Huge fires make tiny particles that kill people and permanently damage kids’ lungs. City folk exposed to diesel fumes demonstrate this by dropping dead or growing up to have asthma. With fires burning throughout Northern California, lots of rural and suburban folks are sucking in those particles with every breath.
Fires burning throughout Northern and Central California continue to blow smoke into the Sacramento region. Currently, several hundred fires are burning. This unhealthy air quality is forecast at least thru Sunday.
Sunday. Tomorrow. That’s a long time to hold your breath.
Think the folks in Sacramento sucking down "unhealthy" levels of tiny deadly particles have it bad? They’re living in the lap of luxury compared to the people farther south down the Central Valley. Yesterday the San Joaquin Valley folks in Kings and Tulare counties breathed "very unhealthy" levels of tiny deadly particles. Which, of course, means they breathed very unhealthy air. With every breath.
Think this is just a California problem? Guess again. The vast area of the Western US which forms the watershed for the Colorado River is also drying. Which means massive fires are more likely in the Southwest. You don’t live in the Rockies or Southwest? Global warming is also expected to double the Northwest land area consumed by fires. You live east of the Rockies? The tiny deadly particles from western fires can travel much of the way across the continent. The folks in northeastern North Carolina don’t have to wait for the west wind to bring them tiny particles from Western fires: the drought across the Southeast brought North Carolina their very own fires — and their very own dangerous air.
In South Carolina — as in in Tulare and Kern counties at the south end of California’s Central Valley –the air this weekend carries so many tiny deadly particles that simply breathing is "very unhealthy". That’s called Code Purple. And I thought "Code Blue" was bad. What does Code Purple mean?
"Health Alert: Everyone may experience more serious health effects"
So in the Code Purple areas, the air carries so many tiny particles that everyone breathing may experience serious health effects.
What could be worse?
"Code Maroon: Health warnings of emergency conditions. The entire population is more likely to be affected"
This year’s fire season came early: in Northern California, the drought is so severe that June looks like August. What will August look like? Code Maroon?
Except for Hawaii and some of western Alaska and Canada, this summer nearly everyone in North America will be breathing the tiny particles born in fire that will snuff out some of our lives. Even without wildfires, you’ll have trouble avoiding the particles: the coal fired power plants that grow more numerous as you move east across the continent also supply us with the deadly small particles. Hey — and they give us more global warming gases, too: a lethal two-fer.
Diesel engines pour the fine particles into the air over agricultural regions and city streets. For parts of the country that still burn their trash, incinerators make huge "contributions" of tiny particles to the lucky folks who live downwind. Yum.
Jeebus — what are these tiny particles, anyway? Well, they’re named "fine particles" — not because they are such fine company, but because they are so small.
Fine particles (PM2.5). Particles less than 2.5 micrometers in diameter are called "fine" particles. These particles are so small they can be detected only with an electron microscope. Sources of fine particles include all types of combustion, including motor vehicles, power plants, residential wood burning, forest fires, agricultural burning, and some industrial processes.
Where have we heard recently about tiny inhaled particles with deadly effects? Oh yeah — the nanoparticles known as carbon nanotubes.
But I digress: that’s another story.
So what it is these PM2.5 particles do in us?
The particles easily get into the eyes and respiratory system, where they can cause health problems such as burning eyes (conjunctivitis), irritated throat, runny nose (sometimes associated with an allergic response), and illnesses such as bronchitis (cough). Fine particles also can worsen chronic heart and lung diseases. Because death rates from these conditions have been noted to rise in a smoky environment, the smoke has been linked to premature deaths in people with these conditions, in a fashion analogous to increased mortality during heat waves.
Persons who are more susceptible to ill effects at lower smoke levels are those heart disease (congestive heart failure, symptomatic angina, cardiomyopathy), lung disease (asthma, reactive airway disease, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease [COPD]), and any medical condition in which oxygen delivery and heart and lung function are essential for health and wellness.
What can you do? In the short term, getting away from the smoke is the best individual solution — but that’s only available to those who can pull up roots and leave town for cleaner air. In California at the moment, the clean air is along the coast in the far north.
For those who can’t leave the area, staying indoors, using air filters, and avoiding exercise help decrease exposure.
For the long-term: post-carbon economy. We’re dying for it.
graphic: airnow.gov



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Hi Kirk!
Had some smoke from southern Arizona fires up in the northern part of th state this last Friday.
Aloha, Doc!
kirk!
ZeD!
Great post Kirk… the insidious effects of Global Warming are far greater than the 1600 Crew would have us believe at the behest of their Masters Coal and Oil.
Remember, EPA stands for Every Person Asphyxiated. The world according to Preznit Oh-Zone is coming to pass.
And we all will too if these policies prevail much longer.
I grew up in Redding, California so we would get smoked filled days during the summer fire season. My family lives near some of the north state fires so I am sure they are getting some smoke right now.
I have daughter and granddaughter living in Oroville and the fires up there have been burning for a couple of weeks now. The air is terrible, it’s very hot, and everyone is afraid for their homes. I worry about them all.
We have Madame Pele taking care of that for us, Doc! ;-)
all those staying inside running their air conditioning to avoid the smoke need to keep their systems on the recycle setting so it is not pulling in the smokey air from outside and also need to change the a/c filters often. that smoke will clog them fast and then they do no good.
In science it is often difficult to say that any one event in something as complex as the weather can be directly attribuatable to global warming but what we are seeing is remarkably consistent with it. Long term drought in the Southwest and the Southeast with concomitant fire risk especially in the West, greater precipitation in the Midwest, and greater disruption in and variation from traditional weather patterns.
