One of the so-called "improvements" in the pending FISA "compromise" bill is that the bill has language which purports to make FISA the exclusive means by which the executive branch can conduct foreign intelligence surveillance.
I always thought this claim was laughable because, since its inception, FISA has always been the exclusive means by which the executive branch can conduct foreign intelligence surveillance.
So, when you hear some Congress critter, or more recently General Election Candidate Obama, try to tell you that it's OK to gut the 4th Amendment, stare decisis, and judicial branch independence in order to reap the "improvement" of FISA exclusivity you should laugh derisively at that person because clearly any fool saying that has either not read the bill...
Or is lying.
Or both.
Go read EFF's "Mythbuster" article which lays it out so clearly.
Glennzilla has a whopping good article up which goes into this in great detail, so I will wait here while you go read it.
[LHP hums tune to self while waiting.] Are you back yet?
The New York Times is reporting a recent decision by Judge Walker, who now has the consolidated multi district telcom litgations all on his desk.
A federal judge in California said Wednesday that the wiretapping law established by Congress was the “exclusive” means for the president to eavesdrop on Americans, and he rejected the government’s claim that the president’s constitutional authority as commander in chief trumped that law.
-snip-
“Congress appears clearly to have intended to — and did — establish the exclusive means for foreign intelligence activities to be conducted,” the judge wrote. “Whatever power the executive may otherwise have had in this regard, FISA limits the power of the executive branch to conduct such activities and it limits the executive branch’s authority to assert the state secrets privilege in response to challenges to the legality of its foreign intelligence surveillance activities.”
Judge Walker’s voice carries extra weight because all the lawsuits involving telephone companies that took part in the N.S.A. program have been consolidated and are being heard in his court.
Emptywheel also pointed this out yesterday.
Yet in a reply to all those THOUSANDS of active Obama supporters who created a stop the FISA bill group on the Obama campaign website, General Election Candidate Obama stonewalls his decision to reverse the postion he took when he was Primary Candidate Obama with this pathetic justification:
But I also believe that the compromise bill is far better than the Protect America Act that I voted against last year. The exclusivity provision makes it clear to any President or telecommunications company that no law supersedes the authority of the FISA court.
You can read his complete statement over at EW's.
Oh, and this little nugget in Obama's statement, is pure falsehood: "Given the choice between voting for an improved yet imperfect bill, and losing important surveillance tools, I've chosen to support the current compromise."
FISA is still a live statute. If this bill does not pass, or is vetoed, FISA warrants will continue to be issued, as they have always been upon a showing of probable cause in an application to a FISA judge. There is no loss of ability to go get a warrant. None. Zero.
What will expire is the current bandaid legislation which allowed basket warrants without a showing that there is probable cause to spy on any of the individuals in the basket. So, follow along with me. The proposed legislation guts key provisions of the Bill of Rights, Constitution and rule of law and the supposed benefits of this bill are already in existence.
No net gain. Worse, not even signifigant mitigation offsets to at least diminish the harm.
More on this ruling from EFF.
And even more from Threat Level at Wired.
There's a lot more in Judge Walker's decision than just reaffirming that FISA has been exclusive all along, but I really want to point out IN ADVANCE OF THE SENATE VOTE, that all of the reasons being advanced for why there are, ahem, "improvements" in this bill are basically bullshit (one or two really non controversial technical things not withstanding).
In short, there is not only no reason for this bill, there is no excuse for it.
[Huge hat tip to Redd, who basically handed me all of her link research when I said I intended to write on this topic. She is so generous, which allowed me to be so lazy.]
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Keep it up; obviously the attention of Obama is critical. Thanks
Put me down for “both.”
IANAL, but I’d say that Judge Walker does not suffer fools gladly. This is a tasty Fourth of July treat.
