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Evening ES be right back…

Aloha, ES!

retroactive immunity

Gee Teddy’s post is keeping every busy…
Well here is a Digg for the Post!

Good evening , CT

Dugg

Filth

Dugg!
Thanks nahant!

This is tragic!

Six killed as two helicopters crash in Arizona

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Six people were killed and one was seriously injured on Sunday when two medical helicopters collided on their way to a hospital in Flagstaff, Arizona, air officials said.

The helicopters crashed near Flagstaff at about 3.45 p.m. PDT (6:45 p.m. EDT), said Ian Gregor, a spokesman with the Federal Aviation Administration in Los Angeles.

Preliminary reports indicated at least one patient was among the three people killed in a helicopter operated by Air Methods Corp, Gregor said. The other four fatalities, as well as the injury, occurred aboard a helicopter operated by Classic Helicopter of Utah, he added.

Oh man…

hmm, the video won’t play for me

got a link, Eureka?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOql8F_6ac0

Hey Eureka, hey everyone…can’t sleep, thought I’d hang out here for a bit.

Nice song!

Hey CT @10, I heard about that crash earlier; the news here said that authorities weren’t letting any news crews anywhere near that scene. Must have been awful, and a hell of a scene to investigate.

Headed for the news box now.

Tragic, for sure. Why would medical emergency helicopters be in private hands?/s

SUre, one sec.. Here’s the entire new Al Green album (if you include songs on left of this page)

Thank you, nahant

I have an understatement award to hand out:

A significant problem, the study says, was the lack of detailed plans before the war for the postwar phase of the conflict, a deficiency that reflected the general optimism in the White House and in the Pentagon, led by the secretary of defense at the time, Donald Rumsfeld, about Iraq’s future, and an assumption that civilian agencies would assume much of the burden.

Twas nothing Es… happy to help out:>)

Finally, somebody had the moxie to say it…

Clark: Getting ’shot down in plane’ doesn’t make McCain qualified

(CNN) — Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John McCain’s military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.
Retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who ran for president in 2004, questioned John McCain’s qualifications Sunday.

Retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who ran for president in 2004, questioned John McCain’s qualifications Sunday.

The McCain campaign called for Obama to condemn the remarks.

The dust-up began with Clark’s appearance Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” where moderator Bob Schieffer asked him about his interview with the Huffington Post earlier this month.

In the interview, Clark said McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, was “untested and untried.”

When Schieffer asked to explain the comment, Clark said he was referring to McCain’s experience, or lack thereof, in setting national security policies and understanding the risk involved in such matters.

What, McInsane, the truth hurts…? ;-)

Neuro what browser are you using tonight??

Even more significant.. the lies which led us into it!

Suz taking a hiatus, LM? ;-)

So nice to see you, LL. You’ve been away, working hard?

Shhh! We can’t talk about THAT in a newspaper!

Clark throws a wicked elbow.
Ladies and Gentlemen - your nominee for Veep.

Some excellent family time. She will return tomorrow night.

Thanks ES, so nice to see you too :-)

A combination of the two; working hard, and taking a bit of a break from the toobz lately.

Bedtime for me too. Medical procedure tomorrow morning. Only 6 needles into the spine this time!

Suz deserves it… she always hosts a great late late night!

Why does the word NADER spew forth in my mind when you say any military persons name for VP? *g*

G’night Betsy, sending good thoughts your way and I hope the procedure goes well for you…

I sense a battle royal going on in the blogosphere and elsewhere for the soul of the progressive movement.

The “pragmatists” believe that, to get elected, it is necessary to pander to the “cowards,” i.e., those who wish to trade their and others’ liberties for security.

The “purists” believe that it is wrong to trade liberties for security under any circumstances and will do what they can to prevent it.

The “clueful,” e.g., Glenzilla, realize that any attempt to pander to cowards is harmful to progressive candidates. Cenk Uygur eloquently expresses that view, with which I heartily agree, in this video.