It isn’t just the fires, Dr. Murphy..my understanding is that geography and topography play a very big role also, which is why certain areas get socked in with bad air and it just sits there and gets worse and worse.
I’d buy stock in Ionic Breeze
And Duct Tape
And Plastic Sheets
Then go out and buy a bunch of each, cuz yer gonna need it!
Yeah, but Madam Pele is doing is what she’s supposed to do. Not really such a problem unless you live near it, and then it would suck I guess…
Whats not to like about global warming? Hmmm growing up I played Ice Hockey everyday of Christmas Break because by Christmas the entire lake was frozen so solid I could skate to the other side.
Today though and for the last few years there is a big unfrozen hole in the middle of the lake.
That and many birds are not even bothering to go south in the winter.
dugg your excellent post, doc
I’d buy stock in companies that make Albuterol and nebulizers. We’ll see an increase in asthma.
Heh, Exactly! We’ve had several episodes recently where you can taste the sulfur in the air…! Btw, can ya email your number, I’d really like to talk to ya…! I have free long distance…!
Welp, believe it or not, someone has launched a write-in campaign to re-elect Chimpy Clusterfuck.
we already are
there are 11 1/2 years between my two girls. asthmatic kids were rare when the first was going to elementary school – when the second was in elementary school, the kids were lined up at the nurses office between classes to get their ‘dose’.
What can we do to reduce water usage and maybe reforest dead areas, and prevent forest fires?
Hi folks – thanks for joining in and for your comments. And suz, thanks for the digg! Christy’s observed that 30 diggs help launch a piece for wider consideration: I’m hoping we’ll get that many tonight and raise the
plumeprofile of the increased fire activity predicted as a part of global warming….along with the deadly immediate consequences of increased fire activity.Good Gawd…
Whew…
Right you are! Even the CDC uses duct tape to keep us all safe.
What are they mad? Has the Elgin Mental Health Center lost another
inmateer guest of the state?Hugh, I really appreciate your observation and the precision behind it. Thanks!
Is duct tape on sale? What do the Bushies use to cleanse their home?
Hey Matt – congrats on the Zed. sorry for the export…pretty poor exchange for all the Colorado River water CA sucks up…
maids :)
Don’t large tree forests lower ground temperatures?
Suzanne – I grew up in the area that I’m living in now..Upstate New York. When I was in high school, 40 years ago, I did not know of one kid who had asthma. Hay fever, a couple. But not asthma. My children had several friends each who have serious asthma, one of which used to spend at least once a year in the hospital for it. Something has changed.
Oh, please, please, PLEASE tell me that it’s satire… Mencken was right. You’ll never go bankrupt
underestimatingmisunderestimating the stupidity of Americans.It’s my understanding that the AIR temperature underneath trees is significantly lower than that above the tree line. I don’t know about the ground temps.
I lived less than 100 miles south of Mt St Helens when she blew her top. I can only imagine what the air in CA is like with the fires. It was bad enough in LA when I lived there in the mid-70’s. Fires in the Angeles National Forest all the time.
Same here growing up maybe 2 kids I knew had asthma now tons of parents from my old neighborhood have asthma.
Servants.
Is that serious? I thought I would cry/scream, so I quit looking. I almost took a peek just to find out who in the world…have someone committed. And be quick, please.
None of my three kids has any allergies and my son claims it’s because we farmed and raised livestock when they were young..he figures that the smell of the barn killed any problems they might have had.
Lower temperatures should reduce ground level water evaporation I would think.
Yes, and they call him Mr. President.
Hi CT! Hope Madam Pele is kind to you all this year….
JoFish, love your EPA definition. Completely agree with your point about lethal consequences from global warming/global climate change. That’s why I hope to see “Global warming deniers” frozen out of public discussions in the way we now exclude “Holocaust deniers” from the public sphere. The Holocaust was evil, and I have nothing to which to compare such evil. Yet in terms of the number of people killed, global warming is on track to kill far more than the six million who perished in the Holocaust. I’m hoping the world learned something from failing to stop the Holocust.
As I watch the Anthropocene replace the Holocene, that hope can be hard to sustain at times….
Nothin’ wrong with a harmless lunatic. Probably keep him out of trouble.
We humans are the only species stupid enough to destroy our own habitat. This is a serious problem and going to get worse. We need to force the gov’t to get the info out so that people can start to help themselves and others before we pass the tipping point – if we haven’t already.
God decides:
Now we can cancel the election!
I’ve noticed the same thing. I grew up in NYC and I don’t think I knew a kid with asthma. Epilepsy, yes, we had one kid in school in the 50s with epilepsy. Can’t recall asthma. Nowadays it seems that 1 in 5 kids has some sort of breathing problem. And don’t get me started on ADHD… One of the major changes in my lifetime has been food additives and fast/junk food. I don’t know if there’s a correlation, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
up to 8 diggs now kirk
Hmmm we all played in the woods as kids and we had no problems. Maybe keeping kids indoors to much might be another contributing factor along with the increase in pollution.
Twain, I so hope your granddaughter and daughter in Oroville — and their nighbors — come though this OK. As respiratory rate increases drive increased exposure,t eh logical “prescription” is to avoid exercise. What a cruel “solution” for kids in summer….
great points, suz!
Hey, pups!
Very interesting, Dr. Kirk.
I wonder if easterly winds from So Cal blowing particles is the reason for a mysterious (to me) increase in allergy symptoms here in South Central Texas.
