Comments on: Wes Clark Walks Into McCain’s Giant Wood Chipper http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:14:14 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: RickinSF http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1522036 RickinSF Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:09:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1522036 <p>My dad was shot down in WWII, and he’d have made a miserable president.</p> My dad was shot down in WWII, and he’d have made a miserable president.

]]> By: rwcole http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521761 rwcole Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:30:48 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521761 <p>Afghanistan kills more troops than Iraq for the first time. Obama thinks that Afghanistan is the “good war” so he’d better come up with some plans for the this Clusterfuck. We put a guy in power who has no power- and now those who do have power are fighting back…the war that killed the Soviet Union is back with an all new cast!</p> Afghanistan kills more troops than Iraq for the first time. Obama thinks that Afghanistan is the “good war” so he’d better come up with some plans for the this Clusterfuck. We put a guy in power who has no power- and now those who do have power are fighting back…the war that killed the Soviet Union is back with an all new cast!

]]> By: JamesJoyce http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521753 JamesJoyce Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:27:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521753 <p>Great response ACitizen! You get it! The term “Silent German” is a historical analogy placed in context of today! I’m of German heritage also and very aware of the German people’s silence and the cost the world paid. My relatives in Nazi Germany were executed for their attempt(s) to assassinate Hitler and end his fascist/terrorism which killed millions in zee name of zee Homeland!</p> Great response ACitizen! You get it! The term “Silent German” is a historical analogy placed in context of today! I’m of German heritage also and very aware of the German people’s silence and the cost the world paid. My relatives in Nazi Germany were executed for their attempt(s) to assassinate Hitler and end his fascist/terrorism which killed millions in zee name of zee Homeland!

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521684 newtonusr Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:08:58 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521684 <p>The key - “burton’s statement”. you said it right there.<br /> Senator Obama cannot be seen to enter into minutiae about this - he isn’t qualified, and he’s better off above it.<br /> Obama did not say a word about McCain’s service, and let one surrogate get the story out there while another stood between McCain and the press, and Obama.<br /> Clark is a big boy. He can not only take it, but now he’s engaged in a debate about McCain’s qualifications - exactly where Obama needs him.</p> The key – “burton’s statement”. you said it right there.
Senator Obama cannot be seen to enter into minutiae about this – he isn’t qualified, and he’s better off above it.
Obama did not say a word about McCain’s service, and let one surrogate get the story out there while another stood between McCain and the press, and Obama.
Clark is a big boy. He can not only take it, but now he’s engaged in a debate about McCain’s qualifications – exactly where Obama needs him.

]]> By: DivaBabe http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521675 DivaBabe Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:41:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521675 <p>Sorry, try this:</p> <p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/july-dec99/mccain_9-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb.....n_9-1.html</a></p> Sorry, try this:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb…..n_9-1.html

]]> By: libbyliberal http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521642 libbyliberal Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:07:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521642 <p>This incident makes me think back on the Samantha Power incident. I was dismayed and disappointed she would be “ejected” that quickly from the roster of BO consultants! </p> <p>Granted, she was inappropriate dissing Hillary to a journalist with the name “monster”, but no one had her back for a millisecond. She was evidence BO was inviting non-Washington power insiders onto his team. She was a talented journalist who won a Pulitzer. She had told truth to power re Rowanda genocide and about Israeli-Palestinian issues.</p> <p>But when the Clinton team reflected the histrionic indignation the Repugs have employed all these years, she was GONE GONE GONE in a NYC minute. Saying something mean-spirited to Hillary as if Hillary (the queen of hard-ball campaigning) were made of glass — I wanted BO at that point to acknowledge the slip, but support Power’s gifts and potential to his campaign….. for God’s sakes… she won a Pulitzer! … and mistakes were made …. but this all-or-nothing gamesmanship, walking on THEIR egg shells mentality … and in this case THEIR egg shells were our own Hillary Dems … THIS SCENARIO made me sad.</p> <p>And now Axelrod … why is HE commenting on Clark’s statement … starts apologizing for what Clark did not even say. Axelrod stressing BO honored McCain’s heroism in Vietnam. So did Clark, Axelrod!! Why is Axelrod acting apologetic for something that did not happen. And why not go with the assertion that McCain does not have leadership qualities. Are we afraid to let anyway out there know this perspective? </p> <p>BO and operators afraid to hurt feelings of people who think McCain is superior military leader? Learn to let go of what you don’t have, Barack!</p> <p>As for the press.. Andrea Mitchell et al. … games <strike>alocholics </strike> drama addicts play… “Let’s you and him fight….” MSM and Repugs keep inviting Dems to play lose/lose games and they do it.</p> This incident makes me think back on the Samantha Power incident. I was dismayed and disappointed she would be “ejected” that quickly from the roster of BO consultants!