I was flabbergasted by his response to his own supporters. They are trying to lead him back onto the right path and he literally said “if this is a dealbreaker. That’s OK”
Not only is he doing the wrong thing, he seems to be trying to dare his own followers to abandon him. Just crazy
I was always rather fond of the Fourth Amendment. Can we keep it please?
“exclusive”
wait, wait…
it’s a “tell” - right?
Up the flag .. down telecom immunity .. jail to scofflaws .. curse the political borg of all stripes ..
bulldung abounds ..
What tune did you hum while you waited?
Jus Cogens!
sonny’s a proud member of EFF, bumper sticker & all. his ma’s soooo proud!
are you a hummer?
Judge Walker is obviously one of those ”activist” California liberal judges!
(Appointed by the Decider’s father.)
I am in the middle of my Senate phonecalls. I am leaving late night, toll free switchboard voicemails, pleasantly wishing them a Happy 4th and then firmly explaining my issues with FISA and also my dismay (firmly) over the $400 million “gang of 8″ handover to Bush for covert Iran operations at the end of 2007. I am calling both Dems and Republicans. It is cathartic, though maybe it is like talking to the proverbial wall. I figure our numbers may help. (As for BO, I am somewhere among the 5 stages of grief.)
I think it’s “Both” too.
Back when the Patriot Act was being passed, I did a series of lectures to HS students as part of my local bar association’s “lawyer in the Classroom” program. It compared the Patriot Act with existing national security laws already on the books and essentially the point of the lecture was that, except for some technical updates to account for changes in cellphone technology, every thing that the Congress critters were claiming they were doing with the Patriot Act, we could already do under existing law.
The only real value of the Patriot Act was it debunked Jamie Goerelick’s stupid as shit “wall” memo. The rest of it was redundent, or not as effective as existing tools in statutes already on the books.
Last week while seaching for something else among
the snowdrifts of papers all over my officemy files, I came upon my outline for that lecture series.I think very few Members of Congress could pass the same quiz on this topic that those HS kids would be able to ace.
How freakin sad is that?
The senate offices may be closed for the weekend, but their email systems are still functioning for those who want to get in a quick word via the toobz.
It’s been a few days since Senator McCaskill has heard from me, and thanks to LHP, I’ve got some nice new items to mention to her.
It’s sad, though, that these things have to be pointed out to a former prosecutor.
the Notre Dame fight song
They are trying to lead him back onto the right path and he literally said “if this is a dealbreaker. That’s OK”
That one blew me away too.
Kinda like “for all of you who got me the Democratic presidential nomination - thank you. You will, I hope, understand that your services are no longer needed - but thanks again. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have a brand new list of phone numbers that I gotta call.”
Morning, all. Happy 4th!
Guess he thinks that those of us who are aware enough to object are also aware enough to realize the damage another four years of rethug rule would do. Sadly, he’s right (IMO).
He’ll still get my vote, but not one thin dime.
i think what he is doing is
1) nuts
2) self destrucive
3) completley unnecessary. Ahem, polling shows that he does not need to tack right to get elected, all but 16% want the country to go in a new direction. Duh!
Busted! Honey just brought in a foot-tall pile of papers that had been sorted into piles for filing - thinks i oughtta go thru ‘em and do something with them promptly.
Just luvs it when e’s in hepful action mode, best when there’s warning aforehand.
Bye pups. Off to RE-sort, file, shred, recycle.
Rinse, repeat.
Moving, after 35 yrs in the only house ya ever owned, is a good thing sometimes. It’s the GETTING there that’s hard. Ooogh!
Love ya pups. Over & out.
Very.
So how about we see if Feingold or Dodd would bring you to Capitol Hill, to give a remedial course to the distinguished members of the Senate of the United States of America. Or perhaps someone should ask Schumer or Clinton, as they are your senators.
Of course, if you’d just run for Congress, we wouldn’t need to get them to give you an invitation . . .
*g*
Go Gators!