Not just me with runny nose, burning eyes and occasional sneezing (despite being completely dosed w/ allergy meds), but lots of people I work with.
While our area pretty much has some allergen in the air year-round, this is usually the time of year I’m pretty symptom-free.
And, speaking of the distances particles blow – several years ago we had air-quality warnings, and smoggish skies, due to forests burning in southern Mexico and Central America. That was startling at the time.
Dang Reagen didn’t he open the asylums and then we suddenly had a homeless problem.
I never once gave a thought about what the effects on society might be of letting rich crazy people go free.
I’m proud to be Digg #11.
Of course, my daughters’ analysis of ‘why we don’t have allergies’ is that I am…ahem…a..rather…lackadaisical housekeeper. I admit it. I embrace it. I come from a long line of poor housewives, which means that there weren’t a whole lot of chemicals in my house being used to clean with…because other than a bit of bathroom scrubbing, I didn’t do a whole lot of cleaning. And, it probably also helped that while they were growing up, our house had old, wood, leaky windows. They had to wear a whole bunch of sweaters in the winter time, but I’m sure the ‘air exchange’ in this house was pretty darned good.
TOby, your points about topography and geography are dead on (literally). Those reasons are why both the south San Joaquin Valley and LA’s “Valleys” (San Gabriel and San Fernando) have air qulaity far worse than the coastal areas: prevailing winds blow the dirty air up agisnt the mountains, trapping most of it.
ANd your observations about increased frequency of astham are dead-on, too.
turns out one correlation with decreased risk of adult allergies is growing up as a little one with pets — and (IIRC) outside play in the dirt.
I wish Frank Probst wer about: this would be right up his specialty.
I was raised by a woman, a single parent, who loathed housework. I spent every day I could grubbing in the dirt in Central Park. The adage when I was a kid was “it takes a peck of dirt to make a man.” Sanitize everything and you’ll cripple a child’s developing immune system. Nothing to fight, no need to grow and get strong… Dusting SUCKS!
That has been suggested by some researchers, I think. Along with the prevalence of anti-bacterial soaps and cleaners—we may be preventing the kind of inoculating (probably not the right term) exposure humans have usually had to all kinds of germs, thus being more sensitive to them later.
I’ve been trying to buy non-anti-bacterial soaps, etc., lately, but they are very hard to find. Finally found a liquid soap not so labeled, and I guess Comet and Ajax scouring powder aren’t anti-bacterial, so maybe better than spray cleaners. All of the spray cleaners’s labels seem to scream “ANTI-BACTERIAL!”
thanks Marion and all who Dugg!
Never had a allergy in my life until I was about 45. Now I take 3 meds a day for allegies and they don’t completely work but do help. Hate to think what the future holds for kids who have never had clean air to breathe.
(((Southern Dragon)))
Heh. See my 53. We also always had pets.
i was taught that ya gotta get exposed to the germs to get the system going. yes, my mom did let me play with the kid next door who had chicken pox just so i would get it.
i did the same with my girls. yes, they had to wash their hands and take baths but they were kids – their job was to get dirty playing and having fun.
Right, really scary.
another danger of “anti-bacterial” cleaning agents is that they tend to foster resistant strains that are all the more difficult to kill
also, on topography and trapping pollutants: thermal inversions can also make this worse … in addition to the L.A. Basin, Phoenix often suffers from this
Dirt was my favourite toy. It was free and you could do wonderful things with it.
Boy, oh boy, does that ever bring back memories! In second grade my very best friend and I had chicken pox at the same time, over the long Christmas holiday. It was heaven — we got to play with each other every day, and nobody else could play with us!
Yep. And greatly increase retention of water from rain/snow, as well as increasing ground/surface water. Part of restoring forest cover in the Rockies/southwest will be stopping logging on public lands. Another – larger – part is reducing global warming gas to 360 ppm carbon dioxide. The largest part will be finding renewable-energy powered scrubbers to decrease CO2 levels ASAP: and moving to post carbon economy.
You bet! I was thrilled when they invented it. (Yep, I’m an old broad!)
(((Dr Murphy)))
My daughter was known to issue an invitation to come over & play dirt…Not everyone understood ; )
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LOL, Toby! Wish I could say the same. I come from a long line of proud, super-clean Pennsylvania Dutch housewives. Don’t know what happened to me; I’l love to keep the house tidy and neat and very clean, but can’t seem to keep things that way.
During my semi-hippie phase in Boston in the ’70’s, I recall going to PA and MD, visiting my parents and my aunt (Mom’s sister) and feeling almost uncomfortable with the sparkling cleanliness of their houses.
However, they’re of a generation that didn’t use “new-fangled” chemical cleaners much; just lots of scrubbing w/ soap and scouring powder.
Yep..I was the neighborhood “Typhoid Mary”…I got everything..and got it bad, so the neighbors used to bring their kids around to get a dose of whatever I had(sort of the childhood disease version of that deli scene from “When Harry Met Sally”).
Let’s start a movement that cleaning is bad for you. I could really go for that. :)
I am so on the cutting edge.
start with my real estate agent please…
southern at 62–you should try pottery……..
what do the yellow areas on the map up above represent?
Are you kidding They don’t clean their house they hire immigrants to do it for them @ below minimum wages… They would never get their hands dirty to actually clean THEIR own HOMES.
