Comments on: Sweet Nothings Versus Honeyed Incentives http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:35:31 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: chimpyissatan http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1520286 chimpyissatan Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:57:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1520286 <p>FWIW, it might be wiser to get scientific opinions from someone other than the Bushies. Just because they’re not studying it and don’t know what’s causing it doesn’t mean it’s a total mystery. This type of collapse is not unprecedented, having happened at least one other time in my lifetime (notably before GMO and eeevil biotech came along). There’s pretty strong evidence (now nine months old) that this latest collapse is due to a viral infection (see below). </p> <p>CL</p> <p>Science 7 September 2007:<br /> Vol. 317. no. 5843, pp. 1304 - 1305<br /> DOI: 10.1126/science.317.5843.1304</p> <p>News of the Week GENOMICS:<br /> Puzzling Decline of U.S. Bees Linked to Virus From Australia<br /> Erik Stokstad<br /> Researchers report online in Science this week (www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1146498) that they have found an imported virus that may be associated with the sudden disappearance of honey bees in the United States, known as colony collapse disorder.</p> <p>The editors suggest the following Related Resources on Science sites:<br /> In Science Magazine: REPORTS: A Metagenomic Survey of Microbes in Honey Bee Colony Collapse Disorder<br /> Diana L. Cox-Foster, Sean Conlan, Edward C. Holmes, Gustavo Palacios, Jay D. Evans, Nancy A. Moran, Phenix-Lan Quan, Thomas Briese, Mady Hornig, David M. Geiser, Vince Martinson, Dennis vanEngelsdorp, Abby L. Kalkstein, Andrew Drysdale, Jeffrey Hui, Junhui Zhai, Liwang Cui, Stephen K. Hutchison, Jan Fredrik Simons, Michael Egholm, Jeffery S. Pettis, and W. Ian Lipkin (12 October 2007)<br /> Science 318 (5848), 283. [DOI: 10.1126/science.1146498]</p> FWIW, it might be wiser to get scientific opinions from someone other than the Bushies. Just because they’re not studying it and don’t know what’s causing it doesn’t mean it’s a total mystery. This type of collapse is not unprecedented, having happened at least one other time in my lifetime (notably before GMO and eeevil biotech came along). There’s pretty strong evidence (now nine months old) that this latest collapse is due to a viral infection (see below).

CL

Science 7 September 2007:
Vol. 317. no. 5843, pp. 1304 – 1305
DOI: 10.1126/science.317.5843.1304

News of the Week GENOMICS:
Puzzling Decline of U.S. Bees Linked to Virus From Australia
Erik Stokstad
Researchers report online in Science this week (www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1146498) that they have found an imported virus that may be associated with the sudden disappearance of honey bees in the United States, known as colony collapse disorder.

The editors suggest the following Related Resources on Science sites:
In Science Magazine: REPORTS: A Metagenomic Survey of Microbes in Honey Bee Colony Collapse Disorder
Diana L. Cox-Foster, Sean Conlan, Edward C. Holmes, Gustavo Palacios, Jay D. Evans, Nancy A. Moran, Phenix-Lan Quan, Thomas Briese, Mady Hornig, David M. Geiser, Vince Martinson, Dennis vanEngelsdorp, Abby L. Kalkstein, Andrew Drysdale, Jeffrey Hui, Junhui Zhai, Liwang Cui, Stephen K. Hutchison, Jan Fredrik Simons, Michael Egholm, Jeffery S. Pettis, and W. Ian Lipkin (12 October 2007)
Science 318 (5848), 283. [DOI: 10.1126/science.1146498]

]]> By: rosalind http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519974 rosalind Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:41:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519974 <p>hey sd: sorry for the delayed response. i think it was <a href="http://airamerica.com/lionel/blog/2008/apr/08/today-lionel" rel="nofollow">this show</a> - i believe you need to be a subscriber to listen to the podcast.</p> hey sd: sorry for the delayed response. i think it was this show – i believe you need to be a subscriber to listen to the podcast.