Thank you to LHP and ReddHead for laying this bare for the laymen readers. I was over at the Obama blog last night and there are a fair number of “dunderheads” makeing the case that Senator Obama is somehow in the right of this issue and everyone should just trust him as he walks on water to make it all better and maybe he knows something we stupid people don’t and it’ll all be ok.
Well, it’s that kind of blind allegiance to an authoritarian principal that got most of the conservatives in trouble with George W. Bush and it is completely disheartening to me to see the same sort of foolishness displayed in a supposedly “progressive” campaign. That isn’t progressive thought, that is entirely regressive (queue the freaky John McCain/Peter Lorre voice over: “That’s not change we can believe in, my friends.”)
The progressive movement and Democratic party has its own set of issues, to be sure, but I always imagined that the where primarily problems of too many creative people with too many competing progressive ideas; a problem of focus rather than blinding myopia. It depresses me to see that there are aspects of the collective lemming mind embodied by the conservative political movement which leech into progressive memes. It bothers me a lot!
When Mr. Obama takes the oath of office next January (as I believe he will), he will promise first and foremost to uphold the Constitution. Opposing this FISA legislation would have been a good start. Now, not so much. Consequently, my intention to continue contributing to the campaign is not so much, either.
Am I wrong?
Not for nuthin’ but he ain’t the nominee yet. The convention has not happened. As long as he is sure of your vote, you’re neutered.
Normally, you would expect some sense of shame to remind him to dance with the one what brung him, but failing that, maybe a threat of a floor fight?
I really don’t undrstand what he is doing. This tack to the right thing is SOOOOO counterintuitive this cycle
dam
Littleprop and I are still househunitng. Oh how I dread having to sort things for the move!
Exactly. Americans want a leader who can demonstrate some backbone, the willingness to take a stand even if it’s not very popular. I think he has done a lot of damage to his campaign with his recent triangulating, and not only among his liberal base.
That said, I want to remind everyone yet again that he has always been pretty open about being a centrist. We knew what we were getting, or should have.
Thank you for your update. The clarity makes this FISA fog machine all the more crazymaking. Here is part of what I posted recently about my issues with BO:
not fun. good luck to you and THANK YOU for your incredibly valuable work.
You are very special.
((((looseheadprop and littleprop))))
Digg this
lhp — Greenwald did a point by point critique of the Obama response, but it’s posted at his UT documents page, not Salon.
But moving is permission to finally toss some things. Instead of saying where am I gonna put this, you say, Is this something I can use in my new house/life. Very different way of sorting, and you’ll have a fresh start. Or fresh palatte, as a friend of mine likes to call it :)
Oh, I don’t need hugs. We are both very excited about moving. Littleprop has so many idea for decorating her new room that I can’t keep track of them all.
She is going totally 1960’s anti war hippie with it. Wanted futon on the ground –I drew the line at the lamp made from bang–she does have a lava lamp though.
But the packing and sort will just be tedious work
here is the digg for that:
http://digg.com/2008_us_electi.....nt_on_FISA
I’m almost afraid to look. Did Glenzilla leave any flesh on the eviscerated carcass?
Fixed the link, thanks Scarecrow. I think that’s your second essential save of the morning.
Especially when he ran as a different kind of candidate - not a normal politician. He’s opened himself up to charges of pandering and not really standing for anything. McSame (of all people) will go after him and the MSM will eat it up.
libby:
Yeah, the MSM are jumping all over him. They’re almost enough to make me want to stick up for his sorry ass.
Did you hear the way Joe Scarborough and the other wingnuts went after Rachel Maddow on MSNBC last night? Wingnut Joe asked for one of his silly show-of-hands whether anyone agreed with Rachel. She laughed it off but I know she was pissed. That dude is a world class asshole.
I’m one of those sentimental types that never throws anyting away. I don’t really take or keep many phots, I keep things that remind me of the pictures in my mind
Another take on all this for those so inclined:
http://narcosphere.narconews.c.....rt-dissent
Hey, lhp, wishing you a smooth move.
