy farmers in that area could do was 50 cows - no mega dairies then). My father told me that he asked the adults who came into his practice what it had been like during the Depression for them(because he knew what it had been like in New York City). He noticed two things: first, that these folks remembered no lack of food - they were growing their own. They had plenty to eat. Second - they were, in his view “Extremely well fed” - what we would call obese. 2)The closing of the one-room school houses in this area of Upstate New York and the opening of central school districts WITH SCHOOL BUSING took place in the early 1930s. (if Emptywheel were here, I think she’d be starting a time line long about now) 3) The big move toward central schools and building new schools came in the early 1950s - and standards put out by the Association of American School Architects required 25 acres of open land for a central high school. No town or city in America had 25 acres inside city limits for a school - therefore, schools were built on the edges of town or outside of town…and students no longer could walk or bike to school. See any connections?
Ian, you could have thrown in an onion now and then and avoided scurvy.
Ian–my younter son’s grade school had rules: no running on the blacktop, only on the grass. But no running on the grass when it was wet from rain or dew. So basically no running.
Things–i mean, they have potatoes at every dinner. Every day. And bread and butter.
it’s not their choice that they are stuck working a job for minimum wage
Lost a lot of weight - got down to 137 lbs. on that rice diet. Thinnest I’ve ever been. A box lasted a week - 29 cents.
Four and six lane streeets where the signals are barely long enough for a healthy pedestrian without a small child or a cart of groceries to cross. And the stores are far enough apart in my neighborhood that you need a car - the nearest grocery is a mile away, across two of those major streets; the next nearest is closer to two miles, out of convenient walking distance.
No time to cook either, assuming people know how. I’m amazed how many people truly do not know how to make a meal from scratch.
I like brown rice too… I like the nutty flavor… I like to mix white and brown too! Rice is the main staple here in the Isles, spuds are a luxury item…! ;-)
To them it’s all a matter of personal choice, so it’s hard for them to say much except bemoan how people are all individually choosing not to be healthy and to say “but it’s their choice”. Which would be fine, except that the government still pays over 60% of all health costs.
Personal choice is a great excuse to not help others.
I’m sure the GOPers will say that we should let them all die.
But then the GOPers would need more workers and so they would bring in immigrants who through no fault of their own won’t speech the language or know American customs which would anger the GOPers even more.
Who would then complain about the low birth rate as they wonder why more women hesitate to bring more children into the world.
Its the circle of unlife!
Did you have the hoarding of rice there a few weeks ago, like we did here?
Thanks, CT. I’ve been MIA lately.
Haven’t seen Kiddo & Lahoma since I’ve been back.
Nothing serious, I hope.
Yah. I grew up in a boarding school and food had always just been provided in balanced portions. One of those “how could I have been so dense” things, but it just didn’t even occur to me till my hair started falling out and my teeth got loose. In retrospect it’s kind of amusing, even at the time I thought it was kind of funny though I was pretty displeased with my stupidity.
Oh, I agree. But a “conservative” blogger most likely would say it’s personal choice.
Seattle Costco still one big bag of rice per customer.
Didn’t know myself until I was forced to learn in my early twenties. It does take time, but there are ways to make it relatively painless (I used to do a lot of stir fries and slow cooked sters/pot roasts/soups).
I think it happened all over the USA. Can’t remember where I read it, but I did. Lotsa rice on the shelfs at Costco and the Asian food store last week, though.
until recently, my food budget was $100/month. to be honest, cost was the #1 thing i looked at - not if it was good for me. the second thing was how long i could make it last.
Or my sister at least on food, collage girls all seem to think diet, self control you choose to weigh a certain amount.
wow. $100 a month would be a challenge.
I’d have to go with corn, beans and rice. I think that covers all the vitimins and minerals one needs.
I’m amazed how many people truly do not know how to make a meal from scratch.
Umm, no comment.
Seems the rumors of shortages created hoarding which then fulfilled the rumors - real negative spiral. They showed people hauling out 4 or 5 (or more) of the 10 lb. bags at a time. No wonder the limit was imposed.