If you like to argue such things, check out this Dkos diary.

Two words:
Big.Shoes.

I cancelled all premium television this summer.. If it weren’t for Moyers and cspan.. I would put my tele in the closet. Giving up the toobz, may require rehab. *g

Only Six??? Hope they help Betsy…. I get to spend my day at Standford Medical till 8PM… will be under the microscope and what ever else they can think of…

I hope he throws a few more…! He wouldn’t be a bad choice for Veep, it’d certainly burnish Obama’s military and foreign policy creds, Clark was once NATO’s CinC…

LL! Hugs and happy to see you. Making you a nice
cuppa tea.
c(_)>~~~

Yeah. The ones in the springtime were 13 each time. Now we’re down to 6.

That she does…! *g*

Glenn and Digby were at thier best today.

Nite Betsy!

I’m not a big fan of Clark. But his electability is off the charts, IMO.

You think? It would be a safe choice, military credentials and a former Hillary supporter. Really smart guy.

Aw thank you ((( Margot ))) !

Hang in there, Betsy. I haven’t seen any NYC meet up pics yet.

One is one too many…! Pain free sleep wishes, M’dear! *g*

here they are: http://picasaweb.google.com/Te.....-6thXTEXgc

I’m luke-warm to him, too!

Yippee, thank you!

Electability is the thing - either Obama picks the best person to be the Veep,or he picks the best electoral assist.
I don’t see anyone who provides both.
I don’t know that Clark would be a great Veep, and I don’t think some of the really bright Veep candidates help him electorally.

Quayle ring any bells…? ;-)

Sometimes less really is less.

potatoe

mashed

Hey ES, not trying to steer the conversation away from the veepstakes — but are you into the Folkways sound at all? Lately I’ve become fascinated by Dock Boggs…

Evening, Mary! Describing his brain, eh?

yep.
How are you CT?

What’s the latest prognosis? I remember being so happy to hear about your good medical news.

I like a lot of old hillbilly music.. only catch bits and pieces of it here and there. Isn’t Folkways a record label?

LL, since when do we ever stay on topic during late, late nite, anyways! How’s Virginny?

Sending you all good thoughts - hope you can have water and some nourishment along the way. (((((nahant)))))

LL, since when do we ever stay on topic during late, late nit

yeah, what CT said.. *g

Fine, fixing to call my two Senators and chew’em out for voting yea on cloture, in the morn…

There’s a topic?

Smithsonian, actually :-) Should have worded my comment better. I listen to a lot of “The Village”, on XM, and they feature a lot of this kind of stuff.

I trust that Clark is a good guy. I’d prefer to see Hillary herself, rather that a Hill supporter though.

Indescribable…
I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican.
Dan Quayle
I have made good judgements in the Past. I have made good judgements in the Future.
Dan Quayle
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
Dan Quayle
Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child.
Dan Quayle

The Old Dominion is hot and dry lately, CT — the grass here is getting parched! We keep seeing these fearsome looking thunderstorms on radar, but they weaken as they go over the mountains and bypass my area completely :-(

I hate that word-cloture. Sounds like someone has something stuck in their throat. cccloo—turre

The original Bushisms…! ;-)

thanks, nahant

Gave up tv a few mos ago, back to books big time. Love having unwelcome voices out of the house.

Kinda says it all…

Toast = VA
Burned Toast = Norcal

!988 and Quayle was the clarion-call to America - that in 2000, the Goopers were going to cough up a bigger hairball - Chimpy.
We weren’t listening.

Agreed.. Would seem rude to not go with Hillary if Obama picks anyone as or more conservative than her or her supporters. Pick a progressive or pick Clinton for petes sake.

Aw Mary, I’ve been hearing about how bad it is out your way — praying for some relief for you all…

Yes. My TV has been limited to Olbermann, and I’m enjoying that less and less. I may give up the TV the same way I did my land line.