About the FISA thingie? You know, we Americans have tiny little attention spans and not much interest in all this technical legal stuff. Could ya just educate us with a one minute cartoon, maybe with a Michelle Malking voice-over?
Oh boy Scarecrow,
Glenn ginsued him right and proper.
m-a-l-k-i-n
urgh
Thank you for this. Think I will forward Glenn’s explanation to my network with my last plea to call Senators. Greenwald is so clear and matter of fact and droll as h*ll.
But he really nails Obama’s political double-talk promise later (one more executive branch “trust me” …. please …. how dare he after the years of Bush?):
Interesting what’s going on with the young people today. My 13 year old granddaughter wants everything with a peace sign on it and all her t-shirts have to say something about peace not war. It’s really fascinating.
Here’s what I think (prepare to be shocked and awed). I think that the Repugs should be required to be part of a mustering-out ceremony wherein they are stripped of their little flag pins. Then, the only way they can earn those shiny little things back is by being Constitution-boarded, mercilessly. You heard it here first.
[Mod: please don’t advocate violence, even in jest.]
The lunacy is that he is bringing all this upon himself. He had a winning formula, people were buying his positions on issues (even the screwed up health care plan) all he had to do was stick with those platform planks. It was a winning platform.
Why he thinks he needs to fix what ain’t broken is beyond me.
No kidding. I assume it’s because he’s being HANDLED. Tell ‘em to back the hell off!
I was present in St. Paul the night his numbers took him over the top re HRC. And ever since then, he has morphed into something over-handled, kinda like yeast dough that has been pummeled so hard it can no longer rise. I’ll shut up now. Too. Much. Coffee.
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Offer the Senate your class. In whatever form they might be amenable to taking it.
Politcians are only handled if they allow themselves to be.
Whether Obama is allowing himself to be handled or is showing his true self is basically irrelevant at this point. Those are his words now and his positions and he has to live with the ramifications of taking those positions.
It’s rather scary to me that Obama’s positions are actually making Bob Barr seem like a viable choice.
LHP, you are so right.
There’s an old tale about how a certain type of monkey was captured for zoos. The captors placed yummy nuts in a large but small mouthed jar and when the monkey put his paw in, he was so greedy and tried to grasp so many of the enticing nuts he could not pull his overflowing paw out and just stayed there dismayed and stuck. All it had to do was release some of the nuts to find freedom, but it couldn’t savvy that.
RF, I sure did hear that on the radio (between tvs at moment). I was so proud of her for telling him that Obama was not flip-flopping on the Iraq thing. She had to be punished. Rachel won’t join lock-step with the group — has a critical and original mind.
Why wasn’t Rachel the moderator? I cringed when I heard it was JS. And then the day before was it JS humiliated was it John Harwood for talking too long. And wouldn’t let go of it but kept referring to him henceforth. Ouch. Rachel kept her cool. To me she is the voice of sanity, no matter what direction the wind is blowing most of those other bobbleheads.
On Wed we had a BBQ to celebrate Littleprop’s graduation from an 8 year parochial school. Almost every kid there had some piece of jewelry or a tee shirt or something with a peace sign on it.
Many of the gifts she received had an antiwar message.
These kids give me hope
Bottomline is Obama thinks he has all of us by the ’short hairs’ as -to him, and probably the Dem ‘leadership’- the choice is between him and McCain and he also-in his latest response- throws the ‘fear bomb’ of what if McSame is elected.
Personally, I’m send Joe Galloway’s column to Feinstein and Obama (I know Boxer will vote against passage of the bill):
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/hom.....43123.html
ALL the Senator’s should have his oped thrust in their faces.
Give lots to charity. Then you don’t have to pack it, unpack it, put it somewhere. Helps on the taxes too!
You’re in a good market to be buying.