Infants also drink ‘formula.’ The medical establishment — rant, rant — interfered with natural mothering. Breast fed babies don’t get fat the way formula fed babies do. Breastfeeding moms tend to be more in tune with the needs of their child and more interested in exercise, I think. Our society is all about the big-boobs and shames women into doing the unnatural. The most amazing thing for me, living in hispania-norte-americano, is that young moms almost always buy formula that they couldn’t afford without geneerous subsidy (and probably loaded with corn syrup.) We are, sadly, a very dysfunctional social system. Let ‘em eat grass.
Add chile. Then you get vitamin C. Otherwise, you’re all set.
Yeah, I’ve been there. $100/month is tight. Stews and soups can be used to really eke out the value of meat for a long time. I used to leave a soup or “stew” on the lowest heat for about 3 days and just keep throwing in vegetables and rice and water. Not to everyone’s taste, but I found the flavor quite agreeable.
Stir fries with rice or noodles can also go a really long way, especially if you know how to make a good stir fry sauce.
Meat prices have gone up quite a bit since then, but at least up in Canada you can get huge pork roasts for really cheap, add some vegetables and you’ve got a pot roast that with some freezing/refrigerating can last you for days and days.
I’ve found that I can’t control my weight with diet alone, I need exercise. And the type of food I eat matters a fair bit.
But mostly it’s lifestyle. I never had weight issues till I took an office job and sat on my butt all day.
Actually, a case can sometimes be made for using formula. If women are poor and not getting good nutrition, it can affect the quality of their breastmilk.
Oh, I should also have said - it puts real stress on a woman’s body if she is undernourished and trying to breastfeed.
Even exercise does not seem to be helping me all that much. I am now walking or biking at least 2-3 miles a day and doing 6-10 mile hikes twice a week. Have not lost a pound.
I’ve found that I can’t control my weight with diet alone, I need exercise.
Same here, but backwards. If I don’t work out, I *lose* weight. I lift to keep my weight up.
It’s not just the corn syrup, it’s the fact that it’s GMO corn that the syrup is made from (and the chips, etc.) At least one study in Europe of GMO corn showed a host of problems in animals who ate it. In addition to sugar and junk food, environmental and medical toxins create metabolic problems, of which obesity could be a symptom. Doctors are finding high rates of metabolic dysfunction in autistic children who presented with regression following vaccines. 90% of the flu shots in this country contain 25mg of mercury, enough to disrupt body processes. Aluminum in vaccines has been linked with motor neuron death and Gulf War syndrome. HHV6 virus has been linked to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and MS. Maybe instead of simply blaming lifestyle changes, we need to be studying the metabolic and genetic effects of our toxic environment and our overly Pharmacized culture.
I rode school buses in Texas. Walked to school in CA previously. Had the BEST school lunches in both places. (My mom was no cook, I’m tellin’ you.) Wonderful bean soup on Fridays in CA (lots of Catholics.) Unbelievable veal cutlets and chicken pot pie and sloppy joes and greens and stuff in TX. I ate better at school than at home. And everyone played sports (girls had to play tennis or be on the drill team or cheer — no other choices in those olden days). A fat kid was an anomaly and everyone was sorry for them. Gym class was ’silly’ but we all got a regular workout in our little bloomer shorts (and, no, I am not ancient!) But my own children also were active…and fat kids in their schools were also felt sorry for. Where I now live ….well, shocking. The obese child is the norm.
I thought there was vit. C in corn. No?
I’ve been missing their witty repartee, too…! (((OKK & Lahoma))) 8-(
Health like anything takes knowledge, the free time to do it and effort.
I’m still working on it. Still the more perfect the less tolerant of others the less fortunate.
Scratch that the more perfect you think you are the less tolerant you are of others less fortunate…and the more blind you are to your own faults the more sensitive you are to others faults.
Tsk, tsk… a rudiment art…! ;-)
I don’t know, I just remember hearing that NM had very little malnutrition during Depression due to diet high in chile, corn and beans.