Oh yeah Do Digg it for Kirk he always brings us great Posts on our environment every Saturday…
Sounds like my house :)
That CERTAINLY would work for me. However, if you’ve looked at the aisles in the supermarket lately if we did away with the 102 varieties of liquid dish soap we’d probably tank the economy even worse, and the store would be half empty…
Yeah, I’m with you! (mmm, well, up to a point. PA Dutch families induce guilt over sloppy housekeeping as well as certain more notorious ethnic groups). (When my new neighbor knocked a little while ago, I only opened the door far enough to keep the clutter out of view. Guilt!)
When mom said, “Get out of the house, go out and play” it was an open invitation to go roll in the dirt with the pupper. Kids, dogs and a big dirt pile. You could hear the moms all over the neighborhood, in chorus, “What have you been doing with the dog!?”
My great grandmother was a pig farmer; she used her kids to clean her house. Ditto for my grandmother(she had seven kids who survived and they did a whole lot of cleaning while she sat out in her rose garden with her tea). My mother had the luxury of a cleaning lady(a gift from my father when she herniated a disc in her back) and she too did a lot of time out in the garden. I’m just bone lazy. I taught all of my kids to wash dishes, do laundry and wash their hands when they came in from the barn.
I have a magnet that says, “My other house is cleaner.”
Clutter is cool. Clutter means you’re actually living life. Filth is different. Embrace your clutter!
Didn’t George Carlin say something about swimming in the Hudson? river as a kid to build immunity.
I spent 7 years on a farm, lived another several years in the country, then after college 2 years in Kenya as a Peace Corps Volunteer (no running water or electricity) but I still get allergies.
Breast feeding also primes a new born’s immune system…
The shelves would be empty. I like to clean with vinegar – will clean almost anything. When I feel like it.
I’m a bachelor with a house full of tigers. I could give seminars.
what else can the pups do to avoid the smoke? should we be thinking about those white face masks when we go outside?
When I was a kid, before Pete Seeger started his crusade, you could have WALKED across the Hudson it was that filthy. Pete, bless his heart, started a movement that cleaned that river up.
Uh, that made quite an image – before I read a little farther!
Hey, that’s the stuff that really matters. Especially the hand-washing part.
Maybe all this world of clutter and casual cleaning is why we have time for the Lake…my guilt/stress are lifting about clutter, stuff, etc.
My grandfather who was about as liberal/progressive as the day is long went to his grave finally believing that Nuclear power was the best solution for the health of out planet. I have to wonder what the general feeling is about opening/rebuilding existing or new construction nuclear plants if it meant the short-term solution of shutting down coal plants, and other fossil-fuel based electrical generating stations.
The problem of waste disposal surely can’t be so problematic that it will beat us forever… or maybe it can, I don’t know. But if a NIMBY attitude of nuclear waste disposal prevails, how good will that have served us if we are all dead from the fine particulate matter Kirk talks about?
Curiousity speaking, I guess.
Oh, I like your point of view!
And my clutter is intellectual clutter, y’know – books and papers and stuff. Only the better sort of clutter in my house!
Stems & seeds here
You may be on to something, there. I shudder to recall the state of my place during the Libby trial. I was glued to the computer all day when not at work. Hard to vacuum and scrub from there.
Well, the problem with nuclear waste is that it remains dangerous for, what? 10,000 years? How about “NOMP” (Not On My Planet)?
Guilt? What guilt? As long as I don’t see stuff growing somewhere I’m cool. *g*
Forty years ago homes and home furnishings were made almost wholly of wood and metal and fiber (and a bit of linoleum). Very little synthetic material compared to current materials.
Now the vast majority of people bring home home furnishings (or live in homes constructed with) petroleum based products that “out gas” — slowly give off gas/vapors that contain sythetic molecules. That “new shower curtain” smell: vinyl choride compounds. New carpet smell: synthetic risinis and fibers. That new furniture? Unless you checked, chances are it’s laminate: wood pieces held together with sythetic glue. Same thing with plywood.
The most famous example has becoome the FEMA trailers — but without widepsread public knowledge, thee vast majority of Americans get a blast of toxins from their own homes and furnishings.
Yet another reason the precautionary principle is so powerful — and so badly needed.
What we don’t know can kill us — and is.
Yeah, but with this particulate matter building up and the downhill consequences (like when do we reach the equivalent of a irreversible “nuclear winter” equivalent) how much of that 10,000 years will include recorded human history?
I like how you think. Plus, I can feel some better about being in a pretty focused stage, which will pass, of getting rid of d’ stuff.
another reason i prefer keeping the doors and windows open to let the place air out, kirk. we can all do simple things, like sweep instead of running the vacuum on non-carpeted floors, using CFL’s instead of incandescents, using the bike as PW has been teaching.
I spent all afternoon reading “Pull up a chair” instead of cleaning, especially windows. Twain — after years of adult allergies and Nasonex, and finally a doctors script for more of the same and otc meds, I threw them all away and took up nasal cleansing with a Neti pot, purchased at Whole Foods. Once a day has kept me free from all meds since February. Not all days are great, but I can breathe for the first time in years.
I am opposed to nuclear plants but if the population keeps exploding and the fuels are running low, I think in the future it will be nuclear power. Can’t think of anything else, right now at least, that will be the answer. And I don’t think we will have much to say about the decision.
there is a theory being thrown around that a lot of increased allergies are due to the hybridizing of trees……new allergens that our bodies don’t know what to do with…….think about how many new trees have been introduced in our lifetimes….and the introduction of non-native species that become invasive by multipying overnight-russian olive is one, huge allergen here…and in the spring, all these ’new’ trees go ’pow’ when they flower…….
haven’t heard much info about other plants and flowers-annuals and perenials, but i imagine the same thing would apply. hundreds a year are introduced……..
