One can only admire the sort of mastery of snark that leads a DC Court of Appeals panel to rule that a Guantanamo detainee was not an enemy combatant:
With some derision for the Bush administration’s arguments, a three-judge panel said the government contended that its allegations against a detainee should be accepted as true because they had been repeated in at least three secret documents.
The court compared that to the absurd declaration of a Lewis Carroll character: “I have said it thrice: What I tell you three times is true.”
“This comes perilously close to suggesting that whatever the government says must be treated as true,” said the panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit…
…The panel included one of the court’s most conservative members, the chief judge, David B. Sentelle.
I’m shocked, shocked to hear that just because the government says something, it isn’t true. Even worse, that perhaps, just perhaps, the government might be making assertions that anyone with a whit of sense would know are backed up with zero evidence. Which is to say, that perhaps, just perhaps, the government might not just be, uh, misguided, but lying?
Next thing you know the courts will shatter my last illusion in the case of Virginia vs. S. Claus, and try and tell us all that "no, Virginia, there is no Santa Claus. He does not exist, just as surely as goodness and decency do not exist, have not existed and cannot exist in this Republican government".
Until then, and I know it’s six months out, I’d just like to note for the record that I’ve been mostly good this year and that when I’ve been bad, it’s been, mmm, a good bad.



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Hurrah for this gang of three!
but if I click my heels together three times in these ruby slippers of mine…
you won’t like kansas this time of year … :)
Thanks, Ian, for another great post. I’m assuming that the DC Ct of Appeals is a federal court. All the more reason to prevent McShame from ever getting a chance to appoint federal judges. We need more of this type court. Sane and reasonable. And with a sense of snark.
Happy Birthday Canada !
((( Ian )))
Kind of like, Mae West? Wasn’t it was she about whom they said “When she was good she was very, very good, and when she was bad she was better.”?
And Many More!! (((Petro & Ian)))
Happy birthday, eh?
OT: sort of
become a citizen co-sponsor with Sen. Dodd of the defeating Telco immunity-
http://advomatic.bm23.com/publ…..;ssid=9531
((((( Elliott Egregious )))))
Gotta get back to my
Beer & Bar-B-Qdear, dear guests … *g*IT’S THE IAN AND PETRO SHOOOOOOW, KIDZ!
Happiest of *Bright Days* to you both.
hugz
((((( Siri )))))
We’ll be around on Friday to celebrate your Birthday as well !
:)
I’ll look forward to seeing you Petro.
I always do. Ian toooooo!
:)
Clicked my Chucks together three times and all I got was two sore ankle bones.
(((Elliott)))
Maybe some of the judges picked up snark by lurking at FDL.
lol!
Happy Birthday, Canada ! Your country has one of the best national anthems.
(((Petro)))
(((Ian)))
This year we’re gonna declare our independence from Rethug and Dem imperial fascists.
Well the name of the poem is The Hunting Of The Snark after all…
ya know, when I read about this this am, the Lewis Carroll Snark remark by the court, I thought to m’self,
It’s about high and friggin time that someone put this administration in the realm of rrrrrrridiculous, where they have belonged since forevah!!!
SOMEONE is finally acknowledging the absurd MO of the codpiece commandos.
FINALLY!
and it was good. a really good moment.
Thank you for the link, dakine, and thank you again for the helping hand earlier today!
Truly.
:)
Digg it!
Done dugg!
Reminded of Holly Hunter in O Brother Where Art Thou?,
“It’s done. It’s a done deal! Ah caounted ta thuree.”
lol
and whilst you are diggin, digg on these, to make it a tridiggfecta:
digg FISA: Now This Is What A Patriot Sounds Like…
digg Six Years Later, McCain Says He Still Would’ve Invaded Iraq
This is rich. I love it when the system makes fun of George and Dick.
and HAPPY DOMINION DAY!!!
Great flick and great album.
O, Canada…! ;-) Aloha, Ian and Petro!
Ask and ye shall receive.
BEAUTY, eh?
It was a good moment, wasn’t it? Kind of like what it must have felt like to be standing near the boy who said, “But the Emperor has no clothes!”
a toodloo to Canada! we’ve ended up spending several canada days in vancouver and enjoyed it quite a bit.
and nothing like a little snark hunting to put the bushies off their feed ;)
Does this stuff all come in threes? Bush-Cheney administration: Ghost of LIes Past, Ghost of Lies Present, and Ghost of Lies Future.
speaking of 3s, veep-for-life is up for his third term this time around …
I spent a summer and early fall at Kootenay Bay, BC many moons ago. Beautiful country.
one of my favs, and the music too!
Awww, I think the judges should make the Bushie lawyers to go to the bridge of death and see if they can answer the questions three
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sezwlaZOg_g
Best thing about both is that it brought Bluegrass back into popularity.
it was.
