And as you can see from the video at right — a slideshow I put together over the weekend at camp, with a soundtrack featuring sounds I recorded — it was something of a close encounter. It was the kind of experience that makes you wonder why we’re searching for intelligent life on other planets when you have it in your own backyard.
It was also the kind of experience that makes you realize how we puny humans — because believe me, we are puny compared to orcas, as you realize when you meet them up close — hold their life-and-death fate in our thoughtless little hands.
We were simply sitting atop a kelp bed in our kayak — me and Lisa and Fiona — about 300 yards from shore when a pod of about 30 orcas (mostly the K pod) swam by on both sides of us.
I’d dropped a hydrophone down into the bed and Fiona and I listened in as they approached and then swam past. The most audible sounds, as you can hear, are their calls, which are seemingly how they communicate; the other sounds, much more subtle but almost as common, are the rat-a-tat-tat of their echolocation, which is how they see for dozens, perhaps hundreds, of yards underwater.
It’s also how they locate their prey — which, for these orcas, consists almost entirely of chinook salmon. They riddled the kelp bed with echolocation because they like to chase fish into and out of them, while only coming up around its edges. They also, as you can see, seemed to like draping themselves with kelp leaves and fronds.
Listening to them it was clear that, through both their calls and their sonar, they were working hard to find salmon. This year has reportedly been better than in years past. Yet the day after we saw these orcas, they headed out west into the open Pacific to try to find salmon there and were gone for the next four days.
These orcas are an officially listed endangered population, and the main reason is the salmon. NOAA’s official recovery strategy, in assessing threats to the whales, lists "prey availability" as the top item. And things have become dire — particularly elsewhere along the entire Pacific Coast.
The collapse of the California chinook runs resulted in an emergency suspension of the fishing season. The annual Yukon River chinook runs "just didn’t show up."
While overfishing almost certainly is playing a role in this, it appears likely that a lot of the blame lies with a phenomenon that caused the 2005 collapse of the Pacific Ocean’s coastal food web, in which thousands of sea birds died and likely killing the chinook that went to sea that year:
NOAA Fisheries Service oceanographer Bill Peterson said Monday the juvenile salmon that left their native rivers and entered the Pacific Ocean in 2005 found little food being transported by the California Current, which flows from the northern Pacific south along the West Coast.
The reason was that the jet stream had shifted to the south, delaying the spring onset of winds out of the north that create a condition known as upwelling, which kickstarts the ocean food web by stirring the water from bottom to top, the agency said.
“If there is no upwelling, there is no phytoplankton growth, no zooplankton growth, and basically you have no food chain that develops, because it all depends on the upwelling,” Peterson said from Newport.
Along with the upwelling issue — and likely related to it — is concern about the acidification of the ocean and its similarly toxic effects on the fish. And what a lot of scientists suspect — but can’t yet prove — is that all these changes are related to the larger phenomenon of global warming.
So listening to the killer whales as they passed by us that day was a bit like listening to the canaries in the coal mines and realizing that they are in trouble — not their immediate extinction, but a gradual one. And it’s happening because of the kind of stewardship of the world’s natural resources — one marked by wasteful squandering as well as by destruction and pollution — we humans have practiced for centuries.
We can’t go on any longer pretending that we’re not choking out entire ecosystems with our carelessness. And we certainly can’t pretend that it’s just not happening.
If the whales do not survive, that means the food both they and we rely upon — the bounty of fish and other life from the sea — is gone. And if they are in trouble, then so are we.
[If you want to learn more about these killer whales, be sure to check out the excellent work of the Orca Network and the Center For Whale Research.]
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Hi David!
whales! david!
So this is about whales’ wails? Well, well.
Stunning stuff, David!
The latest from our local orcaologist
What a great video/audio.
And what a treat to be up late enough for Late Night. Though I’ll probably not be here long.
Oh, this is wonderful! Thanks for sharing, and I SO miss the sea.
pleasant treat to see ya at late nite ecahn – i love the pictures of your place i saw from the meetup
hypnotic stuff David. god I love these creatures.