That may actually wind up being the ultimate solution. Shoot the stuff into the sun or out of our solar system. (I prefer the former, why give it to someone else…)
One of the most trenchant critiques of nuclear vs renewable is simply that of cost.
Nuclear receives massive subsidies (including its very own subsidy for special liability treatment). Even with the subsidies, solar and wind are more cost-effective.
I wish I could post the linkies: they’re on the other computer….
Never heard of a Neti pot but am certainly willing to try whatever it is. Have a Whole Foods very close. Thanks a lot.
Great news, Christine!
(I call mine the “yeti pot”…)
I work for ENT docs and they’d be among the first to tell you to keep on using your Neti pot. It’s simple, effective, and does a great job of removing the allergen load from your nose and sinuses.
So maybe replace hemp instead of wood paper pulp then might help? Hemp uses less chemicals, now depending on the kind of paper you are making you can have acid and base chemical pollution coming out of the same plant.
My dad who worked on structurally impaired coal chimneys with acid problems had never seen anything like it. He had to make lots of calls to the concrete company to find something that would work before they had to replace the whole chimney.
Acid and base damage together depending on what kind of paper is being made that day has to be twice as bad, cause how can the body compensate for opposite type damage that quick?
Now that might be some technology worth exploring, especially using the new generation of Trans-Atmospheric Vehicles to stage it for “disposal”. Nice thought anyhow. Beats Yucca Mountain.
Okay – now which do I ask for at Whole Foods? Anyone else have a name they would like to throw in to confuse me completely? ;0
I became horribly allergic to the interiors of cars, coughing and sinus dumping, and generally feeling like someone was stepping on my throat. Much, much better now.
Should have said “Experimental” TAV’s being worked on.
up to 13 diggs – lets try to get it over 30 to increase the readership – there’s lots of folks who need to know about the great stuff doc has in this post
Organic Furniture might be the new trend if we get a real person in the FDA or would that be covered by the EPA?
I have to sweep. The vacuum frightens the tigers so bad they’re off their feed for a for a day. Nor will they come near me for a while. Broom actually does a better job with the hair than that Hoover anyhow. I’m old enough to remember when the janitors in buildings spread some sand-like substance down in order to collect all the dirt and hair on the floor with those big push brooms. Litter tracked all over the house does the same thing. Terrazzo floors. Cool in summer and winter.
Good question…plus, what is it?
Who is this “digg” of whom you speak?
One thing we can all do as individuals is reduce our own carbon footprints.
Reduction is far more powerful than purchasing offsets: much of the carbon “offsets” are just a racket.
One of the better footprint calculators is from the Nature Conservancy.
That sand-like stuff is called “sweeping compound”. They still use it. I has oil that keeps the dust down when you sweep.
It actually is the Neti pot. And they work. There’s some information about them here, along with other systems.
Look in the cosmetics/soaps/etc. dept. of Whole Foods. It is a funny looking white ceramic or plastic pot with a Pinocchio looking spout. Read the box and you will know it is the right thing. Buy Kosher salt without additives.
Oh,
/s
EPA (or state standards): indoor air quality.
oops – sorry for my dumb joke….
digg: here is their home page. you see news articles and such on it… many people read the digg to get the best of the best and use it to get news instead of going from site to site. digging recommends the post – the more recommends, the higher on the page it gets
Oh, Lordy! I remember that stuff from summer camp. It was more like sawdust that had been treated with something. It was also colored, so you wouldn’t miss any while you were sweeping.
Yeti is the Nepalese name for the Abominable Snowman in the Himalayas.
YES!
heh, i should try one of those. i usually just snort a little water out of the cup my hand :)
Thanks – sounds good. I will get one this week and let you know. I get awful headaches and if it will stop those I would feel that it was a success.
Not dumb but you didn’t tell me why you call it a yeti pot. BTW, this is a great post.
I just checked the filter on the ac.F**k me and Ron! I am going to kmart right now to get another one. Thanks for the reminder.
That I knew – does he have allergies, too?
lol twain at 111–another name for it?-snot pot…lol….and it takes a few tries to get the hang of it, lay a few towels around cuz you’re gonna have water everywhere and you don’t want an audience.
i know someone that used to give demonstrations, no big deal, not a drop of water or anything on her, and never missed the sink……she’d been doing it for years.
i know quite a few people that do it, even some of their kids, and it works for them.
Isn’t great we have cheered ourselves from nasty particles to gentle relief. What a group….maybe it takes a Dr., who knows. G’night all. Tomorrow is a work day. This was great. Bless our clutter.
707
Seen any Big Foots in Tampa area?
The most important thing to remember is to relax, and breathe through your mouth. Make the water a mild warm temp., and don’t let anyone make fun of you.
Yes. That’s why he feels so abominable. Poor thing…
LOL – the name works for me.
Sleep well, and remember — Embrace your clutter!
MMcC:
Try to get a re-useable filter.
Saves on landfill.
Just rinse once a month (or more often of conditions dictate) and pop it back in.
;~P’
excellent point.. many filters can be rinsed and reused.
No, but we got a lot of Pea Brains.
Really? Where might I find such a thing? I’m a dab hand with a hose in the back yard…
Thanks, Suz…
Am trying again. Set up account many moons ago, but could never get it to operate on my wavelength.
Password issues, etc.
Gonna give it the ‘ol Navy try!
N.A.V.Y. (Never Again Volunteer Yourself)
1984-88
Ooooo, Im feeling the peace. Thanks
I can testify about the nasal irrigation. It looks gross, but it is actually an excellent way to flush out one’s sinuses. An excellent idea for those breathing too many particulates. Or germs.