I used to be thin. Not skinny. 5′4″ and 130 lbs. After menopause I now weigh 165 lbs. We eat everything fresh. Nothing fried. Nothing out of a can or box except tomato sauce. Ron makes our bread. I lost ten pounds a couple of years ago and no matter what I did I couldn’t lose more. Recently, I started to “self medicate” with food cause of stress. It worked. I am fat and obsessed with food.
Its better to be chunky and have muscle tone than be thin without muscle tone.
How creative ya can be at the same time, M’dear…! ;-)
The only thing I’ve found that works is portion control and counting calories. Can’t do it with just exercise. Not saying it doesn’t help, but not alone.
No. Corn is actually a very poor food source. Much inferior to wheat rice, millet, etc. You have to eat it in combination with beans and chiles, tomatoes, or other vegetables. Native Americans survived on it because they treated it with alkalai (lye or lime) to make hominy and had very diverse diets to supplement the corn base.
yes, things were more active for kids thirty/forty years ago. In many school districts, between budgets and “NCLB” recess does not exist, gym class might be once a week. Basically, kids sit all day long, just as we do at our desk-based jobs. Then, the kids are bused home and many sit in front of computers, with their books, or in front of the tube for hours afterwards. they are many times fed convenience foods at school (chicken ‘tenders’ anyone?)in the school lunch programs.
BMI has problems. I was categorized as “overweight” by the BMI on my last doctors visit (6′, 190 lbs — ideal is 185). My 5-point skin-fold body fat measurement was 7%, so I am anything but “fat”.
Fit and very fit males can easily get put into the overweight category just by doing regular weight training. In football, many professional running backs would be considered obese (6′, 230 lbs), even though they have sub-5% body fat and bench press 400+ lbs .
BMI is sort of crap, but it’s easy to gather this data for a population (height and weight = bmi). Attaching labels to the ratio has so many assumptions built into it, that all you can really say about BMI is that it measures the ratio of height to weight. It certainly doesn’t measure “fat”. If you want that, do skin fold measurements.
Well when good times come again just remember to try and get healthy again. Heck I’m still working on it.
you know, all those obese states. they are the same ones that Obama has trouble with.
clinging to their corn syrup and tatos.
That was not true in Oklahoma, Missouri, and Arkansas, but then they did not eat chiles. In the Ozarks, farmers had to sell most of their eggs, dairy, meat, and produce to pay taxes, buy clothes, and all the other things they needed to live. Chronic malnutrition was rampant. It scarred my mother for life with an impaired immune system.
I think lina’s point was today’s corn is worse.
I have read that plastics can memic hormones and hormones can effect weight.
I gained weight — 30 pounds in like six weeks — the second time I was put on hormones. (First time, when I took the pill in 1970, when hormone levels were 10X as high now, I gained 10 pounds practically overnight, but quit pretty fast because I was also having fainting spells.)
The third time I was put on hormones (to correct my metabolism, that had been screwed up by the first, I was told by a doctor) well, again, I gained another 30 pounds in about a month.
Pounds that have been almost impossible to peel off, no matter the diet or exercise. (In fact, I became wretchedly ill on a low-fat, vegetarian diet — too many carbs.)
How does this relate to the topic? Cattle have been routinely shot up with hormones for how many decades? So meat, and most milk, has been laced with hormones (hence the trend of 5th grade girls sprouting breasts). It seems to me that obesity in the United States has followed the rise in a combination of factors: a balanced diet being replaced with high carbohydrates, high fructose corn syrup, over-long work, computer, hormone-laced meat and milk, the birth control pill, video-game hours, hormones dealt out like mints to menopausal women (and for a variety of other reasons — two generations of American women have been guinea pigs for hormones.)
i’m coming in at 20.3, which means that if it wasn’t for me, texas would be tipping over to the dark side.
When I was a kid no southern Sunday breakfast was complete without scrapple. The Soul Food of the 70’s was nothing more than food familiar to all southern working class and poor, regardless of colour.