Aloha, Dave and my Late Nite Brethren…! ;-)
Nice work. Thanks for sharing.
The most audible sounds, as you can hear, are their calls, which are seemingly how they communicate;…
Amazing. And quite a talkative group, huh?
Though some of this clearly appears to be just gossip.
Thanks. It was a wonderful party in every way. Though I did sleep from Monday noon thru Tuesday morning!
I think it wasn’t gossip at all. Sounded more like a FDL meetup to me, “discussing” FISA cave-ins.
aw, david. my favorite place in the world. i’ve spent many many summers sailing the san juans on the schooner zodiac. the way the orcas are suddenly there and then gone. magic.
alas, the industrial toxins getting dumped into the sound are also taking a heavy toll on the pods.
Thanks for sharing this great experience, David.
i so want to get up there and see and hear the sights and sounds of the sound
Hi, Pups!
Thanks for this, David. Must have been amazing.
So, how is everyone?
FunnyD
Dave, is that new footage or what ya posted before? I love whale song and/or orca and dolphin sing-song…! *g*
Has anyone read “The Secret Life of Lobsters” by Trevor Corson?
hey (((Suzanne))) -
saw a comment about the cottage selling – that’s a good thing right ?
eCAHN – benefitted from your imput on the Hezbollah thread the other night – thanks
David – “happened upon” several pods off the Anacortes ferry – 30 years ago
we were actually headed to see some rare trillium on San Juan. We were like little kids, catching their spray while other ferry goers recoiled in fright – a treasured memory
Evening all. Pretty cool stuff, Dave. Orcas are definitely very awesome critters.
its a better thing – if i am lucky, i will come out with enough to move up north with.
Thanks for the shout-out. Pretty amazing how when you take the time to find out about something, it turns out to be quite a bit different from the propaganda. WANS (we are not surprised).
Nice post David. Thanks.
Anybody got good news? I’ll settle for a plausible lie.
David, will you spend your next vacation
swimming with Sharksat the Repub convention ? *g*BTW, I used that new-fangled tool for FISA that FDL generated today at M&C, in my latest post…! ;-)
Digg It!
good news: it is a very pleasant 72 outside at the moment
plausible lie: the weather guy said it could get hotter but the fog could impact the coast
Does this mean you have an offer?
Um … Summer has arrived in Toronto … *g*
sweet!!!
200 days, 13 hours, 32 minutes. That’s pretty good news.
*gasp* you missed my tuesday nite post?
dugg and thanks neuro
That’d be referred to as ‘Jumping the Shark(s)’… Dood! 8-P
Dugg!
Obama is leading McCain by 5 points in Montana according to the latest poll. Last time a Democrat one the presidential here was Clinton in ‘92.
((((( Suz )))))
The ’sewer’ threat worked ! *g*
Good news: My new garage doors have been installed.
It’s entirely new. Just shot it and recorded it last week.
woohoo!
How could I resist such a plea, M’dear…? *g*
ROFL … ((( newt )))
I fear that I succumbed to the rigors of a nine mile hike and went to bed early.
Hi CT … how’s it goin’, eh ?
Kewl, Ya did mention you’d be busy with some new stuff…! Wasn’t sure…! *g*
*sniff sniff*
smiling bravely and dabbing at eyes with tissue – it wasn’t anything special
didja notice i tripled in your honor?
Mostly I was entertaining shifting passels of children, but that was great too. It was a fun place for kids and grownups alike.
My house is great but my garage is an 1950s piece of crap. Going to be painted gray in the spirit of: move along, nothing to see here.
OK. [hangs head in shame, scuffles dirt with foot, and fidgets nervously] Does this mean I have to go dig through the archives or will you actually clue me in?
Hey petro
From you, backthread:
Yeah, but we got the whole security thingy goin’ down here. And thanks to the Gummint, hundreds of millions of tax dollars to churches with no accountability. And a bunch of other stuff…
The kids are the most rewarding…! *g*
Uh-oh, dare I ask? Tripled? Que?
have a buyer… had inspections of house and termites today, septic gets inspected monday. contingencies are supposed to be lifted by wed morning and escrow is tentatively set to close 7/29. i get to stay here for 5 days (to pack and move) and have to leave by 8/3.
i used three ! on my sweet (don’t tell rbg)
On the + side, you have the Governator … *g*
lol!