Plain water is bad– doesn’t feel good on sensitive nasal passages and sinuses. I just use about half a teaspoon of salt or less in a 6 oz. glass. Also, use lukewarm, body-temperature water. You gotta tilt your head a little if you want to flush out all the sinuses.
I was surprised to see the wiki article. That makes it legit, right? (*grin*)
Bob in HI
LOL!
g’nite marion
Try your local Home Depot or Lowe’s and even some of the chain supermarkets have them.
You have to admit that we talk about the strangest things at the Lake – no place like it.
Actually, for simple stuff like the Neti pot, replete with pix, I’ll trust them. For “issues,” not so much!
at my old house, i had two reusable filters, one to pop in clean while the other one dried……..
whoops – my fork up.. that should have been g’nite revdeb
WRT global warming, on the broadest level the Americans who constitute 4% of the global population use 25% of the fossil fuel built each year. Consumer “demand” comprises 70% of the US economy (IIRC).
And the US can no longer afford to import 25% of the planet’s fossil fuels, or to “field” the global armed forces used over the last half-century to maintain our below-cost access to commodities.
(The other tool that allowed us to live beyond our means — the dollar’s status as global reserve currency — was destroyed by the Bushies and the Chicago cult)
The challenge for moving to a post-carbon economy will be to replace the inflated artificial “demand” for useless crap (driven by tax deductable advertising and PR) with an economy driven by necessity: shelter, transport, food, education, and health care.
A big part of the transition will be increasing energy efficiency: the cheapest power is the power we don’t use. ANother big part is retooling and production for distributed solar/wind.
Replacing 100 types of toxic soap with a few stable modules for energy /transport will be part of making the transition to a post-carbon steady-state economy survivable for us all.
Most any major home improvement (Lowe’s, Home Depot, Etc) or True Value store, or try here.
Thanks. I’ll give that a try, although we’ve got a rather odd sized filter. I’m a newbie homemortgager (the bank actually still owns it…) so I need to learn about such things. I appreciate the suggestion!
“lol twain at 111–another name for it?-snot pot…”
I got mine years ago, called a “Narial Nasal cup“. It’s basically a Neti pot. I’ve never seen them in drug stores.
Bob in HI
Umm…due to operator error, my first several months of mistaken application left me streaming from both nostrils and reaching out with both arms for the nearest towel.
Most abominable.
There’s gonna be a lot of fighting to drill the oil under the melting sea ice to continue the planet on its oil-burning death spiral. McCain wants to keep on drilling, go nuclear, burn coal, then a little hat tip to wind and solar for the hippies. Obama leans more favorably toward wind and solar, but he likes coal too. Carbon burning must stop asap. With Obama, there’s a chance. McCain – big trouble.
There are kits that you can “make” you own size. Edges snap in 1″ increments and you cut the guts to fit. Voila!
;~P’
g’nite, RevBev: good dreams!
Oh, Doc,
You are hilarious! Two streams and Yeti reaching…
I just left Beijing. The pollution there was unbelievable. On what should have been a perfectly clear day, the sun was barely visible, an orange fire ball.
You’re right about the staggering demand for crap. When I was a kid there was something called Kirkman Borax Soap, a big old brown bar of soap that you could clean anything with. I haven’t seen it for years, probably because it wasn’t colored and scented and stuffed full of skin softeners and anti-bacterial agents.
add some white towels and definitely a yeti
What a mental picture!
Wow! I’m off to consult The Great Gazoogle. Thanks!
i worry about the pollution there with the olympics starting in august. not healthy at all.
I just snort the water hard and let it roll around my nasal until my eyeballs hurt.
I wonder how the Olympics will go… I wouldn’t want to try to run track and field, much less a marathon, in that.
i read they do cloud seeding to cause rain, to settle the dust. Saw pics on a Chinese blog about this. Horrible, tons of yellow dust piled up.
Yep. That’s why Dr. Hansen’s call is so important:
Ok this is my first Digg as thales11 not Things Come Undone the name was to long I think now how exactly does Digg work to convince people? advertisers that your post was good?
Thanks for mentioning you use a glass.
Since Neti pots began appearing everywhere I have been wondering why the pot is necessary. They’re not too cheap, after all.
Years ago I picked up a classic yoga book which recommended nasal cleansing; but no pot was mentioned. I think I might have used distilled water, but not sure…think I sniffed it from my hand.
I didn’t have allergies then, but have always been very susceptible to sinusitis and bronchitis. I was living in the heart of a city, where the air was very dirty compared to where I live now. Not sure if it helped or not; didn’t keep it up.
Try gizoogle (not recommended for air filter searches)
Transizlates web pages to snoop dogg and shiznit
;~)
I don’t know about the Borax soap, but I’m told Kirk’s Castile Soap is still arond…
Did you see any wind farms in China there is suppose to be a lot of orders for windmills from there.
Code Purple: “Don’t even go there.”
Might help some high profile types to see the light. China is beginning to attempt to curb its air pollution by limiting the use of automobiles. That’s only gonna do so much. Everyone will see that the emperor wears no clothes.
diggs work like the recommends do at the orange satan. the more diggs, the higher up the page the post shows -which spreads the word to people who are not regulars here at the lake like you and i are. we get more pups now who started off first reading the lake via diggs
Shameless plug?
bob at 149-”
I can testify about the nasal irrigation”
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i like the way you put that, genteel-like, nasal irrigation………would make it far easier to do thinking of it that way……and that’s what it is……
Don’t forget Murphy’s Oil Soap.
i’m seeing more green cleaning products and personal hygiene products (like soaps and toothpastes) at the regular stores and not just the natural food stores.
recommends do at the orange satan.