As far as Obama goes, I would expect him to do a speech explaining why this bill isn’t needed in the way he did his race speech after the Jeremiah Wright blow-up. I don’t believe that most people want this legislation, even the less informed among us…
About the only positive thing I can give Joe Scar is that he actually followed through on his promise to serve only (I believe it was) three terms in Congress.
He cut down on the damage by keeping his promise.
I was expecting a centrist. Which was bad enough, from my perspective. But now that he’s backing down on what he previously said on FISA and Iraq and, just for additional annoyance, to want to fund religious organizations that do God’s work and the gubmint’s. I. Am. Not. Amused. I have not run to get a yard sign, to contribute $ or to volunteer for the campaign. I, too, am in the 5 stages of grief. The stage I’m in right now is “That bastard!”
I’m picturing in my mind that scene from Mary Poppins where they put Mr. Bank’s umbrella inside out and puch thruogh his bowler hat.
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I don’t know, it might be too advanced for them. After all, it was meant for HS students. *snark*
Filleted, julienned, minced, shredded, and finely diced. Does Glenn own a Bass-O-Matic that’s been retrofitted for members of Congress?
Reading Glenn’s piece and this one *really* makes me wonder about the staff in Obama’s senate office and in his campaign office. Either the legislative staffers can’t read basic legislation, or they don’t communicate effectively with the folks who do the press relations.
They ought to try reading the bill and not the RNC talking points.
What is going on…The Dem Presidential campaign is turning into a slow motion train wreck. Throwing “Mental Health” of the woman under the Bus was the last straw for me.
Is it better to learn a candidate doesn’t give a shit about the Constitution before or after they are elected?
I think this was good to learn before. Now is the only time the people will have any ability to CHANGE the way a candidate functions. Once elected, our voice no longer matters to most.
He wants to be the candidate of CHANGE? Well let’s see it. Let’s see if he can admit a mistake, like he bashed his opponents for, about the choice to go to war. The can be no doubt he is wrong to the core about this issue, but feels he has more to gain by moving to the EXTREME RIGHT to peel of a few of the ill informed. He must be told, loudly, that those few to be gained are far less than what could be lost by not taking the correct stand.
There isn’t a bigger test a candidate could be forced to take before being chosen President. Stop telling him you will still vote for him, but will be upset about this choice.
TELL HIM IF HE CAVES ON THIS, HE LOOSES YOUR VOTE….PERIOD! You don’t even have to mean it. It’s just a little lie back to a pol to get what we want for a CHANGE.
Obama’s justification for supporting the FISA debacle is just plain sad. How can a supposedly educated man come up with such drivel? Maybe he is not so smart after all, or maybe he is just another calculating politician, but either way he is not suitable presidential material.
The only thing worse than his statement is the pathetic bleating of his herd. They are worse than the Bush supporters way back when he was running the first time. No candidate should ever be elevated to such heights of worship and adoration.
Thanks, bonkers. I want to trust this thinking on the Al Giordano link … but I also believe that many who can talk the talk, are not close to walking the walk… and I was looking for a strong walker in Obama. But I liked this closing paragraph and found comfort and hope in it.
THAT is a great editorial. Really cogent
OT but… From Denis Kucinich a petition to put Impeachment back on the Table
PUT THE CONSTITUTION ON THE TABLE
what difference does it make? gwb ignored the law for 4-5 years, so the judge says that FISA always had the power. BFD. gwb took what he wanted, and did what he wanted and no one in power said BOO. gwb has 199 days left. It just don’t matter. In the overall scheme of things, how does this ruling effect what gwb has done/or is still doing? Whoever becomes the next prez, will have the power that gwb stole from congress-with their willing support-do you think that the next prez will give it back? The giants that we had in congress back in the 70’s must be rolling in their graves over what the current spineless bunch is doing.
Greenwarrior comment #59, you think that maybe shrum & co, or the DLC snuck under the curtain of Obama’s campaign and convinced him that they knew what the truth was and that he better follow their agenda??