Guilt, the gift that keeps on giving.
Ssh! I won’t tell…!!! ;-)
Great (if somewhat bittersweet) news! Were you able to get a good price for it? Do you have some place lined up to move to at least temporarily?
Hey, what ever happened to EPU anyway?
Bring your forklift, drag his pathetic ass away. And we’ll throw in Bakersfield to sweeten the deal. PLEASE!!!
It was the most perfect “Mom” response … I only labored for 19 hours to give you life, it was nothing special … *g*
price sucks. i put about $50k into it when i bought and, as i said, i’ll be lucky if i get $5k outt. don’t have a place lined up nor do i know where i’m going. i figure i’ll know it when i see it. gonna put everything into storage, head up north, find a spot to hang my hat, and then move everything up here.
Seems to have gotten EPU’d, n’st pas?
Been meaning to say congrats on the house, Suz. What a relief. We’ve all had our fingers crossed for you. Sacrifices to the FSM and all that.
And now I guess you’ll be heading up to where the cool people live.
Cool, as in we’re not burning up like the rest of the country.
It is interesting to see how each state handles real estate sales so differently. Here in Texas escrow is where you park your money until it is needed for big things like for taxes. When the house is actually sold, you close on it. Also, Title Companies handle all of this and they employ or are owned by the lawyers that do the work in other states.
i learned from the best – mom was in labor with me for 52 hours during a hurricane
Pod – Cooperative Hunting complete with Happy Disney Ending 1:20
Dearie – EPU has been showing up on Friday afternoons – with world’s cutest dog blogging
My kids “beached it” at Cape Henlopen State Park in Delaware every summer. It was such fun, and we had porpoises and pelicans, too.
We’ll use Ahnuld to smack McCain – offshore drilling, gay marriage, alternative energy, EPA, etc. … that will excuse almost all of his transgressions
thanks, david. i figure the volcanoes up there go off less frequently than our wildfires down here. i’m really looking forward to it – i love rain and have enjoyed living in a temperate rain forest – hope to find something similar up there.
And he gets great pot, or so I’m told…
On a tangentially related (Seattle) note, I see that the Sonics are moving from Seattle to OKC. That really has to be the dumbest move in the history of professional sports. Glad to see that Seattle did not give in to Major League extortion. I fear that the taxpayers in Oklahoma are going to live to regret this (as are the owners when the damned thing folds).
spew!
Aye Caramba !
Don’t get me started. I will just curse a lot anyway.
OK, I will say this: Fuck David Stern and Fuck the NBA.
david, this is a foul-mouthed fem blog
David Stern and Gary Bettman are why God invented the word fuck.
Yawl, thanks for the good news and plausible lies. That and a Guiness (cup more than half-full) is cheering.
Petro, Toronto is a fabulous city.
Last time I was there was a Canadian Thanksgiving. Fun to celebrate twice. One glitch – hotel refused to check me in, alleging my drivers license was expired. Hilarious misunderstanding about US/Can variation in date number arrangements.
Yep, both are Fuckwads !
Hmmm, Thers’ has had quite the effect on us … *g*
adding FTNBA to my FTFY
You will get your revenge when the Oklahoma taxpayers get shafted and the franchise ultimately folds. I just do not think that the state of Oklahoma can support it.
I’m sure his eradication teams supply him with some primo stuff…! Some of the best from across the state…! ;-)
Yeah, but it’s intelligent cursing. If I were to start in about the Sonics tonight it would just be incoherent ranting.
Must have been a newbie at the Hotel … next time you’re up here, let me buy you a Brewsky to make up for that …
LOL … that would explain the hair …
Btw, what will OKC name the SuperSonics, considering Seattle keeps the name and stats…! The Sooners…? ;-)
fuckwads…
Mary, speaking about Team McCain last night, made the best use of that term I think.
