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	<title>Comments on: Why Is Dave Obey (D-WI) Putting Our Children At Risk?</title>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/why-is-dave-obey-d-wi-putting-our-children-at-risk/#comment-1514710</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;premiere, i know, i hate it when people correct their own spelling, but i really hate it when my fingers hit the wrong keys.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>premiere, i know, i hate it when people correct their own spelling, but i really hate it when my fingers hit the wrong keys.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/why-is-dave-obey-d-wi-putting-our-children-at-risk/#comment-1514705</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ok, if not a book, at least a series of essays on it……i have many times forwarded your comments to people who needed them before, one of them teaches art at a catholic high school. my best friend….amazing woman and artist………imagine that, art, really taught by an artist, in a catholic high school……..she manages to keep it open. somehow. she’s catholic and is not pleased with the new pope. she’s leaving the school this year due to issues……..they no longer care about the education of the students, just the money….she’s convinced they’re trying to close the school by making it fail. won’t be a part of it, and it’s her dream job, she’s leaving along with 6 others. used to be the premeire school in the city, no more……will take a while till people realize that, she isn’t going to be there when they do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, if not a book, at least a series of essays on it……i have many times forwarded your comments to people who needed them before, one of them teaches art at a catholic high school. my best friend….amazing woman and artist………imagine that, art, really taught by an artist, in a catholic high school……..she manages to keep it open. somehow. she’s catholic and is not pleased with the new pope. she’s leaving the school this year due to issues……..they no longer care about the education of the students, just the money….she’s convinced they’re trying to close the school by making it fail. won’t be a part of it, and it’s her dream job, she’s leaving along with 6 others. used to be the premeire school in the city, no more……will take a while till people realize that, she isn’t going to be there when they do.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/why-is-dave-obey-d-wi-putting-our-children-at-risk/#comment-1514703</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;boo i wish you would write a book, i know a lot of people who could use it…….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boo i wish you would write a book, i know a lot of people who could use it…….</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Texan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/why-is-dave-obey-d-wi-putting-our-children-at-risk/#comment-1514574</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t mean to sound rude, but this response makes no sense. How is pumping hundreds of millions of dollars into abstinence education — going beyond what the GOP was doing “not so much.” Not so much compared to what? His Republican predecessor?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I’m sorry, being Catholic myself, I can tell you that not all Catholics want abstinence-only education in our public schools. If you’ve got polling to suggest otherwise, let’s see it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Either way, it’s no excuse for dumping millions of dollars into a program that hurts our kids.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t mean to sound rude, but this response makes no sense. How is pumping hundreds of millions of dollars into abstinence education — going beyond what the GOP was doing “not so much.” Not so much compared to what? His Republican predecessor?</p>
<p>And I’m sorry, being Catholic myself, I can tell you that not all Catholics want abstinence-only education in our public schools. If you’ve got polling to suggest otherwise, let’s see it. </p>
<p>Either way, it’s no excuse for dumping millions of dollars into a program that hurts our kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting to me.  Keep up the info!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to me.  Keep up the info!</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I appreciate the link. I had some rough knowledge of that period and the players. I hadn’t heard that handy term. Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the link. I had some rough knowledge of that period and the players. I hadn’t heard that handy term. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Roman Catholics in particular, as opposed to “reformed” Xtians, those who followed Luther’s reformation, are frequently taught that there is some unbroken line of popes from Peter to Benny and the jets. That’s a historical crock on many levels. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Peter wasn’t the “pope.” James the Just, Jesus’ brother (and not one of the original 12) kicked his ass out of Jerusalem, which was the center of the “Nazarene” movement. James the Just didn’t think much of &lt;em&gt;“you are Peter and upon this rock I build my Church.”&lt;/em&gt; That whole line was never uttered by Jesus. He died a good and pious Jew, never intended to start a new religion, but he did have new and different interpretations of the Jewish law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Peter followed Paul to Rome, which was no-where in terms of influence on primitive Xtianity. The only reason Paul became so important was that Rome wiped out Jerusalem and Israel in 70 and 125 ce. It was only the Hellenized versions of early Xtianity, written in Greek, that survived (until Dead Sea Scroll discoveries in 20th century). All the great counsels, Chalcedon and Nicea for example were held in the East. The Eastern Patriarchs dwarfed the bishop of Rome in influence until much later in the Church’s history. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Apologies for the OT to the many, many FDL’ers who are committed agnostics and atheists. I intend no disrespect to you by expounding on these historical issues. Just trying to give “recovering” Roman Catholics a little ammunition, if they want or need it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. </p>
<p>Roman Catholics in particular, as opposed to “reformed” Xtians, those who followed Luther’s reformation, are frequently taught that there is some unbroken line of popes from Peter to Benny and the jets. That’s a historical crock on many levels. </p>
<p>Peter wasn’t the “pope.” James the Just, Jesus’ brother (and not one of the original 12) kicked his ass out of Jerusalem, which was the center of the “Nazarene” movement. James the Just didn’t think much of <em>“you are Peter and upon this rock I build my Church.”</em> That whole line was never uttered by Jesus. He died a good and pious Jew, never intended to start a new religion, but he did have new and different interpretations of the Jewish law.</p>
<p>Peter followed Paul to Rome, which was no-where in terms of influence on primitive Xtianity. The only reason Paul became so important was that Rome wiped out Jerusalem and Israel in 70 and 125 ce. It was only the Hellenized versions of early Xtianity, written in Greek, that survived (until Dead Sea Scroll discoveries in 20th century). All the great counsels, Chalcedon and Nicea for example were held in the East. The Eastern Patriarchs dwarfed the bishop of Rome in influence until much later in the Church’s history. </p>
<p>Apologies for the OT to the many, many FDL’ers who are committed agnostics and atheists. I intend no disrespect to you by expounding on these historical issues. Just trying to give “recovering” Roman Catholics a little ammunition, if they want or need it.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/why-is-dave-obey-d-wi-putting-our-children-at-risk/#comment-1514467</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thank you. meet the new boss, same as the old boss.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you. meet the new boss, same as the old boss.</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/why-is-dave-obey-d-wi-putting-our-children-at-risk/#comment-1514465</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/let-them-go-to-berlin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New post&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Peterr ist ein Berliner&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/25/let-them-go-to-berlin/" rel="nofollow">New post</a></p>
<p>Peterr ist ein Berliner</p>
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		<title>By: jimjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here in Hastert’s former district, it’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://http//www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/1009239,2_1_AU17_TEENWEB_S1.article&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;front page news &lt;/a&gt;when 5 people in a town of 25000 object to the library having a link to the Planned Parenthood website about teen sexuality.  Abstinence from information too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Hastert’s former district, it’s <a href="http://http//www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/1009239,2_1_AU17_TEENWEB_S1.article" rel="nofollow">front page news </a>when 5 people in a town of 25000 object to the library having a link to the Planned Parenthood website about teen sexuality.  Abstinence from information too.</p>
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