Orange Satan did Joe Lieberman get a tan?
sorry – snark for daily kos
Dr Bronner’s soaps are available at natural food stores. Liquid or bar. I’ve used them for 35 years. Kirk’s Castile Soap was available in the supermarket here until a few years ago. Used that too.
Things and Dr Bong, thanks so much for registering (or re-registering) to Digg.
I don’t know if Diggs do anything for advertisers.
What the Diggs do bring about is far more reader attention from the blogosphere: high Digg numbers are a very strong way to lift FDL posts to far greater public awareness and attention.
My goal in shamelessly Digg-pimping with this and some other eco-posts is to move concepts (like the fact global warming is already bringing us more fires, and more deadly smoke: visible confirmation of lethal processes) into greater public consciousness.
[How’s that for immodest?]
You know that vampires cannot go out in the sun fer krist’s sake.
Have you ever read the text on the Dr. Bronner’s bottles? Interesting. All words from the world’s major religions.
[dugg]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8sDIbRAXlg
http://www.colgate.com/app/Mur…..s_oil_soap
Neti pot demo for DFH, and Murphy’s Oil Soap site.
Yes what am I thinking I’ve watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer allot I know better the undead don’t tan just look at Karl Rove.
So the Orange Satan is ?
I lived in Wyoming in 1988, when the wildfires throughout the state turned the sun down all day long. Yellowstone (extreme NW WY) got all the publicity, but even as far away as Cheyenne (extreme SE WY) the sun was diffused and toned down, and the joggers were concerned about what they were inhaling.
Through the summer, college students and others signed up to fight the fires. By the end of August, the governor called out the National Guard, because the college folks had to go back to school.
Like 1988, this is *not* a simple “let’s get through the summer” situation.
no relation….when I was a kid I thought I was named for it (my Dad’s favorite soap)…but I was actually named after his friend’s daughter..who in turn was named after the women’s golf pro Peggy Kirk Bell.
see my 189
don’t know if anyone mentioned it, but bill moyers this week had a segment about global warming, ’cap and trade’ on emissions and climate security act with barbara boxer, conditions for workers in poultry plants and ”it was oil, all along”….was a good show
here’s the description page of his blog
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/
here’s the watch or listen or read transcript page all in one
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour…..watch.html
Makes great reading while on the throne. Also fun after a bowl. Or two.
Check out this shiznit
One more “digg” question: How far does one need to go to register a “digg”?
Sorry to be so dense.
Shanks!
There is no such thing as
extremismimmodesty in the defense oflibertythe Earth, it is no vice!dr bong – ya can push it.. they think i am an 83 year old damsel but they do like to think they are seeing real info
Great questions, suz. Does anyone have data/references on whether the commonly available face masks cut PM2.5 (and below).
[If I try to search the National Library of Medicine’s medline while doig this I’ll crash my browser…]
Thanks
Hey! I didn’t know there was going to be a test.
Life-first you get the test, then, you get the lesson.
Kos. Orange header, alleged by some to be the ruler of all things bloggy…!
well, except for vestments *g*
Sounds like a Buffy quote I just can’t recall the episode.
i answer to a higher authority – kobe the all-knowing poodle
Hey, we don’t get back to Lent for another 8 months or so.
*G*
Does staying inside for the rest of our lives help?
This is what I am really worried about. The fires get worse. Life is not compatible with the atmosphere. People have to start trying to figure out where to go. Where do you go? And if you cannot leave what do you do? And if you are the hyper vigilant type do you leave now? (that would be me)
But we know better, don’t we?
McCain sez he’s fer Cap’n Trade, but he likes Cap’n Crunch better.
Put down the bacon strips, and step away from the bowl . .
When can we expect a post on the North Pole melting and if it does melt will it freeze up in the winter? If it doesn’t all that dark water absorbing heat should make the next spring very warm.
Naw. My painting teacher told me that 25 years ago. No buffy there.
Hell, yeah!
Next year. Maybe.
There is No bloggish ruler. We are a true democracy ruled by the mob. The mob would be us. We is the mob.
It’s my turn to say good night, pups. I’m SO grateful about the tip on the air filters I could squeal! Sleep well, y’all.
“Thanks for mentioning you use a glass.”
I only use a glass to measure the amount of water to mix with the salt, because my nasal cup holds about 6 oz. I recommend the nasal cup, as it makes it a whole lot easier to guide the water through one nostril so that it can flow out the other nostril. Standing over a sink, of course.
It might also work to “inhale” the salty water from a glass, but the nasal cup works better, IMHO.
Bob in HI
Cap and trade is a joke the GOP will just cut funding to monitor pollution and let big business claim any number they want. Other countries might complain or even do their own monitoring but a GOP president would just have lawyers fight the issue in the world court for years.
Cap and Trade is Cap and Delay.
Good question. The map is the current national air quality index (AQI) from AirNow: a site created by a consortium of US gov’t agencies.
g’nite marion (for realsies this time)
I hope your daughter and granddaughter are safe. I am in the foothills east of Chico and the air quality is very bad. One area or another has been under precautionary evacuation for the last two weeks. About 74 homes have been lost in my town. Residents are advised to stay indoors. But, today is the first day I can see the sky.
I knowz sum guys in Joisy who might wanna talk wit youse about dat.