Brava, Mary!
I always thought Phyllis Shlaffly and Tom DeLay are why God invented the word fuck.
Yes, I would think something tied to their history of thievery would be appropriate, so Sooners would be about right.
And we’ll throw in Bakersfield to sweeten the deal. PLEASE!!!
Oh lord – that’s gotta be a deal-killer.
I spent a month in Bakersfield one night…
(laughing) david, rantings are what lies at the heart of late nites. we rant at night so we can fight the good fight the next morning. i’ve never seen a requirement the rantings be coherent.
Getting ready for bed, but had to reply. We in OKC have the pleasure of subsidizing the new NBA team here to the tune of a penny sales tax for (IIRC) something less than a year. That extra penny (which makes the rate here 8.375%, and it’s on everything, even groceries) was set to expire, so the local rethugs said it was “no tax increase”. (But letting Bush’s tax cuts expire is a tax increase – just depends on which side they’re on.)
The usual – subsidies for the rich, free enterprise for the rest of us.
That one is already taken by my alma mater. Probably Oilers or Cowboys or Ruffnecks or some such.
Sooners or Laters?
Not to worry, I’m sure J.C Watts will step in and save them. /s
BTW, we’re going down to 52 tonight, which is perfect for Lamb Curry …
You’re thinking of “asshole.”
Let me rephrase – you may be confusing “fuck” with “asshole.”
nevermind…
I suppose all corporate boxes and no seats for the hoi poloi.
Boomers would be better. A bunch of Kansas yahoos who kept trying to settle there when it was still Indian Territory and no whites were allowed.
LOL … Mary is priceless !
we can just call em the subsonics cause they won’t be super no more
That actually conjures an image I would rather not have. Now where did I put that brain bleach….
How about the Oklahoma Shooters, in honor of Chin-ee …
My sentiments exactly…! *g*
55 gal drums at all entrances and exits to the lake plus there are personal sized containers at all power strips. i ordered extra for the holiday weekend
thanks for the update. miss the epu moment — til it happens to me.
As I understand it, plenty of both – expansion of the Ford Center is what the tax is paying for. Of course, the hoi poloi better have some bucks to spend…
We were talkin about an FDL commune in Tuscany.
Forming the Church of the Lake might be an appealing alternative — supporting superannuated DFHes..
Won’t be the Sooners, OU’s got the franchise on that one.
Heh, nice combo the fly seduces the bug exterminator…!
Oklahoma has a fine old tradition of shafting the hoi poloi, what with “right to work (for slave wages)” laws and such.
Won’t be the Cowboys either, since OSU and Dallas have that franchise…! ;-)
I understand at pro-sports stadiums they search your bags upon entry–not for terrorism stuff, but to make sure you’re not bringing in your own refreshments, so you have to pay exhorbitant stadium prices.
Happy Birthday America !
And my more fanatical fellow alum will roast alive anyone who tries to poach on that one.
Yeah, kind of a tradition throughout the south.
I’m a hermit. Otherwise I’d offer some of my 50 acres for the commune.
There are reasons I left (like the chance to earn a living wage).
In your neck of the woods! The sun hasn’t even set here…! ;-)
Second that!! May the state of the union be much improved by the next birthday.
Yeah, they did the same thing at Jazzfest in New Orleans.
do it for concerts too.
50 acres of Tuscan soil…? Surely an acre or two would suffice…! ;-)
(laughing) david, rantings are what lies at the heart of late nites. we rant at night so we can fight the good fight the next morning. i’ve never seen a requirement the rantings be coherent.
Coherent ranting, and excessive sobriety, are reserved for daylight hours only, right?
That is, if I read the rules (which don’t exist) correctly….
50 acres?! Oooh, we’d be real quiet. You could have a share of our lettuce, root vegetables, vino — and joy!
some of us are loner types, ct.
Having so many voices demanding a better nation and future, I have no doubt that 2009 will be better than 2008.
And every year thereafter will see greater improvement, so long as we remain vigilant and united.