He is like those failed actors who become agents who are so MEAN and OVER THE TOP CRITICAL to earnest actors. He is an ex-politician who now gets to skewer all politicians with his last word on everything.
It’s just such a bad policy deicision AND (imho) a terrible politcal decision.
Obama loses so much more than he could possibly gain, and gets bad karma to boot!
Yesterday, unsolicited and inexplicably, I received a 19 page folder - ATT Residential Service Agreement (my land line is ATT - use it for dial-up).
Extensive provisions relating to mandatory arbitration leaped out. Of course, the agreement provided they could unilaterally modify it at any time. Explanation for why it was sent cited (non-specific) changes in regs. Something’s worrying them..
Anyone else get one?
Dare him to find out if you are bluffing.
I must have somehow missed that one. What did he say? And did he actually throw us 60’s hippies all under the bus as well?
I want to give a shout out to all my Firepup homies.
Happy Fourth of July!
I have vowed not to change my attitude one bit.
Fuck this administration and the snakes they rode in on.
PASS THE AMMUNITION AND KEEP AFTER “EM!
Channeling Norske jest a bit.
Treat them as you would any special ed class.
I just want to set the record straight here. As gobsmacked shocked as I am about Obama’s statement to his own supporters telling them if they don’t like his support for the FISA bill they can take their crappy votes and go home
And I am shocked to see a candidate say that. I mean who trades a vote in the hand for a possible vote in the bush? stupid, stupid, stupid
It’s not just Barry the Privacy Slayer who deserved our wrath. It’s every member of the Seante who is going to vote for this bill.
And it’s Steny Hoyer and Nacy Pelosi for allowing this abomination to ever be put on paper. It’s Jello Jay for begging for it.
I can’t figure it out - even looking from a crass political vantage point. If the average person doesn’t understand FISA, why go to all this trouble to piss off the liberal base? If FISA reverted back to its 1976 self, who would notice? Was he afraid of the potential of the “soft on terrorism” label? If it’s all crap, why not make up your own crap about fighting terrorism? Invent and peddle your own narrative. Why not?
I don’t get it.
It is disturbing to see Dems, progressives and Obama supporters clutching so quickly and eagerly to the “we gotta elect Obama and not McCain” mentality like it is the first “either/or” in the queue. First, let’s make sure we bring the “better” Obama rather than the “worse” Obama.
I want to believe that issues can continue to be discussed, debated and argued for a while yet. I want the candidates to step up with argument and evidence on issues. Is it too much to ask that our pundits and TV talking heads do a little bi-partisan bullshit detecting and call a platitude a platitude and a political value a political value? Is it too much to ask that candidates lead by refusing to distill their thoughts and positions to soundbites? I don’t know when the American public became such wienies when it came to political debate. Hopefully we can show we deserve more than we are being handed by demanding more.
Certainly having blogs like this help. Keep it up.
Obama then added: “Now, I don’t think that ‘mental distress’ qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term.”
http://ap.google.com/article/A.....gD91MLKF00
It’s bad enough that he throws key positions of pro-choice under the bus…but what really pisses me off is his contempt and dismissal of “mental distress”.
(I know Boxer will vote against passage of the bill):
Yes, I’ve been in touch with her office a few times over the last two weeks. Boxer doesn’t support the FISA bill and she supports the Dodd amendment.
A very large segment of this country is mollified by a Presidential candidate who makes the “Lefty’s” howl.
And being small, and not yet having fully informed those potential voters about usurpations of the Constitution, the destruction of institutions at DOJ, and all the other things we have lost to ChimpCo, we don’t rate as something Obama needs to be wary of.
It’s our job to prove him wrong.
http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/691203.html
He said that mental distress could not justify late term abortion. Mental health of the mother doesn’t count , only physical health.