For me they say again now the c word so I am will be going through the full evaluation for transplant of liver.. scanned poked prodded scanned again poked again… had to answer a whole bunch of question about how I feel and think and all sorts of stuff all tomorrow. At the end of July meet the whole transplant team at Stanford including social workers, psychs, docs of all sorts and again who knows what else… As for my lady she is doing great today after Angioplasty last Friday… Well I guess

This one goes out to all the politicians.

Until you just said that I didn’t think of it that way, but now I have to clear my throat.

What do you make of big Bill Clinton’s tantrum on Obama - I wondered if he is simply incapable of restraint or simply incapable of accepting the reality Hill lost the election.

I must say, Obama and Hillary sure looked great together the other day in NH.

I am using Opera. I have finally figured out how to click on a video link in an FDL post, then listen while I open a new tab for FDL.

One problem, though. Earlier today (yesterday) I tried to open my AOL e-mail account and it would go to the mail page, but the space where the e-mails are supposed to be listed would be blank. Haven’t checked back to see if it is still doing that.

foreshadowing a hair ball.

Who would have thunk it?

Heh, this is a memorable saga…

Murphy Brown is doing better than I am. At least she knows she still has a job next year.
Dan Quayle, 8/18/92

And he stands behind ‘em all…

I stand by all the misstatements that I’ve made.
Dan Quayle, to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/89

Priceless…!

Hugs, hugs, and more hugs.

Oh ((( nahant ))) Healing thoughts to you.

Gave up AOL long long time ago…. You do know what the letters stanf for don’t you???

Assholes On Line!!

Hi NPB. I have heard the rumors about Bill in a tizzy, but haven’t seen any well-sourced material. Have you got something?

Even if it’s true though, it’s kinda showing a sweet side of ‘ol Bill. He doesn’t want anyone stepping on his wife!

best wishes to Betsy and nahant with their med procedures. hope any pain or discomfort is minimal.

Best of luck, big guy! My thoughts and prayers to you and yours…! *g*

wow. ok.

Laura D. could use some of our collective thoughts and prayers too — I believe she is scheduled for hand surgery on Monday.

LL, you probably know of Jean Ritchie. I have an old ten inch record of hers. (Kentucky Folk Songs)

Thank you LH & LL and all the late late night Pups… We ARE family even if we are all a long way physically apart… I see that almost every night here! And not just for me but for all the great pups! I should be alright… if you have to have this happen Stanford is one of the best places in the world to be/have on your side..

What a freak accident! Never a dull moment…!

what e-mail do you use?

Okay, I have been the xone of trying to do 1) practical stuff and 2) fun stuff.

Practical: I found a link to a site, followed some advice there, and my OLD PC is running faster and better:

http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/supertweaks.htm
http://www.blackviper.com/

Fun: Dogs that Surf!
http://www.latimes.com/theguid.....ry?index=4

I know, right? Sheesh, poor thing :-(

Laura took pains to note that the fish are ok, though. Sounds like Laura.

Wow.. I always caught bits and pieces of hints about health troubles, but didn’t know the whole story. You sure keep up wonderful spirit. I’ll be sending some good thoughts your way, nahant.

Yea. Only he can do that. He stepped on her with Monica and who knows who else. He is a schmuck.

ES, Jean Ritchie is new to me — wow, that is some good stuff!

Scratch my surface a bit and you’ll find some hillbillies named Warden who made their way from Appalachia out to MO and KS. I love that style of music.

Exactly! ;-)

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newst.....pport.html

Do you have dogs too?

Oh Nahant! My thoughts will be with you. Hugs.

Well need to catch up on some of the sleep I missed with my ladies stuff and tomorrow I will need to have my wits and what ever else I need together…
Sleep well all of you and will see you next late late night and please bring your shovels and do the digging the Lake needs for the support that makes this such a great pl;ace to hang out…
Night Night all:>)

That reminds me of this… ;-)