The economic analysis for municiple financial support for stadiums is pretty straightforward–doesn’t add to local economy over & above costs. But powers-that-be always jimmy the numbers to make it look like it does. Luckily Manhattan defeated the stadium over the rail yards, but pouring megabucks into new Yankee stadium in Bronx.
And, thanks, David, for the sounds of the whales. Much appreciated. I’m as sorry for them as for me that there aren’t salmon abundant.
Oh jeez–I am really sorry. Suz! Brain bleach, STAT!
Not that I’ve ever been a real flag waver, but my gift of a flag flown over the White House (by my decorated Vet WWII Dad) has been rolled since 2000. Thoughts? Am I wrong?
True, but as dearie said; we’ll be quiet…! The better half isn’t buying it tho…! ;-)
whenever i see something about whales, i always flash to that star trek movie where they came back in time to san francisco and got whales. i don’t want to have my grandchildrens’ grandchildren living in a world where there are no whales
They claimed that when OKC hosted the New Orleans team (for two years after Katrina) it added $70 million to the local economy. No idea where the they got (invented?) the data.
With a well-drafted grant application, we might be able to acquire the Cloister..
Privatization R US.
Not Tuscany, New Paltz, NY. Pretty nice place to be but as I said, not Tuscany. We do have one moderately good local vineyard, and the only distillery in NYS is only 2 miles away.
http://www.tuthilltown.com/ They make really good stuff: vodka, corn licker, single malt scotch, bourbon, and are developing a rum to be a product tie-in with Historic Huguenot Street
http://www.huguenotstreet.org/
Yes! Let Obama know that you’ll allow him to display it at his inauguration — and remind him to stiffen his spine!
If you feel in your heart that’s the right thing to do, then that’s the right thing you did.
I told a dear friend earlier today, “Please do celebrate the 4th of July with zest … it should remind all Americans of their lifelong duty to protect the Constitution and Bill of Rights, two pieces of Literature that I put amongst the most sacred ever composed.”
Re patriotism
I refuse to fly the U.S. flag while W is prez. Have been flying the U.N. flag as a protest, which is pretty subtle as most passers-by have no clue.
I’ve said this before … I’d rather have a Dem POTUS who I agree with half the time than a Repub POTUS who I disagree with all the time …
Yes, but they were not subsidizing them the way they will the new team. That alone makes a big difference. I still do not think the state will support a major league franchise. They looked at it in the 80s when I was there and the numbers just did not add up.
Thank you Petro and Dearie
ding ding ding
I’m with you on that……and I actually get to vote! I love your support.
Tuthill is a variation of my surname that was utilized by a direct branch of my family that didn’t flee to Nova Scotia during the Revolution, of which is the branch I’m a descendent of(NS)…! *g*
They claimed the two-year experience with the Hornets proved OKC will support a major franchise. Who knows? I just wish they’d have left us taxpayers our of it. But I guess the whole point was to show Seattle (or maybe Washington state) that no subsidy is not an option.
Then, in the interest of family solidarity, you must buy at least one bottle of everything they produce, dontcha think?
The point was to extort as many cities as possible into competing to subsidize the team and enrich the owners at everyone else’s expense. Major league franchises are one of the biggest legal con games around.
I love Dearie’s suggestion, do send that invitation to Barack.
Agreed.
Well, off to bed. G’night, all.
You betcha.
g’nite maydaze
G’nite MayDaze.
Night MayDaze.
DD does expose the underbelly…! Aloha, MayDaze!
MayDaze – who knows what can happen in OKC? You got yourselves a riverwalk like San Antonio, so now you need a championship basketball team to go with it. I’m with Dr. Dick – I cannot see OK being able to support a B-Ball team. You’ve got the Mavericks just 200 miles south, but there are lots of crazy rich people like Mark Cuban who make the games fun. Does OKC have any of those type of folks?
Many Earth flags flying in my neighborhood!
Maybe Buffett who’s a lot closer, in Omaha, might be interested… Or T. Boone Pickens…!