My eyes almost fell out of my head
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? I’ve missed you. And where is LS?
Obama through the looking glass: “I have said it thrice: What I tell you is three times true”. Who are we to question his truth, his campaign or his presumed Presidency?
How about a coup at the Convention?
I understand the (perceived) value of publicly pissing off the left, but why choose an issue that most people don’t understand?
Thanks for the link. Another position he’s changed lately.
Like I said, it just stupid on his part. Does he really think he will peel off more swing voters than he will certainly lose of previously committed voters?
Thanks so much for the Joe Galloway column. Wow.
I was listening to a radio interview with Chris Hedges about his new book Collateral Damage, about the Iraqi civilian casualties. He was describing how raids were made on neighborhood houses when there were insurgent sabotages. The trauma for the people. The wrongful arrests made. The homes torn apart.”
Then, when I read this powerful article about “search and seizure” 4th amendment rights, I realized even more profoundly what this administration and the complicit Congress is stripping us of, and what our presumptive nominee is willing to strip us of. I was indignant for the Iraqis and our always-on-the-defensive soldiers having to perpetrate such horrifying behavior. But reading the following in your linked article made me think of our own homes and security:
***
This was the most powerful paragraph for me in the article:
Well, if you’re looking for a public display of rejecting the fire breathing liberals, what better place than a ruckus at the convention?
My supposition for an answer to your question is the DEM’s STILL are scared of being portrayed as ’soft on terror/defense’; and yes, they will be AS LONG AS THEY ALLOW THE FRAMEWORK BY WHICH SUCH IS DISCUSSED TO BE SET BY THE REPUBS’; THAT is the MAJOR failing of the DEM ‘leadership’.
As an example, defense expenditures for equipment of absolutely no use in fighting guerrilla warfare.
It’s gotta be that he’s covering some asses. Pelosi and who elses?
I think it’s precisely because it’s so misunderstood - lends itself to misinterpretation by design. Word-pictures are powerful, and the Goopers have made good use of them. And if we didn’t have a cowardly Dem Congress, they might stand up and educate some people. But they run from the grisly word-pictures, as intended.
My theory is that Obama cut a deal with Jello Jay Rockefeller back in the primary days- Obama agrees to support, or at least not strongly oppose, FISA capitulation after the primaries are over, in return for Jello Jay’s endorsement and support that would help minimize the pounding that Obama was going to receive in West Virginia. I think it is reasonable to assume that Obama justified the sell-out as something that was necessary to win in a close primary contest.
I hope this isn’t true, but I can’t really think of another semi-logical explanation for this 180 degree turn-around.
Now, of course, the sell-out means that the Democratic party gets to be “unified” and “moving to the middle” according to the inside-the-beltway Broder ™ logic, which obviously Obama now desperately wants the endorsement of in his no Red State left behind strategy.
Doing a lot of traveling…The Hopium got a little to thick for me here at FDL..Had a lung ca removed from my right lung two weeks ago…etc.
Exactly. If he wanted to do that merely P/O the left, he could have supported easing environmental restrictions with respect to energy produciton. Then he would have seemed like he cared about the pain ordinary people are feeling at the pump, made a bucket of new friends at the Chamber of Commerce and big industry AND had all of us howling.
Pissing off the Sierra Club would be the Holy Grail of tacking to the right of center–and it would have helped him with his aloofness problem.
Best of all, no gutting of Constitution and when in office he could just fail to implement the bad policy.
There are lots of ways he could publicly flip the bird to the left w/o irretrievably destroying Constitutional rights
Not that I’m anything special, but I have been saying for years that everything the Bush Admin and Congress has been doing is a victory for Bin Laden and ‘terrorism’(as defined by the U.S.; people rebelling against their land being occupied are ‘terrorists’, not ‘freedom fighters’).
And Bin Laden indicated he would bankrupt us and the Congress and Bush Admin are doing just that.
Blue Texan is upstairs!
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