Nite, Marion.
Thanks – I hope that you are safe, too. I think Paradise must have gotten the worst of it.
Take care of yourself.
Dey live in Boikley?
Hey! I almost forgot! Highly relevant to many of the comments:
See The Story of Stuff with Annie Leonard
A 20-minute animation of the consumerist society, narrated by Anne Leonard, to view online or download. Includes footnoted script, credits, blog, …
http://www.storyofstuff.com/ -
It is a cartoonish video that lasts about 20 minutes. Good for all ages.
Bob in HI
thers has late nite upstairs
Thers Late Nite upstairs!
Late Night: The Conservative “Civility” Scam
For folks who have the luxury of leaving the area, the far north coast of CA and the Oregon coast have good air quality. If I lived under the smoke and had health problems (especially cardiopulmonary), I’d take my pets (or find some trusty person to care for them indoors) and head for the Oregon Coast campgrounds. Some have yurts!
The least expensive camping is on National Forest lands (some are on the Oregon Coast) and various county campgrounds.
That’s how Republicans improve water quality – they keep raising the PPM levels of allowable toxins. Ingenious!
Then, this past winter, there was a natural weather shift called the Arctic Oscillation, sort of a cold weather cousin to El Nino. That oscillation caused a change in winds and ocean that accelerated a normal flushing of sea ice in the Arctic. That pushed the older thicker sea ice that had been over the North Pole south toward Greenland and eventually out of the Arctic, Serreze said. That left just a thin one-year layer of ice that previously covered part of Siberia.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..02750.html
So how often do Arctic Oscillations occur cause if we have another one next year thee might not be any ice at the North Pole from the looks of the map.
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I keep getting visuals of Felix Unger
Not sure why
g’nite, Marion — sleep well.
(((peony))) – take care.
hackworth at 215–cap’n crunch!!!! maybe that’s who he’s been tryin’ to imitate these past few months!!!! and cap’n crunch was in the navy, too!!!!
Hee-hee!
With that, I’m off to make dinner.
Thanks to you all for sharing your ideas and experiences today!
Yep they did that to mercury in water wells around Gilberts Illinois its amazing how many people are scared of Mercury.
Hawaiian salt works the best for the snot pot…! ;-)
on npr beale street show, joe cocker singing ’you can leave your hat on’ at a blues festival……wittiest and most clever song of randy newmannnnnn…….cracks me up every time i hear it…….
Nite Marion I’m pretty sure Buffy said the same thing about tests:)
Sacramento is was at 167 this morning. Second day in a row. We have really not been out of the house since last Sunday. Only for groceries and rum. Rum is my new jeebus.
Thers is upstairs with Conservative civility not!
yeah – i knew that cat
same shit for breakfast every day
i was all “where’s the bacon and scrambled eggs” and shit and he was all “where’s my crunchberries?”
Time for da kid to leap into his tree.
Parting shot – a little levity
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
slàinte
db
Thanks so much, also for writing about the Northern CA fires. 8>)
‘Lo to Kirk & CTuttle, & anyone I missed!
Thanks for this superb post Kirk – here on the Monterey peninsula we haven’t seen any sun all day – grey smokey skies from the awful fires in Big Sur. Coastal breezes raining fine but steady ashes. Check your mailbox when you come up for air. ;~)
Re: other thread – meant to say that I am so sorry about the loss of homes in your community. Fire is so devastating and final.
Take care. Will be thinking of you.
Breathing is not recommended in Yosemite Valley this weekend. It’s one of the most beautiful places on earth and currently one of the smokiest. Ditto for some of our other great parks.
http://www.nature.nps.gov/air/…..visory.cfm
You can see it on a cam here, but you’ll feel like coughing:
http://www.yosemite.org/vryos/
I didn’t see any wind farms, either in Guangzhou, Xi’an (towards the west where the wind should blow pretty hard), or anywhere near Beijing. When we were flying, it was either rainy or polluted, and I couldn’t see the countryside. If there are wind farms, I missed them.
Update from airnow for June 29-June 30:
http://spaceweather.com/submis…..687532.jpg
Yesterday I heard from my friend Jim who lives about 1000 feet above Truckee California. He tells me that even there (about 7800 foot level) the air was thick with smoke and people are being told to stay indoors and not go jogging.
I moved recently from Bangkok to Chiang Mai (Thailand) and my reason for moving was the air problems in Bangkok. Any of you who have come through here know how bad it is. Chiang Mai was a pleasant change air-wise, but now that too is changing. The countries that make up South East Asia are growing exponentially and so is the particulate matter. It is a common sight to see almost everyone with hospital masks on while riding in Tuk-Tuks and scooters. It is also a common sight here to see people walking about with those little inhalers in their nostrils while they are conducting business.
The rest of the world is somewhat angry that it took so long for the bush Administration to even admit that there was such a thing as Global Warming.
So now with the talk of more drilling (and not curing our addiction) and not keeping up with the smaller nations like Korea and Japan and a few others who have taken the lead in making cars that run on Compressed Air, Water (fuel cell) and other non-Oil-Based fuels, the world wonders why the USA has let this happen. My guess … Oil men sitting in the two highest offices of the US and lining the pockets of their greedy Corporate buds.
3:32 pm in California, 40 miles north of SF. We’ve got sunshine and about 80% clear skies. Had the same yesterday afternoon for a few hours. Other than that, it’s been grey/brown and unpleasant breathing.
I just saw on CNN that there are over 1400 fires going in California.
I don’t know if it’s the end of the world, but I think it’s going to look something like this.