I should send it to his office when he wins the Office of the President.
Well, we were prepared to subsidize a team. What we weren’t prepared to do was foot the bill for a $500 million sports palace in Renton (no one wants to drive to frigging Renton, which features two of the worst traffic intersections in the state and the infamous S-curves), of which Bennett and Co. were willing to only maybe pitch in $100 million.
The Sonics belong in Seattle at the Center, and that was never an option for Bennett. He wanted to move them to the suburbs and then came up with a plan that everyone knew would never fly. Classic bad-faith bullshit.
Gotta lik to a pic? UN is just a couple of blocks from where I live, so I just walked down & bought a flag. But earth flag sounds good too.
Oklahoma has lots of crazy rich folks, but not in a good way. (Think Mellon Scaife).
Perfect !
Oof, hit a raw nerve, eh, Dave…? *g*
Hi Chris! Yes, I’d like to see a photo too.
Gosh, no I don’t have any pictures. I live in a uber DFH neighborhood in of all places, Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Sherrod Brown is my hero. I’ll try and take some this weekend and post on FB or here.
“Gov. Charlie Crist gets engaged”
link
good luck, ya crazy kids!
I flew the American Flag that first July 4th after 9-11, but I too have refused to fly one since Bush invaded Iraq and turned patriotism into horse hockey. I will fly it once Obama becomes president and especially if my two favorite war criminals end up at the Hague.
Noooo … the kids have dragged out Monopoly … off to crush their free market spirit … *g*
G’nite all and have an extra drink for me tomorrow !
Google to the rescue
http://www.earthflags.com/
As a rule, major league owners only operate in bad faith. It is their modus operandi.
g’nite pet
nite petro
keep it north
Hmmmm. Seems Charlie grew a beard.
Margot, our neighborhood has blue flags with pictures of earth from space, ALL over the place. It is really a wonderful place to live, even if we don’t have the ocean (weeps, wipes tears).
Apparently, his vetters say he needs a wife for his Veep aspirations, eh? ;-)
As a rule, oligopolists of all industries operate in their own interests, i.e., bad faith. Now ask yourself why major league sports are exempt from antitrust laws.
Aloha, Petro!
Personally, I am going to celebrate the 4th by hiking as far as I can into the mountains away from people (and hopefully the bears and lions which seem unusually active this year). Probably won’t get all that far as I got a late start owing to all the rain and am not really in shape yet. Downside of that winter desk job.
Yeh, like I said, don’t get me started … did someone mention Tim Donaghy? Nope. Nevermind.
Very good question… considering they’re the only ‘game’, in their field…! ;-)
I should point out that I am a soc*alist, so I assume that ALL capitalists operate in bad faith.
i’m staying inside and hoping the boulder creek rednecks around me don’t play with fireworks and shooting guns this year (as they have every year)
Salud! Salute! So loose! Don’t lose!
Actually I’m not up on the literature on why pro-sports have the exemption, but assume it’s because it’s like a tribal thingy.
One of the reasons I am heading up into the mountains.
But, it didn’t seem like he juiced any games against the Sonics, per se…! ;-)
I don’t mean to be rude or pushy or anything, really…but in my humble opinion this post really deserves some more Digging before Late Late Nite comes around
I enjoyed it a lot, David
Profit motive is not “bad faith” if there’s real competition. Trouble is, most markets are imperfect, meaning the conditions of uniform products with atomistic producers does not prevail, thus competition does not create market discipline the way the “market economics” crowd would have you believe. A long standing despair of mine is that economic analysis is not honest. If it were, we’d be much better off economically, as the discipline has a lot of good stuff to offer.
I have my house insurance policy in my purse. I live (as many already know) on the American River in Rancho Cordova. We have fire problems no matter what the conditions. Arson and nature. The fools have already started with the stupid fireworks. The word stupidassholes describes the situation.
So did I.
Boys and their toys, writ large.
My observation is that Adam Smith’s model only really works in emergent markets and quickly disappears in mature markets owing to competitive exclusion. Markets inevitably trend toward monopoly (or at least oligopoly) as a consequence.
has the smoke dissipated or is it still keeping ya hunkered down inside?