I’ve been thinking a lot about the last 4th of July. I was just so discouraged, dumbya had just commuted Libby’s sentence and then went off to Crawford leaving the rest of us flipped off and slack jawed.
It really just trashed my whole holiday. I marched myself out and hung my American flag upside down, for the 3rd year in a row and just wasn’t even INTO any festivities. I kept wondering for the rest of the year what he’d do to us THIS year, and I’m thinkin’ the moves in Iran are counting for that.
But hearing this ruling, I was just CHEERED. Light. Maybe we are seeing light at the end of the tunnel???
Ya think?
Dang I am digging so much my shovel is wearin out:>)
yes it did.
i actually immediately bought the CD on Amazon after seeing the flick. I couldn’t get the music outa my head, ya know?
I picked up the DVD later, but daughter took it with her when she moved so I’m needin’ another one.
I LOVE tht music. Got any other good recommends? It’s heart grabbing!
Hah! you beat me to the Monty Python analogies. I was going to suggest counting to three for thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!
five is right out!
O Canada!
Imagine a federal court quoting a nonsense poem about hunting a snark. What is the American judiciary coming to?
…when I’ve been bad, it’s been, mmm, a good bad.
you’ve got your known good bads,
your unknown good bads,
your unknown bad goods,
…
Nickel Creek’s first two albums. Alison Krauss and Union Station. I’m also an “old time music” fan so I look for stuff recorded in the 30’s and 40’s.
Like:
Music from the Lost Provinces, Old-Time Stringbands from Ashe County, NC 1927-1931 – Old Hat
John Johnson, Strange Creek Fiddling – 1947 – West Virginia U Press
These are CDs and this is real back porch music.
Also Robert Johnson blues recordings.
it’s those “known KNOWN bad bads” I’m likin’ to avoid.
he!
To its senses.
what gets known in Baden-Baden stays known in Baden-Baden
in college one of my buddies was big into bluegrass, her whacky boyfriend played the mandolin, we used to sit on the wall and just soak it in.
I like Nickle Creek’s first album a lot, one of my serendipitous library finds
We have an annual fiddle festival around her, but I missed it this year.
I like Robert Johnson recordings, and love some of the Jean Ritchie very old ballads.
There’s something about a fiddle.
I knew Sam Bush slightly when I was in college.
was at a yankees-blue jays game when the woman (girl, really) forgot the words, started over, forgot them again, stopped and went to the dugout and got a piece of paper with the words. Needless to say, she was just mortified. The fans knew it from hockey games and helped her out. The BJ’s brought her up there to do it at one of their games.
Ho, ho, ho …
Who doesn’t know?
I’m clutchin’ muh pearls, alas and alack …
Ian, you’re givin me a heartattack-tack!
I’ve checked all my myths and there’s nuthin’ like this,
Something’s definitely, completely, totally amiss.
You mean they would lie, lookin’ right in muh eye?
I talked with muh Senators and they said no such thing,
They just mumbled something about ‘prayers’ and a ‘wing’.
I sought better angels, but with all the harpin’ they simply won’t sing.
I’m so depressed, I’ll go to the mall,
I always feel safer when I bring home a ‘haul’ …
But Ian, you know, this simply won’t do?
Who’s gonna save us? I want to know who?
But I’m starting to guess it’ll be me and you and you and you
There, I’ve said it three times it must certainly be true!
Thanks there, Ian, for helping us through …
;~D
Thank YOU SouthernDragon. I prefer the oldies too. It’s really wonderful music, and who, WHO can sit still listening??? I just got Music from the Lost Provinces @ Amazon.
Can’t wait!
:D
Thanks, really!
Baden-Baden, huh?
Sounds like a vaca hot spot.
lol
Hey nahant
you are a diggmeister!! *s
Oh now that’s good.
Dave Neiwert upstairs on Darcy Burner’s House Fire
The Saviour
can someone explain to me this canada thing? today is dominion day, right? when did it stop being a dominion and start being a regular country??
In Harry Potter, “Ridiculous!” is one of the magic word one says to neutralize certain powerful spells. I think Obama and other Democrats need to start using that curse buster more often! Especially when McCain starts taking credit for bills that he opposed.
And Wesley Clark should start quoting John McCain hisself, who is on record saying that getting shot down does not qualify him to be president.
Bob in HI
Yup, Canada day…
I just love how the canadian media is rewriting history, to evacuate any mention of the french fact that contributed to this great land.
I just love how our media let’s Harper give them limited access, in the same fashion McCain gives it. They’ve become stenographers…
I just love how my governement is a true beliver in war. Indefinite war, for fucking ever…
I just love that my government wants to re-criminalise abortion…
My government wants to reinstitute the death penalty, and would love to see a gun in every pocket…
Yé Canada…
Bluegrass is my main bag. Check my Facebook profile. In fact, on Sunday we’re going to celebrate with a bluegrass jam.