Granted, she was inappropriate dissing Hillary to a journalist with the name “monster”, but no one had her back for a millisecond. She was evidence BO was inviting non-Washington power insiders onto his team. She was a talented journalist who won a Pulitzer. She had told truth to power re Rowanda genocide and about Israeli-Palestinian issues.

But when the Clinton team reflected the histrionic indignation the Repugs have employed all these years, she was GONE GONE GONE in a NYC minute. Saying something mean-spirited to Hillary as if Hillary (the queen of hard-ball campaigning) were made of glass — I wanted BO at that point to acknowledge the slip, but support Power’s gifts and potential to his campaign….. for God’s sakes… she won a Pulitzer! … and mistakes were made …. but this all-or-nothing gamesmanship, walking on THEIR egg shells mentality … and in this case THEIR egg shells were our own Hillary Dems … THIS SCENARIO made me sad.

And now Axelrod … why is HE commenting on Clark’s statement … starts apologizing for what Clark did not even say. Axelrod stressing BO honored McCain’s heroism in Vietnam. So did Clark, Axelrod!! Why is Axelrod acting apologetic for something that did not happen. And why not go with the assertion that McCain does not have leadership qualities. Are we afraid to let anyway out there know this perspective?

BO and operators afraid to hurt feelings of people who think McCain is superior military leader? Learn to let go of what you don’t have, Barack!

As for the press.. Andrea Mitchell et al. … games alocholics drama addicts play… “Let’s you and him fight….” MSM and Repugs keep inviting Dems to play lose/lose games and they do it.

]]> By: theExile http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521631 theExile Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:56:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521631 <p>I guess I’m losing touch with the changing world. But, I seem to remember a time when the “Aces” (in other words the creme de creme of military pilots) were the ones that DIDN’T get shot down. Just sayin’ </p> <p>You always Rawk Jane!</p> I guess I’m losing touch with the changing world. But, I seem to remember a time when the “Aces” (in other words the creme de creme of military pilots) were the ones that DIDN’T get shot down. Just sayin’

You always Rawk Jane!

]]> By: prostratedragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521625 prostratedragon Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:52:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521625 <p>Fundamentals of defense and counterattack: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/48jed2" rel="nofollow"><i>Twilight Samurai</i></a> (youtube), Iguchi Seibei’s first fight, against a bully who shares much of the town’s slight regard for him.</p> Fundamentals of defense and counterattack: Twilight Samurai (youtube), Iguchi Seibei’s first fight, against a bully who shares much of the town’s slight regard for him.

]]> By: Prairie Sunshine http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521615 Prairie Sunshine Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:41:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521615 <p>Having just seen Brian Williams NBC News, your last graph is too, sadly, too true. Sound bite totally out of context, slam/spin, rinse, repeat….</p> <p>Compliant media is too, too kind, Jane.</p> Having just seen Brian Williams NBC News, your last graph is too, sadly, too true. Sound bite totally out of context, slam/spin, rinse, repeat….

Compliant media is too, too kind, Jane.

]]> By: TomR http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521593 TomR Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:07:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/30/wes-clarke-walks-into-mccains-giant-wood-chipper/#comment-1521593 <p>When the country is in a tailspin, getting shot down in a plane is considered valuable experience in Bushworld.</p> <p>- Tom ;-)</p> When the country is in a tailspin, getting shot down in a plane is considered valuable experience in Bushworld.

- Tom ;-)

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