There was this bit:
The chief official in question in that game (the “company man”) was Dick Bennett. Bennett headed up the officating crew that handled the Sonics Western Conference Finals game in 1993 against the Barkley-led Suns, when the NBA clearly wanted the Barkley-Jordan matchup for the Finals. In that game, the Suns shot 64 free throws; the Sonics 36.
I am off to bed. Need to get my rest so I can scale the lofty hights tomorrow. Take care and enjoy.
Thanks for the kind words. I hoped folks would enjoy this as a changeup of the evening fare.
g’nite dr (pause) dick
Yes, but the consequences of imperfect markets and what to do about them has been widely studied. The problem is that no one today pays any attention to that part of the literture.
You need the ocean, I need the high desert/mountains. Sigh.
G’nite DrDick. Hike well in the morning.
It was wonderful today. I took pictures last night back by the river at dusk. As soon as my stupid computer gets reconfigured I will post them. I keep getting this where the hell is your msvcr71.dll error mf? I wish I had my mac back. Windows suckssssss.
Ooh, my neo-con twin brother tells me to beware of socialists and thinks that the free market is what it’s all about. But every time I question him about BearSterns et al. he kind of goes bonkers. He even thinks that we should be able to smash OPEC upside the head for allowing the ’speculating’. I say, WTF, oil is their commodity. Not like they’re going to be growin corn-for-oil on their sand dunes. Jeez. We should be taking better care of our own resources. But, hey, I’m just a girl.
yeah and boo hiss
there ya go, being all logical again (grin)
You wouldn’t want to hit your bro upsidethehead with too many, you know, logical thoughts and facts. I am amazed at how many people believe that democracy and capitalism are the same forking thang.
http://www.blog.thesietch.org/…..mbnail.jpg
*le sigh le envy* oh that is some sweet eye candy chris e
‘93 Western Finals… Heh, a long lingering raw nerve…! *g*
Who has Late Late Nite tonite, Suzanne? I can never remember the formula
little ole me… tues, thur and sat is me, mon wed and fri is eureka. we take turns on sundays
that is wunderbar.
Wow, isn’t it just!
You ain’t the only one, neuro…! ;-)
Totally wished up waves of ocean…sigh.
It’s the taking turns on Sunday that disrupts me…! ;-)
I have a tenny, tiny little announcement to make on the late, late nite thingie. :)
Time for our daily dose of fear mongering vis a vis Iran.
Sixth Fleet Commander says Iran likely to attack Israel.
The war is back on!
-G
I hope you mention Enron as often as possible too.
Oooh yeh.
a good thing or a bad thang? shall i stock up on tissues or on party hats?
Once more, David, thanks for the whale sounds. Just love ‘em. Have you ever heard Patricia Sun do her sounds? Deeply moving.
I smell another medal of freedumb a’comin’.
evil. no wait, i mean EVIL FUCKERS!
Oh? Please be good?
fuck
good.
And Countrywide. You guys would not even imagine how people got talked into the crazy, bizarre, deviant and abusive loans……or how much greed allowed people to take ‘equity’ out of their homes. If that was anything akin to free market then I’m a pineapple.
*grabbing kazoos and party hats from supply closet*
free for all market.
saw the enron documentary, the smartest guys in the room, on pbs last night.
sure was different watching it after the fact with the knowledge we have now.
FORK.. enron
No, I haven’t, but will check out her work.
The wonders of the free market! And Eff Aunt Millie and her retirement money!
Vultures, all of ‘em.
-G
Thanks, love it!
Yeah, Kevin Phillips’ book Bad Money is particularly good on that subject.
Dana Priest is chuckling at the Admiral of the Sixth Fleet. Thinks he’s a rube.
-G
late late nite zed to claim upstairs
David, We just got of the ferry here on Vashon. Thanks for reminding me of what I am passing over and through as we ply the waters of Puget Sound. Wonderful to embrace such sentient beings. Thank you. Bill