Bob in HI
ok. used to be dominion day. cana da day. but when did it stop being a dominion?
You’re welcome. We’ve got a really good used music store here, Bananas. I pick up a lot of old time music there.
Probably when the constitution was repatriated in the early eighties. Just a guess though.
nice!
What happens now with the detainee? Will Bushies appeal to SC?
And what happens AFTER the SC court says no habaeus corpus is unlawful. Do Bushies keep appealing and victims keep twisting in the wind? How many times has SC told him that is wrong. Wasn’t it 3? Sorry not to be more up on this. So if they say no to Bush, the SC … the lawyers get to keep on keeping on as long as money or power or willfulness allows?
As for DWBartoo –
a hoot hoot hoot
of you I sing –
of your prayers and wings
of your harpin’ angels who can’t
bring it on home
of our collected hopes flown…
so, escape to your mall for a time, then,
but must promise to return to yer rhymin…
yeah, i’m a little ticked at all the flack at Clark,
Once AGAIN, someone getting nailed by msm and the wingnutia for saying something that was completely, word for word TRUUUUUE!
sheeeesh.
i have to get most things from the net.
we don’t have much down here.
However, I’m about an hour from Telluride.
The Telluride Blue Grass Festival is kinda internationally known.
I missed it this year. We had tha unemployment flu here for a while, fortunately behind us now.
well.. I’m assuming this’ll get appealed all the way up to the supremes. Anyone want to venture a guess on how the Scalia/Roberts/Alito/Thomas hanging tribunal’s going to vote (probably without even reading the arguments)?
hope this translated properly
“Bonne Fête du Dominion”
– What happens now with the detainee? Will Bushies appeal to SC? –
Parhat was already slated for removal, so in that regard, the Court agreed with the government. Mary has elsewhere (Balkin) pointed out that removal of the label “enemy combatant” opens up a charge of violation of Article 46 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, and that may be why the government clings so, to the label.
But beyond the Parhat case itself, this decision portends the sort of review the DC Circuit intends to make with regard to all CSRT proceedings – it’s further detail, extending what the public learned about the Circuit Court’s temperament in the Bismullah case, where the government has been resisting providing testable evidence.
I like the approach taken by thereisnospoon with his(?) “Overton Window.” We should be trying to shift the window, rather than triangulating. Obama has shown some talent with this, but the DLC keeps wanting him to triangulate, and during the last two weeks he seems to be listening to them (unfortunately).
Oops, gotta run.
Bob in HI
We try We try…. had to go make my sweetie a nice Peets Cappuccino … But if you are not going digg the Lake what are you going to support???
but won’t this decision be appealed and isn’t there a chance the next court will find for the administration, and if not, then finally the supreme court?
I know we have had some success in these cases but it’s always rough with alito, scalia and roberts on the court
Ian Welsh with some news, upstairs!
Joining FDL As the Evenings and Weekend Editor
Well.. I guess we now know against whom we have been waging the War on Terror for the last eight years.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/…..index.html
Congress has asked the Dept of Homeland Security and the State Dept to stop classifying Nelson Mandela as a terrorist.
Ian is up up stairs with a new Post… He’s got him a promotion here at the Lake and wants to know what he should write about… I am sure we can come up with some suggestions…. don’t you!!
All Governments Lie — http://www.amazon.com/All-Gove…..0684807130
Contrast this ruling with the ruling about Maher Arar:
http://canadianpress.google.co…..GQXpZ12j7A
Sounds a little like the Good Dr. Seuss -
Your tongue set to wagging like the arse of a goose.
If you could enthrall the Dem Senators with your versical rhymes
We could minimize FISA with Feingold and Feinstein.
Probably in 1982 when Canada patriated its constitution and changed Dominion Day to Canada Day.
To the Good Dr. Suess,
I acknowledge my dues.
And to you, my dear Mr. Why,
I say, respectfully,
“Let’s both have a try!”
You’ve mastered the knack
and I’ll give it a whack!
Should we succeed
in stopping this deed …
We’ll be so well-primed
with syllabical rhyme
mayhap we’ll tackle
far bigger crimes.
And last, but not least,
to meet you …
I am, it’s the truth, very much pleased.
;~D
Hope you caught my response to your first poem @70. :)
Indeedy so,
and I want you to know
’tis been a great pleasure
to witness your wit.
Your friendship’s a treasure,
each singular bit,
your humor it floors me, LOL!
Your wisdom enhances this most-competent crowd.
Where everyones’ different, some quiet, some loud,
but it’s the “up and the doing” which make me most proud.
On balance, I think we’re all very lucky,
having found many friends who all are quite plucky.
What say you libby?
As I wax here all tribby?
May all your days be serene and full,
‘cuz our work’s, all cut out, it’s for the long pull.
You are another who walks in my mind,
imagining the future, we all hope to find.
Well, I better stop,
before I go, over the ‘top’ …
Thanks, libby.
;~David