]]> By: TobyWollin http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519964 TobyWollin Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:25:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519964 <p>How High Fructose Corn Syrup is made: First, cornstarch is treated with alpha-amylase to produce shorter chains of sugars called polysaccharides. Alpha-amylase is industrially produced by a bacterium, usually Bacillus sp. It is purified and then shipped to HFCS manufacturers. Next, an enzyme called glucoamylase breaks the sugar chains down even further to yield the simple sugar glucose. Unlike alpha-amylase, glucoamylase is produced by Aspergillus, a fungus, in a fermentation vat where one would likely see little balls of Aspergillus floating on the top.<br /> The third enzyme, glucose-isomerase, is very expensive. It converts glucose to a mixture of about 42 percent fructose and 50-52 percent glucose with some other sugars mixed in. While alpha-amylase and glucoamylase are added directly to the slurry, pricey glucose-isomerase is packed into columns and the sugar mixture is then passed over it. Inexpensive alpha-amylase and glucoamylase are used only once, glucose-isomerase is reused until it loses most of its activity.</p> How High Fructose Corn Syrup is made: First, cornstarch is treated with alpha-amylase to produce shorter chains of sugars called polysaccharides. Alpha-amylase is industrially produced by a bacterium, usually Bacillus sp. It is purified and then shipped to HFCS manufacturers. Next, an enzyme called glucoamylase breaks the sugar chains down even further to yield the simple sugar glucose. Unlike alpha-amylase, glucoamylase is produced by Aspergillus, a fungus, in a fermentation vat where one would likely see little balls of Aspergillus floating on the top.
The third enzyme, glucose-isomerase, is very expensive. It converts glucose to a mixture of about 42 percent fructose and 50-52 percent glucose with some other sugars mixed in. While alpha-amylase and glucoamylase are added directly to the slurry, pricey glucose-isomerase is packed into columns and the sugar mixture is then passed over it. Inexpensive alpha-amylase and glucoamylase are used only once, glucose-isomerase is reused until it loses most of its activity.

]]> By: TobyWollin http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519956 TobyWollin Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:16:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519956 <p>Because it is very very cheap. My husband starts out our bee hives with sugar syrup.</p> Because it is very very cheap. My husband starts out our bee hives with sugar syrup.

]]> By: SunnyNobility http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519952 SunnyNobility Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:14:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519952 <p>Sorry, I’ve been off looking at bee pix.</p> <p>I haven’t seen snowbird. Have stopped watching tv for real - quite enough foxface in *myface* via the papers. </p> <p>Might not be a bad idea to sign up for a specific throwaway address at a free site, put out a call, and move folks to a better one when they reply. I’m sure there are more local folks, but haven’t pursued it. </p> <p>A pull up a chair message might be good - high turnout place and lots of folks who don’t post often gather.</p> Sorry, I’ve been off looking at bee pix.

I haven’t seen snowbird. Have stopped watching tv for real – quite enough foxface in *myface* via the papers.

Might not be a bad idea to sign up for a specific throwaway address at a free site, put out a call, and move folks to a better one when they reply. I’m sure there are more local folks, but haven’t pursued it.

A pull up a chair message might be good – high turnout place and lots of folks who don’t post often gather.

]]> By: Cujo359 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519941 Cujo359 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:56:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519941 <p>Christy, were you watching <i>Doctor Who</i> last night? If the line “You mean the bees are aliens?” doesn’t ring a bell, I guess this article is just coincidence.</p> <p>Anyway, yes, I wish Congress would pay more attention to these things. I know it’s not possible to be completely up to speed on everything before Congress, but it would be nice if at least the subject matter experts on particular issues were paying better attention.</p> Christy, were you watching Doctor Who last night? If the line “You mean the bees are aliens?” doesn’t ring a bell, I guess this article is just coincidence.

Anyway, yes, I wish Congress would pay more attention to these things. I know it’s not possible to be completely up to speed on everything before Congress, but it would be nice if at least the subject matter experts on particular issues were paying better attention.

]]> By: Waccamaw http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519937 Waccamaw Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:49:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519937 <p>Sunny -</p> <p>Have you seen snowbird (from TN) at the Lake recently? Several of the names on my list sadly don’t seem to be around anymore (hopefully they are lurking). Will be glad to make the announcement provided Jane/Christy don’t mind; don’t have addies for more than one or two.</p> Sunny -

Have you seen snowbird (from TN) at the Lake recently? Several of the names on my list sadly don’t seem to be around anymore (hopefully they are lurking). Will be glad to make the announcement provided Jane/Christy don’t mind; don’t have addies for more than one or two.

]]> By: Waccamaw http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519934 Waccamaw Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:42:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519934 <p>Thankee muches…….and how’re ya doin’ these days? foxxface shows up on the idjit box and I think of you; tho’ keeeeth ain’t much better. :-(</p> Thankee muches…….and how’re ya doin’ these days? foxxface shows up on the idjit box and I think of you; tho’ keeeeth ain’t much better. :-(

]]> By: SunnyNobility http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519931 SunnyNobility Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:33:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519931 <p>I can be reached at my name here (no caps, two words separated by hyphen, at yahoo). Mostly use that addy for registrations, etc. so an online alert is good.</p> I can be reached at my name here (no caps, two words separated by hyphen, at yahoo). Mostly use that addy for registrations, etc. so an online alert is good.

]]> By: Waccamaw http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519928 Waccamaw Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:30:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/29/sweet-nothings-versus-honeyed-incentives/#comment-1519928 <p>Wizard! Am in SENC for the time being but will be *home* during the winter months. Adding you to the list of pups in our neck of the woods that I’ve been keeping for the last couple of years; actually, Sunny’s not too far from us as well.</p> Wizard! Am in SENC for the time being but will be *home* during the winter months. Adding you to the list of pups in our neck of the woods that I’ve been keeping for the last couple of years; actually, Sunny’s not too far from us as well.

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